Loves And Pet Peeves Of Outdoor Television 2024
coryn h. fishowl reply :
As much as I love outdoor television, I have my fair share of pet peeves. number two on the list, is when a pro dismisses an impressive fish as small. Perhaps it is because I'm in Northern IL, and up here bass grow slow, maybe it's due to me fishing from the bank, but when I catch a 2 pounder from shore i'm more than satisfied, a three pounder means I'm ecstatic, and a 4 pounder makes my heart skip a beat. I certainly do not however dismiss a fiesty lil uno pounder as a nuisance. My number one, and perhaps more justified pet peeve, is when somebody makes a bad/ lame shot a celebrates. for example watching whitetail freaks yesterady, the chick gut shot a buck and proceeded to squeal, celebrate and preach of her good shot. This is nearly as bad as some "pro," who was knife hunting boars; the dogs grounded him, and the guides took his legs and immobilized the boar, then said pro proceeded to stab the boar in the lung and talk about how hard this quest was. So come on my fellow outdoorsman, delve into your inner david e. petzal curmudgeon, and vent your complaints and pet peeves.
00 mod reply :
I don't have many as the shows are "their shows" and not mine, BUT, it really irks me when a TV host has his own show, but fishes with another species guide and tells them what to do. I undertand you are a guide and a good fisherman, but the guy you are fishing with does this every day. Listen to them!
Jeff
Topwaterspook reply :
A pet peeve for me is when these "outdoor " shows are a thinly veiled half hour commercial.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 2:50 AM, coryn h. fishowl said:As much as I love outdoor television, I have my fair share of pet peeves. number two on the list, is when a pro dismisses an impressive fish as small. Perhaps it is because I'm in Northern IL, and up here bass grow slow, maybe it's due to me fishing from the bank, but when I catch a 2 pounder from shore i'm more than satisfied, a three pounder means I'm ecstatic, and a 4 pounder makes my heart skip a beat. I certainly do not however dismiss a fiesty lil uno pounder as a nuisance.
My pet peeve is actually the opposite of this. I hate when a host claims, "This is a Big One!," only to have it be a 2 pounder. I know they need to build the drama of a show, but for some reason it annoys me when they call out these big fish they just hooked when it turns out to be just average at best.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 5:08 AM, Topwaterspook said:A pet peeve for me is when these "outdoor " shows are a thinly veiled half hour commercial.
This is me Second Pet Peeve (the first I mentioned in the post above)
Dyerbassman reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 5:15 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:This is me Second Pet Peeve (the first I mentioned in the post above)
They have to have sponsors in order to have a show. Of course they are going to mention/display whatever they are using to help out the sponsor! It is supposed to be entertainment. Try not to read into it so much!
that possum reply :
I can't stand it when one of the hunting celebs gutshoots a deer, then he/she talks about the awesome shot they just put on it.
Along the same lines, they are usually more concerned with making sure the shot was caught on film rather than making sure it was a clean, ethical kill.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 5:28 AM, Dyerbassman said:They have to have sponsors in order to have a show. Of course they are going to mention/display whatever they are using to help out the sponsor! It is supposed to be entertainment. Try not to read into it so much!
I understand the business end of it, but if they are going to hawk me a product, at least add some educational or informative value to it. The Lindners push certain products during their show, but I feel I learned a new technique or approach after watching an episode. The guy on Fishing Univeristy also pushes his products, but all I have after watching his show is a headache, with nothing learned.
Dyerbassman reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 6:04 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:I understand the business end of it, but if they are going to hawk me a product, at least add some educational or informative value to it. The Lindners push certain products during their show, but I feel I learned a new technique or approach after watching an episode. The guy on Fishing Univeristy also pushes his products, but all I have after watching his show is a headache, with nothing learned.
So don't watch it! But I'm sure if you had your own show, The Lucky Craft Man Fishing Extravaganza, if a sponsor with deep pockets wanted you to showcase their product, you would, too, whether or not anyone learned anything from it. No offense, really. But most outdoor shows are made to sell, sell, sell! If you really want to LEARN, you come to this site or Bassresource YouTube pages. Once again, not trying to be negative, just real. I watch the same shows, but I don't expect to walk away feeling like a better angler. It just better than 95% of the other crap on TV.
Sam reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 5:08 AM, Topwaterspook said:A pet peeve for me is when these "outdoor " shows are a thinly veiled half hour commercial.
