There are no (AFAIK) and all electric waterways here in Florida, but I know other States do. I've had a number of gas powered boats, but my option in my advancing years to minimize my problems in life was to get a full size pickup truck, downsize my boat, go all electric and hand launch from the truck bed. The benefits (for me) outweigh the option of needing a larger boat and trailer.
I can get places I only dream of needing a ramp filled with traffic, newbies, and dolts, I generally have zero competition on the water with other vessels (other than the odd yak and shore fisherman), there are more fish, the fish are uneducated towards lures, and it's deadly quiet... almost prehistorically so. And when I get home, I unload and I'm done. No engine flush, no gas tank filling, no engine problems.
The only real drawback is the lack of speed and maybe size. But I liken an all electric boat to owning a sailboat instead of a stinkpotter, you're not getting anywhere fast, but when you get there you're so much more relaxed. It's also like owning a small condo, you keep and store things you REALLY need, not everything you want
Get one of these, if you can afford it:
https://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/outboards/deep-blue/deep-blue-80-r/M-3201-00.html
@139Kg, it would be staying in the truck bed...:)
On 12/7/2018 at 1:39 AM, J Francho said:Get one of these, if you can afford it:
https://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/outboards/deep-blue/deep-blue-80-r/M-3201-00.html
At that weight it would tip my tinny over backwards.
On 12/7/2018 at 1:39 AM, J Francho said:Get one of these, if you can afford it:
https://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/outboards/deep-blue/deep-blue-80-r/M-3201-00.html
I would love to show up with one of those at one of the electric only lakes around here.
On 12/7/2018 at 2:10 AM, gnappi said:At that weight it would tip my tinny over backwards.
That thing weighs more than my rigged canoe with all my equipment in it.
Batteries are heavy so most all electric powered bass boats are trailered.
Check out Butch Brown's all elecrtic bass boat he uses at the Castiac lagoon. 5 hp 28V transum motor and your standard 24V bow mounted Motor Guide TM, requires 4 group 31 marine batteries a
@ 260 lbs,you need a trailer.
Tom
I have a 14 foot aluminum vhull that I run all electric. I built a deck in it and seats and storage. It’s been really awesome so far. I have 5 batteries in it tho so it’s trailered. 2 for the trolling motor. 2 for the transom motor, it’s a 12 volt but running out of juice half way across the lake is no fun. And then the other battery powers all my electronics, I have a sonar unit at the drivers seat and one on the casting deck as well as an outlet to plug in your phone or whatever you might need.
I take it out on kentucky lake all all the time and it’s just fine. It’s also great taking it to the all electric lakes around here too, those guys look at me like I’m crazy.
Ive has a couple different motors on the transom but the latest one I’ve gotten I can get to 4.5 mph on slick calm water. So I can get where I want to go it might just take me a minute to get there. But it’s much better than the snails pace of 2mph my first motor got me.
twin troller bass boat.........check out the website
On 12/7/2018 at 2:04 AM, Choporoz said:@139Kg, it would be staying in the truck bed...:)
On 12/7/2018 at 2:33 AM, JustALineWetter said:That thing weighs more than my rigged canoe with all my equipment in it.
On 12/7/2018 at 2:10 AM, gnappi said:At that weight it would tip my tinny over backwards.
A gas powered Merc 75 weighs 150 lbs. MORE, and offers less power. Your weight arguments are a little silly. Obviously, this is meant for a larger vessel. The point is that there are electrics out there that far more powerful and offer more than putting around at 2-3 mph. Also, Torqeedo has smaller motors. There's some impressive footage on YouTube of what their 4 hp equivalent motor can do.
On 12/7/2018 at 2:18 AM, Tennessee Boy said:I would love to show up with one of those at one of the electric only lakes around here.
That would be awesome. My girlfriend works at an RD lithium battery start up. The batts are getting MUCH safer, and prices will come down, eventually.
I have an all electric boat, but it is a 10 ft. Pond Prowler...
