Step in here for a debate.....(Fishing....Natural Talent vs. Learned Talent?) 2024
Manigotapee reply :
Ok I have been thinking about something lately.....
like I assume most of you do, i consider tournament fishing a sport and anglers are "athletes".
Like all sports, the more you practice, the better you will become; but what is fascinating to me is that unlike other sports (I believe) there is not a specific physical advantage from person to person.
(Example: tall people have more potential to play pro basketball than a short guy)
So my question/debate with everyone is......
Can anyone "become" a professional angler? Not professional like retired, just making extra cash or college student making extra cash (ME), but legit professional making a good, not decent, but a good living and being able to support a family?
or
Is there a physical attribute that makes one a better angler and those are the people that have it can make it?
If my beliefs are correct, anyone who puts in the time and HARD work can become a pro?
I know that a big factor is MONEY and support to get started up and move up the ranks, but that aside, just from a talent standpoint, why couldn't anyone not scared of hard work be a pro angler?
just some food for thought...... 
done reply :
I think there can be traits which give someone an advantage.
I have a good bud I fish with a lot, this dude catches the crap out of fish. Dresses like a cowboy, but whether it is trout, bass, or anything else, he will always outcatch me, or anyone else I bring.
One reason, he has a VERY patient and methodical nature. When he works a hole, he will work it carefully, very calmly, more so than anyone else I know. It is sometimes almost annoying but he will pull a fish out of a hole nobody else does. He always seems to know what holes to hit and what ones not to.
You can always work on your patience, but if it comes naturally, you have an advantage. Someone who naturally can cast accurately IMO, also starts with an advantage. I also believe intelligence, can give you a great advantage, in learning the fish.
Going to the pro section of this site, having a natural ability to sell yourself, product will get you sponsors. Based on what I have read there I would say a great salesman would get the sponsor over perhaps a better fisherman.
Above all else I think having that passion for fishing helps you to learn and expand your skills further than someone who like it.
There is obviously though a lot that can be learned.
Big Mike in Fl reply :
physical...no, I don't believe so.
now mentally, that's different. people who are smarter, more perceptive, have better memories and understanding and knowledge than others...that's where the difference lies.
the rest is instincts, money,and even a certain amount of luck to be any good at bass fishing professionally. that's my opinion.
Grey Wolf reply :
Brains=80 %
Physical=20 %
MitchIsFishin reply :
Quoteanglers are "athletes"
No, no they're not. Smart, yep. athletes, no.
Pitchinkid reply :
Personally i believe not just anybody can be a pro angler. The determination and commitment are second to none in any sport. Physically demanding? Not as much at mentally, but have you ever threw a jerkbait or a deepdivin crankbait all day. Then multiply that day for 4 straight days of tournaments. Alot more physically demanding than one might believe.Not to mention the practice days leading up too it. 8-12 tournaments ,it adds up. The mind set of the top pros is truly a marvel. Id like think of myself as one hell of a stick. I know i can fish everyday and love it, but to be consistently competitive day in and day out, with the amount of money they fish for on the line, knowing your family is depending on you to catch fish, WOW. They are incredible.I had a melt down myself this past weekend. I lost 2 big fish at the boat. This is a local club tournament with about $600 bucks on the line, i flipped out. It was worthy of Ike himself. But back to the topic,i think there are just some people who have a knack for it, and have the ability to learn and APPLY what they have learned in pressured situations.
Crappiebasser reply :
I think brains are the most important thing but it does take some athletic ability to survive the schedule they fish. I would like to see a show like Day on The Lake where the pros come take my boat and sub-par tackle out and try to catch fish and I take their fully equipped rig on the same lake. I'd still get beat but it would be interesting to watch.
FishingPirate reply :
Id side with a delicate balance of both. If you know how to fish well but not where, you probably wont get very far. If you know your patterns and such but cant work a bait very well, like if your fishing to fast, casting badly, fishing with no efficiency, whatever, that wont treat you very well either. The mental aspect is critical as well. Being able to remain level headed under stress is tremendous.
TyTy reply :
I was thinkin the other day while fishing something about this that applies. Not that I am striving to be a profesional bass fisherman but I figure if I did want to be one and I had an unlimited budget...as in I could fish every day all week, travel wherever I wanted, etc.
I would probably seek out the best guides on the profesional circuit lakes and fish with one for a few days, then fish by myself, then go to another lake...do the same.
