I am looking into trying these out. There are so many color choices, that I don't know which to pick. I catch well on this lake with other baits in pumpkin/chartreuse. How would you determine what color to go with?
I would just try to match the forage in your lake. I got the bluegill for where I fish. Ultimately, I think the profile is what really matters and not the color. The bottom of these things has a metal plate for stability weight to keep them in the correct orientation. The fish mainly just see the profile from below, especially if the sun is shining down on them.
Just get a frog, or better yet get two frogs for what that costs. Its a real gimmicky lure. I regret buying mine
On 7/1/2016 at 8:43 PM, d-camarena said:Just get a frog, or better yet get two frogs for what that costs. Its a real gimmicky lure. I regret buying mine
I remember remarking that this looks like a lure I could use for a year solid without a bite. A lot of Live target's baits look gimmicky to me. Here's a video of a guy using both frog and sunfish during several hours of the day.
So far I've only had mine out on one trip (going to do more) and I caught fish with it then. I like it. I wish they'd given more attention to detail on the underside instead of the top though. That's a big red flag for gimmicky-ness, but I don't think the lure is a gimmick.
FWIW ... I can walk the sunfish much easier than any other frog-ish bait I have thrown. I like it.
On 7/1/2016 at 9:15 PM, Felix77 said:FWIW ... I can walk the sunfish much easier than any other frog-ish bait I have thrown. I like it.
Same here, I can barely twitch it and it will do a 360, great bait for me.
I agree, the sunfish really walks alot easier for me. I do wish they would have put a little more effort into hiding the plain, silver, exposed balancing weight that sits on the bottom of the lure.
Ive had one tied on for a month now no hook ups but have gotten a few good blow ups.
very nice walking action. weedless like a frog. i like em! i bought 2. my buddy has been killing it on em!
On 7/1/2016 at 8:48 PM, the reel ess said:I remember remarking that this looks like a lure I could use for a year solid without a bite. A lot of Live target's baits look gimmicky to me. Here's a video of a guy using both frog and sunfish during several hours of the day.
I saw this! Very cool vid!
I understand how is falls into the gimmick category. I feel the same way about it. I turned my cheek to it the first time I had seen it in the store. But I have been fishing the sh** out of all kinds of different frogs, and can hardly even get a follow. I see plenty of fish in the froggy areas, and also plenty of sunfish. The other day, I witnessed several bass, BIG bass, attacking sunfish in the shallows. I've got to try it.
I too noticed that the top looks great, and is well detailed, while the bottom is rather featureless, and has that big ugly weight. I you get a chance, take a look at an aquarium. When you look up at the surface from below, you can see that it is very reflective. Just as well can see our reflection on the top of the water, the fish can see a reflection under the surface as well. I feel that the color can make a big difference. We think they can't see it, but they definitely can. Every time you twitch it, and the bait dips slightly underwater fro a split second, it is reflecting its colors up to the surface, and making it visible below. If I can find a good video to demonstrate, I'll go ahead and post it.
The Live Target Sunfish is a great lure to use. I have caught several decent bass on it and I have only been fishing this lure for a short time.
I've had it for a few months now and have not caught one fish on it, i get plenty of blowups but no hookups...then again I dont do well with frogs either lol I did buy the larger model, if anything I would get the smaller bait instead of the larger one.
I bought mine when they came out but was so disappointed with the small size, even though I bought the bigger bait, that I have yet to take it out of the package.
I have one of each size but haven't given them a real good test yet. I have thrown the smaller size a little and I found it casts like a bullet and it definitely walks better than a frog.
As far as hookups go for the guys who say they have had blowups but no hookups, its like any frog, if you tweak the hooks away from the body a bit you'll vastly improve your hookup percentage.
I too noticed the shiny weight(how could you not), has anyone tried painting it over?
It's just good, not incredible or anything.
Seriously though, if I hear one more person complaining about the unpainted weight on the bottom I'm going to burn it and post a video. Lol
That unpainted weight sure is unsightly...
Works for me!
