There's a body of water up here I have numerous tourneys at. Typically top water and jigs work well, I was thinking about trying this bait as none of the guys fish it. What line is recommended and what type of retrieve. Thanks
Are you talking about the Lunker Punker?
http://www.***.com/Black_Dog_Small_Shell_Cracker_G2_/descpage-BDSM.htmlOn 6/26/2014 at 10:56 AM, Hi Salenity said:Are you talking about the Lunker Punker?
Ok, I use 20# FC and steady retrieve
I have had success with the Cotton Candy Shell Cracker in clear water, rigged flat with a 1/8 oz keel weighted hook. (Rage Rig) I toss it out and let it fall on slack line. It spirals as it falls, like a dying fish. The bass can't resist it.
He's talking about the Black Dog not the Rage
I'm just thinking maybe a wake bait of some sorts, to alternate with spooks and poppers
Slow roll wake, pause, twitch, rinse repeat. Lube her up with Megastrike.
I use Pline CXX in the 20lb range for all swimbaits.
On 6/26/2014 at 11:33 AM, Hi Salenity said:He's talking about the Black Dog not the Rage
Brand name has nothing to do with technique, I've used Big Bite's WarMouth with great results.
On 6/26/2014 at 7:33 PM, Catt said:Brand name has nothing to do with technique, I've used Big Bite's WarMouth with great results.
LOL
This is the Black Dog Shell Cracker.
You might also check out the MS Slammer if you haven't already. The Mini or 7" are both great wake baits that can not only catch a kicker fish, but can fill a limit in the right conditions. Never fails to amaze me how many 15" (and even smaller), fish will smack my 7" Slammer.
20lb copolymer is what I toss most of my swimbaits on.
On 6/26/2014 at 8:00 PM, Bluebasser86 said:You might also check out the MS Slammer if you haven't already. The Mini or 7" are both great wake baits that can not only catch a kicker fish, but can fill a limit in the right conditions. Never fails to amaze me how many 15" (and even smaller), fish will smack my 7" Slammer.
20lb copolymer is what I toss most of my swimbaits on.
Thanks gonna check that out! No one, I mean NO ONE throws big stuff up here. If these work for me on this particular body of water I'll be a pig in $#!^. Last tourney I tanked and guy won with 5/5 11lbs... smfh
On 6/26/2014 at 8:00 PM, Bluebasser86 said:You might also check out the MS Slammer if you haven't already. The Mini or 7" are both great wake baits that can not only catch a kicker fish, but can fill a limit in the right conditions. Never fails to amaze me how many 15" (and even smaller), fish will smack my 7" Slammer.
20lb copolymer is what I toss most of my swimbaits on.
$80!!!!????? Holy expletive!
$80? For what?
On 6/26/2014 at 7:33 PM, Catt said:Brand name has nothing to do with technique, I've used Big Bite's WarMouth with great results.
Methinks you are doing it wrong.
You are just entering the world of swimbait fishing if you are surprised by a 80 dollar one my friend
A big F YOU directed at the bait monkey!!!! Lmao omg I saw the roman made baits. That's way out my price range. I have a bunch of $30 range plugs for surf fishing so I can't complain up to that price point. But $80 I can't see myself spending that. I just really want different top water options.On 6/27/2014 at 5:23 AM, IAY said:You are just entering the world of swimbait fishing if you are surprised by a 80 dollar one my friend
for a lure he mentionedOn 6/27/2014 at 3:45 AM, Mr_Scrogg said:$80? For what?
MS Slammers are ~$30-40.
On 6/27/2014 at 11:47 AM, dam0007 said:for a lure he mentioned
The $80 Slammer is 14" long and weighs 8 oz. You want the 7" or the Mini.
I actually paid $22 for an Ima Flit floating jerkbait once the same day I purchased a Flash Minnow as they were supposed to be Ready to fish and only dive 6"=1' with short trebles etc...I love fishing over submerged weeds with floating jerkbaits and I always test my lures in a pond near my house after modifying etc...
I still can see the Ima FLit in this awesome looking translucent color glowing and glistening across the pond in an area impossible to get to....That one hurt and I never would have attemped a cast across a pond with a lure like that but I had my new ballistic and I heard and saw a huge Bass Busting on some Shiners, and she was one of the fish over 7lbs, so I figured I had one cast or she was back hiding under 30 feet of cover......Loosened spool, put on long cast, made sure my backhand swing was safe from snags, and man does that Ima Flit cast like a champ.....landed a good 20 feet above the water and shore up in a tree. Those "Loaded Bearings" are actually for real and I was able to get a Red Fin in the same area after losing the lure, and worst of all, I ended up losing my favorite go to lure...Bomber Long a Gold Prism orange, all paint was gone, but that lure just had the it factor and flat out got bit...
Come to think of it...If I was in a tournament in Ct, I am fishing topwater or subsurface with a Bomber Long A in 15A size baby bass, chart or silver, firetiger, or the Chartruse silver and if day is bright and not windy, water is clear, fish the smaller 14a size in lighter color silver, or just go natural colors or anything with orange belly...let it spend alot of the day drifting on top and gently diving a few inches each twitch as I bet a few giants crush it while it is sitting while barely moving it....
If not a bomber, go with the Bableys Bang O lure, Yo-zuri crystal minnow if need some wild action, but if stained I throw the red fin all day and wake it and use big 7" or go to medium size if slapping it or missing...Bass are sick of seeing the same lures and I am convinced that a long a, red fin, xcalibuer ghost minnow, Rapala J11-13, Storm Twitch stick and bang o lures are the best all year except when you want the suspenders like rogue, spoonbills etc.
