Let me start off by saying I am big into trying new techniques and baits. I was hesitant to try the ned rig because it seemed very close to using the spot remover with a finesse worm, but the ole bait monkey got the best of me and made me buy some red and green pumpkin shroom heads in 1/10 oz and a package of mud minnow and green pumpkin TRD worms. I figured I had nothing to lose when trying it for the $18 it costed. I then got slapped by the bait monkey again and decided I needed a rod and reel for that rig specifically. There went another $156 for a Phenix Maxim 6'11" ML spinning rod and a Lews speed spool reel.
Everything came in Friday and I couldn't wait to see what the fuss was about. I got a call late Saturday to go to the local lake on a boat (I normally bank bang). Get out at sunrise and fished it on and off for 3 hours looking for largies. Not a bite . Today I went to the biggest river in the state which is packed with smallies and decided to try it again. First cast SLAM caught a 12"er. Decided that was a start. Next cast another one about the same size. I ended up catching 23 fish anywhere from 8" to 17". Then I ran out of shroom heads because the river is so rocky I would lose one every 5th or so cast.
I am a believer in the ned rig now and it is my new confidence bait. The hardest part is all the 1/10 oz size heads are sold out on TW and I need MORE. Any recommendations on where to get some that are in stock somewhere? My local Cabelas and Sportsmans Warehouse don't have them.
I will see if I can get the photos to upload also.
You can order them direct from Z-Man via their website, or use one of the many similar style jigheads from Outkast (TW), BPS, Gopher, etc. Just order the 3/32nd to match the 1/10. If you can't get that, go 1/16th (a little lighter might lessen snagging), or 1/8th (a little heavier but very close to your 1/10ths).
-T9
The 1/10th seems very hard to find. I use the VMC Half Moon heads in 1/16, they seem to be everywhere and are pretty inexpensive. They work like a charm. Like you I am now a believer in the Ned Rig. Every other cast I was bringing in a dink or a slob.
Wow, thats awesome.
Alright that's it time to listen to the bait monkey and common sense and try this out.
I will try some of the other heads and see how they work. Thanks for the input guys. It was hard to believe it would work like that. I will never run out of heads or TRD's again.
Agree about the hang ups with the Ned Rig. I havent given it fair try yet either
I also tried the Ned rig last Friday and caught 11 LMB's. Smallest was 13", largest was 19". Not a bad day and Ned's are definately something I'll keep on hand for now on. The bait keeper on the hook combined with their elaztech worms works extremely well. I think one worm could catch 100 fish. Only thing I'd really like to see is a weedless version.
Alright d@mmit!!! I've had enough of all this speak of hammering bass on this mysterious new rig and not trying it myself!!
The problem is that when I do a search for it, I get a bunch of threads like this one but I cant find one with details on the rig itself and methods of fishing it. Can someone post a link to a post with some info on it?
On 5/13/2015 at 3:16 AM, Shockwave said:Alright d@mmit!!! I've had enough of all this speak of hammering bass on this mysterious new rig and not trying it myself!!
The problem is that when I do a search for it, I get a bunch of threads like this one but I cant find one with details on the rig itself and methods of fishing it. Can someone post a link to a post with some info on it?
Hey Bear fan, let me help you out! Glenn just posted a great video about the Ned rig the other day. Hopefully this link works. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/ned-rig.html
Went again today used the spot remover heads in 1/8th oz with the TRD worms. Pre-frontal conditions and slammed the smallies. Nothing of major size biggest was 2lbs but every cast was a fish.
The TRD worms last forever too. I caught close to 25 fish on 1 worm.
I am NOT finding the genuine TRDs as tough. Mine tear up far too quick. I pulled one the other day to stretch it and oh my, that was NOT the thing to do. It pretty much fell apart quickly.
How are you guys fishing these, do you pull them steady. Slow, fast? Do you pump and let it fall?
I am experimenting with weedless, I gotta have weedless, there is too much stuff in the water. I am going to make a trip SOMEwhere that I can fish an open hook, lol.