On 12/7/2018 at 3:27 AM, J Francho said:Your weight arguments are a little silly. .
The op wants to carry a boat in his pickup bed
What he's asking is if anyone else is using all electric. I was pointing out there were others. And they going a lot faster than walking speeds.
On 12/7/2018 at 4:50 AM, J Francho said:What he's asking is if anyone else is using all electric. I was pointing out there were others. And they going a lot faster than walking speeds.
That may be, but the price of even their trolling motors is more than my canoe, trailer, Minn-Kota, battery and the mods I made (comfy seat, etc) put together.
Some of us don't have near the budget for something like that.
Here you go. Roll this out of the truck to the shore and your ready to go. It should pack away at the condo just fine.
https://www.ultraskiff.com/
On 12/7/2018 at 4:59 AM, JustALineWetter said:That may be, but the price of even their trolling motors is more than my canoe, trailer, Minn-Kota, battery and the mods I made (comfy seat, etc) put together.
Some of us don't have near the budget for something like that.
Somebody does. I don't have a budget for it either, and I don't have a budget for a brand new gas powered boat, but the prices are coming down on all electric. I find the technology fascinating. Not sure what all the negativity is about.
On 12/7/2018 at 5:11 AM, Bolar said:Here you go. Roll this out of the truck to the shore and your ready to go. It should pack away at the condo just fine.
https://www.ultraskiff.com/
It's a high-tech coracle - cool.
I still don't understand those goofy things. I'll take my Hobie over it, though.
Yes, a G3 1652
There is a guy at a lake I fish that is electric only with one public launch get from the laugh to the far reaches you are looking at 3-4 miles an he has two torqueedos on a pretty large semi v style boat and he throws a wake with that thing. It is pretty crazy to see really given al the other boats out there are kayaks like mine or trolling motor deals.
We fish a lot of our pits with no gas motor, there are 25hp motors on all of the 4 or 5 boats we have stashed in the pits, but only use them if a storm blows in or any other kind of emergency. All of the boats ar 16-18 ft big john flat bottom john boats with 50lb thrust transom trolling motors. The other boat I fish out of is a 21 ft stratos with a brand new mercury 225 on the back. Its a lot of fun, but much more expensive.
Do you plan of fishing with a partner? Even a tiny boat is a pain by yourself, take this for what it’s worth;
I have an all electric boat and love it. 12’ shallow V Sears. It started as a ladder rack boat, it graduated to being modified and more “fishable”(and quiet) which I carried in the truckbed. I built the flat floor from carved foam board to fit the radius’s and topped it with corrugated plastic with carpet over it to save weight.(zero wood) It got even more modified to then getting a trailer and way more upgrades, and later- With it having 3 batteries and lots of accessories, it now stays on the trailer. But since all the motors are quick disconnect, and the batteries are pretty easy to take out, I can still hand carry it with a buddy or dolly it down trails and whatnot if I choose to. My buddy’s little jonboat is easier though.
We don’t have many electric only lakes up here, but most of the bass ponds in my immediate area have no ramps. Even with it on the trailer I’ve found ways to launch.. some requiring the use of my own 4x4 plus a buddies ????.... and some brute strength...
Here are some old pics before all the trailer mods and upgraded motors, seats..blah blah, feel free to ask about mods if you wish.
Batteries are under the seats
I started out looking for something like a Gheenoe or a fishing yak which I may still get at some point but right now the Lowe is perfect and I'm hard pressed to change.
This is my second 10' aluminum boat. My first was a 1032 topper which was way too narrow and unstable with two fishermen. The Lowe 1040 is far better.
I stuck with the 10' because the 1236 Lowe is over 30 pounds heavier (and narrower) than the Lowe 1040. All of the other brand 12' boats are in general MUCH heavier still. I researched all of the available brands with weight, beam, and length as primary needs and made a spreadsheet for comparative purposes.
