Here is a great place for you to show off a cool screenshot or ask a question about one.
When posting a screenshot please include a description of what is in the picture and also let us know what fish finder you were using.
I can start with a little humor. Here's a screenshot from my HB 798 SI/DI of a view that I see quite often on my little lakes.
Welcome to my world.................................................
How do you even choose which piece of structure to hit first?
Wow Goose. I think we fish the same lake. Looks too familiar.
It's funny...but it's sad too. All my lakes are man-made, and with one exception they were all logged and most stumps pulled before they were filled so I see this view quite a bit. I do have some lakes with some structure features - ledges/drop offs, vestigial channels, etc, but in general, even the 30-35ft deep lakes are just big, empty bowls.
Here is a spoonbill swimming under my boat.
Same day a big cat.
Wow - water with fish in it....VERY cool...
Humminbird 798ci SI Combo with HDSI transducer
Creek channel with vehicle tracks made during lake construction
Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
DI view of tree with algae on it and a school of bass nearby
Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
Using FIshID to indicate bass in tree limbs
Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
Crappie on the rocks
These are awesome. Thanks for sharing
Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
Using FishID to see a bass feeding on a school of shad
Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
Very large bass getting lunch in a creek channel:
Comparison images.
This is a brush pile before full pool:
This is the same one a few years later with Side Imaging-- Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
That looks like lake down in fredricksburg before they raised the water level!!
On 12/4/2013 at 5:44 AM, quanjig said:That looks like lake down in fredricksburg before they raised the water level!!
It sure is Hunting Run. There are several dozen places like that. There are 4 of them within 100 yards.
I went around the lake and got waypoints for a lot of the interesting places and did a video describing the waypoints.
This one was too deep to see it but shows the effort put into creating those brush piles. They did the pile and put a whole tree on top of it.
I was lucky enough to fish it a few times before the water level increase and hope to get out there again soon, might even remember where a few are located. The first month or so that place was open was truly an amazing experience!!
So, I am EXTREMELY NEW to fishin with Sonar. I have a Lowrance Elite HDI 7 with DSI. I have literally never seen anything like this on my screen. Do I have a not so good quality fish finder, or do I need to dial in my settings? I eager to get good at using it so I can submit screenshots like this - BEFORE (showing school of Bass) AFTER - (showing a big Largemouth I caught!)
Thanks for any tips!!
On 11/29/2013 at 9:45 PM, Wayne P. said:Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
DI view of tree with algae on it and a school of bass nearby
On 12/9/2013 at 11:57 AM, efoss348 said:So, I am EXTREMELY NEW to fishin with Sonar. I have a Lowrance Elite HDI 7 with DSI. I have literally never seen anything like this on my screen. Do I have a not so good quality fish finder, or do I need to dial in my settings? I eager to get good at using it so I can submit screenshots like this - BEFORE (showing school of Bass) AFTER - (showing a big Largemouth I caught!)
Thanks for any tips!!
Well you have to be where stuff is to see stuff. The Lowrance units are very good at showing stuff with Down Scan which is what yours has as well as traditional 2D sonar.
I don't even have a boat, and I'm impressed how far technoLogy has advanced for these finders. Still trying to figure out what I'm looking at with these side view scans.
This is the same brush pile as above that I posted a picture of before full pool and what it looks like with Down Imaging and traditional 2D sonar. Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
Humminbird 798ci SI Combo
This is a very thick weed bed point (on the right) a Hydrilla-like weed with Side Imaging:
This is the Down Imaging view of that point that shows the individual weed stems:
This is the same with the combo DI and 2D views:
Humminbird 798ci SI Combo
This is where a backhoe dug up a tree stump to create one of the brush piles in a previous post:
Hey Wayne (or anybody else), do you have SI image of fish that you can share with us? I see you have one above where the fish was under water column below you boat, but I was wondering if you have an example of fish on the side. I sometime see these white dots which are brighter than the rest of the image and not sure if they were fish or rock. It is also kinda difficult for me to determine size of rocks or humps when I am looking at SI.
The detail is ridiculous All I need now is a boat and a finder
On 12/11/2013 at 8:32 AM, Wayne P. said:Humminbird 798ci SI Combo
This is where a backhoe dug up a tree stump to create one of the brush piles in a previous post:
So this is basically DI and Si at the same time? So where the dark meets the yellow that would be the lake bed horizon so to speak on the left or right.
On 12/11/2013 at 10:24 AM, boostr said:On 12/11/2013 at 8:32 AM, Wayne P. said:Humminbird 798ci SI Combo
This is where a backhoe dug up a tree stump to create one of the brush piles in a previous post:
So this is basically DI and Si at the same time? So where the dark meets the yellow that would be the lake bed horizon so to speak on the left or right.
No that image is only Side Imaging. The junction of the black area and the color area is the lake bottom under the transducer.
On 12/11/2013 at 10:01 AM, Loop_Dad said:Hey Wayne (or anybody else), do you have SI image of fish that you can share with us? I see you have one above where the fish was under water column below you boat, but I was wondering if you have an example of fish on the side. I sometime see these white dots which are brighter than the rest of the image and not sure if they were fish or rock. It is also kinda difficult for me to determine size of rocks or humps when I am looking at SI.
Yes I do, I will gather some and post them tomorrow. I have posted some before at some point.
Humminbird 1198ci SI Combo
Fish off to the side with Side Imaging
Two of the same image with one marked where the bass are on a rocky point.
You just need to train you eyes to pick out the fish against the colored bottom. Also you have to set the Sensitivity level so the bottom won't be so bright that the fish blend in.
Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
Side Imaging
Two bass checking out a bedding area
Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
Side Imaging/ Down Imaging/2D
School of crappie with bass on the bottom. Two mid sized bass are together and two smaller ones nearby.
Humminbird 1198c SI Combo
Side Imaging
Large school of shad below and off to the side
I can look at this stuff for hours in amazement. As long as Wayne is here to interpret what the hell we're seeing. Technology is freakin awesome.
On 12/12/2013 at 1:17 AM, MarkH024 said:I can look at this stuff for hours in amazement. As long as Wayne is here to interpret what the hell we're seeing. Technology is freakin awesome.
Only 95% of the time all you see is emptiness. LOL I don't take many screenshots, I'm not running a unit on the bow yet. I can get mesmerized when I'm searching for fish, trying to figure out what I'm looking at. Did you pull the trigger yet?
Wayne, In the pic of the bluegill beds, about 1/2-2/3 way down the SI image is a little distorted. Is that from turning the TM?
On 12/12/2013 at 1:54 AM, slonezp said:Only 95% of the time all you see is emptiness. LOL I don't take many screenshots, I'm not running a unit on the bow yet. I can get mesmerized when I'm searching for fish, trying to figure out what I'm looking at. Did you pull the trigger yet?
No. Keeping my fingers crossed that I can make it work for Spring.
On 12/12/2013 at 1:57 AM, slonezp said:Wayne, In the pic of the bluegill beds, about 1/2-2/3 way down the SI image is a little distorted. Is that from turning the TM?
That is correct. Only the rocky point image is with the console unit and transom mounted SI transducer, the rest are TM images. Good catch !!!!
You can tell the transducer placement difference since on the trolling motor there is no disturbed water echos near the centerline like you get from water coming off the hull bottom. Note the faint line on the right side of the rocky point image.
Yep, I see it.
Thanks, Wayne. These are awesome!
I remember seeing image like your first fish SI image above (post #33). They are sort of like while line, sometimes very short.Mine were bit more difficult to see as the bottom looked brighter. As you suggested, I'll play with SI sensitivity the next time dim the background out.
When you spy fish with SI, do you set a way point and try to get back there using your GPS? I tried several times but I was never sure if I went back to where I intended to go back because I caught no fish doing that. And delay of GPS update made me nuts.
Another question regarding how to figure where the fish you see in SI. Using your post #33 image and the fish closest to left upper corner of the screen, the boat appears to be on about 20 ft of water at that time. Your SI range is set up 75ft. And your red circle is a little bit to the left of the half way point between left edge of the screen and where vertical water column ends. So I would figure that point is about 75Ft x 0.6 = about 45ft left of your boat. Does that sound about right?
And how do you figure how far back that circle is to your current position? (I have SI scrolling speed set to about the same speed as boat.)
On 12/12/2013 at 8:44 AM, Loop_Dad said:Thanks, Wayne. These are awesome!
I remember seeing image like your first fish SI image above (post #33). They are sort of like while line, sometimes very short.Mine were bit more difficult to see as the bottom looked brighter. As you suggested, I'll play with SI sensitivity the next time dim the background out.
When you spy fish with SI, do you set a way point and try to get back there using your GPS? I tried several times but I was never sure if I went back to where I intended to go back because I caught no fish doing that. And delay of GPS update made me nuts.
Another question regarding how to figure where the fish you see in SI. Using your post #33 image and the fish closest to left upper corner of the screen, the boat appears to be on about 20 ft of water at that time. Your SI range is set up 75ft. And your red circle is a little bit to the left of the half way point between left edge of the screen and where vertical water column ends. So I would figure that point is about 75Ft x 0.6 = about 45ft left of your boat. Does that sound about right?
And how do you figure how far back that circle is to your current position? (I have SI scrolling speed set to about the same speed as boat.)
