Anglers caught with 114 Bass! 2024
Otter17 reply :
Apparently 4 anglers were caught keeping 114 bass by the Illinois Department of Natural Resources from the Burning Star Fish and Wildlife area on April 20th.
Not sure what the purpose of keeping all those Bass was. But that ain’t cool!
Glaucus reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 11:31 AM, Otter17 said:
I see now. Thanks for the edit. Will comment soon.
On 4/23/2019 at 11:31 AM, Otter17 said:Apparently 4 anglers were caught keeping 114 bass by the Illinois Department of Natural Resources from the Burning Star Fish and Wildlife area on April 20th.
Not sure what what the purpose of keeping all those Bass was.
Some literal and actual idiots who don't care about anyone or anything but themselves. Being from Illinois I'm all the more furious and disgusted. I saw this happening on the river one day with Smallmouth but there was nothing I could do about it. I didn't have my phone and we were a long way from the vehicles. It wasn't anywhere close to 114 though. Probably 30 or 40.
Glaucus reply :
One of the guys responsible for 46 of those fish is on the IDNR Facebook page bragging about it, saying he's going to pay his small fine and take the fame. He has no regrets. The law is far too lax here.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I didn't know there was 114 bass in Illinois ????
Joking aside, penalties for fish and game violations are a joke. They need to figure the value of each fish up if it was raised in a hatchery to be stocked, man hours and all that, and charge the same way as they do with any type of theft (in Kansas if the total value is over $1,000 in merchandise stolen, it's a felony no matter how petty the items stolen may seem to be). Equipment used should be viewed like tools used in the commission of any crime, as evidence that is seized and not returned, rods, reels, lures, boat, truck, all of it when you get to something of this scale.
Glaucus reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 12:14 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I didn't know there was 114 bass in Illinois ????
Joking aside, penalties for fish and game violations are a joke. They need to figure the value of each fish up if it was raised in a hatchery to be stocked, man hours and all that, and charge the same way as they do with any type of theft (in Kansas if the total value is over $1,000 in merchandise stolen, it's a felony no matter how petty the items stolen may seem to be). Equipment used should be viewed like tools used in the commission of any crime, as evidence that is seized and not returned, rods, reels, lures, boat, truck, all of it when you get to something of this scale.
You know our laws are a joke when one of these guys is literally on the Facebook page of the agency that caught him bragging about it and not caring.
In case anyone is interested, the 46 were caught on a white chatterbait. ????
WRB reply :
Over harvesting was a common problem in California when monetary fines were the penalty. What change poaching here was the fines now include impounding boats, vehicle and tackle used over harvesting game fish....game changer!
Tom
greentrout reply :
the owner was caught asleep and his lake was raped ... it's understandable why other owners have dogs and needed firearms to confront the lowlifes and put the fear of God into them ... it's the only thing they understand ....
good fishing ...
BIGfryFish reply :
It's crap like this that gets folks like PETA all riled up. Then they protest all fishing with things like "oh the humanity". They killing all those fish, yadda-yadda.
Those guys should all be fined, rods/reels/tackle/boats seized, licenses (fishing) revoked, (drivers) suspended.
114 days in jail for each guy.
Glaucus reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 1:09 PM, BIGfryFish said:It's crap like this that gets folks like PETA all riled up. Then they protest all fishing with things like "oh the humanity". They killing all those fish, yadda-yadda.
Those guys should all be fined, rods/reels/tackle/boats seized, licenses (fishing) revoked, (drivers) suspended.
114 days in jail for each guy.
This is how one of the losers feels about his crime. His excuse is that he'd been going there for years and it was overpopulated. Illegally fishing this guy's property and thinking he had the right to manage it.
Zero remorse. Doesn't care at all.
Derek1 reply :
Wow
Otter17 reply :
They say the value of the Bass was $456?! There is a lot more that goes into the Value of that many fish. It takes years for many to get to a certain size. $450 isnt going to get you anywhere soon.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 2:08 PM, Otter17 said:They say the value of the Bass was $456?! There is a lot more that goes into the Value of that many fish. It takes years for many to get to a certain size. $450 isnt going to get you anywhere soon.
I found a fish farm that shows prices online that says a 12+ inch largemouth (which all those appear to be), is $13.99 each. I rounded up to $14 and that puts it at $1596. That still seems pretty light but if they applied what I suggested above, it would make it a felony. The added bonus to that would make it illegal for them to possess a firearm, so no hunting for them either if they did that.
On 4/23/2019 at 1:41 PM, Glaucus said:This is how one of the losers feels about his crime. His excuse is that he'd been going there for years and it was overpopulated. Illegally fishing this guy's property and thinking he had the right to manage it.