Bass pro has them
http://www.basspro.com/ZMan-Finesse-ShroomZ-JigheadZ/product/1406110826564/
I just cast out and leave the bail open on the spinning rod and let it hit bottom (if it gets the chance to). Once it does I let it sit for a second then do just a quick pop of the rod tip and the key to it is leaving a little slack line to let the bait stand upright. I just adjust the how often i jump it according to how the fish want it.
I have yet to have a day where I threw a Ned and didn't get bit.
Z-Man said they're coming out with a weedless ShroomZ head this summer. Can't wait to be able to throw it into cover without cringing.
Going to Lake Murray tomorrow, plan on pitching these under docks, hopefully I'll have a good report for y'all tomorrow.
On 5/13/2015 at 5:16 AM, Steveo-1969 said:Hey Bear fan, let me help you out! Glenn just posted a great video about the Ned rig the other day. Hopefully this link works. http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-videos/ned-rig.html
Thanks a bunch my friend!!
I guess this is what I get for waiting so long to jump on the bandwagon. The Z man TRDs and Shroom heads are on backorder everywhere! . No Ned rig for me till the end of May.
Alright I read enough about snagging neds....the shroomz are nice, but they need to make one with a light weed guard. Until they do that, go get a pack of Owner finesse ballhead/ewg 1/16oz #1 hook. Texpose it or bury the point and throw it anywhere you want. Canada craw has been my #1 color for smallmouth.
Shockwave, you do not have to toss the Shroomz heads. Any 1/16-1/8 heads will work.
The NED rig??
It's a weighted jig head on a hook with a grub or other plastics.
I have the heads in weedless and plain hooks for decades. Now it's a Ned rig? Please tell me it's not so.
On 5/26/2015 at 7:43 AM, bigbill said:The NED rig??
It's a weighted jig head on a hook with a grub or other plastics.
I have the heads in weedless and plain hooks for decades. Now it's a Ned rig? Please tell me it's not so.
Hate to be the one to break the news, but I'm afraid it is so. Even says it's the NED rig right on the package...Won't beat the crowd, so you might as well join them
-T9
Since Sunday fishing was slow I threw a 3" Senko on a 1/16 oz Gopher mushroomhead with a # 6 jig hook and caught about 20 bass in the last hour , most were small but I did stick a few decent ones and had a 4lber jump off . I've thrown this for a few years before the publicized Ned RIG and apparently the fish didn't get the memo that it needs to be a TRD plastic . Another good one to try on a jigworm which is basically what a NED Rig is a 4" finesse worm or a Smallie Beaver by Reaction Innovations. The jig worm has been used for decades and when paired with small soft plastics usually produce numbers of fish on most occasions along with an occasional big one . Glad to see people catch fish on the Ned Rig and while I have no doubt it catches fish very well I see nothing innovative about it .
I seen this type of rig used in the open weed pockets with a 2" yellow grub pull out bass from every open hole.
On 5/26/2015 at 8:17 AM, Team9nine said:Hate to be the one to break the news, but I'm afraid it is so. Even says it's the NED rig right on the package...Won't beat the crowd, so you might as well join them
-T9
Lol, The original split shot rig we used with a smelled #2hook threaded through a black plastic worm in 1970's has been redirected often but no new rig name yet. Lol
On 5/26/2015 at 8:05 PM, Primus said:Since Sunday fishing was slow I threw a 3" Senko on a 1/16 oz Gopher mushroomhead with a # 6 jig hook and caught about 20 bass in the last hour , most were small but I did stick a few decent ones and had a 4lber jump off . I've thrown this for a few years before the publicized Ned RIG and apparently the fish didn't get the memo that it needs to be a TRD plastic . Another good one to try on a jigworm which is basically what a NED Rig is a 4" finesse worm or a Smallie Beaver by Reaction Innovations. The jig worm has been used for decades and when paired with small soft plastics usually produce numbers of fish on most occasions. Glad to see people catch fish on the Ned Rig and while I have no doubt it catches fish very well I see nothing innovative about it .
