One of my biggest pet peeves on the water is getting crowded or cut off, especially when there's plenty of room to avoid doing so and even more so when I've found the fish and someone else sees it and crowds in. I was on one of the local lakes last week that's about 400 acres. It was me and one other boat on the entire lake, the other boat was fishing a point a couple hundred yards away when I pulled onto one of my favorite late season spots on the lake and immediately started catching them on a shakyhead and jig. After I'd put about 15 in the boat it must have been more than he could take as the guy pulled his trolling motor, motored over, and stopped about 20 yards off the front of my boat and dropped his trolling motor again and started fishing. At a couple different points his big motor was barely more than a rods length from the front of my boat. Thankfully I saw him coming and was able to box him out from the better portions of this very small area. I managed to milk several more fish off the spot before I got tired of fishing so close to someone else, had other spots I wanted to try anyways. I figured since he didn't mind sharing my spot he wouldn't mind me taking a picture of him doing it For a point of reference the point directly to the 12 o'clock of my trolling motor is about 50 yards away. I know it's happened to everyone, anyone else want to vent about their run in with less than courteous people on the water?
Rude fisherman? Say it isn't so.
Seriously, I consider that to be more inconsiderate than some juvenile jet skiers, who in a lake or pond a mile or more wide, have to pass within a hundred feet of someone fishing along the shore.
I had that happen this past Sunday while fishing with my son. We were the only boat on a similar sized lake. Another guy put his boat in and scooted about 50 yards or less away for where we were fishing. Not to mention he and his lady promptly lit cigarettes killing my fresh cool air I was enjoying.
I had it happen recently when I was bank fishing, was fishing across a small cove and this jerk came sliding down the bank and proceed to fish right where I was casting. So I decided it was time to practice casting. Wish I would have had a practice plug to tie on I might have gotten even a little bit closer.
He then climbed back up the bank and came over to where I was fishing and crawled under the fallen tree I was standing by right behind me. When he slid down the bank I was wishing he had fallen in.
Then there was the guy who was to lazy to walk to he drove and parked right in front of a sign that said 'Parking in lots only" when his buddy said something about where he parked he told his buddy to STFU and he could park where ever he wanted. I believe one of those fellows with a badge came by and explained to him what the sign meant.
I will guess that these are the same people that don't bring their mothers with them to clean up after them.
I guess the only way around this is to buy enough land and then put in your own private lake. To many idiots in the world and you can't fix stupid.
My story. Fishing a tournament, my first spot didnt work out so I went to plan B. I had an underwater drop off located in the middle of nowhere. It was 9 o'clock, two hours had past and nobody fishing there. The lake was fairly new and people just did not know about this spot..I marked it with a pair of marker buoys about 50 yards apart, then proceeded to fish it. Caught two keepers right off. A competitors boat comes along and starts fishing right on top of one buoy. Shortly another competitors boat spots the other buoy and started fishing it. These boats didnt plan on fishing there , they spotted me and the buoys and just moved in. Similar events happened to me often. Im an open water specialist and people would recognize my boat and move in..
I don't mind sharing an area if the other party is polite and asks if it's okay. It's the guys who just roll up and act like they own the lake that get on my nerves, and I will say something to them when that happens. Jet skiers are another story all together. We had several this Summer that stopped right by our marker buoys and tried to pick them up. One of the guys acted like he didn't hear us yelling at him until I bounced a blade bait off the front of his ski. The guy I was fishing with said nice cast. I told him it wasn't that nice, I was aiming for the rider, not the jet ski.
That sucks guys. Sorry to hear about all the morons out there. Most people around my lake are pretty courteous and respect your space.
Don't think for one minute that if a boat pulls too close, that I won't land my lure right on the deck of their boat.