The bodies of those fish don't suggest a lake that is overpopulated. More like a healthy lake that was full of healthy, dumb fish that were easily caught.
TOXIC reply :
It's a crime. They robbed someone else of the opportunity to catch those fish legally. I know the DNR here in VA doesn't play around with poachers. We don't keep largemouth but do keep Crappie. Many times it's the fishermen who are fishing to provide food for their families that overharvest. It may be customary in their home country if they are not from here or even for sale in some cases. Doesn't make it right.
NYWayfarer reply :
The guy has been doing this for years and shows no remorse. Sounds like he might even do it again...
Fines are supposed to be a deterrent to crime. When they are not working stiffer penalties up to and including jail time need to be considered.
BassWhole! reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 6:45 PM, TOXIC said:It's a crime. They robbed someone else of the opportunity to catch those fish legally.
NoVa teaching law now? 
That's not how it works. If I steal a car from a dealer's lot, I'm not guilty of depriving potential customers from buying said car. I am guilty (if convicted) of stealing said car.
TOXIC reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 7:24 PM, BassWhole! said:NoVa teaching law now?
As I said it's a crime....consequences of the crime are depriving others from catching the fish, just like in your example keeping someone from legally purchasing the car. If there were no consequences, it wouldn't be a crime.
813basstard reply :
Loser.
Same type of dudes that start fights at little league games.
Square as a cube.
J Francho reply :
If those were trout, and it was in NY state, they'd be in jail.
That fine is a pittance.
MN Fisher reply :
This is from a few years ago here in MN...for crappies and sunnies.
"On Tuesday, Becker County charged the six anglers, from two Bedford, Indiana, families, with misdemeanor overfishing. It’s a crime punishable with a $1,000 fine and up to 90 days in jail.
If convicted of overfishing, it will be expensive. On top of the fine and potential jail time, there is restitution of $5 per fish.
That’s roughly 34-hundred dollars on top of loss of fishing privileges for three years — both in Minnesota and their home state of Indiana."
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/08/11/six-indiana-vacationers-charged-with-676-fish-over-minnesota-limit/
I think the fine and restitution needs to be higher...but loss of fishing license for 3 years is a good start
J Francho reply :
Does Illinois have reciprocity rules with other states? In some states, you lose lose the right to a license, and you lose them in 1/3 of the country.
Choporoz reply :
Unfortunately, these types of guys probably aren't concerned about whether or not they are allowed to buy a license.
MrFrost reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 9:58 PM, Choporoz said:Unfortunately, these types of guys probably aren't concerned about whether or not they are allowed to buy a license.
From that one guys Facebook posts on the IDNR page, I would say you are 100% correct. They will pay their little fines and keep doing whatever they want.
the reel ess reply :
I don't understand all the specifics of this case. It seems this is a public hunting/fishing location. But the story says the landowner told police the men did not have permission to fish. If it is public, I'm sure they're way over the limit. If it's private and they thought they had permission, there's no limit. At least that's how it is here. Sometimes a fishery needs fish to be taken. Could be that was their mentality. That's about 29 fish/person. I've kept more than that at my buddy's pond before because he asked me to.
But if it is public, it's really stupid to take all those. I've known people to take fish only to decide they don't want the hassle of cleaning them and throw them out. It's the whole hunting mentality applied to fishing. It didn't happen if you don't keep evidence.
J Francho reply :
Possession and transporting that many fish is illegal, public or private. At least that's how it's worded in NYS rules.
WRB reply :
You can't transport live fish in Califorina without a permit and 5 bass you need a valid California fishing license to transport dead fish, can't be alive. If caught poaching fish or game you everything envolved in the act including any future licenses.
Fines are a judgement made by the courts, the DFW and local Sheriff confiscate whatever you were caught using to poach with and arrest you.
I remember years ago that several hundred walleyes were poached in Canada by anglers from Iowa and the Minnesota DNR caught the poachers and they only got a small fine, everyone was ticked off, hopefully things have changed.
Tom
lo n slo reply :
pos
BassWhole! reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 9:30 PM, 813basstard said:Same type of dudes that start fights at little league games.
Those peewee bats make great fish clubs for tuna.
slonezp reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 9:53 PM, J Francho said:Does Illinois have reciprocity rules with other states? In some states, you lose lose the right to a license, and you lose them in 1/3 of the country.
IL DNR is over worked and under funded. Anything else I say will turn this political.
The Eastern European and Asian immigrants are breaking the laws on a daily basis. Many of them are keeping the fish and serving them in their restaurants. Sounds like the guys the OP is referring to are just a bunch of jagloads
geo g reply :
I hope they burn their ass!