That would have to be as close to going to bass fishing school as available to train to go pro.
Manigotapee reply :
QuoteQuoteanglers are "athletes"No, no they're not. Smart, yep. athletes, no.
This is could be debated, but we'll save that for another day ;D
Tin reply :
95% Physical 5% brains....just look at Burley ;D
bilgerat reply :
Similar to golf as in you need a ridiculous amount of time on the water to reach that next level, much as top golfers will hit 1000 balls a day in practice.
Most guys here on this site would dramatically improve if they could fish 30 - 40 hours a week. I know I could. 
burleytog reply :
Quote95% Physical 5% brains....just look at Burley ;D
The brain is my problem. If only I had a way to disconnect... :-/
I've given a lot of thought to things of this nature over the years. IMO, some people are naturals. Then there are the sorry ******** like myself.
Mottfia reply :
practice makes perfect
Mottfia
SCswitchback reply :
Anyone can become a "good" fisherman, but it requires a natural talent and drive to become a "pro"
Manigotapee reply :
QuoteI was thinkin the other day while fishing something about this that applies. Not that I am striving to be a profesional bass fisherman but I figure if I did want to be one and I had an unlimited budget...as in I could fish every day all week, travel wherever I wanted, etc.I would probably seek out the best guides on the profesional circuit lakes and fish with one for a few days, then fish by myself, then go to another lake...do the same.
That would have to be as close to going to bass fishing school as available to train to go pro.
This is where I disagree....
That may make you good on those lakes because you would have spots, but overall would that make you a better angler? I think there is a big picture/formula for success and it involves reading the water your fishing and reading the fish you are fishing, then fishing flawlessly while executing your plan.
I personally feel that the lakes I know really well, I tend to struggle on becuase I get stuck in the grove of fishing history, not "the moment".
It's interesting to see everyone's thoughts on this. I should have clarified that money/time/family isn't an issue. I want to know if anyone that has the drive can mold themselves into a pro?
LCpointerKILLA reply :
QuoteQuoteanglers are "athletes"No, no they're not. Smart, yep. athletes, no.
x2
The only nature to fishing would be the act of havesting fish as a food source. Flipping your evo jig with your new quantum baitcaster hasn't been around long enough to be programmed in your DNA (aka evolve). It's possible that the mystery and excitement of catching a fish is something that can be traced to early humans.
Fish Chris reply :
The only thing I was "born with" is a love for fishing.
As for talent (whatever small amount of it I have that pertains to fishing) all 100% of it has been learned, just from time on the water (and the internet ;-)
But hey, when Mitchisfishing said >
QuoteIt's possible that the mystery and excitement of catching a fish is something that can be traced to early humans.
No dude..... It's not just 'possible'....... that is absolutely, positively the whole answer in a nutshell ! People who "just don't get it" are completely out of touch with why humans are, who and what they are.
It's the same thing that makes dogs great pets...... Because they evolved as pack animals. Yea', your dog loves you (and you him) because your the pack leader. Pretty amazing that after hundreds of years of domestication, that dogs still retain the pack mentality.
And on the same note, we are still hunter-gatherers.
Some things never change :-)
Peace,
Fish
CRFisher reply :
I believe it's patience and intelligence that makes the difference between an average fisherman and a good fisherman. Another issue is money - boats, electronics, gas and equipment cost money, along with the time to fish. There is some natural talent involved as well, but I think the top 3 needs are patience, intelligence and cash. Natural talent fits there in as well, but I think it's there with desire as 4th or 5th in the equation.
nickb reply :
QuoteSimilar to golf as in you need a ridiculous amount of time on the water to reach that next level, much as top golfers will hit 1000 balls a day in practice.Most guys here on this site would dramatically improve if they could fish 30 - 40 hours a week. I know I could.
shoot. i know i could catch a bunch if i could fish 30-40 hours a week. another help would be more variety in my locations.
Eddie Munster reply :
IMO if you can be grossly overweight/out of shape and STILL be good at something, you're not an athlete. Bowlers, golfers, fishermen, etc...may have athletic looking bodies but they're not athletes.
Also, brains wins out over natural ability in fishing IMO. Brains will have you studying more, practicing more and learning from success/failures.
