How common are shad in "neighborhood lakes"? 2024
gotarheelz14 reply :
Hey guys,
I was fishing today in my local neighborhood lake. I knew there were bass, crappie, catfish and bluegill but I had no idea there were shad in there! I was ultra light fishing for some crappie today when I felt something hit my line. I set the hook immediately and pulled out this guy...
I always thought shad were fish found in well planned out and established reservoirs. So, it's kind of shocking to me that the people who stocked the lake did such a thorough job.
So, what's the deal with shad? Are they pretty common to be stocked into places or do you think this neighborhood lake may have just always natrally existed, so to speak...?
gotarheelz14 reply :
Hey guys,
I was fishing today in my local neighborhood lake. I knew there were bass, crappie, catfish and bluegill but I had no idea there were shad in there! I was ultra light fishing for some crappie today when I felt something hit my line. I set the hook immediately and pulled out this guy...
I always thought shad were fish found in well planned out and established reservoirs. So, it's kind of shocking to me that the people who stocked the lake did such a thorough job.
So, what's the deal with shad? Are they pretty common to be stocked into places or do you think this neighborhood lake may have just always natrally existed, so to speak...?
gotarheelz14 reply :
Hey guys,
I was fishing today in my local neighborhood lake. I knew there were bass, crappie, catfish and bluegill but I had no idea there were shad in there! I was ultra light fishing for some crappie today when I felt something hit my line. I set the hook immediately and pulled out this guy...
I always thought shad were fish found in well planned out and established reservoirs. So, it's kind of shocking to me that the people who stocked the lake did such a thorough job.
So, what's the deal with shad? Are they pretty common to be stocked into places or do you think this neighborhood lake may have just always natrally existed, so to speak...?
JamesH reply :
Another fishing enthusiast could of introduced them to help fatten up the bass or take pressure off of the bluegill and crappie. It could very possibly be a natural lake houses were built around. How big is it? Are there any streams running in or out of it? Is it there a dam?
JamesH reply :
Another fishing enthusiast could of introduced them to help fatten up the bass or take pressure off of the bluegill and crappie. It could very possibly be a natural lake houses were built around. How big is it? Are there any streams running in or out of it? Is it there a dam?
JamesH reply :
Another fishing enthusiast could of introduced them to help fatten up the bass or take pressure off of the bluegill and crappie. It could very possibly be a natural lake houses were built around. How big is it? Are there any streams running in or out of it? Is it there a dam?
Goose52 reply :
First - how did you get the fish through the ice .... ;D
I fish 11 small (4-201 acres) man-made lakes that are about 30 years old. No shad were ever stocked in these lakes that I know of until 2009 when 1,000 were stocked in a 48 acre lake. It's unknown if they managed to get a foothold in that lake or whether the bass and trout got them all the first year...
In general, it seems like most small private lakes work to get a balance of bass and smaller forage fish like "brim", perch, etc. Some add catfish. But I haven't read of any recommendations for adding shad to the mix. Maybe someone with experience in lakes management will chime in. You could also search the net on shad stocking and maybe the Pond Boss website has something on this topic.
In our lakes, over the past 30 years they have stocked LMB, SMB (which no one has seen since they were stocked!), channel cats, warmouth, bluegill, redear, white crappie, and yellow perch. Five of our eleven lakes are deep enough to support trout year-round so we have rainbows in those 5 lakes as well. From time to time, they stock some fathead minnows and the bass club recently raised about 600,000 fatheads in one of the golf-course ponds and then transplanted them to some of the lakes (I had some GREAT fishing just after that when the bass were in the shallows busting those fatheads!). BUT, over all this time, no real attempt to get shad started...
Goose52 reply :
First - how did you get the fish through the ice .... ;D
I fish 11 small (4-201 acres) man-made lakes that are about 30 years old. No shad were ever stocked in these lakes that I know of until 2009 when 1,000 were stocked in a 48 acre lake. It's unknown if they managed to get a foothold in that lake or whether the bass and trout got them all the first year...
In general, it seems like most small private lakes work to get a balance of bass and smaller forage fish like "brim", perch, etc. Some add catfish. But I haven't read of any recommendations for adding shad to the mix. Maybe someone with experience in lakes management will chime in. You could also search the net on shad stocking and maybe the Pond Boss website has something on this topic.
