I'm curious what you guys have confidence in that most people don't. For example, I love swimming a football jig with a skirted dt grub. I love it and it works, but most people believe you can only fish a football head on the bottom around rocks.
So what do you do that works despite conventional bass fishing wisdom? Is there a winter technique that you use all year? Or a lure that is intended for a specific application but you use it for something else?
I am not good at it, but the technique I think is the most underrated is jigging spoons.
I have had "Luck" with the FNF technique for smallmouth bass in the summer, which I use hardcore in the winter. And this was fishing rock wall drop offs on the river, so I would like to call it luck. But it still suits me well when i fish in the creeks i wade around here for big smallies.
I mostly fish single and double colorado blade spinnerbaits. No matter what the conditions are. Most people I know throw tandem willow or colo/will. I doubt it's underrated, but around here it's not the norm.
I swim 2" sections of senko style baits (Trick Sticks, Dingers, etc.) on 1/8 or 1/4oz jigheads. They dart around like little minnows. A good way to get more mileage out of torn up baits.
Here is one I learned form a guide in Texas on Choke Canyon. Insert a nail weight in the fat end of a Zoom Trick Worm. TexPose a 3/0 EWG hook inserting 3/8 down from the thin end, cast and drag it. We called it the Tricky Dick. The worm stands on end and the 3/8 portion on the top hangs limp. Do not know what it is suppose to represent but caught a bunch with the largest at 7.5 lbs. Works great.
One thing I like to do that my buddies laugh at me for is butting jig rattles on my T-rig hook before putting on whichever plastic it is that I'm using at the time.
QuoteHere is one I learned form a guide in Texas on Choke Canyon. Insert a nail weight in the fat end of a Zoom Trick Worm. TexPose a 3/0 EWG hook inserting 3/8 down from the thin end, cast and drag it. We called it the Tricky Dick. The worm stands on end and the 3/8 portion on the top hangs limp. Do not know what it is suppose to represent but caught a bunch with the largest at 7.5 lbs. Works great.
Sorry to steal this thread.A 7.5 is a good fish, but I am surprised that was the biggest you guys caught out of choke. This year they were pulling 12's 13's 14's and I think a couple of 15's up pretty regularly.
QuoteI swim 2" sections of senko style baits (Trick Sticks, Dingers, etc.) on 1/8 or 1/4oz jigheads. They dart around like little minnows. A good way to get more mileage out of torn up baits.
Now that is something I've never heard of.
QuoteOne thing I like to do that my buddies laugh at me for is butting jig rattles on my T-rig hook before putting on whichever plastic it is that I'm using at the time.
How do you attach them?
I sink my frogs to the bottom. I rarely use them on topwater. I believe I do what is called 'dead-sticking' with them. Leave them sit and move them along a few feet at a time every so often while I'm working other baits.
QuoteQuoteHere is one I learned form a guide in Texas on Choke Canyon. Insert a nail weight in the fat end of a Zoom Trick Worm. TexPose a 3/0 EWG hook inserting 3/8 down from the thin end, cast and drag it. We called it the Tricky Dick. The worm stands on end and the 3/8 portion on the top hangs limp. Do not know what it is suppose to represent but caught a bunch with the largest at 7.5 lbs. Works great.Sorry to steal this thread.A 7.5 is a good fish, but I am surprised that was the biggest you guys caught out of choke. This year they were pulling 12's 13's 14's and I think a couple of 15's up pretty regularly.
Sorry 9lbs 2oz was the biggest boated, Lost 3 that looked to be double digits. Us Northern Boys were just not use to having bigguns jump so much at the boat. Unfortnately these were on crankbaits, d**n treble hooks.
To keep with the title of the thread the single most underrated method I can think of is simply putting a nail in the back of senko type baits. People are so hung up on fishing that thing weightless, but thats okay I catch more fish doing something that they aren't.
After watching my uncle clean my clock with a spoon two week ago, I am going to give it a whirl.
IMO the most under rated technique is just simply swimming a grub on a jighead. Its so simple that most people don't want to try it. I was at Table Rock in late May and I was killin em on that technique. 4 lb smallies all the way down to dinks. It just catches fish.