I don't like bait fisherman and I despise bait fishermen with a castnet, I usually just leave and fish another area, really not a big deal. All my boat fishing is in the ocean, don't think there are not a lot of boats but crowding really isn't an issue, no real problem arises, except an isolate incident on occasion. Shore fishing, whether it's at the ocean, ICW or freshwater, I always stop by and shoot the crap for a while. There was a situation that really po' ed me, at one time I was fishing quite a bit with a Hall of Fame fisherman, he was an authority on freshwater stripers, even autographed his book for me. Granted when it came fishing off the beach, he was a bit lacking even though he was born and raised on he Jersey coast. Each and every time I out fished him, several times as I had a fish on he was casting right over me before my fish was landed, I'm talking 10 and 15# jack crevelles that are swimming all over the place. I said to the guy, "gimme some room for crying out loud, as a Hall of Famer you should know better". Last time I spoke to him, glad to say he moved back to Tennessee.
People are people and you are not going to change their behavior.
Courtsey on the water is always expected and appreciated. However, with that said, some people believe that there are no laws to stop anyone from fishing anywhere when they want.
Tournament and bass club tournament rules allow a specific distance between anglers (usually 50 yards) but this practice is not utilized by others.
You can take the high road and move on, giving you indigestion, or play rough and make the other guy miserable. If you decide to attack be watchful of others on the water you do not know for there are people out there with weapons or who are looking for a physical altercation.
The experiences above are not unusual and occur across our country and the world when bass fishing. I know of a very good tournament bass fisherman who had his father run to his spots and guard them until the son arrived to fish them. The father had a shotgun in plain sight on the deck of his bass boat and the father would come within inches from other bass fisherman to run them off the site.
The problem can easily escalate and with more and more guys carrying weapons on their bass boats we can expect a serious problem to develop in the future somewhere in America.
On 11/17/2012 at 5:01 PM, TNBassin said:Don't think for one minute that if a boat pulls too close, that I won't land my lure right on the deck of their boat.
In my younger days I hooked a guy on a jet ski with a Rat-l-trap. I am pretty lucky I didn't get an aggravated assault charge for it. I have a lot less tick and vinegar these days and just ignore them or leave.
It is all too common a problem. I've experienced this where a guy and, presumably his father or g'pa in the back. This was on a nearly 300 acre reservoir. Buddy and I were fishing the docks and this dude, who arrived after us, decides he wants to as well. So he motors inbetween us, within 15 yards of me, and about 8 of my buddy.
I caught a lovely 3lber right in front of them, then moved to the other side. They decided to follow me. The young doofus thinks he owns the spot even though I was there for nearly 10 minutes already, and casts within feet of my yak. I could almost feel the splash of his bait. I kept giving them the stare of death hoping it would work, but the dummy returned stare. Finally I looked at them and said "ever heard of fishing etiquette?!" The kid mumbled something, I said I was there first, blah blah, and I paddled off.
Idiots are out there. Since then my buddy has experienced very similar rudeness from other guys. BUT!! There are PLENTY of decent fishermen out there, but it is frustrating to encounter the few jerks.
Some guys on another forum suggested I carry a nice 2oz weight and cast it over at them... LOL. But then, like Sam said, you never know what kind of people you're dealing with.
And my wife is a nurse who deals with psych patients sometimes. She told me of research that suggests we'd be very surprised how many people in "normal" life have psychoses, i.e., significant mental imbalances, not just the "I'm on antidepressants" kind. A lot of the people who come in to the hospital ER for quick mental "fixes" over breakdowns, etc., are everyday people you'd see at the mall, on the road, etc., but have these mental issues. They may not be taking their drugs, or such, and have "episodes".
Point of it all is to confirm/add to Sam's comment that you never know what kind of person/people you're dealing with. Are they just rude, or have other issues which would make them snap if you confronted them.
My wife is urging me to take the "shut up and move on" approach. And even though I'd rather throw a few choice words back at the dudes, I am seeing the wisdom of her counsel more and more to take this stance.