In our lakes, over the past 30 years they have stocked LMB, SMB (which no one has seen since they were stocked!), channel cats, warmouth, bluegill, redear, white crappie, and yellow perch. Five of our eleven lakes are deep enough to support trout year-round so we have rainbows in those 5 lakes as well. From time to time, they stock some fathead minnows and the bass club recently raised about 600,000 fatheads in one of the golf-course ponds and then transplanted them to some of the lakes (I had some GREAT fishing just after that when the bass were in the shallows busting those fatheads!). BUT, over all this time, no real attempt to get shad started...
Goose52 reply :
First - how did you get the fish through the ice .... ;D
I fish 11 small (4-201 acres) man-made lakes that are about 30 years old. No shad were ever stocked in these lakes that I know of until 2009 when 1,000 were stocked in a 48 acre lake. It's unknown if they managed to get a foothold in that lake or whether the bass and trout got them all the first year...
In general, it seems like most small private lakes work to get a balance of bass and smaller forage fish like "brim", perch, etc. Some add catfish. But I haven't read of any recommendations for adding shad to the mix. Maybe someone with experience in lakes management will chime in. You could also search the net on shad stocking and maybe the Pond Boss website has something on this topic.
In our lakes, over the past 30 years they have stocked LMB, SMB (which no one has seen since they were stocked!), channel cats, warmouth, bluegill, redear, white crappie, and yellow perch. Five of our eleven lakes are deep enough to support trout year-round so we have rainbows in those 5 lakes as well. From time to time, they stock some fathead minnows and the bass club recently raised about 600,000 fatheads in one of the golf-course ponds and then transplanted them to some of the lakes (I had some GREAT fishing just after that when the bass were in the shallows busting those fatheads!). BUT, over all this time, no real attempt to get shad started...
WRB reply :
Could be a gizzard shad, big threadfin shad or a blueback herring. If the small lake/pond freezes over, shad are not likely to survive; the herring can withstand colder water. More than likely bucket biologist at work.
WRB
WRB reply :
Could be a gizzard shad, big threadfin shad or a blueback herring. If the small lake/pond freezes over, shad are not likely to survive; the herring can withstand colder water. More than likely bucket biologist at work.
WRB
WRB reply :
Could be a gizzard shad, big threadfin shad or a blueback herring. If the small lake/pond freezes over, shad are not likely to survive; the herring can withstand colder water. More than likely bucket biologist at work.
WRB
senile1 reply :
I believe the native range of the Gizzard Shad extends to the Great Lakes so they can handle some cold as well. The Threadfin generally isn't found north of the Ohio River Valley and the southern portions of Missouri. Threadfin Shad have difficulty surviving in water temperatures equal to or less than the mid to lower 40s.
senile1 reply :
I believe the native range of the Gizzard Shad extends to the Great Lakes so they can handle some cold as well. The Threadfin generally isn't found north of the Ohio River Valley and the southern portions of Missouri. Threadfin Shad have difficulty surviving in water temperatures equal to or less than the mid to lower 40s.
senile1 reply :
I believe the native range of the Gizzard Shad extends to the Great Lakes so they can handle some cold as well. The Threadfin generally isn't found north of the Ohio River Valley and the southern portions of Missouri. Threadfin Shad have difficulty surviving in water temperatures equal to or less than the mid to lower 40s.
0119 reply :
Down here in south Fl. all the freshwater has saltwater fish in it. State biologists say wading birds get fish eggs on their feet/legs and introduce them into freshwaters they might fly to next. I never agreed with that notion but maybe......
0119 reply :
Down here in south Fl. all the freshwater has saltwater fish in it. State biologists say wading birds get fish eggs on their feet/legs and introduce them into freshwaters they might fly to next. I never agreed with that notion but maybe......
0119 reply :
Down here in south Fl. all the freshwater has saltwater fish in it. State biologists say wading birds get fish eggs on their feet/legs and introduce them into freshwaters they might fly to next. I never agreed with that notion but maybe......
brushhoggin reply :
looks like a threadfin to me but they look so similar
brushhoggin reply :
looks like a threadfin to me but they look so similar
brushhoggin reply :
looks like a threadfin to me but they look so similar
Nick reply :
My neighborhood pond is just 3 acres, but it has seen populations of shad come and go through the years. Either some were brought in by birds or a fisherman with live bait dumped some in. I was amazed two summers ago to see shad swirling the surface off shore in June being pounded by bass. All during that summer the pond bass acted like roaming reservoir bass and fed in the middle of the pond, a very unusal sight! Anyway, a hard winter with lots of ice must have killed off the last of them, and now the bass are back to roaming the banks. Lots of fun while it lasted, so yes, shad can populate small bodies of water.