No, I rarely create a waypoint when I see fish. When I see a fish displayed, I immediately look around to get a visual bearing of where I am and then look for them again with SI to fish for them where they are in real time. Some like to throw out a marker bouy, I don't do that unless it is really windy and I am a long way from a close visual reference. What is displayed on the screen is history and fish move. The first picture was on a point so it was very easy to have a sight reference.
IF you must do the waypoint deal, use the Casting Ring setting and set that to about 30', then position your boat icon on the circle and cast to the center of the circle.
As far as distance, the unit can only read echos from subjects or the bottom. What you see is slant distance displayed not horizontal distance. If you want, you can turn on the SI Range lines to give you a visual reference of the slant distance. To me it just clutters up the display.
For your last question, I answered that in the first paragraph.
You are using the correct scroll speed setting---good job.
You can also use that setting to stretch the images so they appear larger by using a faster scroll speed setting.
That will "open up" cover, and stretch fish sizes so you can pick out fish within that cover. It is really beneficial for dock fishing.
Are photos okay? I dont know how to do a screen shot or if my unit even can (I doubt it can)
Lowrance Elite-7 HDI and more gizzard shad than you can shake a stick at
On 12/12/2013 at 11:50 AM, vikingbear8 said:Are photos okay? I dont know how to do a screen shot or if my unit even can (I doubt it can)
Lowrance Elite-7 HDI and more gizzard shad than you can shake a stick at
Refer to page 44 of your manual for instructions for screen shots.
Awesome thanks a lot!
I'm starting to learn how to use my new 898 & 998 but any advise is still welcome.
Chart speed 5
Sensitivity 10?
I checked some spawing areas to see how the 360 would do as compared to Side Imaging.
Side Imaging view from a couple of years ago.
360 view a couple of days ago:
With the 360, I don't have to pass over the area to scan it, I can just hold the boat in place and watch as the 360 does the scanning.
On 3/12/2014 at 9:23 PM, Hi Salenity said:I'm starting to learn how to use my new 898 & 998 but any advise is still welcome.
Chart speed 5
Sensitivity 10?
Do you know how to turn off the left side readout boxs in the Side Imaging view? That will make the image larger with the same settings.
Your Sensitivity is one or two numbers too high for the hard returns. Lots of fish around that bridge.
On 12/12/2013 at 1:17 AM, MarkH024 said:I can look at this stuff for hours in amazement. As long as Wayne is here to interpret what the hell we're seeing. Technology is freakin awesome.
Wayne is seriously a genius with fish finder information if you ever have a problem or question ask him!!! hes seriously spent a lot of time helping and explaining things to me! He is the man!!!!!! And very very very helpful!!
I had the wife and kids in the boat today or I would have tried to get clearer pics but I think 5 passes over one spot was pushing it
I mounted the Jackplate after the transducer and I know it's in the way but other than that...... Opinions?
On 4/6/2014 at 6:47 AM, Hi Salenity said:I had the wife and kids in the boat today or I would have tried to get clearer pics but I think 5 passes over one spot was pushing it
Catch any of those fish?
I was just taking everyone for a ride, never got a rod out.
On 12/12/2013 at 11:50 AM, vikingbear8 said:Are photos okay? I dont know how to do a screen shot or if my unit even can (I doubt it can)
Lowrance Elite-7 HDI and more gizzard shad than you can shake a stick at
good place for a jumbo swimbait
Strange "thing" I took a screen shot of Saturday. I had the water column turned off.
Navigational buoy?
Concrete boots.
On 4/15/2014 at 2:03 AM, Hi Salenity said:Concrete boots.
Wouldn't cast a shadow like that.
I think he meant there is someone in those concrete boots!
On 4/15/2014 at 8:47 AM, gallowaypt said:I think he meant there is someone in those concrete boots!
I know what he meant. Look at my signature A body lying flat on the bottom wouldn't give off a shadow like that. It appears to me to be a cone shaped buoy
I was meaning a "floater" Weighted down by the feet, but the lack of a head in the shadow has me confused.
If we are correct and this is the shape of a body, with the shadow showing no head I'm assuming it's laying down?
I'm just trying to interpret the 360, I've never played with one and didn't know you could turn off the water view.
If I am interpreting it correctly, the object is between 12'-14' long. The rings are set at 12' The objects point(or the dead guys feet) is approximately 6' from the location of the transducer. It spreads out and appears to end about 3/4 the distance of the second ring. The shadow is cast beyond that.
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There are several of these triangle structures I have found so far. The one I posted is the only one that looks like that,.
This is a Side Imaging and a Down Imaging view of their shape.
Cribs or traps is my guess
First pic I say someone stole Touchdown Jesus from Notre Dame. Lol
Fished a South Central Kansas Sand Pit yesterday. So you can guess how it was LOADED with a plethora of underwater features.
Super Clear Water.
Had the SI Sensitivity up to 12.
Si Enhance at Default
Chart Speed at 2
Stock version 6.25
probably had the sensitivity up a bit high. Some strong returns on the bank side.
Didn't catch any on the baitfish. Ended up hooking into 8 bass all on a Jerkbait. My middle finger with one point, past the barb... OUCH, and my Lab Puppy stepped on one and got a toe.
El Dorado Lake. Updated to 6.740 to see if there was any benefit in imaging.
Not the clearest water in the world. 18" - 20" visability.
Still trying to fine tune.
On 5/4/2014 at 2:17 AM, Mr_Scrogg said:
El Dorado Lake. Updated to 6.740 to see if there was any benefit in imaging.
Not the clearest water in the world. 18" - 20" visability.
Still trying to fine tune.
Most of the blurry line on each side of the centerline is due to the unit recording echos from the aerated water coming off the bottom of the hull.
In your first picture, the "cloud" on the left is due to prop areation of the water and is shown as the distance from the transducer, not the depth.
Thanks Wayne. Im gonna record a nice chunk and play around with settings and such.
On 5/6/2014 at 2:29 AM, Mr_Scrogg said:Thanks Wayne. Im gonna record a nice chunk and play around with settings and such.
Make somewhat short recordings, It is very boring watching a recording longer than 15 minutes.
There are a couple of computer viewers that I use to check for content.
Download and install HumViewer and DeepViewFV .
I think wyne found jimmy hoffa
Where is all the guys with Lowrance. You would think I was on a Hummingbird board..
On 5/7/2014 at 12:33 AM, AbuCroixGuy said:Where is all the guys with Lowrance. You would think I was on a Hummingbird board..
You got one post up shots!
How about "sight fishing" for bedding bass in muddy water with about 2" visibility?
That is what I was doing yesterday.
Was the bite on??
On 5/11/2014 at 5:07 AM, Mr_Scrogg said:Was the bite on??
Sort of, caught 52 bass.
Average day for you, Wayne!
A couple of weeks earlier I was doing the same, caught the same number but it took me another hour to get that number. That was more pre-spawn conditions.
Got all the cool toys Wayne!!! Im still working on my SI tuning.
Hey Wayne, what boat speed and screen speed are you using for that?
On 5/11/2014 at 11:58 AM, Hi Salenity said:Hey Wayne, what boat speed and screen speed are you using for that?
Zero boat speed and Fine/Fast rotation speed.
On 5/11/2014 at 5:39 AM, Wayne P. said:A couple of weeks earlier I was doing the same, caught the same number but it took me another hour to get that number. That was more pre-spawn conditions.
You don't know how much you have helped me by putting these screen shots on here. it has really helped me pick fish out from the bottom i guess it really is just about training your eyes.
Still messing with Contrast, Enhance, and Sensitivity...
Some beds I'm assuming on the right hand side.
School of fish. Probably Crappie, but not sure since there isn't any cover near by. This lake does home Saugeye too.
On 4/6/2014 at 6:47 AM, Hi Salenity said:I had the wife and kids in the boat today or I would have tried to get clearer pics but I think 5 passes over one spot was pushing it
Ok, I need a little advise? I now have a 1199 on the bow and am trying to get it dialed in and am having no luck? I'm trying to get images of the same bridge as above that I got with my 998 on the console.
I'm trying to get the speed up so I have the trolling motor maxed on 10 (this may be my problem? Vibration?)
Anyhow I tried adjusting color/sensitivity/contrast... And this is what I've got.
On 5/21/2014 at 9:46 AM, Hi Salenity said:Ok, I need a little advise? I now have a 1199 on the bow and am trying to get it dialed in and am having no luck? I'm trying to get images of the same bridge as above that I got with my 998 on the console.
I'm trying to get the speed up so I have the trolling motor maxed on 10 (this may be my problem? Vibration?)
Anyhow I tried adjusting color/sensitivity/contrast... And this is what I've got.
The screen scroll speed should be set to the GPS speed, if you change speeds--change the scroll speed.
WIth those screen shots, the scroll speed should have been 3
Use the Sensitivity setting as a screen brightness contol. Ignore the number and adjust it to get the best images--change as often as conditions change--depth, bottom hardness, etc.
Your first picture has a dark right side because it is softer than the bridge and is sloping away from the transducer.
When you see stuff like that displayed, push the 4-way button to stop the screen from scrolling, then you can make adjustments to make that view the best you can.
On 5/24/2014 at 8:41 PM, Mr_Scrogg said:
interesting
On 5/24/2014 at 8:41 PM, Mr_Scrogg said:
What is it?