Amen!!!!
flyfisher reply :
i am not a hunter but for some reason i like hunting shows. i can't stand when i see people hunting black bear over bait and they say we just have to wait for them to get their head out to get a clean shot. then they go crazy like they did something special.....might as well go hunt in a zoo or on s game reserve where they drive till they get close enough to shoot and even use the vehicle as a gun stand.
Lucky Craft Man reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 6:15 AM, Dyerbassman said:So don't watch it! But I'm sure if you had your own show, The Lucky Craft Man Fishing Extravaganza, if a sponsor with deep pockets wanted you to showcase their product, you would, too, whether or not anyone learned anything from it. No offense, really. But most outdoor shows are made to sell, sell, sell! If you really want to LEARN, you come to this site or Flukemasters YouTube pages. Once again, not trying to be negative, just real. I watch the same shows, but I don't expect to walk away feeling like a better angler. It just better than 95% of the other crap on TV.
Hmmm...The Lucky Craft Man Fishing Extravaganza...I like that. Do you know of any sponsors with deep pockets will to start a show like that? The premise will be a fisherman (who admittedly sucks), but goes to locations that harbor trophy fish, hire a guide to put me on these fish, and then I will look decent (though, I think this concept has been used already).
As far as not watching shows like the one I mentioned, I don't.
hooah212002 reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 6:15 AM, Dyerbassman said:So don't watch it! But I'm sure if you had your own show, The Lucky Craft Man Fishing Extravaganza, if a sponsor with deep pockets wanted you to showcase their product, you would, too, whether or not anyone learned anything from it. No offense, really. But most outdoor shows are made to sell, sell, sell! If you really want to LEARN, you come to this site or Flukemasters YouTube pages. Once again, not trying to be negative, just real. I watch the same shows, but I don't expect to walk away feeling like a better angler. It just better than 95% of the other crap on TV.
Do you not realize the purpose of this thread?
hooah212002 reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 5:08 AM, Topwaterspook said:A pet peeve for me is when these "outdoor " shows are a thinly veiled half hour commercial.
Not to brown nose him any further (he gets that enough), but this is truly what sets Gene abover and beyond the rest. I aim to watch fishing shows to learn techniques and guys like Gene tell you how to use the technique instead of what equipment to do the technique with. It's fine if a guy says "I am dropshotting with X bait, X reel and X rod" as long as he also says WHY he made those choices and as long as those reasons aren't "BECAUSE THIS BRAND AND THIS BRAND ONLY IS THE ABSOLUTE BEST (because they paid me to say that)".
ExtremeAnglerTV is significantly bad at this, but fun to watch. "I'm using a St. Croix rod for this frog technique today because St. Croix rods are the best rods money can buy" is nearly verbatim what he says every episode.
BaconStealer303 reply :
I enjoy when angler's fish large, well known lakes, or at least natural areas. It annoys me when Bill Dance's episode is just a 30 minute lure showcase on a pellet fed pond. Either way i still watch it haha.
Dyerbassman reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 6:48 AM, hooah212002 said:Do you not realize the purpose of this thread?
Just responding to a comment. That's all. I agree that most outdoor shows are totally rigged and edited, but it's still fun to watch.
coryn h. fishowl reply :
MY FISRT HOT THREAD, altuogh I also hate "thinly veiled commercial," if it teaches me something I'm happy. If it weren't for outdoor TV, I never would've learned of GULP, Rapala, and KVD cranks, which altogether admittedly catch most of my fish, but i learned to use them from the shows where they were advertised. Thank your lucky stars for bassresource, where you can learn and read reviews of products hawked at you on TV. 
flyfisher reply :
I also think most top anglers like a bait before they are sponsored by them and once they get to be big time they then are more involved in the R & D side of the equation. So yes they get paid but i would venture a guess it isn't as much as we would like to think.
Now the one show i cannot stand because of all the brand dropping is Roland Martin. Every fish he catches he has to go through his whole set up and name brands for everything he is using. Not to mention he looks like he is nascar with all his logos every where.
bleedingshrimp reply :
I can't stand the shows where the angler doesn't talk about the technique they are using and why they are using it or other such considerations. Then there is 5 minutes of fishing and 5 minutes of the same d**n commercials advertising the products they've already been selling half of the show.
That's a 50/50 split of commercials vs. programming....and then half of the programming is an advertisement too.