My rudest fisherman encounter took place last year on Lake Okeechobee while bass fishing. I had what I believe was a guide with a client idle slowly about 5 yards in the front of my boat within casting range and then he proceeded to put his trolling motor down about another 50 yards down the line I was fishing. I fished for a little bit and it ate away at me so bad that I returned the favor, the guy didn't seem to mind, so I think he had no clue or didn't think it was rude since it was idle speed, but in 3 foot of water targeting spawners it MATTERS. Needless to say, the lesson I learned was to just ignore it and move, since it is not worth ruining a day on the lake.
On 11/17/2012 at 9:55 PM, DarrenM said:And my wife is a nurse who deals with psych patients sometimes. She told me of research that suggests we'd be very surprised how many people in "normal" life have psychoses, i.e., significant mental imbalances, not just the "I'm on antidepressants" kind. A lot of the people who come in to the hospital ER for quick mental "fixes" over breakdowns, etc., are everyday people you'd see at the mall, on the road, etc., but have these mental issues. They may not be taking their drugs, or such, and have "episodes".
This describes my brother, LOL. I have never seen him be an offender since he was raised right, I guess, but if you cross him then you better watch OUT. I remember "an episode" where a rude fisherman crossed him and it ended up with the offenders' rods thrown over board, a boat boarding, and an a__ kicking, those where the days, if this would have happened in today's time he would have ended up being in jail. To say he has a short fuse is ridiculous, his fuse is equivalent to lighting a flame near an m80 and having it explode, he has calmed down considerably since, but In the end you never know who you are dealing with, so its best to avoid confrontation.
Ive had crappie tisherman pull right into a tree i was fishing and tie off to it..LOL Crappie fishermen are a little bit off.
"My wife is urging me to take the "shut up and move on" approach. And even though I'd rather throw a few choice words back at the dudes, I am seeing the wisdom of her counsel more and more to take this stance."
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It happens a lot during the unofficial trout season back home. Starting in January til first of April several streams and lakes are stocked with rainbows. There are several ppl who literally follow the stock truck, dnr provides daily updates on what stream or lake was stocked. The next day it is literally elbow to elbow on the more popular creeks. It is nothing to be fishing a spot have other ppl roll in and try to take over. Typically these ppl throw in one or two spots and move on. Been my experience that ppl who try to take over don't have what it takes to stick it out and fish, I give them a few minutes and typically they move.
If you think it is bad when you are in a boat, get into a kayak and see how people treat you. Like you are the bottom of the food chain.......it only takes one time getting buzzed by a boater really close to make me move to water where there is electric or no wake.
never really had a porblem with a fellow fisherman that made me lose my temper. But this past year i was in wisconsin. I had just bought my ranger and was very anal about it. I was on a small lake that has an occasional pontoon boat, but its mostly musky fisherman. I was on the dock having a beer and a cigar and all of a sudden 2 jet skis come around the point. They decide to play around on there jet skis within 50 yards of the dock where my boat is tied too. The waves are knocking my ranger around pretty good, i had bumpers but it still upset me.
That same trip, me and my buddy took his boat over to the bar on the lake to pick up our wives. We pull up to the dock and some guy comes out screaming at us. THis guy and his wife are yelling at us and calling us every name in the book. We had no idea why he was so upset. He told us that him and his wife had live suckers out there long lining for muskies and that we ran over his line. These two people casted out and were sitting in the bar while there poles are out there. No bobbers or anything, we had no way of telling if there was line in the water. He really got mad when my buddy tells him that his outboard costs much more than the line on his pole.
On 11/18/2012 at 6:48 AM, Jig Meister said:If you think it is bad when you are in a boat, get into a kayak and see how people treat you. Like you are the bottom of the food chain.......it only takes one time getting buzzed by a boater really close to make me move to water where there is electric or no wake.
I hear that. A lot of guys seem to think if they spend $75,000 on a boat they paid for the right to bully the guys in smaller craft around. I think seeing dodgeball is being taken out of schools, it should be allowed on the lakes. If a guy is close enough to hit with a ball, you should be allowed to peg them with one hahahahaha.