Rock piles
are these fish on the side imaging if so are they bass? and is that the thermocline at the 15 feet on the sonar read out. new to side imaging can really learn a lot
It looked like it was where I was yesterday too:On 7/7/2014 at 5:07 AM, ZhouNi said:are these fish on the side imaging if so are they bass? and is that the thermocline at the 15 feet on the sonar read out. new to side imaging can really learn a lot
Carp-a-palooza. What a disappointment....
Some of these pictures are amazing. I never really bothered with a fish finder here in Delaware because our lakes are all super shallow (10 ft or less at the deepest, usually about 4 ft average depth) so I figured they probably aren't worth the investment.
On 7/23/2014 at 10:23 PM, Coherence said:Some of these pictures are amazing. I never really bothered with a fish finder here in Delaware because our lakes are all super shallow (10 ft or less at the deepest, usually about 4 ft average depth) so I figured they probably aren't worth the investment.
How about seeing what is away from under the boat in less than 2' of water?
This image is showing 100' of coverage with a creek channel on the right side I was following looking for bass that may have moved into cooler water after a summer storm. Yep they were and I caught some of them.
Great thread and great pics. Please keep them coming!
This image displayed two bottom. I think it's a road but not sure. Under the first bottom it appears to be fish.
This picture is filled with what I believe to be clutter. Although, it could be bait fish. Any comments/remarks?
Another Picture with clutter
I have a Lowrance Elite 5-HDI. These were pictures that I snapped last night. Can anyone help me decipher these pics?
On 8/15/2014 at 6:22 AM, ConcreteJungle said:Fish Finder 1.jpg
This image displayed two bottom. I think it's a road but not sure. Under the first bottom it appears to be fish.
Fish finder 2.jpg
This picture is filled with what I believe to be clutter. Although, it could be bait fish. Any comments/remarks?
Finder Finder 3.jpg
Another Picture with clutter
I have a Lowrance Elite 5-HDI. These were pictures that I snapped last night. Can anyone help me decipher these pics?
All that "clutter" is probably plankton. It is typically on the bottom during daylight hours and rises as it gets dark, then decends in the morning. It looks somewhat like the thermocline when present.
Reduce the Sensitivity setting to lessen its display.
The downscan does not have a sensitivity adjustment. It only have a contrast adjustment. It could be placnton but while I was fishing there was several groups of shad schools going out to the main lake. Thanks for the insight. Plankton makes a lot of sense.
What about the double bottom. Whats your take on that?
On 8/16/2014 at 1:00 AM, ConcreteJungle said:The downscan does not have a sensitivity adjustment. It only have a contrast adjustment. It could be placnton but while I was fishing there was several groups of shad schools going out to the main lake. Thanks for the insight. Plankton makes a lot of sense.
What about the double bottom. Whats your take on that?
Nothing unusual about showing mulitple bottom echos. when the unit changes depth ranges automatically.
It looks like you have your depth range on manual or it just changed the depth range.
On 8/16/2014 at 8:43 AM, Wayne P. said:Nothing unusual about showing mulitple bottom echos. when the unit changes depth ranges automatically.
It looks like you have your depth range on manual or it just changed the depth range.
Hey Wayne,
Is it possible that a ledge show a double echo?
On 8/17/2014 at 9:25 PM, ConcreteJungle said:Hey Wayne,
Is it possible that a ledge show a double echo?
No, a LCR 2D unit cannot record two different depths at the same time.
What you have is a multiple of the same depth.
Any depth can produce mulitple echos if your sensitivity is set high enough.
Down Imaging from a Side Imaging unit with trolling motor mounted Side Imaging transducer.
Wayne, what is your reasoning behind switching color palettes? Do you switch colors based on sunlight or lack there of, or based on what you are trying to decipher in the imaging, water depth/clarity, or is there another reason?
On 9/7/2014 at 9:48 AM, slonezp said:Wayne, what is your reasoning behind switching color palettes? Do you switch colors based on sunlight or lack there of, or based on what you are trying to decipher in the imaging, water depth/clarity, or is there another reason?
Ambient light
For me, the brown shows the best detail, but I cannot see it well in bright sunlight.
On 5/17/2014 at 10:43 PM, Mr_Scrogg said:Still messing with Contrast, Enhance, and Sensitivity...
Some beds I'm assuming on the right hand side.
School of fish. Probably Crappie, but not sure since there isn't any cover near by. This lake does home Saugeye too.
I get that same streak on the left of the centerline sometimes. Most of the time its not there but it comes and goes. Is this interference or something with the water like aeration? My pics look just like these. can't seem to get them as clear as everyone else.
On 9/14/2014 at 8:43 AM, DelcoSol said:I get that same streak on the left of the centerline sometimes. Most of the time its not there but it comes and goes. Is this interference or something with the water like aeration? My pics look just like these. can't seem to get them as clear as everyone else.
For the bottom image, that is the recorded echos from the water coming off the hull due to the center of the hull displacing more water than the right of the center of the hull.
The top image was due to going a little faster to create the turbulence from more of the hull, so there is a little of the same on the right side.
It shows that the transducer is to the right of the hull centerline.
It is simple cavitation.
On 9/14/2014 at 9:43 AM, Wayne P. said:For the bottom image, that is the recorded echos from the water coming off the hull due to the center of the hull displacing more water than the right of the center of the hull.
The top image was due to going a little faster to create the turbulence from more of the hull, so there is a little of the same on the right side.
It shows that the transducer is to the right of the hull centerline.
It is simple cavitation.
Follow up on that subject. If the transducer was on the trolling motor, there would be no aerated water passing over the transducer to reflect the sonar pulses like this. 798ci SI Combo
Wyse Ferry Bridge, in about 150 feet under Lake Murray
Truly amazing! Cannot wait to upgrade but lol wont be for a while. just got elite 4hdi and having trouble with the dsi being crisp and clear...
This is a mixture of bass, crappie, and shad using the 360 this past Friday. All that activity kept the shad scattered since they were "what's for lunch".
Anyone have some Lowrance HDS 7Gen2 interpretations?
On 10/1/2014 at 9:27 AM, scfox11 said:Wyse Ferry Bridge, in about 150 feet under Lake Murray
Super cool.
On 10/28/2014 at 7:42 AM, Wayne P. said:This is a mixture of bass, crappie, and shad using the 360 this past Friday. All that activity kept the shad scattered since they were "what's for lunch".
Nice!!
Keep them coming man.
Staying on a piece of cover without creating a waypoint is easy since you can see where it is as you move around due to wind or current.
On 11/6/2014 at 8:48 AM, Wayne P. said:Staying on a piece of cover without creating a waypoint is easy since you can see where it is as you move around due to wind or current.
The 10' rings are a great reference for casting distance. Very cool.
This thread, especially with Wayne's images and explanations, has been fascinating! Thanks very much to everyone who contributed!
I've been thinking about purchasing some electronics. Now I'm PLANNING on purchasing some new electronics. :-) (Just got to figure out what to sell so I can afford something good!)
Tight lines,
Bob
Wow these are very cool, I am learning a lot keep them coming
Agreed
I went fishing yesterday and was scanning with Side Imaging looking for bass and their food.
When I found them, I switched to the 360 to keep up with them as they moved around so I could cast where they are in real time. I had the combo 2D/360 view displayed some of the time so I could see how large the bass were if they passed under the transducer using FishID. Most of the time I just used the full screen 360.
In this case, a bass had split the school of shad and I could clearly see where it was. I made a cast using a Krazy Blade and caught it.
This is what I saw:
The above interpreted:
The red circles are the split school of shad and the yellow circle is the bass that was after them.
This was the result:
I had success 13 times and landed 11 of them. Of course the two largest ones pulled off after a few seconds.
All the ones landed were hooked in the lip so they are not taking it very aggresivley.
I've got to get a 360. It would be great for chasing Whites & Wiper in the winter.
Do they make a mount for the Terrova yet?
On 12/17/2014 at 7:21 AM, Hi Salenity said:I've got to get a 360. It would be great for chasing Whites & Wiper in the winter.
Do they make a mount for the Terrova yet?
The 360 mount cannot rotate. The bow unit is made to clamp to the upper shaft (that doesn't rotate) of a cable steer trolling motor.
The bow model deploys and retracks with the trolling motor since it is attached to the shaft.
The electic steer motor's shaft slides up and down within the mount and it rotates.
Those that have electric steer motors use the transom model of the 360 which is the first version produced and still is. Some will rig their own deploy system for the bow model using a cable steer motor mount which is separate from the electric steer motor/mount.
Check on the crappie web sites to see how they do it.
Great pictures wayne and viking, cant wait until I get my new unit, I will definitely share some photos
Preditor/prey relationship.
When the two are separated doing their own thing, all is pieceful:
When it gets close to meal time, they are closer together:
Then the munching starts:
GPS Waypoint Accuracy.
Having a very accurate GPS system makes finding stuff easier and less time consuming. Being dead-on is a lot better than being a few yards off.
I have my bow sonar unit's transducer on the trolling motor and GPS heading sensor antenna at the bow for the best accuracy when returning to a waypoint to check it out and fish it if the conditions are right. The heading sensor indicates the direction the bow is pointed.