Greed reply :
My biggest pet peeve when watching a fishing show is seeing a fish feeder in the immediate background on the 10 acre pond they're fishing. To be more direct it pains me to see fishing shows shot on small private waters.
aquaholic reply :
I also cant stand the hog hunts that involve dogs and a knife. It would be much more impressive if you could take the hog down by yourself and kill it with a knife. I dont really understand why one would enjoy that either though. Im sure its a rush of adrenaline but then again it just doesnt seem ethical to me. I enjoy hunting and all that but something about terriffying an animal and then stabbing it until it dies just seems a little crazy.
coryn h. fishowl reply :
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On 6/29/2013 at 10:08 AM, aquaholic said:I also cant stand the hog hunts that involve dogs and a knife. It would be much more impressive if you could take the hog down by yourself and kill it with a knife. I dont really understand why one would enjoy that either though. Im sure its a rush of adrenaline but then again it just doesnt seem ethical to me. I enjoy hunting and all that but something about terriffying an animal and then stabbing it until it dies just seems a little crazy.
I disagree, I would love to knife hunt sounds rather primal, but one where guides practically string the animal up before you even kill it, yyyeeaahhh no. There is no sport in that
Bluebasser86 reply :
Don't usually see it too much in the actual fishing shows but in some of the shows like "River Monsters" or "Top Hooker" I'm not sure why they do it but they'll add the old school clicking noise in when someone is reeling in, no matter that very few reels anymore make any kind of noise when you reel them in. I know it's a minor thing but it bugs me every time I hear it on one of those shows.
hooah212002 reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 1:10 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Don't usually see it too much in the actual fishing shows but in some of the shows like "River Monsters" or "Top Hooker" I'm not sure why they do it but they'll add the old school clicking noise in when someone is reeling in, no matter that very few reels anymore make any kind of noise when you reel them in. I know it's a minor thing but it bugs me every time I hear it on one of those shows.
That sound is added post processing? I always wondered why Jeremy Wade's reels did that. That's pretty silly to do.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
My pet peeves are:
1- when the fishing tips are useless cause the host can't think if anything (this only happens on a few shows)
2- when the host doesn't know what he's doing and he doesn't catch a lot/doesn't teach me anything (Like Charlie Moore:no offense- that show is boring most of the time)
My favorite fishing shows are Zona's AFS, FLW outdoors, bass masters, big bass battle, scottmartin challenge, and major league fishing.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 1:15 PM, hooah212002 said:That sound is added post processing? I always wondered why Jeremy Wade's reels did that. That's pretty silly to do.
Some of his casting reels probably are making the noise because he so often bottoms fishes with the bait clicker turned on. If you don't disengage that when you start reeling it will continue to click while you're reeling. I've seen them do it with spinning reels and even low profile casting reels, times like that it annoys me. I don't know if they somehow think that makes it more authentic but it just makes it silly to me.
prjavelin reply :
I hate when the host of the show is not even decent at fishing and they are there because they know how to be on camera. Example: JP de rose, tim horton etc etc.
When will anyone be smart enough to give a show to a guy like brent ehler or shaw grisby. these guys are so likeable and very smart and they dont have a show.
Hi Salenity reply :
I used to DVR Zona and MLF but every time they would replay it my DVR would record it as a new episode. It would record the same episode 5+ times a weekend easy
I don't record them anymore and haven't got to see them in awhile. :-(
RAMBLER reply :
One of my pet peeves is the really dumb things people call a fish when they land it. A guy pulls in a fish and then calls it a real "toad" or a "stud" or a "hog". HEY STUPID, IT'S A FISH. Perhaps a really big fish, but it's still a fish.
Another one is when the host tells us all about the best lure to use in these conditions, in this place, etc. He shows how to tie it on, what tackle to use to fish that particular lure, then when you see him landing fish the lure in the fish's mouth is absolutely nothing like what he just told us about. I don't remember which show it was, but after all the hype about a lure, I never saw the host catch a fish on it the rest of the show.
One more pet peeve. The host catches a fish, it's not very big, but it's a "quality" fish. What the heck is that?
A-Jay reply :
For me, it revolves around shows that target smallmouth bass.
Every notice that these shows are almost always filmed during the spawn. When the fish are shallow enough where the anglers are sight fishing for them. That's all well and good, and makes for entertaining TV, but I'd appreciate a show where "The Host" actually targets these fish when they are Not at their most vulnerable. A show dedicated to finding these fish when they are Not in 10 feet of water and defending the nest / territory. This I would embrace.
