" Tiger Bass"...........? 2024
Topwaterspook reply :
I'm watching Bill Dance's show. He's referring to tiger bass. what the heck are they? They look and are colored like largemouth but appear to have broken vertical broken lines somewhat like smallies. Are these some kind of crossbreed?
MIbassin reply :
I believe it is a cross between Northern Strain and Florida Strain LMB, from what i have read they are usually used in private, well managed ponds due to their aggressiveness and how fast they put on weight.
Someone please correct me if i am wrong!
Chris at Tech reply :
Yeah, bass bred for aggressiveness and fast growth
WRB reply :
Definitely not integrates between FLMB and NLMB, undetectable from visual appreance with the exception of lateral line pore scale counts, plus F1's are not anymore or less aggressive than pure NLMB or FLMB.
What Dance may be referencing to is cross between Spotted bass and Smallmouth bass which can be natural hybrids when they share the same ecosystem. The spotted-smallmouth hybrid is useually referred to as a meanmouth bass.
Tom
BassinLou reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 6:02 AM, Chris at Tech said:Yeah, bass bred for aggressiveness and fast growth
Yes, ^^^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^^ I can't remember what magazine had an article on them. Some how this fish has the best qualities of FL LMB, and N LMB all put together. They are raised and bred in private lakes.
flyfisher reply :
http://www.strikeking.com/journal/00022/1.php
BassinLou reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 6:26 AM, flyfisher said:http://www.strikeking.com/journal/00022/1.php
Thank you, for finding that article.
Topwaterspook reply :
Ah it all makes sense now. ................I see TV hosts fishing in those tanks without ever seeing another fisherman or boat anywhere in site.
alberto-1 reply :
That confirms what Ive been told about those fish. I know they use them alot in private Texas lakes. That smallmouth/spot cross is hilariously aggressive but not what they are making with the F1.
MIbassin reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 6:14 AM, WRB said:Definitely not integrates between FLMB and NLMB, undetectable from visual appreance with the exception of lateral line pore scale counts, plus F1's are not anymore or less aggressive than pure NLMB or FLMB.
What Dance may be referencing to is cross between Spotted bass and Smallmouth bass which can be natural hybrids when they share the same ecosystem. The spotted-smallmouth hybrid is useually referred to as a meanmouth bass.
Tom
Huh, i read an article on pond management that included tiger bass. It said they were a cross between NLMB and FLMB
Catt reply :
Cross between NLMB & FLMB 
WRB reply :
F1's are integrates of pure Florida largemouth bass and pure Northern strain largemouth bass, common naturally in SoCal lakes for about 35 years now and the majority of the bass in our lakes today, including my avatar 19.3 lb mount.
The referenced article states that a Tiger bass is a aggressive NLMB and not FLMB-NLMB, they are called gorilla bass in the article, not Tiger bass.
Amazing that someone discovers a bass that is common and well known, then relabels the fish with a new catchy name like gorilla bass. Pure Florida LMB are catchable and no less aggressive than F1, they take more skill and finesse to catch on lures and for that reason anglers have a misconception about FLMB and F1's in general.
Tom
CWB reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 6:45 AM, Topwaterspook said:Ah it all makes sense now. ................I see TV hosts fishing in those tanks without ever seeing another fisherman or boat anywhere in site.
I have yet to see Bill Dance film a bass show on any body of water except his own private pond. As you said, never see another fisherman. I'd love to spend a day with him on that pond. He should run a contest and take the winner fishing!
AK-Jax86 reply :
I was watching that episode of Bill Dance as well few days ago
AK-Jax86 reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 8:20 AM, CWB said:I have yet to see Bill Dance film a bass show on any body of water except his own private pond. As you said, never see another fisherman. I'd love to spend a day with him on that pond. He should run a contest and take the winner fishing!
He probably figures if it ain't broke don't fix it lol
I was always wondering why he keeps catchin these HAWGS
flyfisher reply :
http://www.americansportfish.com
"The name “Tiger Bass” is actually a registered trademark of American Sport Fish Hatchery in Montgomery, Ala. This name refers to the specific cross developed at American Sport Fish, utilizing its strain of aggressive, pure northern largemouth bass bred with a strain of proven trophy Florida largemouth bass. The purpose of this particular breeding was to create a true F-1 bass that would be easy to catch and have a rapid growth rate."
MIbassin reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 9:19 AM, flyfisher said:http://www.americansportfish.com
"The name “Tiger Bass” is actually a registered trademark of American Sport Fish Hatchery in Montgomery, Ala. This name refers to the specific cross developed at American Sport Fish, utilizing its strain of aggressive, pure northern largemouth bass bred with a strain of proven trophy Florida largemouth bass. The purpose of this particular breeding was to create a true F-1 bass that would be easy to catch and have a rapid growth rate."
That's the article i read too
Catt reply :
Tiger Bass are a special (trademarked) type of F-1LMB.They are specially selected for size & aggression. Only American Sport Fish can sell them as they own the trademark & have selected the fish.
Gorilla Bass = agressive Northern strain
Tiger Bass = F1 - Gorilla x selected Florida LMB
Bluebasser86 reply :
A friend of mine lives on a private lake with tiger bass. They look just like largemouth but they grow fast and are super aggressive. For some reason, they're much more difficult to hook also.