On 5/26/2015 at 11:07 PM, bigbill said:Lol, The original split shot rig we used with a smelled #2hook threaded through a black plastic worm in 1970's has been redirected often but no new rig name yet. Lol
No new name because nobody throws or promotes the split shot rig anymore. If you wrote a few articles on it for your local newspaper, then did a few more for In-Fisherman, Bassmaster, or some other national mag, maybe even post a YouTube video or two, we might have a new rig - the "Big Bill" Rig. Just think about all those striped bass anglers who threw a fit when someone "invented" the Alabama Rig - LOL.
Seriously though, there is nothing new or innovative about the technique (Ned Rig). Ned would be the first to tell you this, I imagine, and anyone who says otherwise is new to the game (IMHO). Unfortunately, so many people have jumped on this bandwagon that the original concept and specifics have been lost to the masses, and the marketing. If anybody took the time to do a little digging, they'd find the truth, and everything would then be clear.
-T9
Good post Team9Nine, the hype machine is getting out of hand as if this were the new Senko . Put almost any small soft plastic on a light jighead and bingo you can catch numbers of fish .
There is nothing new under the sun.
Before I started researching this "new" Ned Rig recently I thought maybe it was something truly innovative...but it's not.
Here's a personal example of something remotely similar but nothing to do with the N-Rig:
I once thought that fishing with "bobbers" that were shaped like small sticks and weighted with shot so that only the tiny red tip is above water was innovative, nearly tried to sell my homemade bobbers as the "CeeJay Fun Float" (kidding about that last part )...but it turned out that anglers in Europe had been using these sensitive floats for decades before I was born.
(I do still make them though, out of balsa or quill, as it's impossible to miss a strike on waggler floats compared to round bobbers)
Nothing new under the sun.
You guys are all right, it's nothing new, nothing to be excited about. Move along, nothing to see here, don't even bother trying it, it only catches small fish anyways.
It's not just a bait, it's the whole style of fishing it that is different. I'd be really happy if everyone did just ignore it and move onto the next big thing.
On 5/27/2015 at 1:52 PM, Bluebasser86 said:
It's not just a bait, it's the whole style of fishing it that is different.
Bingo! This is what most everyone who wants to jump on the bait's bandwagon is missing. Not just a bait - a system; an approach; a mindset.
-T9
I didn't understand how the ned rig was anything different at first. Then I learned that the Elaz tech baits float after the salt dissolves, and also become very life like and quiver constantly (not to mention the fact that they are indestructible). Putting half of a senko will catch some fish but if you want to see the effectiveness of the bed rig you need to use the z man baits. The way the bait falls is the reason it is so deadly.
This bait is far from the tried and true smoke curly tail grub on a jighead. It is definitely unique.
Winkiedoodles on YouTube is my source for ned rig info
But the split shot worm rig has probably caught more bass than all the other rigs. It's the 30-30 of the fishing world still popular. For me it's one of my old faithfuls.
I was fishing a popular lake from shore a large man made lake with running current(dammed river). I tossed a split shot rig and thought I hit a log. The next cast a 3 1/2lb bass was landed. It was quick action. The black rubber 6" creme worm has stood the test of time for decades since the last century.
Each bait or style of fishing we master is a plus in our success on a tough day. We need more skills in our arsenal to stay on the top of our game.
The NED RIG ill make some up.
On 5/27/2015 at 9:40 PM, Team9nine said:Bingo! This is what most everyone who wants to jump on the bait's bandwagon is missing. Not just a bait - a system; an approach; a mindset.
-T9
I caught 20 fish in an hour the other day on a 3" Senko with a 1/16 oz jighead , not the first time I've done that . Maybe the Ned rig floats more but the small Senko rigged the way I fish it falls with a nice death spiral . The Senko cast very far for a small bait because of the heavy salt content . I am not disputing the effectiveness of the Ned rig but I am confident that I can produce similar results with other finesse plastics . Again, I find nothing new about the approach as well . That said I can see that it has it's believers and they are catching fish with it so I 'm glad for them . This will be my last post on the subject but let's just say we will have to agree to disagree regarding this being some innovative approach to fishing .
On 5/13/2015 at 9:46 AM, garvin said:I have yet to have a day where I threw a Ned and didn't get bit.
Z-Man said they're coming out with a weedless ShroomZ head this summer. Can't wait to be able to throw it into cover without cringing.