Mw Michaelis reply :
They need to be put in jail and lose their equipment.
Sad thing is loss of license wont stop the they will just on poaching.
MakeUltraLightGreatAgain reply :
Aside from these 2 being complete scumbags, who keeps Bass anyways then keeps over 100?
NittyGrittyBoy reply :
I keep Bass. But I refuse to clean 100.
I've kept 100+ warmouth, legal limit was 50 a piece. That many Bass is ridiculous
Glaucus reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 5:10 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:I keep Bass. But I refuse to clean 100.
I've kept 100+ warmouth, legal limit was 50 a piece. That many Bass is ridiculous
So you also don't see an issue with breaking the law? Why would you keep double what was legal?
MakeUltraLightGreatAgain reply :
The reason I fish is because of Bass, put them back in the water please... they taste like hell anyways
NittyGrittyBoy reply :
Should've specified, 3 people in the boat kept over 100*
And no don't agree with breaking the law. But also don't think the world will end either because people keep Bass. Just keep the legal amount.
Burke reply :
Those guys just have no remorse.
One of those 114 bass could have been a world/state record if she lived to the fullest. but she was taken too early 
EDIT: I was being sarcastic about the "world record" but you guys get my drift.
NittyGrittyBoy reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 8:35 AM, Burke said:One of those 114 bass could have been a world record but he was taken too early
World Record in Illinois? Yeah they have big deer, but not big Bass!! Largest was 13.1 in '76 ????
Glaucus reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 9:38 AM, NittyGrittyBoy said:World Record in Illinois? Yeah they have big deer, but not big Bass!! Largest was 13.1 in '76 ????
And that was probably an illegitimate record
slonezp reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 6:41 PM, Glaucus said:And that was probably an illegitimate record
Are you saying IL is corrupt? 
Largies4Life reply :
I hopped on Google to read the articles on it. All the headlines are stating they were arrested, but at the end of the articles it says,"The subjects were also issued various warnings and face potential civil charges for the restitution of the fish. The value of the bass is $456 according to statute." This is a joke. It's only going to promote more people to do this. Doing the math, that's $4 per bass. Unbelievable. I get that the DNR does not have very good funding, but situations like THIS is where they should be making all their money. Instead, these 4 morons get a slap on the wrist and off they go to the next body of water...
MakeUltraLightGreatAgain reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 10:41 PM, Largies4Life said:I hopped on Google to read the articles on it. All the headlines are stating they were arrested, but at the end of the articles it says,"The subjects were also issued various warnings and face potential civil charges for the restitution of the fish. The value of the bass is $456 according to statute." This is a joke. It's only going to promote more people to do this. Doing the math, that's $4 per bass. Unbelievable. I get that the DNR does not have very good funding, but situations like THIS is where they should be making all their money. Instead, these 4 morons get a slap on the wrist and off they go to the next body of water...
Yea, sometimes it's better to let the internets harrass these assclownz because the authorities are unable to do their job correctly. Find out who they are and let the fun begin...
NittyGrittyBoy reply :
So your advocating internet bullying?
2 wrongs must make a right?
TnRiver46 reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 10:41 PM, Largies4Life said:I hopped on Google to read the articles on it. All the headlines are stating they were arrested, but at the end of the articles it says,"The subjects were also issued various warnings and face potential civil charges for the restitution of the fish. The value of the bass is $456 according to statute." This is a joke. It's only going to promote more people to do this. Doing the math, that's $4 per bass. Unbelievable. I get that the DNR does not have very good funding, but situations like THIS is where they should be making all their money. Instead, these 4 morons get a slap on the wrist and off they go to the next body of water...
They would rather make their money off the people that follow the rules and pay for license and registration
Glaucus reply :
On 4/25/2019 at 10:41 PM, Largies4Life said:I hopped on Google to read the articles on it. All the headlines are stating they were arrested, but at the end of the articles it says,"The subjects were also issued various warnings and face potential civil charges for the restitution of the fish. The value of the bass is $456 according to statute." This is a joke. It's only going to promote more people to do this. Doing the math, that's $4 per bass. Unbelievable. I get that the DNR does not have very good funding, but situations like THIS is where they should be making all their money. Instead, these 4 morons get a slap on the wrist and off they go to the next body of water...
They had to have been in and out of jail in no time, if they even ended up there at all. They got to keep the fish and one of the guys said they cooked them up all night long.
MickD reply :
On 4/23/2019 at 12:33 PM, WRB said:now include impounding boats, vehicle and tackle used over harvesting game fish....game changer!
I think Ontario is that way too. Really puts the religion in compliance.