This is a brushpile waypoint numbered----Hr9. There are two more nearby.
This screen shot shows the waypoint just in front of the boat on the Chart view, The bow position is the center of the little boat icon and where the track is drawn from. The green ring around the waypoint is called Casting Ring and I have it set to 30' radius. At the same time that brush pile is shown just in front of the boat in the 360 view.
As I moved around, in this screen shot, the brush pile is shown about 45 degrees off the port side of the transom about 20' away as indicated by the chart position icon and the brushpile itself in the 360 view.
On 12/12/2013 at 12:48 AM, Wayne P. said:Humminbird 1198ci SI Combo
Fish off to the side with Side Imaging
Two of the same image with one marked where the bass are on a rocky point.
You just need to train you eyes to pick out the fish against the colored bottom. Also you have to set the Sensitivity level so the bottom won't be so bright that the fish blend in.
Wayne, is there any current running there?
On 5/10/2014 at 6:30 AM, Wayne P. said:How about "sight fishing" for bedding bass in muddy water with about 2" visibility?
That is what I was doing yesterday.
OK, this is getting to be cheating lol.
Great thread. Amazing posts Wayne. Thanks for sharing them.
On 1/8/2015 at 10:16 AM, Paul Roberts said:Wayne, is there any current running there?
OK, this is getting to be cheating lol.
Great thread. Amazing posts Wayne. Thanks for sharing them.
No current in the first picture. It was on the same lake as the picture I sent you and preditor/prey post.
OK. I was wondering about the position of the bass in relation to the rocks. Also, what's going on at 15 ft there -in the 2D color shot? Plankton? Thermocline?
On 1/8/2015 at 10:52 AM, Paul Roberts said:OK. I was wondering about the position of the bass in relation to the rocks. Also, what's going on at 15 ft there -in the 2D color shot? Plankton? Thermocline?
Good catch. The thermocline was just forming at the 15' level.
What happens if you mount a trolling motor tranducer backwards and you move to the front. What kind of image do you get?
On 1/14/2015 at 3:00 AM, prjavelin said:What happens if you mount a trolling motor tranducer backwards and you move to the front. What kind of image do you get?
If it is a Side Imaging transducer you get the left side displayed on the right side and the right side displayed on the left side.
Hank Parker had a XTM 9 SI 180 T attached backwards on his trolling motor a few years ago and didn't seem to notice the difference. When I saw that, I sent him a message about it and he never responded.
I know how to install one, I have one that I don't use anymore. I wasn't unaware enough to attach it backwards.
I copied this picture of a SI and a DI trolling motor puck installed.
Here's a few from my 798ci HD SI with compact (standard) transducer. Wayne, feel free to comment/correct anything I've labeled incorrectly.
-T9
BLUEGILL SPAWNING BEDS
SUBMERGED BRIDGE WITH RIPRAP BANK LINING ROADBED INTO CHANNEL AND CRAPPIE SUSPENDED AROUND/UNDER BRIDGE
SCHOOL OF WHITE BASS HIGH IN WATER COLUMN WITH REFLECTED SHADOWS ON BOTTOM
FEEDER CREEK SPLITTING A POINT WITH A LARGE WASHED IN TREE IN THE MOUTH
On 1/14/2015 at 9:30 AM, Team9nine said:Here's a few from my 798ci HD SI with compact (standard) transducer. Wayne, feel free to comment/correct anything I've labeled incorrectly.
-T9
BLUEGILL SPAWNING BEDS
S00008.PNG
SUBMERGED BRIDGE WITH RIPRAP BANK LINING ROADBED INTO CHANNEL AND CRAPPIE SUSPENDED AROUND/UNDER BRIDGE
S00025.jpg
SCHOOL OF WHITE BASS HIGH IN WATER COLUMN WITH REFLECTED SHADOWS ON BOTTOM
S00049.jpg
FEEDER CREEK SPLITTING A POINT WITH A LARGE WASHED IN TREE IN THE MOUTH
SI5.JPG
Good job of explaining what SI is showing.
If you want to really sharpen the images, you can use the HDSI transducer instead. Sort of expensive though.
Any helix 5 si screenshots yet?
This was on a powerplant lake. The plant was down for a few days for repairs so the temps had dropped. This had the shad schooled up extremely tight. As I went over the school in the first pic the graph showed a false depth of 3'.
Sorry I just took the pics with my phone... Lazy
This is a shad school at lunch time for bass and crappie that I took Tuesday. Only a few were large enough to be assiged the FishID symbols.
This shad school was not disturbed, YET
Just got a new Humminbird Helix 5 SI and saved some screenshots from first time on water with it. Still learning how to adjust settings and would appreciate any comments/suggestions.
1. Baitfish ball?
Thanks,
Mike
On 3/14/2015 at 8:53 AM, mik0317 said:
Just got a new Humminbird Helix 5 SI and saved some screenshots from first time on water with it. Still learning how to adjust settings and would appreciate any comments/suggestions.
1. Baitfish ball?
2. Crossing a channel or old roadbed?3. Fish/baitfish?
Thanks,
Mike
Good looking settings and I agree with your image analysis.
Thanks for the confirmation, Wayne!
I have a question re: location of object indicated by the cursor in this screenshot - is the distance shown the surface distance or the slant distance to the object?
On 3/14/2015 at 9:54 AM, mik0317 said:Thanks for the confirmation, Wayne!
I have a question re: location of object indicated by the cursor in this screenshot - is the distance shown the surface distance or the slant distance to the object?
Thanks,
Mike
Slant distance. When you do that, you can return to that location by watching the distance number change and do not have to create a waypoint.
Is that 122' of water? WOW!On 3/14/2015 at 9:54 AM, mik0317 said:Thanks for the confirmation, Wayne!
I have a question re: location of object indicated by the cursor in this screenshot - is the distance shown the surface distance or the slant distance to the object?
Thanks,
Mike
On 3/14/2015 at 7:51 PM, Hi Salenity said:Is that 122' of water? WOW!
If I'm reading the info correctly, it's 122' slant distance to the marked object from the boat and the object is in 33' of water.
Lol, I need coffee.
I took this screen shot yesterday with the ONIX.
It shows the vehicle creek crossing on the left side.
All the other lines are vehicle tracks too.
Wayne, you are to be commended for sharing your knowledge and your images!
I think I saw where this thread began couple of years ago? Have there been tech enhancements since then? Is your model considered pretty state of the art? If not, what would you buy today?
Do you consider your finder a must-have tool for you?
Is there an appreciable difference in a unit that costs around $2,000+- versus one that costs $3,000 or more? Thanks.
On 4/21/2015 at 10:04 PM, livemusic said:Wayne, you are to be commended for sharing your knowledge and your images!
I think I saw where this thread began couple of years ago? Have there been tech enhancements since then? Is your model considered pretty state of the art? If not, what would you buy today?
Do you consider your finder a must-have tool for you?
Is there an appreciable difference in a unit that costs around $2,000+- versus one that costs $3,000 or more? Thanks.
PM sent
Sorry for the crappy picture, it was raining so I was trying to be quick, it's off a HDS7 Gen 2. I just wanna know if this anything or what I'm looking at.
Appears to be fish
Without the fish ID do you just go by the long arches? Is there a way to tell what kind of fish they might be off limited feedback like the picture without DS or SS? I've got both but I'm trying to get better with sonor first although I do love DS.
very nice! thanks guys!
Found a boat today
Cool. Try again with less side distance set
Bass and White Perch around shad.
I was almost at the ramp when I noticed it. I know where it is now and will try and get a better picOn 6/3/2015 at 12:38 AM, Comfortably Numb said:Cool. Try again with less side distance set
New toy
A 360 and a 5 port
Showoff...lolOn 6/3/2015 at 1:44 AM, Hi Salenity said:New toy
A 360 and a 5 port
On 6/3/2015 at 1:44 AM, Hi Salenity said:New toy
A 360 and a 5 port
Good setup.
It finds fish too:
I have a couple for the group. Looking for any and all advice/comments as I am VERY new to the electronics. I just got my boat a few weeks ago. I am using an Elite 7 HDI on the bow with the transducer mounted to the trolling motor. Over all very happy with the unit. I have only been playing with the overlays, and colors. I haven't touched any other settings yet.
Not sure what this first picture is, I am assuming that what ever it is, it has the same hardness as the bottom since they are both yellow:
Screen004
For this next one I am assuming bait fish around the rock on the bottom. What I don't know is where those vertical/diagonal lines on the down scan are coming from. (Ignore the vertical stripe on the Structure Scan, that is interference from the trolling motor that we are working on)
Screen006
Note that my speed is slow since I was basically drifting with a slow current.
Edited by juhealyAny idea what this mass could be? Garmin Echo 201
On 6/13/2015 at 10:50 AM, MI.Kayaker said:Any idea what this mass could be? Garmin Echo 201
Bait ball
On 6/13/2015 at 11:01 AM, slonezp said:Bait ball
Without shad though... bluegill or perch?
I couldn't tell you what kind of bait. Looks like 8 or so larger fish surrounding it. Are you sure you don't have shad in the lake?
So
Some fish hanging around a brushpile.