I also love the spook one knocker in wind, and yo-zuri prism walkingn lure if clear water, or sebile stick shad or team daiwa DC minnow....Hope that helps, all great lures I would neve leave home with. I actually have over 100 bombers in a box and that is just the floaters, and counting floating rogues, rapala, rebel etc..I carry 75% floating jerkbaits in summer and fall, and then jigs, chatterbaits, and plastics......and suspending sebile flatt shad which runs over Florida Toho Weeds like a champ.
As for the G2 shellcracker...I use heavy fluoro and I experiment with waking it very slowly on top and cranking it down and putting rod tip in water and smacking into brush and logs. It won't get hung up. The twitching retrieves doesn't work that we'll with g2 imo...I suggest you keep it moving.
On 6/27/2014 at 11:47 AM, dam0007 said:for a lure he mentioned
If you keep going down this path...It will eventually lead you there...Dark stuff indeed...xD
The wooden Black Dog shell cracker is $55 and excellent bluegill swimbait. The G2 shell cracker is plastic, smaller and $20.
Today's hot wake bait or surface is ABL Dirty Donkey, similar to the wooden original Lunker Punker, $57.
Tom
PS, always buy 2 or more!
Well if you want something different for topwater, you can look at the River2Sea Whopper Plopper....they run about $15 each.
The G2 is a great bait. Put your tip down, and burn it, and it will run sub surface. Keep your tip up, or slow roll it, and it wakes. I catch a lot of fish on that bait, and the jointed Lucky Craft Clunn waker. I too, throw it on 15 to 20 lb. P-line CXX.
On 6/26/2014 at 11:56 PM, dam0007 said:Thanks gonna check that out! No one, I mean NO ONE throws big stuff up here. If these work for me on this particular body of water I'll be a pig in $#!^. Last tourney I tanked and guy won with 5/5 11lbs... smfh
Very few throw big baits around here and I get looks and laughs all the time when I'm tossing big baits, and I'm just fine with that. I did a big bait seminar at a tournament last year while we were all waiting in the parking lot because of a fog delay. Someone spotted my 7" Slammer tied on a rod and asked if I was joking with that thing. I broke out my camera and big bait box and started showing them why they should be fishing them. A lot of the pictures were at a lake where everyone fishing shakyheads and drop shots all summer long, while I'm catching fish on a Slammer I caught one of our keepers that day on my Slammer and we ended up in 4th place for the weekend.
On 6/29/2014 at 2:12 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Very few throw big baits around here and I get looks and laughs all the time when I'm tossing big baits, and I'm just fine with that. I did a big bait seminar at a tournament last year while we were all waiting in the parking lot because of a fog delay. Someone spotted my 7" Slammer tied on a rod and asked if I was joking with that thing. I broke out my camera and big bait box and started showing them why they should be fishing them. A lot of the pictures were at a lake where everyone fishing shakyheads and drop shots all summer long, while I'm catching fish on a Slammer I caught one of our keepers that day on my Slammer and we ended up in 4th place for the weekend.
You needed the 9inch for first place.
On 6/30/2014 at 1:34 AM, gobig said:You needed the 9inch for first place.
Didn't have one at the time, no longer suffering from that deficiency
On 6/29/2014 at 2:12 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Very few throw big baits around here and I get looks and laughs all the time when I'm tossing big baits, and I'm just fine with that. I did a big bait seminar at a tournament last year while we were all waiting in the parking lot because of a fog delay. Someone spotted my 7" Slammer tied on a rod and asked if I was joking with that thing. I broke out my camera and big bait box and started showing them why they should be fishing them. A lot of the pictures were at a lake where everyone fishing shakyheads and drop shots all summer long, while I'm catching fish on a Slammer I caught one of our keepers that day on my Slammer and we ended up in 4th place for the weekend.
You'll learn to only show pics to folks that live halway across the country. LOL
What's the common color for shell cracker you guys use, or does it not matter?
I just bought a G2 in bluegill...going to try it out for the first time this weekend. It's really not that big of a bait at 4" long. From what I've read bass knock the crap out of it though...
Yeah, they do. My favorite color is Blue Craw. Stick that on a Rage Rig, and it's gonna happen.
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Kind of hard to put a hard bait on a worm hook. This thread is discussing the Black Dog G2 Shellcracker, not the Ragetail Shellcracker, which is also a great bait.
I use the redear...only because it was only one available. I like it though. I want the crappie color now.
Ok so placed my order today, went with the bluegill pattern, not the ghost one. Also took another recommendation and got a whopper plopper in monkey color. Had a slammer in cart but with everything else I ordered I had to cut some costs. Next time but thanks again everyone for all the info! The G2 is on back order so won't have it for awhile but all is good. Looking forward to it.
4 tourneys and 6 practice days later on said body of water. Too late... Stuff came in today. The cracker and plopper look great!
I'm heading to Champlajn Wednesday prob gonna bring these with me. So general consensus heavy rod, 30+# braid or 20# FC. Also gonna prob use same rod for soft body frogs. Sound good?
On 7/15/2014 at 8:26 AM, dam0007 said:4 tourneys and 6 practice days later on said body of water. Too late... Stuff came in today. The cracker and plopper look great!
I'm heading to Champlajn Wednesday prob gonna bring these with me. So general consensus heavy rod, 30+# braid or 20# FC. Also gonna prob use same rod for soft body frogs. Sound good?
Yup.