A-Jay
tatertester reply :
To me Charlie Moore and Zona should take a long vacation together so they could throw down on each other, fighting over who is the biggest showboater and bonehead!!!!!......The best TV fishing show is ,hands down, the Lindners.....They fish for both largemouth and smallmouth in both lakes and rivers, explain techniques well , great photography, just good entertaining ,educational watching.....Plus , just good downhome, approachable guys.
hooah212002 reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 8:59 PM, A-Jay said:For me, it revolves around shows that target smallmouth bass.
Every notice that these shows are almost always filmed during the spawn. When the fish are shallow enough where the anglers are sight fishing for them. That's all well and good, and makes for entertaining TV, but I'd appreciate a show where "The Host" actually targets these fish when they are Not at their most vulnerable. A show dedicated to finding these fish when they are Not in 10 feet of water and defending the nest / territory. This I would embrace.
A-Jay
I recall the Lindners typically catching smallies deep. But I haven't watched a legit fishing show since I was a kid.
0119 reply :
To me fishing shows are no longer for education. Forums and youtube have taken the place of shows, dvd's and especially magazines which seem to be made poorer every month. I look for shows who have a host I enjoy or go to a location I'm interested in seeing. I now watch only the English fishing shows on WFN and Lunkerville, stuff that makes me feel good.
200racing reply :
my biggest pet peeve is jimmy houstons hair gosh that mop looks bad 
DelfiBoyz_One_and_Only reply :
My pet peeve is are hunting shows centered around a food plot! Be it bear, deer, hogs, etc. Anyone can train a critter to come to a food source. The real hunt is all natural, you, your weapon of choice, and the natural elements/environment. Hunting a farm to help a farmers harvest is good to do but not show worthy. Walking into a Forrest finding deer signs and taking game is where it's at.
Jay
bassh8er reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 6:04 AM, Lucky Craft Man said:I understand the business end of it, but if they are going to hawk me a product, at least add some educational or informative value to it. The Lindners push certain products during their show, but I feel I learned a new technique or approach after watching an episode. The guy on Fishing Univeristy also pushes his products, but all I have after watching his show is a headache, with nothing learned.
Couldn't agree more about Fishing University, and they do not even hide the fact that the show is a 1/2 hour commercial for whatever lure they're using that day; because they only use 1 lure.
They were using one of the Little John cranks from Spro the other day, and John Crews was fishing with him.
They both threw the same lure right behind each other? Really? I'd think the guy in the back of the boat would throw something different if they really wanted to find a pattern and catch as many fish as possible.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 1:35 PM, prjavelin said:I hate when the host of the show is not even decent at fishing and they are there because they know how to be on camera. Example: JP de rose, tim horton etc etc.
When will anyone be smart enough to give a show to a guy like brent ehler or shaw grisby. these guys are so likeable and very smart and they dont have a show.
Brent ehler is awesome!
NorcalBassin reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 10:36 PM, tatertester said:To me Charlie Moore and Zona should take a long vacation together so they could throw down on each other, fighting over who is the biggest showboater and bonehead!!!!!......The best TV fishing show is ,hands down, the Lindners.....They fish for both largemouth and smallmouth in both lakes and rivers, explain techniques well , great photography, just good entertaining ,educational watching.....Plus , just good downhome, approachable guys.
I agree with 2/3 of that. I'm a huge Boston sports fan and cannot even bear to watch Charlie Moore. Drives me nuts. Not sure why he even has a show, but apparently a lot people must really like him. I actually like Zona. He reminds me of going out fishing with an excited buddy and he's always humble about his skills while out on the water. The Linders seem to always fish public waters and show you just how they're catching them so you can too. Gotta respect that.
coryn h. fishowl reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 8:20 PM, RAMBLER said:One of my pet peeves is the really dumb things people call a fish when they land it. A guy pulls in a fish and then calls it a real "toad" or a "stud" or a "hog". HEY STUPID, IT'S A FISH. Perhaps a really big fish, but it's still a fish.
Another one is when the host tells us all about the best lure to use in these conditions, in this place, etc. He shows how to tie it on, what tackle to use to fish that particular lure, then when you see him landing fish the lure in the fish's mouth is absolutely nothing like what he just told us about. I don't remember which show it was, but after all the hype about a lure, I never saw the host catch a fish on it the rest of the show.
