Just saw these on Roboworms FB page. Not necessarily a game changer, but there color options would be welcome. Zmans colors are ok, but robos are much better.
Any one hear when these will hits places like TW? None of my local stores carry a large selection of roboworm products. DSG only has 3 or 4 colors of their standard worms. If these aren't released till next year it will really test my goal of not buying tackle next year;)
Wonder if they'll be able to catch over 100 fish per worm? Not sure if you ever will need any other colors than PB&J or green pumpkin for the Ned.
Most I catch is ten before I snag up. River fishing their colors are more about catching me lol, but on some clear water lakes it could be interesting. Also curious to see the profile, i have been favoring stickbaits that have a smaller diameter than a Senko or Zinkerz lately.
No, the plastisol Roboworm uses is very soft to simulate with hand pours, unless they have changed the plastic used.
Tom
Will they last long as zman, no. Will they catch fish yes. Ive cut the 6inch in half on the robos, and had good luck with it. Use as light as weighted jighead as possible is your situation, at that time.
On 10/17/2017 at 8:36 AM, WRB said:No, the plastisol Roboworm uses is very soft to simulate with hand pours, unless they have changed the plastic used.
Tom
This should mean that they will have a great action. I would guess durability depends how much salt they put in them. For the way I fish the rig no salt would be benificial and it might hold up a touch better too.
Didnt see a response about salt content on their fb post, a lot asked about it.
Roboworm doesn't use granular salt, they use dissolved salt solution.
Tom
PS, you can email Roboworm; mike@roboworm.com with your questions.
Color matters??
On 10/18/2017 at 2:38 AM, Comfortably Numb said:Color matters??
Not usually, but Roboworm has a reputation of producing some very productive colors. Their laminates rival many custom hand pours.
On 10/17/2017 at 8:32 AM, cgolf said:Most I catch is ten before I snag up. River fishing their colors are more about catching me lol, but on some clear water lakes it could be interesting. Also curious to see the profile, i have been favoring stickbaits that have a smaller diameter than a Senko or Zinkerz lately.
Check out the 4" finesse wormz, (I might suggest cutting a half inch or an inch off of it) it sounds like just why you are looking for. Crazy durable to, even more so than the zinkerz and TRD. I like it as much as the 2.5" zinkerz.
On 10/18/2017 at 2:46 AM, IndianaFinesse said:Check out the 4" finesse wormz, (I might suggest cutting a half inch or an inch off of it) it sounds like just why you are looking for. Crazy durable to, even more so than the zinkerz and TRD. I like it as much as the 2.5" zinkerz.
I actually have tried them and not done as well as the Zinkerz. One that has worked for me is an anglers choice wart hawg that is heavily salted and a bit smaller in diameter. I wonder though if it has more to do with the difference between how a salted bait and a floating bait like Zman swims or if I do pause it, sinks?
Plus lets be real here, a new bait for us tackle junkies to try;)
On 10/18/2017 at 2:38 AM, Comfortably Numb said:Color matters??
Depends on the lake/river. 90% of the waters I fish no it doesn't, but the clear water lake that we vacation on it sure does. Saying that on the river certain colors like pearl or black/blue do produce better than other colors.
On 10/18/2017 at 2:38 AM, Comfortably Numb said:Color matters??
I should have put a smiley after my statement as I was being sarcastic
True Roboworms' colors are awesome and I do believe that color has more influance on the Angler's confidence which is huge.
Did you notice in their write-up, they described their offering as the real deal (TRD).
Roboworms are my goto T-rig & drop shot worm, but unless they have changed their formula for this bait, I doubt I would use it for a Ned Rig. Regular Roboworms only float until they break the surface tension on the water, then they sink. I prefer the Elastic formula for a Ned rig because of its buoyancy and durability.
But I would still probably buy a pack...
On 10/18/2017 at 9:22 AM, OCdockskipper said:Did you notice in their write-up, they described their offering as the real deal (TRD).
They better hope that Zman doesn't see that. Zman trademarked that.
On 10/18/2017 at 10:00 AM, moguy1973 said:They better hope that Zman doesn't see that. Zman trademarked that.
I would give them a pass since Zoom borrowed their colors. I remember seeing roboworms comments when the Zoom brought those colors out. But your right Zman I believe does aggressively go after companies that get near their patents and probably trademarks.
Seems silly though to trademark catch phrases and would guess it would only apply in regards to fishing lures. Would think we could still say something like Aaron Rodgers was the real deal before this weekend without running afoul of Zman. Obvious sad Packer fan here.
I would definitely buy them Roboworm puts out great products and so what if you have to burn through a bag or two during a tournament I'd spend the $8 to cash a big check
On 10/18/2017 at 9:22 AM, OCdockskipper said:Did you notice in their write-up, they described their offering as the real deal (TRD).
Roboworms are my goto T-rig & drop shot worm, but unless they have changed their formula for this bait, I doubt I would use it for a Ned Rig. Regular Roboworms only float until they break the surface tension on the water, then they sink. I prefer the Elastic formula for a Ned rig because of its buoyancy and durability.