Humminbird Helix 5 DI/GPS
Question about the Helix 5 SI unit picture posted here...I am new to the unit and still learning it and have caught a few fish based on what i have seen on the screen. My question is why does the left side of the image show vertical lines? I know horizontal lines are from the kayak rocking side to side but i can't figure out why the vertical lines are there and only on one side. I guess it could be the bottom or because when the picture was taken i stopped moving. I did notice the same type of lines when i was paddling though too. Anyways, love the unit and am definitely getting into the whole electronics aspect of fishing, I think it is time to get some marker buoys though as it will help me to mark offshore type structure since i am in a kayak it makes a little more difficult to hold my position, especially after catching a fish.
On 7/5/2015 at 10:20 PM, flyfisher said:Question about the Helix 5 SI unit picture posted here...I am new to the unit and still learning it and have caught a few fish based on what i have seen on the screen. My question is why does the left side of the image show vertical lines? I know horizontal lines are from the kayak rocking side to side but i can't figure out why the vertical lines are there and only on one side. I guess it could be the bottom or because when the picture was taken i stopped moving. I did notice the same type of lines when i was paddling though too. Anyways, love the unit and am definitely getting into the whole electronics aspect of fishing, I think it is time to get some marker buoys though as it will help me to mark offshore type structure since i am in a kayak it makes a little more difficult to hold my position, especially after catching a fish.
Those lines look like wave action erosion at different water levels.
Use about a 1/3 of the SI range you have set.
Here is a shot of Chirp on the right versus 2d sonar on the left. The Chirp transducer (TM-150M) is on my trolling motor along with an LSS-1. The 2d is the bilge PDRT-WBL.
Charlie
Cool pics
I have been looking at upgrading the electronics the previous owner had on my boat when I bought it. Two Humminbird Piranha Max 10s. Forget being manufactured before I was born... I am pretty sure they were discontinued before I was born.
I wish a few of you guys had included the name of the unit you were using with the photos.
Chirp on left, 200 on right, off a standard transducer and same settings:
On 1/15/2015 at 9:40 AM, Wayne P. said:If you want to really sharpen the images, you can use the HDSI transducer instead. Sort of expensive though.
I'm thinking about picking up a Helix 7 SI for my kayak. Would the HDSI transducer increase image quality a great deal over the compact transducer?
What kind of price are we talking? ~$300?
On 7/30/2015 at 4:12 AM, dolomieu said:I'm thinking about picking up a Helix 7 SI for my kayak. Would the HDSI transducer increase image quality a great deal over the compact transducer?
What kind of price are we talking? ~$300?
"a great deal"? no, better YES.
It improves all SI models that are shipped with the compact SI transducer.
Humminbird has a transducer exchange program. Contact them when you get the unit, and don't open the mount package. The exchange price including shipping is about $85
caskey_b that posted images above did that for his 899ci HD SI Combo.
Here is a recent one from here in Maryland. This guy was in a boating accident right near the Chesapeake Bay Bridge about a week ago, they found him using side scan. RIP.
On 8/15/2015 at 12:53 AM, nosdog2 said:Here is a recent one from here in Maryland. This guy was in a boating accident right near the Chesapeake Bay Bridge about a week ago, they found him using side scan. RIP.
Creepy
Found 2 more boats today. just took a pic of one since it had fish on it
Did some messing around with the 899 today.
Great shots!
On 8/23/2015 at 9:32 PM, nosdog2 said:Great shots!
Thanks. I'm still very new at this. It's super exciting to just watch what scrolls out. I did a bit more Sunday.
Posted this in the Garmin thread but I suppose it's more appropriate here.
All these big screen shots are making me very envious.
Lake is man made can be stumpy in area's. Thanks in advanced.
1. Fish arches or tree tops? I see this often while cruising.
2, Bait? Also notice the lines below 10 feet, I noticed a lot of the lake like this at those depths and lower, is that the thermocline?
3. Same as above, another example.
4. I use to run this area over with my old graph and notice it was odd, could this be an old bridge? I ran back over it with the DI but could've replicate the look.
5. Last one, I imagine a combo of bait and fish.
That would be the thermocline at 12'.
Curious why you dont turn the surface clutter down in the 2d
Down Imaging and Side Imaging with an ONIX 10 SI at the bow with the SI transducer on the trolling motor.
Some parts of the image are skewed due to turning the motor.
Very cool. Thanks for all the images. Any tips for side imaging in shallow water with a Lowrance HDS Gen 2? I see some great images on here in less than 5 feet of water. I can't seem to accomplish that. Must have it set wrong.
On 11/17/2015 at 9:28 AM, Little Fish.... said:Very cool. Thanks for all the images. Any tips for side imaging in shallow water with a Lowrance HDS Gen 2? I see some great images on here in less than 5 feet of water. I can't seem to accomplish that. Must have it set wrong.
You have the wrong brand for that capability. The most shallow coverage you can get is by using 455 kHz instead of 800 kHz.
This is Side Imaging with 200' of coverage in less than 4'. There is a bass at the lower left that I caught after seeing it displayed. I was heading back to the ramp and was just checking the ramp cove layout. There are submerged shoreline weeds on the right side.
i am still in my infancy of SI but i have seen those types of shapes on my screen before, referring to your bottom left comment, but wasn't sure if they were fish or not. guess i need to just find some more of them and try and catch them.
So in this instance, would this fish be behind your boat at the time you took this picture?
Thanks Wayne. You're correct. I changed it to 800 kHz because I read that is was better for more detail and less range. In your example my screen would be mostly the black line under the boat. I'll try 455 kHz. Thanks again.
On 11/17/2015 at 10:35 AM, flyfisher said:i am still in my infancy of SI but i have seen those types of shapes on my screen before, referring to your bottom left comment, but wasn't sure if they were fish or not. guess i need to just find some more of them and try and catch them.
So in this instance, would this fish be behind your boat at the time you took this picture?
Yes it was, the bottom of the screen is the oldest data.
I did not notice it at first, but when I did, I moved the screen curser to it to get the distance and direction, moved within casting distance and caught it with a Chatterbait. It was a 4# class largemouth-- a dink for that day since I had caught a 9-9 and 10-7 earlier.
Boats? I found boats!
My screen shots are a lot coarser/grainier than the image on my Garmin 93SV....
The neat thing about finding boats where I fish is, the water is so muddy, it's likely they've never been seen before! Even the large boat in 8 feet of water is invisible from the surface.
Tight lines,
Bob
I thought I'd share this one. Shows off the thermocline and how fish relate above it.
On 12/4/2015 at 10:57 PM, fishballer06 said:I thought I'd share this one. Shows off the thermocline and how fish relate above it.
There should be a way for you to take screen shots with the unit directly to a memory card
On 12/5/2015 at 12:03 AM, slonezp said:There should be a way for you to take screen shots with the unit directly to a memory card
There is, however this wasn't on my boat.
How many crappie can you squeeze into a shopping cart - LOL ???
LOL! Now that's a fun shot.
Just a few crappie
Comfortably Numb, What brand graph are you using?
Raymarine A98. I love it
How do you put a pic on here
Use Phptobucket and then put the image code here
Oh ok
Wow, this is a great forum! I have many screen shots I'll post when I get back home from business trip. I won't bore you all with to many but only pics that vex me.
I just discovered this forum. It's has great value. Can anyone validate the accuracy of fish ID symbols? If they are accurate seems folks should use them more to better interpret what is being displayed on screen. Good be a great learning tool. Example: I have to come to know that bass like to hug the bottom. So if you are fishing and you see displays and not sure if it's a fish or object wouldn't the fish ID be a good way to learn what's displayed on your screen? Now if I'm giving Fish ID to much credit then my idea is a bit in vain.
I have spent some time on a graph and still have my doubts at times.
On 1/3/2016 at 10:34 PM, Tom18xs said:I just discovered this forum. It's has great value. Can anyone validate the accuracy of fish ID symbols? If they are accurate seems folks should use them more to better interpret what is being displayed on screen. Good be a great learning tool. Example: I have to come to know that bass like to hug the bottom. So if you are fishing and you see displays and not sure if it's a fish or object wouldn't the fish ID be a good way to learn what's displayed on your screen? Now if I'm giving Fish ID to much credit then my idea is a bit in vain.
I have spent some time on a graph and still have my doubts at times.
Humminbird's FishID is a fishing tool that I use to determine if returns are fish I want to try to catch.
I show that with the screenshots I have posted.
The software has filters that only assign the symbols if those returns meet the criteria to be assigned the symbols.
Other brands will assign a fish symbol for anything and everything.
ccNow that is interesting. Especially, locating bass on the ledges on the bottom.
2015 73 sv garmin
A short afternoon of not finding any fish at an unfamiliar area of my river. I ran up on these guys leaving this area. They said they couldnt get the fish to bite anything they threw. Right as they left I threw a rattletrap about 30 yards from where they were and caught a 2lb'er. I threw for a while longer and never caught another.
That pic shows balls of baitfish (shad?)
As you discovered, find the bait and predators will be near
Helix 5 With HD transducer...
On 3/10/2016 at 7:58 AM, Frog Turds said:Helix 5 With HD transducer...
What are we looking at here? I'm still learning and need some descriptions
s freud, mostly rocks, big boulders and sand...5th one down looks like part of an old smaller bridge support of some kind maybe and the second to the last is submerged trees, most vertical...
this one below, i don't know what that is sticking up with like 4 squared off finger type things...my feeling its man made but don't know myself what it could be...