Happened today at a tournament, guy fishing a different tournament pulls right up within casting distance and goes to fishing.....
On 11/17/2012 at 11:28 PM, scaleface said:Ive had crappie tisherman pull right into a tree i was fishing and tie off to it..LOL Crappie fishermen are a little bit off.
I believe that's what the guy in my picture was mainly after but the bass don't know those minnows aren't meant for them.
On 11/18/2012 at 6:48 AM, Jig Meister said:If you think it is bad when you are in a boat, get into a kayak and see how people treat you. Like you are the bottom of the food chain.......it only takes one time getting buzzed by a boater really close to make me move to water where there is electric or no wake.
I fished out of 2 man, plastic boat for years, I know what you mean, almost like they pretend they can't even see you.
I don't own any lake so I appreciate it when others don't cruise over top or sit on the spot I'm casting to... that's it. Others are welcome to anywhere else on the water I'm not currently fishing in.
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HA! 50 yards? Try fishing a smallmouth or walleye tourney mid fall on the mississippiand you will appreciate that 50 yards. For those of you that have verticaljigged tailwaters in the spring/fall you know what im talking about. A guy could just hop from boat to boat sometimes.
Guys being that close is rude especially on a small lake. Either way i dont mind much as long as i never cast over him or get turned due to his motor.
On 11/18/2012 at 9:20 PM, OkobojiEagle said:I don't own any lake so I appreciate it when others don't cruise over top or sit on the spot I'm casting to... that's it. Others are welcome to anywhere else on the water I'm not currently fishing in.
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I "own" all the public water I fish. I NEVER put up with any of the situations that have been described on this thread.
The thought of of ever casting to make a point has never occurred to me. Confront the perp up front and tell them
to move and stay away.
On a lighter note...
My buddies and I are drifting minnows on the Tennesse River, 30 yards or so off the bank.
Dude with 3 kids and his wife come UP river at about 10 miles an hour on the INSIDE! Man,
we just had to smile.
On 11/17/2012 at 9:54 PM, Crappiebasser said:In my younger days I hooked a guy on a jet ski with a Rat-l-trap. I am pretty lucky I didn't get an aggravated assault charge for it. I have a lot less tick and vinegar these days and just ignore them or leave.
I will bet he thought twice kicking a wake on another fisherman again. Ouch, that had to hurt.
The problem here is that there is no universal definition of "rude". I try to stay away from others and appreciate it when they do same. That said, if Ithere was a major conflict, I'm not sure that there would be any law that could be enforced. It's a bad situation. The best thing to do is to use the golden rule and explain fishing distance ethics to others.
When I run into idiots on public waters, I pack up and move on. I've confronted folks in certain situations in the past, but in my experience it only creates more headache when I tell Johnny bestfishermanever he's in the wrong. I do understand folks confronting people though, making them aware of "fishing etiquette" on the water so hopefully they'll have a little more decensy in the future.
How about the post from Sam talking about the tournament angler who would have his dad race ahead to the best spots and carry a shotgun out on the deck of his boat for everyone to see.
Had this one last month. I could have hit these morons with my paddle. They should be shot and put down.
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This happened about 40 years ago, there were some of us fishing on the Gasconade about a half mile or so from where it empties in to the Missouri. An other guy and I were fishing from his jon boat and the other 2 guys were in the one guys jet boat with a 454 cu in v8. Now mind you were were back in a little cove so there was plenty of river for the speed boats to play in. This one bunch kept coming up river and would turn and see how close they could get to us. John the guy I was with was a cop and wanted to shoot a hole in their boat. I told him to wait as I could see that Bill the jet boat owner was getting real peeved.