I've kept my 87 pound 10' Lowe weight way down to make it easy to handle. I did not install seats, I ditched the group 27 battery for 3 smaller U1 AGM batteries which I can remove at launch time and reinsert after it's in the water as with all of my other gear. This is my third season hand launching and it's actually quite easy to handle. My trailer is used only to drag it out of my yard to slide into my truck bed.
Fold up wheels that attach to the stern of a aluminum boat assist in launching with pick up truck bed boats. You still need to lift the bow when luanching and lift the stern up to load back into the truck. Small trailer is a lot easier IMO.
Tom
I've looked at wheels, but still use it as is. At 67 and not a big guy I'm not having any problems handling half of a ~90 pound boat.
" My trailer is used only to drag it out of my yard to slide into my truck bed. "
Actually, my previous statement is not entirely correct, since I store the boat on it the trailer also raises the boat above the ground so I can put the cover on it. ????
There's very little to zero use for a trailer where I fish and until you have a small boat hand launched into quiet, pristine, mostly unfished waters there's very little positive I can think of about using a trailer.
Especially on long hauls hand launch is a very positive direction... worry about flats/blowouts? Replacing said tires? No... bearing, axle failures? Nope. Trailer lights? No siree.. trailer electrical problems? All definitely no. Been there done that all too many times and at my age those are things that I won't tolerate any more.
I've had boats that would comfortably be able to fish far enough offshore that you need a passport to gas up, nevermore. In all my years of fishing I've never had more fun than I do now.
On 12/7/2018 at 4:50 AM, J Francho said:What he's asking is if anyone else is using all electric. I was pointing out there were others. And they going a lot faster than walking speeds.
Your point about speed is useless if you can't get a boat with a motor into a body of water inaccesible to a boat with a motor and trailer, no?
See me on a remote lake with my boat in the water, and another on a trailer and show me how a boat with a 200hp motor on a trailer not moving at all is better than a 4mph electric boat :-)
Let me know where you get your weightless deep cycle marine batteries powerful enough to move your all electric boat around prestine remote lakes.
From everything that has been posted a kayak seems to be the answer.
Tom
On 12/9/2018 at 1:27 AM, WRB said:From everything that has been posted a kayak seems to be the answer.
Or a canoe
(I look at kayaks and wonder how DO those things not tip over. I know there's a science, but I can't get my head around it...they don't seem deep enough to be stable.)
My backwater/river boat is a Bass Hunter EX equipped with only a motor guide 32lb thrust electric trolling motor and 2 extra long wooden canoe paddles. I bought the whole deal at a garage sale with trolling motor for $250. I can pull up the motor and paddle while sitting down or just float the river without worrying about the hull. It's a fun deal for skinny backwater and shallow water fishing , but it's not going to win any races : )
On 12/9/2018 at 1:27 AM, WRB said:Let me know where you get your weightless deep cycle marine batteries powerful enough to move your all electric boat around prestine remote lakes.
From everything that has been posted a kayak seems to be the answer.
Tom
What makes you say that? A Jon can go several miles on a single charge, and you can go alone or with a partner, sit or stand, plenty of storage space as well and room for a spare battery just Incase. Affordable and rugged as well.
Kayaks are the fasted growing bass boat sector in the country, most kayaker's owned Jon boats before.
I am not a kayak owner and owned 2 bass boats at the same time most of my life; a fiberglass bass boat and a aluminum boat converted to bass fish with small OB, trolling motor, sonar units and pedistal seats to fish those out of the way small lakes or limited HP and electric lakes.
I would own a kayak if I could get in and out of it, but I no longer can do that or launch my aluminum small boat by my self anymore. Still have a bass boat that is easy to luanch and retrieve if a good ramp with a dock is available.
Each to his own, if you all are physically able to lift heavy batteries and heavy boats in and out if the water, put them into a pick up bed, go for it.
Tom
On 12/9/2018 at 1:27 AM, WRB said:Let me know where you get your weightless deep cycle marine batteries powerful enough to move your all electric boat around prestine remote lakes.
From everything that has been posted a kayak seems to be the answer.
Tom
Weightless? Are you being funny or delusional?