QuoteIMO the most under rated technique is just simply swimming a grub on a jighead. Its so simple that most people don't want to try it. I was at Table Rock in late May and I was killin em on that technique. 4 lb smallies all the way down to dinks. It just catches fish.
That's a walleye technique,believe it or not for around here.Smallmouths like em' too.
Float n Fly is under rated around here.I have yet to see it done or used.
QuoteIMO the most under rated technique is just simply swimming a grub on a jighead. Its so simple that most people don't want to try it. I was at Table Rock in late May and I was killin em on that technique. 4 lb smallies all the way down to dinks. It just catches fish.
Yeah man, that's a classic for sure. That's definitely one of those "If you could have only one bait" deals.
QuoteIMO the most under rated technique is just simply swimming a grub on a jighead. Its so simple that most people don't want to try it. I was at Table Rock in late May and I was killin em on that technique. 4 lb smallies all the way down to dinks. It just catches fish.
I agree, friend of mine does this and kills them with it... this and topwater rapalas and inline spinners are ALL he fishes.
Something I always do is jig a spoon at dusk/dawn before I work my topwaters.
My favorite technique is probably not that unheard of but I love it. I just got into creature baits hardcore and my favorite technique with them is to throw a kriet kreature (my favorite lure) with no weight and rather than let it sink or dead stick i run it back to me like a buzzbait. Not glamorous I know but most people I know simply pitch the thing in cover or dead stick it. This catches bass and aids in my lack of patience. I also like to let a frog sink like the other guy - especially a white one in semi clear water - you miss a lot less fish when you see the thing disappear a half second before you feel the bite. I'm also gonna need a picture of the tricky dick rig or whatever it's called - sounds cool.
Pre-rigged worm.
Yeah, y 'all seen those, them 5-6" straight worms with 3 small hooks, a bead and a propeller.
100% deadly
QuoteI am not good at it, but the technique I think is the most underrated is jigging spoons.
I desperately needed my jigging spoons yesterday and they weren't in the boat.
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Senko's
4 inch hand poured worm on an Original Charlie Brewer Slider Head.
Pitching a 1/2oz Rat-L-Trap into pockets and breaks of cattails, reeds, grass etc!
This may surprise some, I make a point of one or 2 trips a season
LIVE BAIT FISHING
night crawlers
shiners/minnows
craw fish
once in a while, it is fun and highly effective
8-)
Half netbait saltlick (senko), rigged through the nose with a small gamakatsu octopus hook. Jerk the ever livin out of it with a steady retrieve. my partner and I call it , "Stanky Leg."
inline spinnerbaits and spoons.
QuoteHalf netbait saltlick (senko), rigged through the nose with a small gamakatsu octopus hook. Jerk the ever livin out of it with a steady retrieve. my partner and I call it , "Stanky Leg."
Hahaha if I try that its just gonna make me laugh now.
zara spook jr. probably just as good as the sammy
QuotePitching a 1/2oz Rat-L-Trap into pockets and breaks of cattails, reeds, grass etc!
This is interesting. I have never tried pitching/flipping a lipless crank, but it makes total sense. Although I'm sure you have to clean the trebles off a lot. I'm def. gonna try this.
Quoteinline spinnerbaits and spoons.
+ Texas Rigged Craw Worms
QuoteQuotePitching a 1/2oz Rat-L-Trap into pockets and breaks of cattails, reeds, grass etc!This is interesting. I have never tried pitching/flipping a lipless crank, but it makes total sense. Although I'm sure you have to clean the trebles off a lot. I'm def. gonna try this.
Given the correct circumstances it can be deadly.Spoons,chatterbaits,and spinnerbaits can be used in the same manner. If the cover conditions allow then do it where everyones else is chucking plastic. 8-)
QuoteQuotePitching a 1/2oz Rat-L-Trap into pockets and breaks of cattails, reeds, grass etc!This is interesting. I have never tried pitching/flipping a lipless crank, but it makes total sense. Although I'm sure you have to clean the trebles off a lot. I'm def. gonna try this.