They came around again and this time when they passed we heard the 454 fire up, this boat would run in excess of 60 mph, Bill pulls out and heads down river after them. In no time he catches them and passes them pulling over in front of them. He then reaches up and pulls the reverse gate at pretty much full throttle, which created this huge wave that swamped their boat. It didn't sink it but I don't think the ride was much fun. Needless to say we didn't have any more issues with them the rest of the day. Nor did anyone else come over to where we were fishing trying to cause trouble.
I will be marketing a new invention this spring. A portable torpedo system that can be fitted to anything from a yak to a bass boat. Any interest?
i shore fish and have bucket fishermen try to move too close to me after i catch a nice fish so when that happens i suddenley forget how to cast and cast right in front of them or cross there line hahah
i find a lot of the time the guy who cuts you off or moves in on you and jacks your spot or scopes what your using doesnt have the skill to catch fish anyways. I have had times when im trout fishing ill have guys literally walk in the middle of the stream in front of where i am fishing, and then get ticked when i catch a fish and it jumps right behind them when i am fighting it. ive had guys walk 30 feet up stream of me and step i the current and contiune to drift his presetation dead in the middle of the stream, straight down i front of me. same guys has the tenacity to tell me that if i "snag" his line, he will reel it in, cut off my lure and throw it in the woods. i promptly responded to him saying "you know it is against the law to interfere with people legally fishing and hunting"................. not another word. i much rather take a plate number or registratio number, call it in, and let the CO take care of those clowns.
Many years ago a friend was cane pole crappie fishing with his son and daughter-in-law. A guy pulled right next to them. Daughter in law asked the guy to pull about 3' closer. She followed that with, "When you do I'll be able to hit you over the head with my cane pole". No the exact woords but as close as my memory allows.
On 11/19/2012 at 11:37 AM, scrutch said:I will be marketing a new invention this spring. A portable torpedo system that can be fitted to anything from a yak to a bass boat. Any interest?
I'll take two !!!
The great teacher once said,
QuoteYou have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
So I say it is the right thing to let another fisherman borrow some space, and if it is necessary, to find a new place to fish. Quote is from Matthew 5:38.
I was fishing from the bank about 5 years ago and landed a LM that went between 2-1/2 and 3. By the time I had the fish unhooked, weighed, and returned to the water some guy in a boat had pulled right in front of me. He was probably 20 feet out from the bank and straight out in front of me. The guy ended up getting weeds wrapped around his trolling motor because he wasn't looking where he was going. I laughed and walked away.
I believe that CURVED has the right answer!!!!
On 11/19/2012 at 11:24 PM, Curved said:The great teacher once said,
So I say it is the right thing to let another fisherman borrow some space, and if it is necessary, to find a new place to fish. Quote is from Matthew 5:38.
Thank you...AWESOME
Well This has happened to me befor- I slowly put my rod down -turn my big engine towards the intruder-Lift my jack plate and moter up -start my big motor -stomp it and throw the biggest rooster tail all over them and say sorry.Im new to this sport how do you work this thing
I went out fishing on a canal this Sunday. about and hour or two later a family shows up with a jet ski, daddy, and his kid take turns and blow fulls speed withing 30 feet of me MANY times. some people are just inconsiderate a**holes.
another day i was fishing the same canal, a guy shows up, sees me pull fish from one spot, so he starts casting his bait right in front of me and almost over my lines...
oh well.
Typically people will not just take your spot/crowd around here, with that said few months back an older gentleman saw me bring in a few and walked over to me, we chatted for a bit and he started casting on the opposite side of me 10” away. I used this opportunity to let him fish that other lure which was a hula grub, I wanted to see if the bass would hit it over my lure, they didn’t I had the pattern down and he didn’t. I gained information from him just as he used me to try to gain a bass, it worked out in about 20 min he was gone and I caught another bass lol.. Really most people tend to ask a few question and go on..
If I do encounter someone I ask a few question and also ask if they mind me fishing nearby but that’s only happened once this year since they were in a known hot spot.