One more pet peeve. The host catches a fish, it's not very big, but it's a "quality" fish. What the heck is that?
What about Mark Zona's personal favorit: any variation of the word chunk, i.e chunker, lil chunks/chunker. That's the only alternate name I rally like, unless it's a huge fish, in which case hog is acceptable. I do agree on the whole small, but quality fish thing, unless you're talking about a smallmouth or an exceptionally pretty bass.
coryn h. fishowl reply :
On 7/1/2013 at 1:59 AM, coryn h. fishowl said:What about Mark Zona's personal favorit: any variation of the word chunk, i.e chunker, lil chunks/chunker. That's the only alternate name I rally like, unless it's a huge fish, in which case hog is acceptable. I do agree on the whole small, but quality fish thing, unless you're talking about a smallmouth or an exceptionally pretty bass.
I meant I agree with you about the small, but quality fish, makes no sense, unless it is a smallmouth or an exceptionally unique or pretty bass
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 7/1/2013 at 1:59 AM, coryn h. fishowl said:What about Mark Zona's personal favorit: any variation of the word chunk, i.e chunker, lil chunks/chunker. That's the only alternate name I rally like, unless it's a huge fish, in which case hog is acceptable. I do agree on the whole small, but quality fish thing, unless you're talking about a smallmouth or an exceptionally pretty bass.
Don't forget about "slaunch" or "mega-slaunch". He says that a lot too ahaha
SirSnookalot reply :
I don't watch bass shows on tv, dragging a fish across the water is not my idea of fishing, I'm certainly not going to watch it.
Not really a pet peeve just some additional viewing I'd like to see. I do watch some saltwater shows, most of them are in waters that are not like what I have in my area. They seem to always be fishing with bait all over the place and the fish are crashing them, believe me it doesn't always happen that way. I'd like to see more shows where they highlight surfcasting or fly fishing from the beach
Bankbeater reply :
I can't stand the way they edit out all the fishing mishaps and problems that occur while fishing. They make everything look like all you have to do is drop your bait in the water and you will catch fish. Just once I would like to see someone hang up or have a reel break on them.
FrogFreak reply :
My pet peeve is when I'm just sitting there enjoying a show and then I realize this guy gets to do this for a living and I have to go to work and sit in an office all day.......
flippin and pitchin reply :
I timed a show that will remain annonymous the other day for content. The 30 minute show had 9 minutes af actual substance related to fishing. This is common for the series. I love my DVR. Fast forward through the fluff.
stkbassn reply :
It's that sound on FLW outdoors when the angler hooks a fish, the one they play, you know what I'm talking about...not sure how to describe it...however, it plays in my head every time I hook a fish!! annoying! LOL
Felix77 reply :
LOL ... Boy do I have a little story for you! If you saw the river monsters episode in the Ukraine he was searching for the river monster of the Ukraine. My wife has never seen the show but decided to watch it with me because she is from Kiev in the Ukraine. In Jeremy Wade fashion he dramatically finds someone who is describing the "monster". The native called it the "Psalm" or something like that. My wife yells at the screen "Oh for freakin' sake ... its a stupid catfish". By the end of the show he catches a catfish.
She also mentioned that according to Jeremy Wade the "Psalm" weighed something like 200 -300 pounds when the native actually said something like 100 - 200.
Fun to watch the show with a native. 
Felix77 reply :
I watch the big commercial fishing shows for entertainment more than to learn more now than I ever did. Early on I felt like I was learning by listening to what they were saying. I realized I needed to pay attention to what they were doing, how they were doing it and where they actually are. I think it was one of Gene's videos which said the best way to watch those shows is to put it on mute. I never felt so validated about my opinion on fishing shows.
Sometimes what they say has to be seriously adjusted to meet your needs. For example ... When they refer to springtime fishing in the south it's generally a different world up here in the north. Their April spring is more like June/July here if we are lucky. Another example is summertime fishing when the water get's well above 90. I don't think the waters up north ever get that not. At least I haven't seen it yet.
The only pet peeve I have is one which is just a 30 minute commercial that someone mentioned. But only those which show hookset after hookset, doesn't explain what they are doing or show how they are doing it. I avoid those like the plague.