This one I use too. I just call it rippin' a lipless. Pitched, close to vertical, and ripped up through vegetation pockets and edges.
This 19er was caught this way, along with a bunch of others. See the stuff it came from? Gotta be pretty close to vertical for that.
I also have used the broken worm chunk for a grub. Like he said, "It just catches fish".
In-lines are real fish catchers too.
QuoteI am not good at it, but the technique I think is the most underrated is jigging spoons.
Target lure/ technique for this year's smallmouth season.
8-)
dunno why, but alot of people seem to only throw jerkbaits during early spring....It mimics baitfish better than just about any technique, but people seem to put them away for the year come spawn time.
QuoteThis may surprise some, I make a point of one or 2 trips a seasonLIVE BAIT FISHING
night crawlers
shiners/minnows
craw fish
once in a while, it is fun and highly effective
8-)
how do you do on live bait? I have fished live bait succesfully in other areas, but on my lakes i've never caught a bass on live bait. 10 seconds after the bait hits the water there's either a perch or a sunny on the line.
I don't know if this qualifies, but I think the most underrated is patience and slowing down when the bite is slow. I see guys burning spinnerbaits and topwater, and catch nothing. Moving from spot to spot like they're in a race. Slow it down, have some patience, and the fish will come!
My partner tied on a little George. I laughed. we had 4 fish and needed a 5th. In 10 minutes he landed a 3.5 lber. We took second just 2 oz from a win.
I witnessed him on numerous occasions catch fish on that crazy thing. It is especially good when the fish start schooling in the fall. I now have couple but I have not had the same luck. I attribute this to his lil George being a 70's model and mine being brand new :-/
note the quote
dare i say it but in florida i would have to say finesse fishing everyone down here thinks big baits get big fish - not true i was wishing a tournamnt on west lake toho i won a 6am-1pm with 18.4lbs useing a 4 inch zoom finesse worm fish slow as possible and i caught my limit the kid i was fishing with was throwing a crankbait and a 1 oz jig and caught 4 fish that weighted 9lbs something and got 3th place every one said it was tough fishing and i caught 9 and people thing big and fast is good but small and slow is way better
^ Whew! It must take a lot of breath to say that all at once
^LOL.
^^ punctuation is overrated...
Johnson spoon with a trailer fished around heavy vegetation.
Swimming a t-rigged Craw and/or swimming a jig (any jig to me is a swimming jig) with a Paca Chunk.
When I want a break from worms one of these always produce.
Tailspins. Cast a mile and cover a ton of water.
Wave Worm Ticki Bamboo Stick either on a unweighted hook or a weighted hook.
They are fat, heavy and cast well. Deadsticking with a weighted or unweighted hook can be very productive.
QuoteQuoteThis may surprise some, I make a point of one or 2 trips a seasonLIVE BAIT FISHING
night crawlers
shiners/minnows
craw fish
once in a while, it is fun and highly effective
8-)
how do you do on live bait? I have fished live bait succesfully in other areas, but on my lakes i've never caught a bass on live bait. 10 seconds after the bait hits the water there's either a perch or a sunny on the line.
Using a bigger hook should keep the little fish from being hooked, althought they can still steal your bait. Especially when you are fishing with live worms. A live 5-7" baitfish shouldn't get many takers from perch/bluegill/etc.
QuotePre-rigged worm.Yeah, y 'all seen those, them 5-6" straight worms with 3 small hooks, a bead and a propeller.
100% deadly
Right you are, Raul !
The Worm, Kelly's Plow Jockey, K & E Bass Stopper, to name
a few. Always make sure to tie on a quality ball bearing swivel
18-24" ahead of your worm.
BB
Curly-Tail Grub
I believe the Curly-Tail Grub is grossly under-exploited as a Big-Bass lure (available to 6" long).
All fish luv'em to death: smallmouth, largemouth, pike, pickerel & panfish
Johnson Spoon
Another overlooked lure is the Johnson Spoon. The J-spoon goes where buzzbaits & spinnerbaits bog-down.