On 11/19/2012 at 11:24 PM, Curved said:The great teacher once said,
So I say it is the right thing to let another fisherman borrow some space, and if it is necessary, to find a new place to fish. Quote is from Matthew 5:38.
you probably haven't had anyone pull up right next to you on your big fish spot before after you had traveled hundreds if not over a thousand miles to fish your favorite lake and spot. It will change a man.
I was the offender a few weeks ago...or so the other fisherman thought hahaha.
I was fishing for stripers as they come back down the coast for winter. But the spot is very unlikely, it is about 7 miles inland from the ocean and another 3 miles down a stream connected to the inlet. It is in the middle of the woods and the stream itself is only about 30ft wide. There is only one 20ft strech that you can fish from as there is a space in the trees. The water is PACKED with monster(20-25lbers) stripers and no one even knows it. I could put my hand in and just grab one. So there I am looking totally out of place with saltwater gear and big heavy poppers. I was the only one there when a guy walks up in full fly fisherman gear(vest, waders). I wave to him but get no love back so I figure he didn't see me. I continue to fish for about 15 minutes and then decide it was time to leave, so I walk over to him and say "how's it going"...before I could warn him of the stripers, and tell him he was gonna have a hard time landing trout before they became food, he looks at me with hate and walks away without saying a word because I ruined his fishing hahaha. Of course my luck being that I couldn't get a huge striper to smash the popper when he was standing there. Though it was happening every cast before he walked up...so if you ask me he ruined my fishing hahahaha
I have seen guys reeling in trout when a huge striper comes outta no where and eats it. I try explaining to them that the stripers are in there and all I get is.."no your wrong, its to far inland. "It must of been a huge smallmouth"-which don't even exist in these waters. The spot itself is where they stock the stream every year with thousands of trout. The stripers figured this out and just wait for easy pickings....its a frenzy.
here on table rock we too have problems with people pulling right in on you while fishing a spot. but, the real curse is the big cruisers running by withing casting distance and swamping you. i finally lost my temper this summer when the same boat came by the third time. i saw him coming in time to grab my spooning rod out of the locker. when he came by, i cut loose. knocked out on of his fancy windows. of course he stopped and started cussing and was going to call the water patrol. to which i responded, that i would be glad for him to call the water patrol to explain why he had came by our boat within casting distance for the third time. guess i just did not see you, just like you did not see us the other two times you came by. he started up and left, busted window and all. probably was not the right thing to do, but sometimes you just get enough.
bo
On 11/20/2012 at 3:05 AM, Bobby Uhrig said:Well This has happened to me befor- I slowly put my rod down -turn my big engine towards the intruder-Lift my jack plate and moter up -start my big motor -stomp it and throw the biggest rooster tail all over them and say sorry.Im new to this sport how do you work this thing
Too funny! Or you can just say I was getting the weeds out of the prop!
Way back when, sometime in the '50's, my little brother and I were fising with an uncle (who has since passed away), who was the most mild mannered man you would ever want to meet. We had told him about a guy that had an airboat (never saw one before that) and he would harass us while we were trying to fish. Well, the guy came out from his place, up and across the river, and started buzzing us getting as close as he could without hitting us. My uncle opened his tackle box and pulled a revolver out, pointed it at the airbooater and followed him as he buzzed by. The guy parked his boat and never did bother us again.
I know my uncle would never have shot at the guy, but the fool didn't know that.
Oddly enough, it's happened to me more in tournaments more than any other situation. One time I was fishing an FLW event and had done quite well the first three days. I was fishing an area that relatively isolated, and there were no other boats within a mile of me. Day four had me in third place at the start, and running for the lead, as I hadn't exhausted the fish supply in the area. I felt really comfortable with where I was, and what I could do with it. Upon pulling in to the spot, I was barely trolling motor down, and had a fairly large named pro, whom will remain nameless here, pull 30 yards in front of me, drop the motor and started going to town. Literally. He pulled 19 pounds that day, moved up from 7th place to win, and I dropped to 9th as the two other spots that I had that were very similar just didn't have the fish.