That's my hangup (no pun intended), I bank fish quite a bit and almost every body of water I fish is quite weedy, so until they're more weedless I'm holding off. I can just see myself getting hyper frustrated when every cast comes back with a bowl of salad and no fish.
On 5/27/2015 at 1:27 AM, Team9nine said:
Seriously though, there is nothing new or innovative about the technique (Ned Rig). Ned would be the first to tell you this, I imagine, and anyone who says otherwise is new to the game (IMHO). Unfortunately, so many people have jumped on this bandwagon that the original concept and specifics have been lost to the masses, and the marketing. If anybody took the time to do a little digging, they'd find the truth, and everything would then be clear.
-T9
On 5/28/2015 at 8:55 PM, Primus said:I caught 20 fish in an hour the other day on a 3" Senko with a 1/16 oz jighead , not the first time I've done that . Maybe the Ned rig floats more but the small Senko rigged the way I fish it falls with a nice death spiral . The Senko cast very far for a small bait because of the heavy salt content . I am not disputing the effectiveness of the Ned rig but I am confident that I can produce similar results with other finesse plastics . Again, I find nothing new about the approach as well . That said I can see that it has it's believers and they are catching fish with it so I 'm glad for them . This will be my last post on the subject but let's just say we will have to agree to disagree regarding this being some innovative approach to fishing .
Not much to add other than you either aren't reading all my posts on the topic, or you are failing to understand the point I've been trying to make. See one of my quoted posts above where I state it is not new or innovative. I'm agreeing with you. The Ned Rig is simply a resurrection or reincarnation of the simple approach and basic finesse methods and baits developed by Chuck Wood and a few others in the 1950s and 1960s in this country's heartland. It is more than a bait - it is an approach or style of fishing (Midwest Finesse) that simply takes advantage of some newer bait technology (for frugality and efficiency) along with Ned's added "101 bass" philosophy. Everybody keeps missing this point because they fail to research the history behind it. Instead, they all just want to focus on the "new", "hot" bait.
-T9
I guess I don't really get it. A Fat Ika with (or without a nail weight in the nose) fishes basically the same way and is way more snag resistant. The baits nose down the same, wriggle the same and catch the same numbers (that I have experienced). Ika snags less, TRD a little more durable (mend it with Ikas). Cost per unit is a bit cheaper for the Ikas.
On 5/29/2015 at 12:37 AM, webertime said:I guess I don't really get it. A Fat Ika with (or without a nail weight in the nose) fishes basically the same way and is way more snag resistant. The baits nose down the same, wriggle the same and catch the same numbers (that I have experienced). Ika snags less, TRD a little more durable (mend it with Ikas). Cost per unit is a bit cheaper for the Ikas.
I wouldn't make this comparison since the baits are different enough. Using this logic, I could then say that Ikas are pretty much tubes...tubes imitate craws...craws go on jigs...so small finesse jigs should catch the same as TRDs? The IKA has tentacles and has a significantly larger profile than the Ned rig.
At the end of the day, I think we are all agreeing on the same thing. The Ned rig is just another finesse tactic that catches a lot of fish...BECAUSE IT IS A FINESSE TACTIC. For what it's worth, I fished alongside someone fishing the TRD with 1/16 oz jig head last weekend and I smoked him with a 4.5" drop shot worm. Catch rate was 3:1 in favor of my drop shot.
On 5/13/2015 at 12:30 AM, riverbasser13 said:Alright that's it time to listen to the bait monkey and common sense and try this out.
I know, I have to. Never heard so much positive feedback concerning a bait. Seems like every single person who tries it becomes a huge fan.
Oh Ned Rig, How do I love thee? Let me count the ways. lol.
The Ned Rig has sort of replaced my Robo worms as my last resort thing to throw. If my regular stick baits and worms don't get any bites I would try a Robo worm. I figured if a bass does not bite a Robo worm then they are not biting. Now I tie on a little Ned Rig instead of the Robo worm.
The Ned Rig when used with a one of those Z-Man lures cut in half almost looks alive in the water. After making a few casts it becomes sort of slimy and looks alive, sort of like tubes do. I think the Ned Rig and tubes might share some characteristics. The Ned Rig is the tubes little brother.