WRB reply :
What you are saying is the first linked Strike King article posted eariler "The birth of super bass" is wrong. Tiger bass are the most aggressive northern strain bass they raised. Gorilla bass are FLMB-northern LMB F1.On 12/20/2013 at 11:50 AM, Catt said:Tiger Bass are a special (trademarked) type of F-1LMB.They are specially selected for size & aggression. Only American Sport Fish can sell them as they own the trademark & have selected the fish.
Gorilla Bass = agressive Northern strain
Tiger Bass = F1 - Gorilla x selected Florida LMB
No debate that the Tiger Bass is a Trademark of the hatuary you mentioned.
Certainly not going to get into a contest over F1 FLMB-NLMB integrates as I have caught thousands F1's over the past 35 years to have first experience of both aggressive F1' s and less aggressive F1's. When Tiger bass gets into wild environments it will spawn with other LMB and average out the gene pool.
Lakes with both pure NLMB and FLMB spawn every year producing F1's and out of several million fry some are naturally aggressive, most of these don't live too long, some do. As the years pass the gene pool becomes integrated, no pure strains, the aggressive get caught, the more wary survive.
Tom
Cryoglobin reply :
To be honest, I fished a place that has them. They seemed more aggressive only that they hit the lure a little harder. They still were highly disinterested in some baits and were not extremely interested in chasing when it was not their happy time. In the end, bass are bass and nothing is going to change that.
tomustang reply :
Make fish easier to catch? No thanks, I like the challenge.
Catt reply :
Sorry Tom but can argue with the Pond Boss Bob Lusk, that's from a letter he sent my buddy James R. Snider who put Tiger Bass in his pond.
Pretty sure Mr. Lusk's qualifications are a tad bit higher than yours.
flyfisher reply :
I think the bottom line is that a tiger bass is a straing of bass bred to be both agressive and grow quickly and uses both NLMB and the FLMB to acheive these characteristics. To me it is splitting hairs and is more of a marketing ploy and is something that happens naturally anyways where the populations intermix. There is a lake here in VA that htey stocked both types of bass in an effort to repopulate the lake. So while it wasn't tiger bass per se i can say that after 4-5 years of the lake being completley wiped out, the fish population is very healthy and i have caught numerous bass over 20" with the largest being 24".
roadwarrior reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 6:26 AM, flyfisher said:http://www.strikeking.com/journal/00022/1.php
That was great!
CWB reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 8:41 AM, AK-Jax86 said:He probably figures if it ain't broke don't fix it lol
I was always wondering why he keeps catchin these HAWGS
He's paid his dues and if I could afford it, I'd build and stock a pond like that too- and keep it all to myself. 
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 12/20/2013 at 2:05 PM, Cryoglobin said:To be honest, I fished a place that has them. They seemed more aggressive only that they hit the lure a little harder. They still were highly disinterested in some baits and were not extremely interested in chasing when it was not their happy time. In the end, bass are bass and nothing is going to change that.
That's a better description than I made. They are just as difficult to get to bite as an other bass, but when they decide to strike it is extremely aggressive. They were actually really selective the week I got to fish for them, but when they decided they wanted a bait, they destroyed it. Certainly were not easier to catch by any means, not in my experience anyways.
etommy28 reply :
Bill Dance fishes private stocked lakes, one I know he films on a lot is Bienville plantation in N FL
KyakR reply :
Flyfisher's article was amazing! There was a discussion fairly recently here about behavioral differences in bass species that also references the genetic aspect of aggressiveness, but this pulls it together for me. I enjoy watching Bill Dance too, except for all that x#@ fish-kissing.
flyfisher reply :
On 12/22/2013 at 11:37 PM, KyakR said:Flyfisher's article was amazing! There was a discussion fairly recently here about behavioral differences in bass species that also references the genetic aspect of aggressiveness, but this pulls it together for me. I enjoy watching Bill Dance too, except for all that x#@ fish-kissing.
i think you mean Jimmy Houston....he is the notorious fish kisser.
WRB reply :
I reread the two articles in this thread and will agree to disagree.On 12/20/2013 at 6:43 PM, Catt said:Sorry Tom but can argue with the Pond Boss Bob Lusk, that's from a letter he sent my buddy James R. Snider who put Tiger Bass in his pond.
Pretty sure Mr. Lusk's qualifications are a tad bit higher than yours.
Tiger bass are extremely aggressive northern strain bass breed. Gorilla bass are F1 hybrid between agressive tiger bass and aggressive pure Florids bass, according to the information posted. As I stated before CA has hundreds of lakes where pure strain Florida bass were stocked into lakes with pure strain of northern bass = F1. The fact pure FLMB are difficult to catch is true, but some of the more agressive can be caught on jigs, big worms and swimbaits. Take a look at Butch Browns vedio's, all pure FLMB or natural F1's.
Have a Merry Christmas and go catch some big tiger or gorilla bass, we could use more aggressive bass in our lakes.
Tom
KyakR reply :
My apologies to Bill Dance! Jimmy I'm a gunnin' for ya 
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