But I would still probably buy a pack...
I have given up on caring about durability, because I made the mistake of inventorying my soft plastics and relized that I now see low durability as a plus instead of a minus;)
On a serious note though I have found salted baits to work better at times, perhaps because the tail doesn't try to float up on a slow retrieve? I use both types of baits. The Zman kick butt on rivers for me because that floating bit seems to limit the jig stealing rock snags I had gotten used too.
Sounds like we won't have to wait too long. Sounds like they will be on TW for sure by Black Friday when I get to order my Christmas gifts, probably sooner.
On 10/18/2017 at 9:22 AM, OCdockskipper said:Regular Roboworms only float until they break the surface tension on the water, then they sink.
They float, after the salt has dissolved from the head of the worm. The tail always floats.
I am for sure going to buy too many of these things. I fish a DS and a Ned on the same combos, so having some plastics that will do double duty is irresistible. For some reason the Zman plastics have never produced for me on the dropshot, so maybe the Robos will work on the Ned.
On 10/19/2017 at 8:44 PM, J Francho said:
They float, after the salt has dissolved from the head of the worm. The tail always floats.
My experience has been different than yours, at least with the 4" & 6" regular (not Fat) models. I have had dozens, if not hundreds, of bass throw the Roboworm during a fight and once the worm breaks the surface tension of the water, it sinks. These are with worms that may have been used for an hour or more, if it takes longer than that for the salt to dissolve from the head, then that is why I haven't seen it.
There is an old thread where Catt has a picture of a bunch of Roboworms sitting at the bottom of a clear bowl. The entire worm is flat, the tail isn't floating up.
Any chance there are different formulas on different coasts?
On 10/20/2017 at 12:26 PM, OCdockskipper said:Any chance there are different formulas on different coasts?
No clue, but I've been able to reclaim many after drop shotting, and losing them. They initially sink, and then float. The salt solution is in the head, and not the tail. When that dissolves, they float. It's even documented on the packaging. You're thinking of Zoom Trick Worms in the bottom of the bucket.
I pick up floating Roboworms on the water nearly every outing where I fish. I don't know if it's lazy anglers loosing them after catching bass or just tossing them in the water when damaged. My point is they float.
Take a few used Roboworms and put them in your sink full of water over night, then you know.
Tom
Robos do float, but I feel like the different colors have a different buoyancy, with my limited experience being that the more transparent ones float better than the opaque and glitter-heavy ones.
A weightless 6" Robo on a 1/0 Rebarb hook will slowly settle to the bottom with the tail floating maybe an inch or so up. Once the salt is gone they float up at maybe a 30-45d angle.
On 10/20/2017 at 11:43 PM, WRB said:I pick up floating Roboworms on the water nearly every outing where I fish. I don't know if it's lazy anglers loosing them after catching bass or just tossing them in the water when damaged.
A fresh one will sometime shake loose with a fish, and sink. Once the salt dissolves, it float up. I've been to locked on a spot, I'll sometimes get a perfectly usable worm back.
On 10/21/2017 at 1:11 AM, J Francho said:A fresh one will sometime shake loose with a fish, and sink. Once the salt dissolves, it float up. I've been to locked on a spot, I'll sometimes get a perfectly usable worm back.
If the worm hasn't been in the water too long you see what colors are working.
Unlike hand pours and injection molded worms Roboworm doesn't use salt grains in worms or the packaging, it's dissolved salt molded into the plastic. It's heavy loaded salt in the plastic, like a Senko, or the heavier plastisol that causes worms to sink. Light oils, very light density plastic help the worms to float.
Roboworms don't float as good or as tough as the Z Mans, but they are very soft and have good colors so I think they will be very popular.
Tom
On 10/20/2017 at 8:37 PM, J Francho said:
No clue, but I've been able to reclaim many after drop shotting, and losing them. They initially sink, and then float. The salt solution is in the head, and not the tail. When that dissolves, they float...
This was bugging me, because I have had countless times of fighting a fish and trying to snag a sinking Roboworm shaken loose at the same time. Don't get me wrong, I am not suggesting that what you are saying is wrong, rather that my experience has been 100% the opposite of yours. So I grabbed a handful of used Roboworms (awaiting Mend-it repair) and put them in a bowl of water. All of mine sank, both the head & the tail and stayed there. The tail's never lifted up.
These were 4.5" & 6" regular Roboworms in Aarons Magic & Orange Crusher colors (if that makes a difference). They were all used for multiple casts, however I rigged them Texas style using Mister Twister keeper hooks. Maybe the wear and tear from Texas rigging them alters their floating capabilities compared to dropshotting.
I have also retrieved Roboworms after losing them, but in a different way. Once I had a smaller bass take 3 Roboworms off my hook before I finally caught him. When I got him to the boat, he coughed up the 3 worms he had stolen from me and I grabbed 2 of them before they could sink out of sight. Another time a buddy of mine caught a bass that was in the middle of pooping out an Orange Crusher worm he had apparently lost the week before.
