What's your favorite cold water flat sided CB 2024
TxHawgs reply :
Need to stock up on these type of baits. Anyone successful w the Spro little john in cold water. I lean towards the balsa baits but have many Spros. But yea need new baits in this category and like I said I like the balsa but if u got a plastic u smash em on let me know. Thanks guys!
Bluebasser86 reply :
Shad rap and Storm Smash Shad. The Bandit Flat Maxx has been good for me too.
TxHawgs reply :
On 12/6/2018 at 2:48 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Shad rap and Storm Smash Shad. The Bandit Flat Maxx has been good for me too.
Got the shad raps., heard the bandits were good also but forgot about them. Thanks man.
TOXIC reply :
I have never needed anything other than the original SPRO Little Johns. Cell Mate is my preferred color in the colder water. We tear up the smallmouth in the spring on assorted colors.
smalljaw67 reply :
Shad rap has been a staple but I've been really liking the Bagley Balsa Shad. Add to those I also like the Rapala DT-6, the DT Flat 7, and one of the most killer cold water cranks ever, the Bomber Deep Flat A, that is a producer when the water gets down below 50 degrees.
tander reply :
Bomber Flat A.
fishballer06 reply :
Shad Raps, DT's, and Wiggle Warts are my go to's. I've thrown the Little Johns and they're nice, but I have more confidence in the aforementioned baits.
A-Jay reply :
The 6th Sense Crush Flat 75X has been very good for me.
A-Jay
LonnieP reply :
SPRO little john is my favorite. Been catching a lot of bass with it.
fin reply :
I don't get what everyone sees in the little john. Someone gave me a used one recently and I can't get any depth out of it. Holding the rod tip down and cranking makes it run sideways. Everyone says that's a feature, not a bug. I don't get it. I've tried putting heavier hooks on it but it didn't help. Is there some trick to it?
scaleface reply :
On 12/6/2018 at 10:12 PM, Hank. said:I don't get what everyone sees in the little john. Someone gave me a used one recently and I can't get any depth out of it. Holding the rod tip down and cranking makes it run sideways. Everyone says that's a feature, not a bug. I don't get it. I've tried putting heavier hooks on it but it didn't help. Is there some trick to it?
Maybe thats why someone gave it away . I've never used one .
A-Jay reply :
On 12/6/2018 at 10:12 PM, Hank. said:I don't get what everyone sees in the little john. Someone gave me a used one recently and I can't get any depth out of it. Holding the rod tip down and cranking makes it run sideways. Everyone says that's a feature, not a bug. I don't get it. I've tried putting heavier hooks on it but it didn't help. Is there some trick to it?
May need to 'tune' it ~
https://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/tune-fix-crankbait.html
https://1source.basspro.com/index.php/all-videos/109-bass-pro-shops-1source/video/1740-kvd-shows-you-how-to-super-tune-a-crankbait
A-Jay
fin reply :
I haven't tried that. I'll give it a shot, but I thought the little john is supposed to "hunt" or "walk" or whatever.
LonnieP reply :
On 12/6/2018 at 10:58 PM, Hank. said:I haven't tried that. I'll give it a shot, but I thought the little john is supposed to "hunt" or "walk" or whatever.
No the other SPRO squarebills are designed to hunt. Not the little john. Something's wrong with it if it's running sideways, like others have suggested try tuning it. The little john has been my best producing lure I've used this fall.
BassNJake reply :
The rapala DT 7 is my go to flat sided crank.
I stocked up on a bunch before they were discontinued.
I always seem to catch an early season walleye or 2 with them as well.
My wife likes that.
Columbia Craw reply :
Luhr Jensen Speed Trap is hard to beat in my book.
Spankey reply :
I believe Strike King has a flat version also. Most likely some KVD Flat Side.
WRB reply :
Can't get much flatter than a lipless crankbait and the sinking models can be vertically jigged. Diving crankbaits in cold water, my choice is wide wobble lure digging up mud.
Tom
ItsHardwick reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 1:57 AM, Spankey said:I believe Strike King has a flat version also. Most likely some KVD Flat Side.
KVD flat 1.5. I just bought a couple of these during the Black Friday sales to give a try.
TOXIC reply :
On 12/6/2018 at 10:12 PM, Hank. said:I don't get what everyone sees in the little john. Someone gave me a used one recently and I can't get any depth out of it. Holding the rod tip down and cranking makes it run sideways. Everyone says that's a feature, not a bug. I don't get it. I've tried putting heavier hooks on it but it didn't help. Is there some trick to it?