CPBassFishing reply :
I hate when the guy fishing holds up a 2 pounder at full arm's length, making it look twice the size. Dave mercer is particularly guilty of this.
Nice_Bass reply :
In-Fisherman, linders show good info. I guess I can watch zonas show as he does remind me of a buddy and is a bit humble-
The rest are garbage.
The worst are tournament shows, hooksets of 2lb fish- screaming and going on like children while on trophy waters. Never insight on tournament prep except for what gear they bring. Would love to hear more on other aspects of the tournament except for your sponsors.
Some of the tournament guys are okay but that seems to be a small portion.
For the most part though a lot of them (tournament guys) remind me of a box of macaroni and cheese; prepackaged, corporate with a distinct "cheesy" flavor.
Edit(I do love smaller programs only on DVD/etc.- Trout eaters, etc.
SirSnookalot reply :
On 7/2/2013 at 11:26 PM, CPBassFishing said:I hate when the guy fishing holds up a 2 pounder at full arm's length, making it look twice the size. Dave mercer is particularly guilty of this.
Glad it doesn't happen on Bass resource.
GoneFishi'n reply :
Never...On 7/3/2013 at 1:27 AM, SirSnookalot said:Glad it doesn't happen on Bass resource.
gr8outdoorz reply :
My biggest pet peeve of the Outdoor Network is that its 99.99% hunting shows and 0.01% fishing shows!!!
*Hootie reply :
1. Roland Martin's.......Oh Son!!
2. Jimmy Houston's constant...... Yuck! Yuck!!
3. Iconnelli's temper tantrums.....
4. And last but not least......Why does Zona have to kiss everybody?........eewwww!!
Hootie
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 7/3/2013 at 4:20 AM, hootiebenji said:1. Roland Martin's.......Oh Son!!
2. Jimmy Houston's constant...... Yuck! Yuck!!
3. Iconnelli's temper tantrums.....
4. And last but not least......Why does Zona have to kiss everybody?........eewwww!!
Hootie
I cringe when a pro throws $300+ rod&reel setup in the water.. I have seen Ike do it several times
derekxec reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 1:35 PM, prjavelin said:I hate when the host of the show is not even decent at fishing and they are there because they know how to be on camera. Example: JP de rose, tim horton etc etc.
When will anyone be smart enough to give a show to a guy like brent ehler or shaw grisby. these guys are so likeable and very smart and they dont have a show.
shaw grigsby does have a show....is called "one more cast with shaw grigsby"
prjavelin reply :
On 7/3/2013 at 11:00 AM, derekxec said:shaw grigsby does have a show....is called "one more cast with shaw grigsby"
NO FN WAY.. WHAT CHANNEL/TIME??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Kevin22 reply :
Its' on the sportsman channel
http://www.thesportsmanchannel.com/programming/descriptions/description.php?ID=402
http://www.shawgrigsby.com/
Jack Fate reply :
On 6/29/2013 at 1:35 PM, prjavelin said:I hate when the host of the show is not even decent at fishing and they are there because they know how to be on camera. Example: JP de rose, tim horton etc etc.
When will anyone be smart enough to give a show to a guy like brent ehler or shaw grisby. these guys are so likeable and very smart and they dont have a show.
I have to disagree on putting Tim Horton in that group. His shows are always filled with tips and techniques and he makes it easy to understand. Also, if he wasn't decent at fishing how would he have won AOY?
Jack Fate reply :
On 7/1/2013 at 6:33 PM, Bankbeater said:I can't stand the way they edit out all the fishing mishaps and problems that occur while fishing. They make everything look like all you have to do is drop your bait in the water and you will catch fish. Just once I would like to see someone hang up or have a reel break on them.
Check out this then LOL
Bill Dance Bloopers
http://youtu.be/bROPwoTXtT4
coryn h. fishowl reply :
On 7/1/2013 at 6:33 PM, Bankbeater said:I can't stand the way they edit out all the fishing mishaps and problems that occur while fishing. They make everything look like all you have to do is drop your bait in the water and you will catch fish. Just once I would like to see someone hang up or have a reel break on them.
Mark zona has an entire segment of his show called train wrecks dedicated 2 showing his screw-ups.
prjavelin reply :
On 7/3/2013 at 12:29 PM, Jack Fate said:I have to disagree on putting Tim Horton in that group. His shows are always filled with tips and techniques and he makes it easy to understand. Also, if he wasn't decent at fishing how would he have won AOY?