Thanks Frog. Submerged trees? Is that the tree tops then? I am leaning heavily toward getting a helix 5si in the near future and want to learn to read it as best I can. I recognize the best way will be playing with it once I get it, but you all and this thread are so helpful! That is a big hit to my budget so I want to make sure I get a good return (no pun intended, lol). I keep arguing with myself on DI vs SI due to the price difference. Hard to pay more for a fishfinder than I did for my whole boat/trailer/9.8 motor setup!
s freud, I'd get the SI/DI combo over just the DI...yes those are the trees/tops standing...best way to looks at a SI image is think of the image as a piece of paper then fold the piece of paper along that center boat line first...then where you see where the bottom starts on either side fold it again so the 2 folds make 90 degree angles...all the dark is the water column directly below the boat and bottom then goes out from directly below the boat to how ever many feet you set the graph to on either side...
print off an SI image and fold it like that to wrap your mind around it if necessary...
On 3/25/2016 at 1:44 AM, Frog Turds said:s freud, I'd get the SI/DI combo over just the DI...yes those are the trees/tops standing...best way to looks at a SI image is think of the image as a piece of paper then fold the piece of paper along that center boat line first...then where you see where the bottom starts on either side fold it again so the 2 folds make 90 degree angles...all the dark is the water column directly below the boat and bottom then goes out from directly below the boat to how ever many feet you set the graph to on either side...
print off an SI image and fold it like that to wrap your mind around it if necessary...
⬆⬆⬆ This, or check out the Humminbird web site, they explain the same thing but with a picture reference
On 3/24/2016 at 9:40 PM, s freud said:Thanks Frog. Submerged trees? Is that the tree tops then? I am leaning heavily toward getting a helix 5si in the near future and want to learn to read it as best I can. I recognize the best way will be playing with it once I get it, but you all and this thread are so helpful! That is a big hit to my budget so I want to make sure I get a good return (no pun intended, lol). I keep arguing with myself on DI vs SI due to the price difference. Hard to pay more for a fishfinder than I did for my whole boat/trailer/9.8 motor setup!
Doug Vahrenberg has a lot of videos on YouTube about Humminbirds. This one is the folded paper demo discussed:
On 3/24/2016 at 9:40 PM, s freud said:I keep arguing with myself on DI vs SI due to the price difference. Hard to pay more for a fishfinder than I did for my whole boat/trailer/9.8 motor setup!
Like most guys, I'd recommend getting the SI/DI combo unit with the biggest screen you can afford. I'm sure you will not regret it! DI is great, but SI is like looking at a photo of the bottom. It's pretty shocking when you look at the display and can plainly see exactly what you're passing over. Imagine being able to spot a tree laying in the water 25 feet to one side of your boat. And you can see which branches are on the bottom, which are upright, and where fish are holding in it. I've had mine a year and I'm still amazed by it.
Tight lines,
Bob
More traditional sonar images please if anyone has em.
On 3/29/2016 at 5:16 AM, Neil McCauley said:More traditional sonar images please if anyone has em.
Of what subject? I have hundreds of screen shots.
Frog thoe Helix5 pics are really impressive.
On 3/24/2016 at 8:26 AM, Frog Turds said:s freud, mostly rocks, big boulders and sand...5th one down looks like part of an old smaller bridge support of some kind maybe and the second to the last is submerged trees, most vertical...
this one below, i don't know what that is sticking up with like 4 squared off finger type things...my feeling its man made but don't know myself what it could be...
Similar to this object I found. I also have no idea what it is.
On 3/29/2016 at 5:30 AM, Wayne P. said:Of what subject? I have hundreds of screen shots.
Whatever you think is worthwhile, I'm still new to sonar.
On 4/2/2016 at 12:32 PM, Neil McCauley said:
Whatever you think is worthwhile, I'm still new to sonar.
Summer profile to determine the thermocline level to eliminate where the fish will not be and where they will be:
http://s238.photobucket.com/user/WayneP_photos/media/Sonar%20Shots/HRoctThermo.jpg.html?sort=3&o=142
1st day with side imaging. Are the two odd shaped things fish behind that rock?
Looks like two fish on the left side of that "wall" and seven others around that log/branch.
Thank you just got home and playing with it recorded my trip and playing it on my pc..Very interesting what is on the bottom. Give me a month and I'll have it down. Lol
On 4/4/2016 at 6:42 AM, fishman393 said:1st day with side imaging. Are the two odd shaped things fish behind that rock?
Can anyone tell me is that a turtle on the mid right??
On 3/31/2016 at 11:18 PM, Comfortably Numb said:Frog thoe Helix5 pics are really impressive.
Similar to this object I found. I also have no idea what it is.
Godzirra!
I noticed this post has been going on awhile and I wanted to say "Thanks and keep it up please" - I started bass fishing seriously when I bought my boat back in August 2015. I put an Elite 5 HDI on the console and a Mark 5 on the front. Your post have helped me with my electronics better than anything else I have tried so far. I am taking a trip to Lake Russell next week for 3 days and looking forward to putting all your info to good use. (or at least trying) I seem to get better results when I take it off Auto and adjust the Down Scan and Sonar myself, but I really don't understand the color line setting as opposed to how it helps. Can any of you talk about these settings for the Elite 5? Thanks again.
I took my new Helix 7 out for the first time yesterday which was a blast and an eye opening experience. I have a few questions about some of the images, and if any of the experts out there have any feedback I'd love to hear it. I forgot my SD card at home, so sorry about the cell phone pics.
#1 2D Sonar - The thick red line surrounded by the blue haze was for the most part in all of my 2D scans at the 40 foot level. You can see that it starts on this slope at 40 feet. Is this a thermocline maybe?
#2 - In this shot, there is a ghosty cloud about mid screen in the side imaging. You can see it above the small logs in the down imaging as well. Any ideas what that might be? Bait fish?
#3 - Propwash?
Thanks for any suggestions. I'm really looking forward to getting out again soon to build on the knowledge.
-Take care
Thanks, Caskey!
All taken with my old Humminbird 997C SI
Fish cribs and sunken boat - yeah, you can count the seats.
Hole in a weedbed
Mid-lake gravel bar
Here are some traditional sonar ones with my first little FF.
Some lake trout:
Fish diving down? Boat was moving. Maybe it came up for the lure I was trolling then went back down.
Pretty sure a weedbed. Caught tons of SMB here.
Boat sitting still, just released the fish on the right.
Boat moving again, no clue what this is. submerged buoy anchored to the bottom?
Wow, great thread! I spend half my time trying to figure out if what I am seeing on my fishfinder is what I think I am seeing on my fishfinder
Mi11er, that's the beauty of side imaging. You don't have to guess.
On 5/19/2016 at 8:00 PM, Further North said:Mi11er, that's the beauty of side imaging. You don't have to guess.
I'm still getting used to it, but it's amazing. Being able to tell that the brushpile I'm fishing is a hardwood or a cedar blows me away.
Jigging for a laker.
ok so i have been through every page in this. I am n need of a little help. I just purchased a bass raider 10 with a 3.5 hp motor and a trolling motor. I really want to put a fish finder on it. Well i really cant spend a 1000 on a finder but 4-5 maybe max at 600 i can probably swing. I really enjoy scuba diving as well. I think i would spend a lot of time with fish finder not even fishing lol..
Can any one help me choose a finder that can help me with all this.
Check out the Humminbird Helix line of FFs.
On 6/7/2016 at 3:43 AM, boostr said:Check out the Humminbird Helix line of FFs.
Think i might have them narrowed down to these 3 lol.
Lowrance Elite 5 Ti TotalScan Fishfinder/GPS Combo
Garmin STRIKER™ 7sv CHIRP Sonar/GPS Fishfinder Combo - but not gps or maps
Humminbird Helix 5 SI GPS Fishfinder
I have the Helix 5 SI, It's a nice FF.
On 6/7/2016 at 4:02 AM, boostr said:I have the Helix 5 SI, It's a nice FF.
I am really interested in the side imaging. I am kinda geek so i think i would spend a lot of time just playing with the FF. That and i like to dive so be a cool way to see in real life what was below me lol
How did you mount your system to your Bass Raider if i may ask?
On 6/7/2016 at 4:27 AM, Joshua Colvey said:I am really interested in the side imaging. I am kinda geek so i think i would spend a lot of time just playing with the FF. That and i like to dive so be a cool way to see in real life what was below me lol
How did you mount your system to your Bass Raider if i may ask?
I don't have a Bass Raider, but I have it attached to my Kayak with a Ram Mounts Helix mounting kit. It's pretty much a universal kit to be mounted to whatever. The Transducers hangs off the side attached to a Ram Mounts transducer arm, but you can probably mount the transducer to the transom of the Bass Raider like a conventional boat.
Side Imaging is actually good for seeing structure of to the sides at distances. Then mark interesting spots, and use the down scan when you arrive at the spot.
Thanks for the info. I am not to sure about drilling holes in the boat under the water line. Id rather be safe than sorry since these boats are not any type of metal or fiberglass. I would rather make it where i can remove it from this boat and take it with me on my father in laws boat as well if i can.