On 10/21/2017 at 11:15 AM, OCdockskipper said:Another time a buddy of mine caught a bass that was in the middle of pooping out an Orange Crusher worm he had apparently lost the week before.
I want to know if he used that robo worm again, and if he did, did the post digestion worm work better than the non-digested variety?
On 10/21/2017 at 11:43 AM, IndianaFinesse said:I want to know if he used that robo worm again, and if he did, did the post digestion worm work better than the non-digested variety?
I believe he did, although it required some Mend-it. I don't recall if it was more or less effective after that, I was just amazed that the digestive juices of the fish really didn't alter the color or texture of the worm. I chalked it up to Roboworms being so thin & slick, it just slid right thru...
I’m not doubting you either, OC. I use Aaron’s Magic almost exclusively, but in smaller sizes. Maybe there’s a different formula for them?
If you've ever had a Zman TRD on your jig for a long time you will notice that it becomes rather spongy and flexible and floats like no other plastic.
I'd like the Ned Robo for a drop shot because of the colors. But I'll stick with the Zman forNed rigging, of which I've already caught thousands of bass on despite my previous aversion to elaztech plastic.
I got my hands on a pack of them in Green Pumpkin Black Flake and love them. just holding them, they are full of action. Going to be a good elaztech alternative
On 10/22/2017 at 10:04 PM, earthworm77 said:If you've ever had a Zman TRD on your jig for a long time you will notice that it becomes rather spongy and flexible and floats like no other plastic.
I'd like the Ned Robo for a drop shot because of the colors. But I'll stick with the Zman forNed rigging, of which I've already caught thousands of bass on despite my previous aversion to elaztech plastic.
I am not a fan of the TRD, for me they are no where's near as durable as a 1/2 Zinker or have the action. The TRDs seem to tear up near where hook comes out. I will use up the TRDs I have, but stick to the Zinkerz in the future.
I have started to like other baits for Ned rigging, and I don't have to worry about keeping a second box for elaztech baits. I am really excited about these baits, giving me a third Ned rig option.
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1854336981273368&id=272534349453647
This should answer some questions
I now own 256 of the beauties in 8 different colors. In my opinion; this will be the best Ned Worm ever created. I personally am not a huge fan of the TRD's so I spent a lot of time looking for "MY" Ned Bait; I am thinking this is the one. This fits perfectly with a Berkley Half Head 1/16 oz. jighead......LOVE IT! Stay tuned in 2018 for my full review on these baits once I have them on the water for a while.
On 12/21/2017 at 3:53 AM, PaBassMan13 said:I now own 256 of the beauties in 8 different colors. In my opinion; this will be the best Ned Worm ever created. I personally am not a huge fan of the TRD's so I spent a lot of time looking for "MY" Ned Bait; I am thinking this is the one. This fits perfectly with a Berkley Half Head 1/16 oz. jighead......LOVE IT! Stay tuned in 2018 for my full review on these baits once I have them on the water for a while.
I will be receiving the same combo on Sunday plus some Siebert Morels the next week. Can't wait to see what they look like. I think I went with 6 bags to try out.
On 10/17/2017 at 8:16 AM, moguy1973 said:Wonder if they'll be able to catch over 100 fish per worm? Not sure if you ever will need any other colors than PB&J or green pumpkin for the Ned.
I caught a LOT of fish with the black & blue flake TRD. Gotta mix that one into your rotation.
On 12/21/2017 at 3:59 AM, cgolf said:I will be receiving the same combo on Sunday plus some Siebert Morels the next week. Can't wait to see what they look like. I think I went with 6 bags to try out.
I started out with 16 packs in 4 different colors. Then I upped it and ordered 12 more packs in 4 other colors. I really like this bait. With the small #1 hook on the Berkley Half Heads it leaves a lot of bait after the hook. The bait is super soft and it should give a very nice action. In researching this bait online before purchasing I read numerous times where folks say that this bait will float/stand straight up as well. Not that I am 100% concerned about that because I used to use the BPS 3" Stik-O's which didn't stand up and I caught a ton of fish with those as well. The last bait I used was a 1/2 of a Missile Baits 48 worm which worked really well but once I found these new Roboworm baits I said goodbye to all of the others. I started out with the TRD's back in 2016 when they came out but I actually didn't like them a whole lot and sold all of them. Another thing I love about the Roboworms is the flat underside; that should give the bait a really nice gliding action on lighter jigheads. Roboworm has always made top quality baits and I think this new Ned Worm is well worthy of the Roboworm brand. I hope you and I both have MANY successes out on the water with these baits; I'm sure we will : )
The Roboworm Ned worm have outstanding colors. Picked up a few bags a month ago in Prisim shad, plan to drop shot or dart head jig them. It's so windy everyday 30-50 mph for the month and too smoky with the fires, plus Lake Casitas was closed due to the Thomas fire and haven't had a chance to fish them.
Tom