I brought it to the attention of the tournament director, and he questioned the validity of the argument, and only after verifying both our GPS tracks did he see JUST how close he was to me, also, he saw that this was his first trip into the water that was there, whereas I'd been fishing it consistently, you could tell from the tracks alone.
The director said that it was suspicious, but as there was no other witness, the distance couldn't be verified from GPS alone. He did say that, unofficially, what the pro did was total and complete crap. It ended up costing me $10,000. Funny thing is, I've talked to the pro many times, he's never said word one about it. He acts like it never happened, just that we were fishing the same water. It shows the kind of guy he really is...
I fish waters that are heavily pressured during spring, summer, and fall here in Ohio by both fishermen/women and pleasure boaters. I have had several "encounters" where others have "poached" MY waters...or at least so I thought.
I had the opportunity to fish with a friend on a lake near Columbus. There were people standing literally next to one another fishing...we walked over, my friend says hows the fishing, gets several replies, and then my friend says....mind if we cut in over here...nothing but welcome invitations. Really changed my perspective. Many folks, standing together fishing, having a great time. I caught three within about 10 minutes to which one guy loudly states...you only been here 10 minutes...obviously beginners luck...sounds corny but was very funny at the time.
During the summer months on my home lake...I have starting fishing from about midnight to whenever in the morning...almost no pressure, very peaceful...and downright eerie at times. Kinda exciting
On 11/22/2012 at 9:45 PM, shootermcbob said:During the summer months on my home lake...I have starting fishing from about midnight to whenever in the morning...almost no pressure, very peaceful...and downright eerie at times. Kinda exciting
Yup - My favorite way to fish- - for almost any species.
Night operations are often very effective and definitely add a extra level of excitement to the sport.
Certainly improved my overall abilities as well.
A-Jay
On 11/21/2012 at 3:19 AM, shimmy said:you probably haven't had anyone pull up right next to you on your big fish spot before after you had traveled hundreds if not over a thousand miles to fish your favorite lake and spot. It will change a man.
Thousands?? .....cmon man....
On 11/24/2012 at 5:30 AM, unionman said:Thousands?? .....cmon man....
First off, "thousands" is never mentioned in my thread; just said over a thousand (this would require knowing how to read). Every year i drive 1200 miles to fish in another state (which would be over a thousand). Second of all, i was being dramatic about how people who fish your spot will "change a man" and you probably missed that too.
On 11/24/2012 at 1:32 PM, shimmy said:First off, "thousands" is never mentioned in my thread; just said over a thousand (this would require knowing how to read). Every year i drive 1200 miles to fish in another state (which would be over a thousand). Second of all, i was being dramatic about how people who fish your spot will "change a man" and you probably missed that too.
First off, dramatic is an understatment (I know this is a big word for you). More like crybaby. You dont own the lake. Or your favorite spot. Therefore, its not YOUR spot. "Your spot" is payed for by the taxpayers in the state (which you arent even a citizen of) in which you travel "over a thousand" miles to fish. Get your head out of your ass and have some common sense. And as far as "changing a man", thats your buisness. Its between you and God if you arent happy being a man. A doctor can help you with the "change" you seek.
On 11/24/2012 at 2:59 PM, unionman said:First off, dramatic is an understatment (I know this is a big word for you). More like crybaby. You dont own the lake. Or your favorite spot. Therefore, its not YOUR spot. "Your spot" is payed for by the taxpayers in the state (which you arent even a citizen of) in which you travel "over a thousand" miles to fish. Get your head out of your ass and have some common sense. And as far as "changing a man", thats your buisness. Its between you and God if you arent happy being a man. A doctor can help you with the "change" you seek.
and, you're still missing it! Like trying to clarify with a kindergartner throwing a temper tantrum.
I don't remember if I read here or some other forum, but one guy's idea was to display big pirates flag with skeleton to keep rude people away including none fishermen. Anyone else got any other idea for visual deterrent?