As I said,
" I ditched the group 27 battery for 3 smaller U1 AGM batteries which I can remove at launch time and reinsert after it's in the water as with all of my other gear."
They move my boat through pristine lakes... for over three hours each at up to 4mph with 4 rods, a tackle box, 2 fishermen, a cooler filled with ice, full instrumentation with DF, bilge pump, nav lights, horn, rod holders and more.
My boat is so much superior to a yak in every measureable way any comparison is simply laughable. My minor inconvenience is loading it after dropping it in the water.
You want to argue with that? I don't know why you are, but keep on ranting.
On 12/7/2018 at 1:39 AM, J Francho said:Get one of these, if you can afford it:
https://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/outboards/deep-blue/deep-blue-80-r/M-3201-00.html
That's pretty slick, if you're on a place where you can keep it charged (I'm guessing a semi-remote Canadian Shield lake wouldn't cut it)
Seems expensive, but: No gas. Ever. way fewer moving parts, so maintenance will be low.
Double the output, and it'll have a lotta people looking. I'll be one of 'em.
Edited to add: Cut the price in half. Get a 150 HP equivalent motor for $12K and we're in the ballpark. I run a 140 HP 4 st. on less than $250/year in gas, so 10 years of that is $2500, 20 is $5000.
On 12/9/2018 at 12:55 PM, Further North said:That's pretty slick, if you're on a place where you can keep it charged (I'm guessing a semi-remote Canadian Shield lake wouldn't cut it)
Seems expensive, but: No gas. Ever. way fewer moving parts, so maintenance will be low.
Double the output, and it'll have a lotta people looking. I'll be one of 'em.
Looks like Elon Musk is missing the boat on this high performance all electric.
Tom
On 12/9/2018 at 1:20 PM, WRB said:Looks like Elon Musk is missing the boat on this high performance all electric.
Tom
Musk's stuff is impractical for anyone with a normal income who lives away from big cities.
...that he appears to running the company into the ground isn't helping.
The tech is cool, but not ready for prime time. Not even close. All kinds of issues (infrastructure, charging rates/times, charging station availability...)
I've thought for a long time that boats, bass fishing boats in particular, would be a perfect test bed for a lot of the technology.
We'll see if anyone picks up on that.
Edited by Further NorthOn 12/9/2018 at 1:20 PM, WRB said:Looks like Elon Musk is missing the boat on this high performance all electric.
Tom
By the way: Great pun, whether intended or not. ????
On 12/9/2018 at 1:31 AM, JustALineWetter said:Or a canoe
(I look at kayaks and wonder how DO those things not tip over. I know there's a science, but I can't get my head around it...they don't seem deep enough to be stable.)
You'll flip a canoe MUCH easier than you'll flip a kayak designed for standing and fishing. I on fact know many that made the switch due to flipping their canoe. Note the double sponson running the length of the hull on my Hobie Compass. You'd fall out before you turtle it. In testing it took some really intentional stupidity to get it to roll.
On 12/9/2018 at 1:26 PM, Further North said:I've thought for a long time that boats, bass fishing boats in particular, would be a perfect test bed for a lot of the technology.
They're already using light weight, lithium batteries. It's only a matter of time. Torqeedo has a 150 equivilent in the works. I'd be interested to know run times, charge times, and weight. I'm sure it will be way too expensive to be really practical.
On 12/10/2018 at 9:52 PM, J Francho said:You'll flip a canoe MUCH easier than you'll flip a kayak designed for standing and fishing. I on fact know many that made the switch due to flipping their canoe. Note the double sponson running the length of the hull on my Hobie Compass. You'd fall out before you turtle it. In testing it took some really intentional stupidity to get it to roll.
It's one of those 'gut things' to me. I 'know' they're more stable, but seeing the shallowness of them still triggers something in me.
One thing I'm adding to my canoe this winter while the water is hard is outrigger stabilizers. Then I couldn't flip it if I tried.
I was really hoping this was going to be an announcement for a new Tesla Outboard.