SirSnookalot reply :
QuoteBowlers, golfers, fishermen, etc...may have athletic looking bodies but they're not athletes
Tiger Woods, Gregg Norman, Jack Nicklaus aren't athletes, just to name a few? Nicklaus played college basketball before he turned to golf, Norman a surfer, and Tiger Woods would probably excel at most sports. I doubt that most pro fisherman could even walk 18 holes 4 days in a row on hilly courses. Before and after their rounds they are hitting tons of balls and most work out an hour or 2 a day. You bet they are athletes.
As far as making a living being a pro fisherman, doubtful, unless you are able to reach the upper echelon. I don't think there is enough money out there until you reach the big leagues. You've got to score high and frequently to support both travel and your family at home.
All this being said I see no difference between your desire and that of an inner city youth trying to "get out" by using professional boxing as a vehicle. Not wanting to discourage, just being realistic.
Catt reply :
Is an angler an athlete?
Definition of athlete: a person possessing the natural or acquired traits, such as strength, agility, and endurance that are necessary for physical exercise or sports, especially those performed in competitive contexts.
As one grows older one will come to understand the importance of the physical aspect of angling.
Can anyone "become" a professional angler?
Nope!
After spending many years teaching others the fine art of angling I can assure you some get it while others never will. Oh they will become masters of flipping, pitching, or casting at tiny targets but can not decipher structure if they life depended on it.
Money has absolutely nothing to do with it; Rick Clunn won 4 Classics with tackle that would be considered inferior by today's standards. The #1 key to consistently catching bass is between your ears not between the folds of your wallet.
Fishing history and not the moment"; while this sounds good think about this if you have no history you will not know how to fish the moment. If you do what you've always done, you'll get what you always got.
TommyBass reply :
Physical is some, you have to be able to stand on the front of the boat controlling it in the wind etc for 8+ hrs. Being able to lean over to get stuff constantly or crouch to pitch under dock all help. I have known alot of people with natural talent for things and fishing is one of them. That is not something to be underestimated. If you fish against them and all they use is a purple worm along banks, you better have a good pattern figured out because they always are guarenteed to have a few good keepers. If you take somebody like that and give them the will and knowledge that many of the unnaturals have, thats when they become dangerous in the fishing world. Knowledge will win in the end in most cases, but if your natural at it its just a huge start ahead. Someone mentioned this and I think it is one of the most important aspects of fishing. If you can make good, VERY accurate casts with silent entries your already a step ahead of the crowd as well. So to answer your question... No.. not everyone. People with alot of time to practice and natural talent are the ones you'll see at the top. And sorry I have to disagree about the cash thing... it is somewhat important. Many of the bigger tournaments you have to fish to get a name for yourself require huge entry fees that many americans simply cannot afford to take a risk on responsibly.
Captain Obvious reply :
X2 what Catt said
I know I want to become a pro and I don't see myself becoming good enough until at least five years more, and that will have to be with hundreds of hours on the water.
deadeye32. reply :
I love this topic of athlete vs. athletic. If you are a professional at any game that involves physical endurance, stamina, or mental toughness, I would consider that person to be an athlete. Now are they athletic? Not nessesarily. I think an athletic person could excel at just about anything they set out to do. JMO
roadwarrior reply :
QuoteAnyone can become a "good" fisherman, but it requires a natural talent and drive to become a "pro"
I think this statement covers a lot of ground and is applicable to other
activities. Practice, time on the water and desire certainly improve an
anglers success, but even dedicated training under another professional
will not result in becoming a successful pro. "Natural talent" is as much
a part of professional fishing as it is for any other sport.
8-)
Redhed reply :
what really chaps my hide is when you fish with a guy ( in my case my cousin) and its the first year you two really fish together on a boat together. he caught a lot of big bass compared to me. my reason is bc i tried different things that i didnt do in years before (like more crankbaiting and etc) and so therefore i caught less big fish and really it was the worst year of lake fishing i have ever had and perhaps his best..