Nick reply :
My neighborhood pond is just 3 acres, but it has seen populations of shad come and go through the years. Either some were brought in by birds or a fisherman with live bait dumped some in. I was amazed two summers ago to see shad swirling the surface off shore in June being pounded by bass. All during that summer the pond bass acted like roaming reservoir bass and fed in the middle of the pond, a very unusal sight! Anyway, a hard winter with lots of ice must have killed off the last of them, and now the bass are back to roaming the banks. Lots of fun while it lasted, so yes, shad can populate small bodies of water.
Nick reply :
My neighborhood pond is just 3 acres, but it has seen populations of shad come and go through the years. Either some were brought in by birds or a fisherman with live bait dumped some in. I was amazed two summers ago to see shad swirling the surface off shore in June being pounded by bass. All during that summer the pond bass acted like roaming reservoir bass and fed in the middle of the pond, a very unusal sight! Anyway, a hard winter with lots of ice must have killed off the last of them, and now the bass are back to roaming the banks. Lots of fun while it lasted, so yes, shad can populate small bodies of water.
J Francho reply :
There are several strip pits that have huge Am. Shad in them up here. Some are a foot long and pound or so.
J Francho reply :
There are several strip pits that have huge Am. Shad in them up here. Some are a foot long and pound or so.
J Francho reply :
There are several strip pits that have huge Am. Shad in them up here. Some are a foot long and pound or so.
WRB reply :
We have a run on American shad in the Sacramento river. The fly fishermen catch them for sport, on light tackle the shad jump like miniature tarpons. American shad can get to 10 to 12 lbs in the Sacramento river and believe they are transplants from the Hudson in NY.
Gizzard shad can get to be 5 lbs, usually they are smaller under a 1 lbs. Threadfin are smaller maybe 5" long and a little over 1 once. The shad pictured that started this thread looks to be about 8" long and that is why I believe it to be a Gizzard shad.
WRB
WRB reply :
We have a run on American shad in the Sacramento river. The fly fishermen catch them for sport, on light tackle the shad jump like miniature tarpons. American shad can get to 10 to 12 lbs in the Sacramento river and believe they are transplants from the Hudson in NY.
Gizzard shad can get to be 5 lbs, usually they are smaller under a 1 lbs. Threadfin are smaller maybe 5" long and a little over 1 once. The shad pictured that started this thread looks to be about 8" long and that is why I believe it to be a Gizzard shad.
WRB
WRB reply :
We have a run on American shad in the Sacramento river. The fly fishermen catch them for sport, on light tackle the shad jump like miniature tarpons. American shad can get to 10 to 12 lbs in the Sacramento river and believe they are transplants from the Hudson in NY.
Gizzard shad can get to be 5 lbs, usually they are smaller under a 1 lbs. Threadfin are smaller maybe 5" long and a little over 1 once. The shad pictured that started this thread looks to be about 8" long and that is why I believe it to be a Gizzard shad.
WRB
tholmes reply :
There are threadfin shad in virtually all of the local lakes (abandoned gravel pits) around here. I don't know if they're native to the rivers, or if they were introduced somehow, but there is always a bunch of them that die off in the winter. Some must survive though, because they're always back the next spring.
Tom
tholmes reply :
There are threadfin shad in virtually all of the local lakes (abandoned gravel pits) around here. I don't know if they're native to the rivers, or if they were introduced somehow, but there is always a bunch of them that die off in the winter. Some must survive though, because they're always back the next spring.
Tom
tholmes reply :
There are threadfin shad in virtually all of the local lakes (abandoned gravel pits) around here. I don't know if they're native to the rivers, or if they were introduced somehow, but there is always a bunch of them that die off in the winter. Some must survive though, because they're always back the next spring.
Tom
Blue Streak reply :
It sure looks like a gizzard shad. Ther are tons of them around here and the winters don't bother them too much
Blue Streak reply :
It sure looks like a gizzard shad. Ther are tons of them around here and the winters don't bother them too much
Blue Streak reply :
It sure looks like a gizzard shad. Ther are tons of them around here and the winters don't bother them too much
Troutfisher reply :
This is a good thread, I've noticed this same type of thing in my area. Interesting stuff!
Troutfisher reply :
This is a good thread, I've noticed this same type of thing in my area. Interesting stuff!
Troutfisher reply :
This is a good thread, I've noticed this same type of thing in my area. Interesting stuff!
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