How deep are you trying to get it to run? 4 to 5 ft is about the max depending on your line choice. What's your retrieve speed? If you are cranking it hard to get it to dive beyond its designed depth, it will roll. Most all flatsides are a slow retrieve and the SPRO is no different. Designed to give a lot of wobble with a slow retrieve = a good cold water bait.
Spankey reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 2:52 AM, ItsHardwick said:KVD flat 1.5. I just bought a couple of these during the Black Friday sales to give a try.
I fish a couple of Shad Rap type versions. Very productive all season. Never really considered them flat sides. Can’t get much flatter on the sides than a Rat-L-Trap and I love throwing them. Can’t say I’m into throwing many lipped with flat sides on them.
iabass8 reply :
Original D-Bait, WEC mutt and wobbler are about the only ones I use in cold water. If I get my hands on my jawjacker flats I'll add them to the list. MB Sonic side if I'm fishing around rock.
fin reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 3:00 AM, TOXIC said:How deep are you trying to get it to run? 4 to 5 ft is about the max depending on your line choice. What's your retrieve speed? If you are cranking it hard to get it to dive beyond its designed depth, it will roll. Most all flatsides are a slow retrieve and the SPRO is no different. Designed to give a lot of wobble with a slow retrieve = a good cold water bait.
After tuning it's diving down now. It was only running 1-2 feet before. It's weird because the line tie looks crooked now and it was straight before.
It still sits funny, like it's heavy in the tail and the lip is pointing almost upwards. I've already got a smaller hook on the tail and a heavier one in front trying to get the nose down so it would dive. I'm going to have to monkey with it some more.
ItsHardwick reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 3:58 AM, Spankey said:I fish a couple of Shad Rap type versions. Very productive all season. Never really considered them flat sides. Can’t get much flatter on the sides than a Rat-L-Trap and I love throwing them. Can’t say I’m into throwing many lipped with flat sides on them.
Yeah I’ve never really thrown them either, however I’ve never really fished all winter before either. As I plan to this year I figured I better stock up on some of the so called “cold water” baits.
Swbass15 reply :
Best crank I have had success with in cold water is lucky strike freak. Not a flat sided bait by any means but has produced. The only flat I have is the KVD 1.5, and it has produced better in the summer go figure.
Spankey reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 10:26 AM, Swbass15 said:Best crank I have had success with in cold water is lucky strike freak. Not a flat sided bait by any means but has produced. The only flat I have is the KVD 1.5, and it has produced better in the summer go figure.
I’m not quite sure of the rational of flat sides and cold water. All Cold water is not created equal. I’m in the north east. My winter cold water has got to be different than that of a St. John’s River guy.
Brock_v reply :
The 6th sense flat 75 is a killer I crank a ton in cold water and that's one of my favorite baits
Spankey reply :
On 12/8/2018 at 12:22 AM, Brock_v said:The 6th sense flat 75 is a killer I crank a ton in cold water and that's one of my favorite baits
What is cold water to you? Not having to be exact where are you fishing this cold water?
Im trying to make this association between cold water and flat sided baits.
On 12/8/2018 at 4:39 AM, Spankey said:What is cold water to you? Not having to be exact where are you fishing this cold water?
Im trying to make this association between cold water and flat sided baits.
Thanks if you reply. Down right cold up here in the North East.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
Flat 75 gets choked
papajoe222 reply :
Bill Norman Thin N, for shallow presentations and the Bomber Deep Flat A for deeper. The SK flat 1.5's lip is too wide for the tight wobble I prefer and the Livingston, although I do like them, are just a little pricey for my budget.
Swbass15 reply :
On 12/7/2018 at 8:56 PM, Spankey said:I’m not quite sure of the rational of flat sides and cold water. All Cold water is not created equal. I’m in the north east. My winter cold water has got to be different than that of a St. John’s River guy.
Cold water here would be around 42. So deff not cold as our friends from the north.
Tizi reply :
6th Sense 75X
Fishingmickey reply :
Rapala Shad rap for me. Size 5 or 7 in the original silver with black back.
FM
ChrisD46 reply :
Great topic as flat sided , billed crank baits are a category unto themselves for sure ...
TxHawgs reply :
Thanks for the replies guys. Have most of the baits listed. Gonna have to pick up a few. I'm into the balsa flat custom baits. Threw the trap this last wk in TX water was 52 but wasn't happening, caught em on the jerkbait. I was throwing the MB 110 and my buddy was smokin me w the Rapala x rap lmao.
Heartland reply :
I like the bomber fat free series of baits, some of the original poes were good, Spro made a crankbait called a prime 2.5, bandit had some good baits as well.
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