well his head is very swollen. dont get me wrong he is a good fisherman and very persistant but doesnt it drive you nuts when someone has a good fishing season and then claims themelves as a pro fisher man?. i mean i cant tell him nothing without him throwing that back in my face. he toots his horn and toots it loud. i kinda hope he has a bad year just to deflate that swollen head. he is the same with deer hunting. i guess he has to toot his horn in order to boost his morale or something. but its extremely annoying >
slonezp reply :
Firstly I belive it takes a certain mindset. If you look at any successful athelete, what makes them successful is the desire, drive, and determination to be the best. Football players practicing 5 days a week all day long for 4 months and keeping in shape in the off season, baseball players playing ball almost every day 6 months of the year etc. Fishermen use rods, reels, tackle,and boats as their tools to reach their goals the same way a professional athelete uses his physical atributes to reach theirs. If you have the mindset to be out on the water training every chance you can during good and bad weather conditions. The ability to learn and retain information about baits, patterns, structure etc. Patience to learn the differences in fishing shallow water, deep water, river systems, clear water, stained, etc. Commitment to the sport. If you have all these atributes then the only thing that will hold you back is yourself. My son used to tell me the reason I caught more and bigger fish than he did was because I had the front of the boat. These last 2 years things have changed, because he has changed. He began paying attention to what I've been doing, gained a little more patience and opened his mind up a little. We fish in 2 tournament trails in the Chicago area together and he is becoming an exceptional fisherman. He has a competitive spirit which has helped us place better every year the last 3 years. Me, I just love to fish.
As far as supporting a family I would probably become a professional fisherman first. You will need to focus on the sport and it may make your relationship suffer.
Redhed reply :
QuoteFirstly I belive it takes a certain mindset. If you look at any successful athelete, what makes them successful is the desire, drive, and determination to be the best. Football players practicing 5 days a week all day long for 4 months and keeping in shape in the off season, baseball players playing ball almost every day 6 months of the year etc. Fishermen use rods, reels, tackle,and boats as their tools to reach their goals the same way a professional athelete uses his physical atributes to reach theirs. If you have the mindset to be out on the water training every chance you can during good and bad weather conditions. The ability to learn and retain information about baits, patterns, structure etc. Patience to learn the differences in fishing shallow water, deep water, river systems, clear water, stained, etc. Commitment to the sport. If you have all these atributes then the only thing that will hold you back is yourself. My son used to tell me the reason I caught more and bigger fish than he did was because I had the front of the boat. These last 2 years things have changed, because he has changed. He began paying attention to what I've been doing, gained a little more patience and opened his mind up a little. We fish in 2 tournament trails in the Chicago area together and he is becoming an exceptional fisherman. He has a competitive spirit which has helped us place better every year the last 3 years. Me, I just love to fish.As far as supporting a family I would probably become a professional fisherman first. You will need to focus on the sport and it may make your relationship suffer.
thats awesome bud! congrats to you and your son. keep in mind you set the example and he is falling in line, great job
stratos201 reply :
I have always thought if I could spend as much time on the water as the Pros that I could compete with them, but in fishing more and more I think it is a lot mental and natural ability. I had a good friend who could catch and figure out what to do on any lake to catch fish and he spent no more time on the water than I did. I fish tornaments with my son(started at age 8) and because I have made him think more about what he is doing instead of just following what others do he has became an excellant fisherman and loves to beat dear old dad(which he does alot now). I think making him use his mind as well as ability has helped him (he also does well in draw tournaments and beats out his boater alot) So in my opinion not only do you need the time on the water you need some natural talent and the mental makeup to make it as a Pro fisherman.I also feel Pro fishermen are athletes also.
etommy28 reply :
Personally I feel it is 80 percent learned and 15 pure natural talent and 5 percent luck. just my thoughts.
Tokyo Tony reply :
In my opinion, the most successful pro anglers are the smartest, most athletic, and most hard-working individuals amongst the competition, just as with any other activity. Someone with a room-temperature IQ who throws like a girl has no chance at becoming a pro bass fisherman.
On any given day, as in poker, luck is a factor. But in the long run, there's no such thing as luck - everyone gets the same cards, so to speak, in the long run. The more intelligent and learned anglers constantly put themselves in position to get lucky, but that requires skill. I love the quote by Ben Hogan, I believe: "The more I practice, the luckier I get." :-)
farmpond1 reply :
There are a lot of people who, with enough persistance and hard work, can become pretty good fishermen-perhaps even outstanding fishermen. But there is something not quite tangible which separates the best fishermen from the rest of us. They just know how to put it all together in ways where most of us are still scratching our heads (or are at least 2 steps behind). This isn't to say everyone who has this "genius" will become a "pro." It still requires a lot of work and a love for the game.
As to how athletic a person has to be...Well, if endurance is a sign of athleticism, than pro tournament fishermen must be athletes. I'm tuckered out even after a modest day of fishing in nice weather.
ww2farmer reply :
At the pro level most all of the anglers "have it", the "it" beeing something I don't think a single one of us could type out and describe. Sure some skills are learned, mainly the mechanics, but the instincts and mental awarness of what's going on around you and knowing when and where to apply your "learned" talents is part of what having "it" is all about.