Maybe you should start another thread. This thread is dedicated to screenshots
I did. Thanks.
Raymarine A98
Stripers?
Bluegill low and crappie up
You guys have some amazing screenshots . I'm new with a downscan unit and havent learned it well yet . Yesterday I located an old bridge that I use to drive across . Pretty primitive compared to the other shots here but it was neat seeing that old bridge again .
Tarpon
I snapped a few photos of things I have been seeing that I cannot identify. Hoping you guys could help me out. Some info on the lake: it is tiny, about 50 surface acres located in southern Ohio. It is a reservoir, very silted in near the ramp, gradually drops to ~15' and as deep as 20' right in front of the dam. Populations of large mouth, channel cats, crappie, tons of blue gill. Possibly other species but those are all I have caught. Lastly, what can you tell me about the bottom composition from what you see? It looks hard to me... but when I drag a jig it feels mushy and I have never for a jig bite here, making me think it is too soft.
Thanks!
#1) Weird streaks. Grouped up, coming off the bottom from 10' to 4'. What are they?
#2) Fairly typical of what I see. Do you see any bass here? I see a small rock to the left and it looks like a thermocline at like 13'. Right above I see arches but they look small on the down imaging.
#3) Bad lighting on this one. Looks like actively feeding bass? Could it be channel cats? Do they school?
On 8/31/2016 at 3:56 AM, ciarlill said:I snapped a few photos of things I have been seeing that I cannot identify. Hoping you guys could help me out. Some info on the lake: it is tiny, about 50 surface acres located in southern Ohio. It is a reservoir, very silted in near the ramp, gradually drops to ~15' and as deep as 20' right in front of the dam. Populations of large mouth, channel cats, crappie, tons of blue gill. Possibly other species but those are all I have caught. Lastly, what can you tell me about the bottom composition from what you see? It looks hard to me... but when I drag a jig it feels mushy and I have never for a jig bite here, making me think it is too soft.
Thanks!
#1) Weird streaks. Grouped up, coming off the bottom from 10' to 4'. What are they?
#2) Fairly typical of what I see. Do you see any bass here? I see a small rock to the left and it looks like a thermocline at like 13'. Right above I see arches but they look small on the down imaging.
#3) Bad lighting on this one. Looks like actively feeding bass? Could it be channel cats? Do they school?
The top photo I interpret as moving fish and when In see moving fish I assume they are feeding .
The second photo is fish with something on the bottom . I am not real good at distinguishing type of fish on a sonar unit . Could be bass , channel cats ... I see a lot of catfish on my sonar that look like this . I fish for channels too and this is what I look for .
Third photo is a huge school of something . Yes channel cats do form large groups. I'm going to take a stab at this and say white bass or other schooling fish such as crappie, might just be shad . . I would definitely toss a buoy and fish it .
Sorry for the crappy picture. Screenshot off the go free app and I'm also just starting to learn imaging adjustments. Wanted some thoughts from y'all.
I know that the structure is the old dam. I interpret the returns past the break in it as a group of fish. Are the "potholes" beds? Does the fuzzy line in the water look like the thermocline or would you interpret it as something else?
Sorry if this should've been a seperate thread rather than under screenshots. Wasn't sure.
On 10/22/2016 at 7:41 AM, Ski213 said:Sorry for the crappy picture. Screenshot off the go free app and I'm also just starting to learn imaging adjustments. Wanted some thoughts from y'all.
I know that the structure is the old dam. I interpret the returns past the break in it as a group of fish. Are the "potholes" beds? Does the fuzzy line in the water look like the thermocline or would you interpret it as something else?
Sorry if this should've been a seperate thread rather than under screenshots. Wasn't sure.
I think you have done well interpreting what the images shows. I don't think all the depressions are fish beds though--maybe from construction equipment. The patterns would suggest that.
I see beds that deep at several lakes I fish and those were done when the water level was much lower either during drought or filling the lake when new.
I also see bulldozer tracks on the bottom at a lake that was opened to fishing in 1989.
On 10/22/2016 at 8:50 AM, Wayne P. said:I think you have done well interpreting what the images shows. I don't think all the depressions are fish beds though--maybe from construction equipment. The patterns would suggest that.
I see beds that deep at several lakes I fish and those were done when the water level was much lower either during drought or filling the lake when new.
I also see bulldozer tracks on the bottom at a lake that was opened to fishing in 1989.
Thanks Wayne. Makes sense about equipment marks since they were so close to where the old dam was intentionally breached. I didn't even think about that.
The imaging is fairly new to me and I'm pretty excited about it. I'm just starting to gain some understanding of what I'm seeing and I have a long way to go. I'm just to the point where it helps me get a little bit of a visual of what's actually down there.
Some more budget-sonar shots
Found another boat. Looks like there might be some fish in it
Nice shot. It does look like there's fish on it. I like that green palette myself.
On 10/24/2016 at 3:52 AM, pawpaw said:Nice shot. It does look like there's fish on it. I like that green palette myself.
Green is easiest for me to see with bluebird skies
On 10/24/2016 at 4:39 AM, slonezp said:Green is easiest for me to see with bluebird skies
Same here. Amber is my favorite but when the sun is high green shows best
On 10/24/2016 at 3:49 AM, slonezp said:Found another boat. Looks like there might be some fish in it
They want to go boating/fishing! I dont blame them!
Ok guys - you may have to endure a bit of my learning curve....but here goes
Unit: Humminbird 698 SI/DI
Viewer: Humviewer
Based on the image (crappy, I know) are there any obvious settings that I can fine tune to increase the quality of the imaging? On either the unit or the Humviewer software?
Why does the 2d look so poor? Is it just the cheaper unit?
Thanks.
On 11/15/2016 at 3:21 AM, Hez said:Ok guys - you may have to endure a bit my learning curve....but here goes
Unit: Humminbird 698 SI/DI
Viewer: Humviewer
Based on the image (crappy, I know) are there any obvious settings that I can fine tune to increase the quality of the imaging? On either the unit or the Humviewer software?
Why does the 2d look so poor? Is it just the cheaper unit?
Thanks.
You won't get good images with HumViewer since a recording is raw data unfiltered by unit settings.
Learn how to take unit screen snapshots to show what you are seeing on the unit.
On 11/15/2016 at 3:26 AM, Wayne P. said:You won't get good images with HumViewer since a recording is raw data unfiltered by unit settings.
Learn how to take unit screen snapshots to show what you are seeing on the unit.
Ok - will do.
Will research that and hopefully be back with some better images.
On 11/15/2016 at 3:40 AM, Hez said:Ok - will do.
Will research that and hopefully be back with some better images.
You already have the setup for that, just push the Mark button. Snapshots are written to the memory card just like Recordings are. The snapshots will be .png picture files with a pixel count that is the screen pixel count. Snaphots will be in a Snapshot folder on the memory card.
On 11/15/2016 at 3:44 AM, Wayne P. said:You already have the setup for that, just push the Mark button. Snapshots are written to the memory card just like Recordings are. The snapshots will be .png picture files with a pixel count that is the screen pixel count. Snaphots will be in a Snapshot folder on the memory card.
Got it. Thank you.
Now just add water, right?
OK - I have a little bit better screen shots. Unfortunately, I didn't have any specific structure to scan today - will try to locate more tomorrow. Out of the few screenshots I did get, I do have a couple of questions.
In this screenshot, I think that is a fish at about 12', but I am questioning my sonar settings now. What do you think? Clutter or fish? I can almost see that defined arch.
Same here at 18'
Any obvious fine tuning that can be done, please let me know. Thanks.
Will follow up with some pics of scanned structure with known fish later.
On 11/21/2016 at 8:41 AM, Hez said:OK - I have a little bit better screen shots. Unfortunately, I didn't have any specific structure to scan today - will try to locate more tomorrow. Out of the few screenshots I did get, I do have a couple of questions.
In this screenshot, I think that is a fish at about 12', but I am questioning my sonar settings now. What do you think? Clutter or fish? I can almost see that defined arch.
Same here at 18'
Any obvious fine tuning that can be done, please let me know. Thanks.
Will follow up with some pics of scanned structure with known fish later.
Turn up your sensitivity a bit. You're marking fish in both screen shots
On 11/21/2016 at 12:40 PM, slonezp said:Turn up your sensitivity a bit. You're marking fish in both screen shots
Ok - will do. Sensitivity was at 8 for the DI and the traditional sonar. I will bump those up and see what happens.
Thanks for the feedback.
On 11/21/2016 at 7:28 PM, Hez said:Ok - will do. Sensitivity was at 8 for the DI and the traditional sonar. I will bump those up and see what happens.
Thanks for the feedback.
try bumping it up to 10 or 11 and remember you can always adjust things on the water depending on water conditions. Algae, current, wind, and boat traffic will affect how you set your sensitivity
On 7/23/2016 at 1:45 AM, BrianLambert said:I'm in the tri-cities, love to chase bass. I fish mostly out of a Jackson Big Rig.
Edited by WW angler
Took this pic this afternoon, for the past 4 winters this spot has looked like this, I can't catch a fish in this mess and trust me I have slung everything except for a stick of dynamite. It's hard to compete with the real deal. Cool 2 see it though.