Largies4Life reply :
On 4/27/2019 at 6:02 AM, Glaucus said:They had to have been in and out of jail in no time, if they even ended up there at all. They got to keep the fish and one of the guys said they cooked them up all night long.
It's just so sickening hearing about this stuff happening so close to home, too.
PhenoM reply :
Just from the post he put on that page it looks like he's just another white trash dude who will continue to do this.
LCG reply :
Here in Ontario it can be $10k fines, seizure of boat, vehicle, all fishing equipment, and lifetime ban of fishing license.
Should be that way everywhere in my opinion. People should respect the laws and regulations put in place to protect our resources and wildlife.
bazzelite19 reply :
Insane. Who actually eats bass anyway? Just wow. Recently we had a flood on my local lake, the water receded some and lying thier in the parking lot was 20 bass all skinned in a pile and thrown thier to rot where everyone walks and drives. Smh atleast throw them OUT into the lake instead of building a dead fish pile in the parking lot. Smh again. Plus the creek limit is only 2 bass. There must have been atleast 10 people there. (DOUBT IT) d**n poachers
TnRiver46 reply :
On 12/1/2019 at 7:12 PM, bazzelite19 said:Insane. Who actually eats bass anyway? Just wow. Recently we had a flood on my local lake, the water receded some and lying thier in the parking lot was 20 bass all skinned in a pile and thrown thier to rot where everyone walks and drives. Smh atleast throw them OUT into the lake instead of building a dead fish pile in the parking lot. Smh again. Plus the creek limit is only 2 bass. There must have been atleast 10 people there. (DOUBT IT) d**n poachers
Sounds like the answer to your question is a lot of people eat bass, myself included. They are delicious. Poaching is bad but catching and eating bass is my favorite thing in the world
MN Fisher reply :
On 12/1/2019 at 7:12 PM, bazzelite19 said:Who actually eats bass anyway?
(raises his hand) Any I catch in the 2#-3# range has a 50/50 chance of ending up as fillets in my freezer.
bazzelite19 reply :
Nothing wrong with that. Slot limits in that range are a good thing
Yeajray231 reply :
On 4/30/2019 at 9:52 PM, PhenoM said:Just from the post he put on that page it looks like he's just another white trash dude who will continue to do this.
Don't bring race into it. There are crappy people of all shades and sizes.
2tall79 reply :
It appears that in my state, that will be perfectly legal soon.
DogBone_384 reply :
On 12/1/2019 at 7:12 PM, bazzelite19 said:Who actually eats bass anyway?
I live in a city that has a significant foreign population. I’ve seen many folks take buckets of bass home to eat.
My in-laws came here in ‘78 and still wonder why I don’t bring my catches home to them, pickerel included.
Right or wrong, it’s just the way it is sometimes.
Yeajray231 reply :
There's nothing wrong with harvesting bass. Or any species. It's funny because hunters are praised when they tag a huge buck. But if they keep a big bass it's frowned upon. Make whatever excuses you want, it's the same thing. Both have already passed their genetics on , and both are treasure in the outdoor world.
Never quite understood why it's okay to take a huge buck but not okay to take a huge bass. I personally wouldn't just because I'd hope to catch it again and I don't like to eat most fish anyway. But I would take the buck surely, but I'd also take a smaller buck and would definitely take a doe as well.
galyonj reply :
On 12/1/2019 at 11:36 PM, TnRiver46 said:Sounds like the answer to your question is a lot of people eat bass, myself included. They are delicious. Poaching is bad but catching and eating bass is my favorite thing in the world
I wouldn't a bit mind eating the fish I catch here locally, but I'm partial to the taste of fish that hasn't been marinating in Pennzoil its whole life. I love the fishing here, but the water is nasty.
TnRiver46 reply :
On 12/3/2019 at 10:47 PM, galyonj said:I wouldn't a bit mind eating the fish I catch here locally, but I'm partial to the taste of fish that hasn't been marinating in Pennzoil its whole life. I love the fishing here, but the water is nasty.
Haha. It’s a lot better than it used to be
galyonj reply :
On 12/3/2019 at 10:55 PM, TnRiver46 said:Haha. It’s a lot better than it used to be
Oh, no question. The only way it could've been worse is if it had to be declared a superfund site.
Munkin reply :
$456 for 114 LM bass of legal size, where can I buy them?
Allen
MAN reply :
On 12/1/2019 at 7:12 PM, bazzelite19 said:Insane. Who actually eats bass anyway? Just wow.
I do
scaleface reply :
On 12/4/2019 at 3:36 AM, MAN said:I do
Me to . They are delicious .
geo g reply :
What a d**n shame. Equipment should be confiscated, hefty fines, license revoked. Jail time for future lifetime ban of fishing violations. These guys are scum.
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