Go to any local tournament, there will always be a few guys with "it" as well. Most will be clueless. It's far easier to spot the clueless guys.
The ones who always blame something other than themselves for poor results, the ones who always ask the wrong questions. rather than ask when/where/why, they are fixated on things like lure color, and running over over they lake after 10mins of not getting bit.
MitchIsFishin reply :
x10 what Catt & ww2farmer said. Just MHO.
SuskyDude reply :
I feel although some have a knack for it, the vast majority of fishing is learned.
Oh, and and anglers as athletes? :
Lets not get carried away.
I know guys who have the "endurance" to fish all day, but fall down wheezing after running ten yards. That ain't no athlete. If you can excell at your sport as you smoke a cigarette and drink a beer, I've got a hard time calling that sport "athletic." ;D
I really feel that the "endurance" that is required to fish all day is more mental than physical.
thetr20one reply :
"Anyone can cook but, only the fearless can be great" Chef Gusteau Ratatouille.
I had a whole story wrote out and the page expired so I will try and shorten it up. IMHO it takes more than natural talent and learned talent. Passion for what you are doing and patience also is huge. I have always been able to cast well and have spent countless hours on the water. With the exception of last year I have spent every spare moment of the last 20 years on the water. Like ww2farmer says some people just have "it". I feel I do and it took natural talent, learned talent, passion, patience and time to get "it". I played baseball,soccer and wrestled but not one of them had me like bass fishing. And once I got into tourneys it also filled my competitive nature.
Manigotapee reply :
QuoteI love this topic of athlete vs. athletic. If you are a professional at any game that involves physical endurance, stamina, or mental toughness, I would consider that person to be an athlete. Now are they athletic? Not nessesarily. I think an athletic person could excel at just about anything they set out to do. JMO
Couldn't have said it better myself.....
mase088 reply :
I think the keys to becoming a pro in this sport is patience, knowledge, money, luck, and most importantly PRACTICE. I think that it requires a lot more determination and natural talent to become a pro in most other sports such as football. It takes a great deal of determination to put yourself in pain day in and day out while working out and practicing, getting injured and the like. You will definitely be more motivated to go back out and fish after placing bad in a tournament then you will to play football again after having a losing season. You got to have some real determination to do that.
But like I said, the most important thing I think is practice. Your mind is not limited quite like your body. You may never be 6'3" 240 lbs and bench press 550 regardless of how hard you try, but you can learn just about everything there is to know through research and practice.
FishingPirate reply :
This might have been said but: You HAVE to be able to get in the "zone." Iaconelli mentions this in his book. He says something along the lines of when he's in the zone, things happen. I believe in that 100%.
princecraft papa reply :
practice, practice, practice..& then practice some more,practice untill you develope a level of confidence that will allow you to "will" the fish into the boat!
"practoce...practice....are we talking about practoce?"
-HAWK- reply :
QuoteThis might have been said but: You HAVE to be able to get in the "zone." Iaconelli mentions this in his book. He says something along the lines of when he's in the zone, things happen. I believe in that 100%.
This is very true. The ability to enter a Focused Zone, and block out everything else plays a large part in a fisherman's success. Some people have this trait, some people dont. But then you also have the Practice/ Experience aspect. There is no Natural Ability to substitue for hardcore effort put into learning the fish out on the lake for hours and hours. I would say it's 50/50
Eddie Munster reply :
QuoteQuoteBowlers, golfers, fishermen, etc...may have athletic looking bodies but they're not athletesTiger Woods, Gregg Norman, Jack Nicklaus aren't athletes, just to name a few? Nicklaus played college basketball before he turned to golf, Norman a surfer, and Tiger Woods would probably excel at most sports. I doubt that most pro fisherman could even walk 18 holes 4 days in a row on hilly courses. Before and after their rounds they are hitting tons of balls and most work out an hour or 2 a day. You bet they are athletes.
I went back and highlighted in red what I posted. Just because they have an atheletic body does not make the activity they're doing atheletic or them an athelete. My wife has several friends who work out yet don't work outside the home. Are they stay at home atheletes? Cooking and doing laundry the next Pro Series we'll see on ESPN? ;D
The problem is that some people think golf, bowling, fishing, etc are sports; they're not. If you can be OBESE and still be the best at something, it's not a sport and the participants (regardless of whether they are in shape or not) are NOT atheletes. Craig Stadler, Phil Mickelson, etc have won majors while being way out of shape.