What do you see in his picture? There were hundreds of dying shad on the surface above it. I'd really like to know what I'm looking at. Thanks
"Elite 7 HDI"
On 12/22/2016 at 9:58 AM, DoDFire said:Took this pic this afternoon, for the past 4 winters this spot has looked like this, I can't catch a fish in this mess and trust me I have slung everything except for a stick of dynamite. It's hard to compete with the real deal. Cool 2 see it though.
That is what I look for during the cold water period. I use the FishID setting to determine if there are any suitable predators like in your picture that are feeding. Makes the decision to try to catch easier.
Just some screen shots from today...
Very Kool, Scott!!
On 2/27/2017 at 11:05 AM, scotty918 said:Just some screen shots from today...
Use Contrast some to lighten up the MEGA SI images.
I like to use dual frequency for the FishID symbols so I get the gold high frequency and green med frequency symbols. Shows if more fish are in the area.
I'll make the adjustments. I'm going out on the lake again next weekend. Thanks for the pointers.
Just some screen shots from today.
On 3/19/2017 at 8:52 AM, Wayne P. said:
What unit is that?
On 3/19/2017 at 9:19 AM, Hi Salenity said:What unit is that?
Humminbird SOLIX
On 3/22/2017 at 4:46 AM, Wayne P. said:
Humminbird SOLIX
Did you get the 15?
Those are amazing pics.
On 3/22/2017 at 5:32 AM, Hi Salenity said:Did you get the 15?
Those are amazing pics.
No that model is not available yet.
Are the fish-id icons that look like fish unique to the Solix?
I've got a Helix 10 DI G2N in the garage, and a Helix 12 SI G2N on the way to be installed shortly...will I get the cool fishy icons?
This is a older pic, I had a ton of better pictures with baitballs almost the size of the helix screen but can't
find them so this will have to do...
On 3/24/2017 at 12:34 PM, Further North said:Are the fish-id icons that look like fish unique to the Solix?
I've got a Helix 10 DI G2N in the garage, and a Helix 12 SI G2N on the way to be installed shortly...will I get the cool fishy icons?
Yes
On 3/19/2017 at 8:52 AM, Wayne P. said:
Looking good Wayne keep the Mega images coming! The second to last image you posted is that a school of larger fish on the left or is it a baitball?
On 3/24/2017 at 8:17 PM, 12poundbass said:Looking good Wayne keep the Mega images coming! The second to last image you posted is that a school of larger fish on the left or is it a baitball?
It's crappie---large ones, they school vertically.
On 3/24/2017 at 5:41 PM, 12poundbass said:Yes
Yes to which? Unique to Solix, or I'll get them on the Helix?
On 12/29/2014 at 2:18 AM, Wayne P. said:Preditor/prey relationship.
When the two are separated doing their own thing, all is pieceful:
When it gets close to meal time, they are closer together:
Then the munching starts:
In the image directly above this text fish icons are shown. In some cases it is clear that there are fish there based on the raw data. For the 27 foot case, not clear to me. What are the criteria that Humminbird uses to determine whether to create a fish icon or not? On my old Eagle Fish Elite 640 I turn them off as most of the time I can interpret the raw data quite well, and clearly, most of the time the icons are "false indicators." I'm getting new Humminbirds electronics and would like to gain some insight into the fish icons on it. thanks,
On 3/25/2017 at 11:12 AM, Further North said:Yes to which? Unique to Solix, or I'll get them on the Helix?
You'll get them on the helix. Sorry for the confusion.
On 3/25/2017 at 11:57 AM, MickD said:In the image directly above this text fish icons are shown. In some cases it is clear that there are fish there based on the raw data. For the 27 foot case, not clear to me. What are the criteria that Humminbird uses to determine whether to create a fish icon or not? On my old Eagle Fish Elite 640 I turn them off as most of the time I can interpret the raw data quite well, and clearly, most of the time the icons are "false indicators." I'm getting new Humminbirds electronics and would like to gain some insight into the fish icons on it. thanks,
Air bladder size. It take at least a 1# bass to get the smallest FishID symbol.
There are two sets of symbols, one for fresh water and one for salt water.
Only Humminbird does that. Anything in the water column can the represented by arches "raw data".
If you fish for small species, it won't be any benefit to you.
On 3/25/2017 at 11:12 AM, Further North said:Yes to which? Unique to Solix, or I'll get them on the Helix?
The Helix has them also, just a different looking fish symbol. Sort of looks like a walleye.
The SOLIX is the new version of ONIX. The ONIX FishID symbols were shaped like tuna. That was changed with the last software update so the ONIX and SOLIX look the same. Yes, I have an ONIX also.
This is what the ONIX symbols looked like originally:
On 3/25/2017 at 12:19 PM, 12poundbass said:You'll get them on the helix. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks!
...they look like walleye...which is funny, cuz they are the fish I fish for least...
On 3/25/2017 at 8:21 PM, Wayne P. said:
Air bladder size. It take at least a 1# bass to get the smallest FishID symbol.
There are two sets of symbols, one for fresh water and one for salt water.
Only Humminbird does that. Anything in the water column can the represented by arches "raw data".
If you fish for small species, it won't be any benefit to you.
The Helix has them also, just a different looking fish symbol. Sort of looks like a walleye.
The SOLIX is the new version of ONIX. The ONIX FishID symbols were shaped like tuna. That was changed with the last software update so the ONIX and SOLIX look the same. Yes, I have an ONIX also.
This is what the ONIX symbols looked like originally:
Thanks Wayne...
I've got a friend with a couple of Onix units...both have had trouble with moisture inside the SD card slots causing corrosion on the contacts.
I tend to let technology mature for a year before I buy it...so I went with Helix this time as it's been 5 years since I updated.
This is the Helix FishID symbols:
From my Garmin 73SV: not sure if they're just roads, or old bridges...
On 6/1/2017 at 12:27 AM, redbirdsfan44 said:
Need to increase the Sensitivity some with that Helix 9 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N.
On 6/1/2017 at 1:09 AM, Wayne P. said:
Need to increase the Sensitivity some with that Helix 9 CHIRP MEGA SI GPS G2N.
Dang. I saw your avitar pop up under screen shots and was hoping you were posting some MEGA shots....
On 6/1/2017 at 8:05 AM, 12poundbass said:Image 3: on the left fish beds? On the right above the frequency is that a fish?
Image 4: what is the box?
Image 3 & 4 the line along the surface is that just interference?
Like always great images Wayne
Image 3. Spawning bluegills----no a stick, there are more above it.
Image 4. Fish attractor
Lines on the right side are echoes from a transom trolling motor, I was fishing an electric-only lake driving the boat from the console with the transom electric motor linked to the outboard for steering.
First two screen shots was using the outboard on two others lakes.
BTW, I don't use the MEGA frequency for fishing purposes, just demo screen shots. I prefer the wider coverage of 455 kHz or that CHIRPed.
On 6/1/2017 at 9:45 AM, Wayne P. said:
Image 3. Spawning bluegills----no a stick, there are more above it.
Image 4. Fish attractor
Lines on the right side are echoes from a transom trolling motor, I was fishing an electric-only lake driving the boat from the console with the transom electric motor linked to the outboard for steering.
First two screen shots was using the outboard on two others lakes.
BTW, I don't use the MEGA frequency for fishing purposes, just demo screen shots. I prefer the wider coverage of 455 kHz or that CHIRPed.
PM Sent
On 6/1/2017 at 9:45 AM, Wayne P. said:
Image 3. Spawning bluegills----no a stick, there are more above it.
Image 4. Fish attractor
Lines on the right side are echoes from a transom trolling motor, I was fishing an electric-only lake driving the boat from the console with the transom electric motor linked to the outboard for steering.
First two screen shots was using the outboard on two others lakes.
BTW, I don't use the MEGA frequency for fishing purposes, just demo screen shots. I prefer the wider coverage of 455 kHz or that CHIRPed.
I like to see how you connected your TM to your remote steering.
So I'm very new to fish finders, having owned my Lowrance Elite-7 Ti for only a couple weeks. Still learning but I'm starting to get some better side shots, downscan hasn't been great and I haven't figured out the 2d at all.
Submerged fallen tree:
Downscan of submerged standing trees, not sure why they don't show better:
Wondering about these next two, are either of these fish?
Turtle maybe?
Helix 12 CHIRP SI...unfortunately the SI was set to 455 Hz or we would have been able to see which end of the fish was the head.
...and a messed with the GPS Coordinates...it's about 945 miles off...
PS: I lied about the miles too.
Would love to see this thread active again. I have learned a lot from previous posts. I finally got a decent unit that can now take screenshots, but I have lots of questions so will be posting them here. Once the water returns from the ice. The rest of you can share though!
I wana be me not you so iuse paddles no moters I fish fonf00d g sonar is evi1 evi1 I say on parrs with tr0lin and god fobide live bait
I feel like I still have some adjustments to make, but I think this is bass feeding on bait fish in some grass. Is that right? Anyone that can give me setting tips I would appreciate. I have a Helix 7 GN SI with HD transducer.
What is this? Grass? No fish correct? I didn't have FishID on.
Last one for now. I have no clue what this is, but it looks tall because it is casting a big shadow right? I don't see any fish either, do you?
That bottom picture kind of looks like an old bridge post or something manmade