On 12/11/2018 at 4:42 AM, Chance_Taker4 said:I was really hoping this was going to be an announcement for a new Tesla Outboard.
Funny thing, that market woulda made a lot more sense for them (him) to get into.
On 12/7/2018 at 3:27 AM, J Francho said:A gas powered Merc 75 weighs 150 lbs. MORE, and offers less power. Your weight arguments are a little silly.
Those torqueedos are pretty cool. But I still don’t see the real value. I looked into a 3hp equivalent awhile back but it’s not worth it.
the 3hp and the 80hp only have alittle over 1/2 hr runtime at full throttle, and the 80hp you speak of says the lithium battery weighs 564lbs. Only to run wide open for 35 minutes. Where are you considering it’s better than the merc 75?
On 12/11/2018 at 12:39 PM, Arcs&sparks said:Where are you considering it’s better than the merc 75?
I didn't. My point was made above, though the weight of the batteries is equivalent to 91 gallons of gas, so point taken.
Side note on run times... my Merc Racing ProMax will go through around 30 gallons of gas in one hour at WOT. The tank is 25 gallons.
I have a "Bass Baby" with built in wheels . Its like those Pelican boats . I load and unload it by myself then wheel it down to the water . There are several lakes around that are elec only . The one I fish the most they loan out 14 foot jon boats and I have a lot of success there . I t takes about 15 minutes to hook up trolling motor , depth finder and strap in a seat . I take a seat from the Bass baby and tie it down with those racket straps .
I just saw these in Fishing University and I like the concept with a few small changes. I really like the fishing chair as I don't get around as I used to in my younger years. What do others think about this new fishing rig from Blue Sky Boatworks? It is called the 360 Angler see pic below. It has both foot pedal and electric drive options.
On 1/15/2019 at 6:36 AM, PaparoclCal said:I just saw these in Fishing University and I like the concept with a few small changes. I really like the fishing chair as I don't get around as I used to in my younger years. What do others think about this new fishing rig from Blue Sky Boatworks? It is called the 360 Angler see pic below. It has both foot pedal and electric drive options.
Welcome aboard!
Personally, I'd opt for an electric motor over pedal...
Saw Blue Sky's stuff via videos during Icast last year. Some really
neat stuff, to be true.
Greetings Yak Fishin', I used to have a Cobra Fish-N-Dive kayak back when my wife and I had our canoe & kayak resort in north Arkansas. I loved that yak but I sold it to a friend as I have sever arthritis now in my lower back. It just won't take what it used to as I get older. I used to talk with my wife about what I would build if I had the money and its pretty close to what Blue Sky came out with the exception I had the idea of putting one of the high end Minn Kota trolling motors on the front linked to an I-pilot Link Hummingbird with the GPS and Mega Imaging as I will be fishing lake Castaic's clear water and the Castaic Lagoon. Such a set-up would allow me hands free operation and to view the deep structure where the Big Bass and Stripers hide. I could run the chart plotting linked to the I-pilot and anchor function to hold me over deep structure; my Dream Rig! Since I have been in California it is the first time I have not owned my own boat and the doctors have taken almost all of our lifesavings just to stay alive. I really miss fishing as once upon a time I fished saltwater in the Gulf of Mexico several days a week and the South Fork of the Spring River for Smallmouth Bass after I retired and had the mom&pop resort on the river. I'm drying out and shriveling away it has been so long since I wetted a line.????
I hope it's not too late to add to this topic.
This is what I've been looking at. An inflatable boat.
https://scoutinflatables.com/products/scout-boats
And an electric outboard motor, albeit of modest size.
https://www.torqeedo.com/us/en-us/products/outboards/travel/travel-1103-c/M-1151-00.html
Not cheap, but doable. What's stopping me? I live in Florida and I'm afraid an alligator will bite my boat. Okay, not really ... much, but I am concerned about durability. I like that I wouldn't have a trailer and wouldn't necessarily need a full sized pickup.
Thoughts?