Theres no doubt it works, ive caught bass on gummy worms so i guess they work too. In my opinion i rather buy a frog which dies the same thing but cheaper
It walks easily but I never get them to commit on it. Seriously, I've never had so much followers on a topwater lure. I've had at least a good 20-30 fish follow and only one to commit on it.
On 7/4/2016 at 4:23 AM, Jon G said:It walks easily but I never get them to commit on it. Seriously, I've never had so much followers on a topwater lure. I've had at least a good 20-30 fish follow and only one to commit on it.
Must be the big silver circle on the bottom.
sorry, had to.
On 7/4/2016 at 4:23 AM, Jon G said:It walks easily but I never get them to commit on it. Seriously, I've never had so much followers on a topwater lure. I've had at least a good 20-30 fish follow and only one to commit on it.
Were they big fish following?
I have a couple and reverted back to using the LT frog. The LT frog will put up with more abuse than the LT sunfish. Two things happen to the sunfish after you catch a few decent bass. The lip around the silver disc rips, and the disc slides into the bait, causing water to fill the bait. The bait takes in water to begin with, but the ripped lip exacerbates the issue.
I have to say, I usually can find the positives in any lure, and I love to try every hollow body that hits the market since I love topwater fishing. I tried this a few times when it was cold just to see the action, and I thought it would be a good bait since it had a wicked side to side action, nothing in the rear to imped the hookset, Trokar hooks, and the Metallic Purple Color matched the bluegill in tanic waters I fish...
I recently was on a good topwater bite with a Live Target Frog (I love the mouse as well) and I had a fish cut my frog off (Gar/Bowphin) so I looked in my box and figured I would pull out the LT Sunfish....
I was fishing stained water, light cover, open water, and not mats (It is probably good on mats like the Guntersville Frog for Hook up Ratio, fish don't see the bait)
Here is what the LT Sunfish Looks like to Bass and to Turtles....Either a Dead Stiff Bluegill that is bent from drying out, a bathtub toy being walked on a leash or rope, and I knew it was not going to work well when Turtles started chasing after it every cast, They only do that when guys are fishing for catfish and throwing dead bluegills in the lake.
It is the fakest looking bait I have ever thrown, I took about 20 casts, cut the line, tied on a Spro Frog and had a good fish on the first cast and into the evening the bite was good. I then tried the Molix Supernato Beetle and I will say this..If you want to spend money on a hollow body...
BUY THE MOLIX BEETLE...Action of A Jitterbug, can pop it, wake it, it also looks like a crazy crawler/High Riding wide wobble wake bait only weedless. It has awesome hooks that make it way better than the Step Wa which would fall apart but Molix has this right..This is my new Night time bait since I can chuck it everywhere and reel steady and without a skirt in back, hook up is fantastic.
LT Sunfish are now $10 bogo and have been for last 6 months at Dicks, Same time TW just got them in. That should tell you they over estimated how many they would sell. If you like it, that is great, maybe if the Bass are used to seeing bluegills water ski on their side or walk 360%, I can't think of what this even mimics. Maybe if you C-Rigged it it would work, I will try it on a mat since it may be good for that, but I already traded my other 2 for a pack of Tuf Line...
On 7/4/2016 at 4:23 AM, Jon G said:It walks easily but I never get them to commit on it. Seriously, I've never had so much followers on a topwater lure. I've had at least a good 20-30 fish follow and only one to commit on it.
Bass or Turtles? This is a turtle magnet...I have to say, I think Bass may be following it so they can laugh, I can find good in any lure, but this looks like a Bathtub toy that has way to much action since nothing walks like that, they should have made it a poppin style flat with same colors...I am trying to find a Metallic Purple Hollow belly since I still feel the colors are legit...Interesting take, Even Alligators won't hit this and they love a frog.
On 7/3/2016 at 5:15 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I bought mine when they came out but was so disappointed with the small size, even though I bought the bigger bait, that I have yet to take it out of the package.
Sell it, Don't bother, Or go to Dick's and buy 2 for $10.