Edit -> Something like this for $25.
usually when i see them coming i drop a few casts towards them , sometimes i will drop a second line in and let it sit with a bobber on it. Usually they stay clear. If there are 2 of us we usually do the same with big bobbers and just let them sit. In NH we can use 2 rods at a time per person. Not sure if other states allow the same. I will usually also try to fish in a big circle to make them aware that i am using the area. Only once have i had to say , hey Buddy can you give me a little room please.
As bad as it gets fishing, it is magnified while hunting ducks. It's one of the reasons I now fish more than hunt. I fear I may witness the same creeping in fishing as I witnessed in hunting, it gets worst very year. You may not own the lake, but you can own a little descency and treat others as you would want them to treat you.
I gotta apologize guys for my posts earlier on this topic. I got a personal message from Unionman throwing another temper tantrum stating that he has received 7 personal messages from life long members here who got their feelings hurt from my post. I congratulated him for making 7 new friends, but nevertheless, i will apologize to all "7" for the sarcasm. Worst part is i don't know what my wife will say when she finds out i lost 7 friends on this forum.
I like Loop_Dads idea. Thought the pirate flag idea was awesome.
A few times on the Mississippi while fishing white bass, I've attracted dozens of boats. They literally circled my boat, watching me boat the white bass. I fish with 4-pound test and that really helps, while they were trolling, which typically doesn't help. So, I started those evenings with my own little bay and ended them as the hub of a slowing turning wheel. It didn't make me mad, but I'd rather they stayed away.
On 11/25/2012 at 9:04 AM, shimmy said:I gotta apologize guys for my posts earlier on this topic. I got a personal message from Unionman throwing another temper tantrum stating that he has received 7 personal messages from life long members here who got their feelings hurt from my post. I congratulated him for making 7 new friends, but nevertheless, i will apologize to all "7" for the sarcasm. Worst part is i don't know what my wife will say when she finds out i lost 7 friends on this forum.
I like Loop_Dads idea. Thought the pirate flag idea was awesome.
Hey man. Let it go. This is why people dont like you. You just keep going when your so obviously wrong. Try contributing something positive to this forum instead of antagonizing people. Its easy to chalk it up to sarcasm after you find out how much of an ass your "my spot" (on a public lake) post made you look.
Shimmy's tact may be bit lacking but he is right, on public waters no one owns any spot, assuming that's what I understood the post to mean. Other than politely asking another fishing boat, party boat or any other annoyance to move, an act of aggression is shear stupidity.
On 11/19/2012 at 11:37 AM, scrutch said:I will be marketing a new invention this spring. A portable torpedo system that can be fitted to anything from a yak to a bass boat. Any interest?
Omg yes. I would gladly put one on my kayak!
Like jig meister said, guys in yaks are low on the totem pole.
On 11/25/2012 at 2:31 PM, unionman said:Hey man. Let it go. This is why people dont like you. You just keep going when your so obviously wrong. Try contributing something positive to this forum instead of antagonizing people. Its easy to chalk it up to sarcasm after you find out how much of an ass your "my spot" (on a public lake) post made you look.
Buddy, continually swearing does not make you tougher. Especially since we got some young guns reading the forum, use some discretion. Only responding to this since others may get the wrong impression from your bipolar aggression. Do i like it when someone takes my spot that i am currently on? No. Does it really change a man? No. Reading the responses on this forum, most agree with me and not you. As for children like you not liking me, i'm pretty sure i am not missing out on much. Pretty sure the only one i antagonized was you and even then it was in response for you calling me out due to your inability to read my original statement. No one else was antagonized! Am i missing something here?! I feel like i am taking your crazy pills every time i read a personal message from you. Just agree to disagree and whatever you type out, sound like a grown up and avoid profanity. You're on the wrong site for that here bud.
Geez...That's enough.
Edited and closed.
Good night Irene.
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