Catt reply :
One can practice the techniques all they want for as long as they want and still not be productive on a consistent level.
Bass fishing at the next level takes
An understanding of the behavior of the prey the bass are feeding on
An understanding of the behavior of the bass itself
An understanding of a constantly environment in which the bass and prey live.
An understanding of structure, breaks, breaks lines & how bass and their prey relate to them.
The above 4 elements is where the weekend warrior stops
Money has nothing to do with it; it does not take a $45,000 bass boat or $1,500 rod & reel combos to understand the 4 key elements listed above.
Being listed in the annals of Bass Master or FLW is also not a requirement
I Love BassResource reply :
QuoteOne can practice the techniques all they want for as long as they want and still not be productive on a consistent level.Bass fishing at the next level takes
An understanding of the behavior of the prey the bass are feeding on
An understanding of the behavior of the bass itself
An understanding of a constantly environment in which the bass and prey live.
An understanding of structure, breaks, breaks lines & how bass and their prey relate to them.
The above 4 elements is where the weekend warrior stops
Money has nothing to do with it; it does not take a $45,000 bass boat or $1,500 rod & reel combos to understand the 4 key elements listed above.
Being listed in the annals of Bass Master or FLW is also not a requirement
Spot on... but
"Being listed in the annals of Bass Master or FLW is also not a requirement "
IMHO
I think those people(most) listed in FLW/BASS, meet the criteria you've listed above. So again imho, they a reflect the very best anglers in our sport.
I like to read posts about making specific adjustments.. e.g. "match the hatch", "color", "bait/blade size", "boat positioning", etc....
A vast majority of what I would consider "great" anglers, will voice that doing some of the above isn't a real issue in their bass fishing process.
I think what sets most pro's apart from "great" anglers, is their ability to make those micro adjustments to their presentation or pattern. Those small adjustments may not make or break an outing, but they typically translate into pounds, ounces, an extra fish, a kicker, etc..
Having the knowledge to make those minor adjustments on they fly can account for an 18lb bag instead of your local pro's 17lb bag.
Most of what we do to trick a fish is done through learning an array of techniques. With practice and repetition, we fine tune those techniques so that we now become competent, maybe even competitive on a higher level.
I believe the very best anglers in the world are those who have at least some natural talent, but more importantly its those who never stop refining their abilities, understanding, and techniques used in relation to fish and fishing.
As far as "true" athletes...
IMHO this could get beat to death as the definition of an athlete doesn't always have to translate into an athletic individual. Just look at Mark Davis, the dude is a major stick, but I doubt he could run the length of a football field.
WRB reply :
Just about anyone with an interest in bass fishing can become a good bass fishermen with help from a good mentor.
Few good bass fishermen can become a professional bass fishermen and earn his/her living from bass fishing. Fishing talent doesn't equal good marketing skills and the talent to promote yourself or products.
The most natural talented bass pro I know is Aaron Martens. Aaron is also very shy, a poor speaker and self promoter. Aaron has worked very hard to overcome his handicaps, his bass fishing skills are excellent.
Both Don Iovino and Dee Thomas are a contrast to Aaron in natural skills and physical ability. Don and Dee are both smart, good self promoters and marketers that tuned a specific bass fishing skill to become well known professionals in our sport. It is a stretch to consider Don or Dee athletes; however 3 day tournament aren't easy, even for the most fit and both of these men have done that for decades.
Bass fishing skills can be taught, your physical skills, personality and drive to succeed, have limitations that may require training to become a successful bass fishermen.
WRB
done reply :
And to add the posts here on ability and having passion for the sport. You need one other crucial "skill", and that us work ethic.
I know of a lot of folks who are great at music, programming, art, sports, etc who have a passion and tons of ability. They fail miserably when they realize that even in a job you LOVE to do, there are still parts to it that you have to work and do things that may not be your favorite.
I had a relative who is an awesome musician, when he played in front of a crowd he owned them. However, his career as a musician never came off the ground because when he needed to go to clubs and get on the lineup, call promoters, pay bills, practice over and over and over again, he would not do it cause he did not like it.
I can imagine if we got a pro on this discussion they would throw up a dozen things about pro-fishing that would fall into that category. IMO, that is one of the most critical areas in any profession.
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