On 7/4/2016 at 5:13 AM, the reel ess said:Were they big fish following?
No, biggest fish I saw follow it was about 1.5 pounds
Exactly what i thought of it primetime
I've been using it for a month or so and here are my thoughts:
On 7/5/2016 at 11:18 PM, FrogFreak said:I've been using it for a month or so and here are my thoughts:
- I like the bigger size for working more open water situations.
- It walks like a dream, the bigger size walks easier.
- It tends to catch on weeds and pads more often than a frog so working it in pads can be frustrating.
- It tends to fill up with water and then it catches on even more weeds!
- It does catch fish but won't replace a frog for fishing in the slop for me.
What could have possibly lead us to believe otherwise, FrogFreak?
The frog is definitely better than the sunfish. It still makes a great backup lure and gives something different for the bass to hit.
On 7/5/2016 at 11:39 PM, thebillsman said:What could have possibly lead us to believe otherwise, FrogFreak?
Valid point! I really wanted to like the Live Target Hollow Bluegill but BluegillFreak just doesn't have the same ring to it.
I fished it on a day where I didn't want to put dow the popper, I had one bite and I missed it. My friend threw right back in there with a sammy and landed the 4lber that I missed.
Well I finally used mine today, I've had it over a month. I will say that it walks awesome, great action but the hookup ratio sucks. I had 30 blow ups, hooked one fish.
On 7/1/2016 at 8:43 PM, d-camarena said:Just get a frog, or better yet get two frogs for what that costs. Its a real gimmicky lure. I regret buying mine
Agree there, there baits are designed to catch fisherman but i want my lures to catch fish.
I've fished it a few times, haven't caught anything on it yet. I did nearly catch a hawk, he kept swooping down at the bait everytime I casted out, so I finally had to switch to something different
My home lake has no mats or lily pads, so I really don't have a need for a frog. However, I ordered the smaller 7/16 oz Bluegill because I wanted to try it skipping under docks, which are a major form of cover here. I thought the smooth, cupped shape would lend itself to skipping better than the frogs.
I tried it today, probably threw 50 casts with it. It skipped pretty well, stayed low and went back deep under the low hanging docks. Many of the frogs I had tried tended to bounce a little higher, so they would often smack the dock or not get as far back under. I liked the way it walked under the dock, you could get a lot of action without pulling it out from under the dock. I had 4 blowups on it & caught 1. I also had one follow it out from under the dock and then turn around & go back under the dock. I snuck to the other side of the dock, skipped a wacky Senko in & caught the fish via the back door (of the dock, not the fish, I believe he was straight). It is kind of cool having blowups under a dock, it is like fishing at night.
As a comparison, I made probably 200 casts with the wacky senko, caught 17 fish and only missed 1 bite. While it won't replace a senko or jig for me when skipping docks, it does give me an alternative, weedless, different look for the fish. I like the purchase so far.
I find that the Live Target hardbaits work better than the sunfish. Especially the craws. i have always had luck with those
On 7/14/2016 at 12:23 PM, Eric Czerwinski said:I find that the Live Target hardbaits work better than the sunfish. Especially the craws. i have always had luck with those
Link?
http://livetargetlures.com/freshwater/crawfish-crankbait
On 7/16/2016 at 4:43 AM, jtharris3 said:
Link?
Head to your closest dicks sporting goods. Best prices on the craws around. $9.99 each compared to $13.99 anywhere else. and if you keep your eyes open, every so often they are buy one get one free. Go tomorrow and check bc they are on sale this week
I own a small set of live target lures. Have had more success using the hard baits over their hollow body / top water. I have the frog, mouse, and now the sunfish. I fished the sunfish one evening and it took me about 2 casts to get it to move how I wanted it to. I had one nice bass follow it all the way from the middle of the pond and slurp it very slowly in the shallows. It was a heavy fish . I thought I had a good hook set as I felt the full weight of her pull against me. But , she shook the hook. And that was the only time I had action on the bait. Overall 3/5