13 years ago? it seems to me like he hasnt adjusted to the times. he names his weakness as low weight tournament, meaning when the bite is tough I stink. I dont mean to say he is completely terrible, Im just saying he is not an elite angler and by elite I mean part of that top 25 fishermen that consistently get in the top of their leagues. I also believe that there are a lot of people more capable than him with better capabilities/technique but they probably arent great on camera or they dont want to constantly be on camera. I can also understand that the tv show could be cutting his practice and research time for the elite series making his performance suffer.
JP de rose is an awful tournament fisherman. His new show is a little better, his old one was completely a plug to their sponsors.
Dave mercer is also another guy that hasnt accomplished anything as an angler. His show is also a big plug for shimano, livetarget and a couple other brands.
Scott martin is awesome but his show is more about competing and bragging. I like when he is not in Florida. Its just the way the program runs is not that great.
If Ike wasnt constantly plugging his sponsors he could make a great show. Also believe someone like Ehler would make the best kind of show and he is a top 5 angler in my opinion.
basseditor reply :
I did some shows for a few years, it's hard work. After long stretches of no fish, camera man sits down, then I'd hook up. LOL, he missed the best action.
Actually, we did some great shows and lots of big fish. That was when studio equipment was on mainframes. It was very expensive. It is much less now, other than the travel.
So, I think many of the shows are OK, but I get bored watching. That is the issue, it's hard to build a story line or drama when you depend upon a pea-sized-brained critter as your subject.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 7/3/2013 at 12:29 PM, Jack Fate said:I have to disagree on putting Tim Horton in that group. His shows are always filled with tips and techniques and he makes it easy to understand. Also, if he wasn't decent at fishing how would he have won AOY?
Th only tips I have got from Tim Horton is to sharpen my trolling motor blade- useless, and to sharpen the bills of my crankbaits- not too important....
He doesn't give tips about catching fish
ww2farmer reply :
I don't hate any fishing shows (except Charlie Moore), they all serve a purpose. Roland Martins job is to name drop and hock products, and he does it. That being said, I only watch shows I like, very few don't try to sell you something, but if you can sell, teach AND entertain me, I'll watch. The shows on my DVR are: Zona's AFS, Mercers "Facts of Fishing", The Bass Pro's, Lindners Angling edge, Hook and Look, Strike King Pro Team Journal, Bassmaster, PAA, and FLW tournament shows, Scott Martin challenge, and In-fisherman. If I am vegging out and flipping channels, I will watch Roland Martin, Bill Dance, Shaw Grigsby, Jimmy Houston and Hank Parker if they are on just for old times sake. I avoid Fishing university, Charlie Moore, and anything salt water related as I just have no interest.
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
Charlie Moore catches a few fish or none cause he doesn't know what he's doing, then he eats food at a expensive restaurant , smokes a expensive cigar and drinks fancy wine... How is it even a tv show??
Nice_Bass reply :
On 7/3/2013 at 9:42 PM, ww2farmer said:I don't hate any fishing shows (except Charlie Moore), they all serve a purpose. Roland Martins job is to name drop and hock products, and he does it. That being said, I only watch shows I like, very few don't try to sell you something, but if you can sell, teach AND entertain me, I'll watch. The shows on my DVR are: Zona's AFS, Mercers "Facts of Fishing", The Bass Pro's, Lindners Angling edge, Hook and Look, Strike King Pro Team Journal, Bassmaster, PAA, and FLW tournament shows, Scott Martin challenge, and In-fisherman. If I am vegging out and flipping channels, I will watch Roland Martin, Bill Dance, Shaw Grigsby, Jimmy Houston and Hank Parker if they are on just for old times sake. I avoid Fishing university, Charlie Moore, and anything salt water related as I just have no interest.
forgot about some of those- hook n look, bass pros actually is alright as well. I guess I just have to whole heartily agree with what you stated.
haydenf96 reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 12:03 AM, Crankenstein said:Charlie Moore catches a few fish or none cause he doesn't know what he's doing, then he eats food at a expensive restaurant , smokes a expensive cigar and drinks fancy wine... How is it even a tv show??
When I was in MA he had a local show before it was a national show.. Just as bad as it is now
Fishes in trees reply :
You mean you can't hunt and shoot things from a vehicle. Why not? That always struck me as kind of like trolling, and trolling is legal, right?
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