This year for us, the J-spoon produced a higher average weight than swimbaits.
Roger
Blade baits, i.e. silver buddies and heddon sonars. Considered a winter lure for vertical jigging but works great as a cast and reel bait as well. One of the best baits i've used for extra heavy current like nears lock systems. Plus they catch anything that swims. Hopkins type spoons work similarly.
small 1/8oz single spin spinnerbaits, maybe not the most underated but not a lot of guys fish 'em and they've pulled me out of some tough spots
QuoteBlade baits, i.e. silver buddies and heddon sonars. Considered a winter lure for vertical jigging but works great as a cast and reel bait as well. One of the best baits i've used for extra heavy current like nears lock systems. Plus they catch anything that swims. Hopkins type spoons work similarly.
Funny you should mention that. A guy I was fishin' with caught a 10lb carp on one o those things. They catch ANYTHING!!!!!
I love the Stanley floating Ribbit. Swim them in the slop, stop in a hole twitch, then back over the slop, buzz the small channels. We just started to use them and all I can say is WOW!
The old original beetle-spin. It will keep you from being skunked.
I am a huge Paca Craw Fan but sometimes I use a bait I think is better (depending on the situation)
It's called a Bass Pro Shops "Speed-O-Craw"
Same Idea as Paca, but its not hollow-bodied. its flat sided and seems to slip throw cover a little better. I also like burying the hook in it. The Legs always run perfect too
Came in second place in a tournament throwing this bait alone
try fishing a wally world spinning combo upside down,
with a red and white bobber, and a dead sun-cooked earth worm.
cast it out like a fool, and retrieve it rapidly after every cast like a crank bait.
do this for about 10 min, and then proceed to hook and land a 8-9 lb bass!!!!!!!!!!
******** i witnessed this exact occurrence about 2 weeks ago here in orlando, what a slap in the face!!!!!!! ********
so for underrated techniques,
there you go.
and its proven,
trust me......
i saw it happen,
and im still > and :-? ..........
Try putting a nail in an old monster 10incher plus.Tell me about that movwe, you,ll be surprized that the fish will tear it up, great for finicky fish that feel the sinker.
Quotetry fishing a wally world spinning combo upside down,with a red and white bobber, and a dead sun-cooked earth worm.
cast it out like a fool, and retrieve it rapidly after every cast like a crank bait.
do this for about 10 min, and then proceed to hook and land a 8-9 lb bass!!!!!!!!!!
******** i witnessed this exact occurrence about 2 weeks ago here in orlando, what a slap in the face!!!!!!! ********
so for underrated techniques,
there you go.
and its proven,
trust me......
i saw it happen,
and im still > and :-? ..........
;D ;D I believe you. Years ago we were fishing a small pond out of my boat. We were not getting anything. One of those days when you throw everything you have.
There's a kid and his dad on the bank. The kid kept asking if he could put a piece of hot dog on his line and the old man kept saying "No". This went on for an hour until dad caved in just to shut the kid up.
You know how this ends. My buddy and I packed up and called it a day.
I am surprised that no one has mentioned the Jitterbug. It is still one of the most effective top water baits there is.
QuoteI am surprised that no one has mentioned the Jitterbug. It is still one of the most effective top water baits there is.
True, but I don't think it's underrated - doesn't everyone have at least one in their box?
QuoteQuoteI am surprised that no one has mentioned the Jitterbug. It is still one of the most effective top water baits there is.True, but I don't think it's underrated - doesn't everyone have at least one in their box?
There are many here who use them, yours included. My favorite top water bait>>5/8 ounce black Jitterbug 8-)
Hey Buddy!
How 'bout a GYCB Senko on a Flooger?
(No bites this weekend, seriously.)
bilgerat.....
sometimes the straight up craziest $hi* works. and by pure luck..... or maybe not???? i dont know,
but i do know that it will annoy the crap out of me for some time to come!!!!
Hopkins Shorty Spoon.
Pink or Chartreuse 3/4 oz Rooster Tails, in slightly stained water. (Using erratic stop & go retrieval).
Good lucks to you in catching the "BIG KAHUNA!"