Starting to figure out there's nothing the Ned Rig can't do. 2024
Glaucus reply :
Just a praise thread. Been on a Smallmouth fix lately. Usually at a white water rapids dam. I am throwing this thing right in the white water, right off the dam, and catching 40 Smallies a trip by swimming it in that garbage. Literally swimming a Ned quickly in white water and catching so many fish. Go down the river in super calm water and hop it SLOWLY, and catch just as many. Fast, slow, hop, it don't matter. This turd bait is stupid good.
Mottel reply :
well its amazing if you like getting snagged
FishDewd reply :
Yeah... I can't throw neds because of snags. I'd go through all my ned jigs in no time. It has a time and place... just not where I live.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I find most guys that snag a lot are using too heavy a head, too heavy/large a hook, and trying to fish it like a shakyhead. Fish the light head, with a small hook, with one of the appropriate MWF retrieve for the situation, and I rarely lose one that isn't my fault.
Pickle_Power reply :
I'll have to try that. I fish a lot of small river dams, and small squarebills work great for me in the fast rapids. I haven't had a lot of success with plastics for river smallmouth, but I have not yet tried a Ned rig.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 8/6/2018 at 1:10 PM, Glaucus said:Literally swimming a Ned quickly in white water and catching so many fish. Go down the river in super calm water and hop it SLOWLY, and catch just as many. Fast, slow, hop, it don't matter. This turd bait is stupid good.
Those two methods are great and show the versatility of this rig. I recently started swimming the Ned above the rocks in fast moving waters and have had great success.
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 8/6/2018 at 9:48 PM, NYWayfarer said:Those two methods are great and show the versatility of this rig. I recently started swimming the Ned above the rocks in fast moving waters and have had great success.
White Lightning and The Deal have been good colors for me right now with all the small baitfish in the lakes. Ordered some of the new TRD MinnowZ this morning that I have high hopes for to have an even more realistic profile to the small, thin baitfish the smallmouth are eating.
jbmaine reply :
Up here the smallies like orange/green. Maybe other colors work too, but that's the color I tried first and it catches fish.
Glaucus reply :
On 8/6/2018 at 10:02 PM, jbmaine said:Up here the smallies like orange/green. Maybe other colors work too, but that's the color I tried first and it catches fish.
Coppertruese here
On 8/6/2018 at 1:15 PM, Mottel said:well its amazing if you like getting snagged
Almost anything else snags easier.
Todd2 reply :
I had my best day of the year back in the Spring throwing the Ned in places I shouldn't have. I landed a bunch but lost a bunch of Neds and a couple of Pigs. So I'm torn on the thread title.????
Pickle_Power reply :
How long of a worm and what worms are you guys using for Ned rigs for smallmouth? I'll have to cut down most of what I have, as they are all at least 5".
jbmaine reply :
On 8/6/2018 at 11:08 PM, Pickle_Power said:How long of a worm and what worms are you guys using for Ned rigs for smallmouth? I'll have to cut down most of what I have, as they are all at least 5".
I use the Z-Man worms they make for ned rigs. A couple inches long maybe.
Scott F reply :
I use the Z-Man elaztech plastics exclusively. The durability is the best of any plastic made and the buoyancy slows down the fall. The TRD is usually my first choice.
Glaucus reply :
Z-Man only for me too.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 8/6/2018 at 9:50 PM, Bluebasser86 said:White Lightning and The Deal have been good colors for me right now with all the small baitfish in the lakes. Ordered some of the new TRD MinnowZ this morning that I have high hopes for to have an even more realistic profile to the small, thin baitfish the smallmouth are eating.
Green Pumpkin, The Deal and Mudbug are my best producing colors. That Minnowz looks interesting. I might get some when my stock of Hula Stickz run low.
BankBasser reply :
I use the Z-Man 1/15oz red mushroom head and small TRD either in green pumpkin or pbj. The power of the ned can save a bad day.
Arobb2012 reply :
I have caught 14 fish on one green pumpkin goby trd using a Berkley half head 1/16 oz jig head. I think I have snagged it about 8 times and it pops loose every time. They have very sharp hooks and are stout for a tiny hook.
1201vilbig reply :
I started using these:
https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Flatlands_Custom_Tackle_Weedless_Ned_Heads_5pk/descpage-FLATWN.html
FishDewd reply :
On 8/6/2018 at 4:35 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I find most guys that snag a lot are using too heavy a head, too heavy/large a hook, and trying to fish it like a shakyhead. Fish the light head, with a small hook, with one of the appropriate MWF retrieve for the situation, and I rarely lose one that isn't my fault.
I just use the 1/15th-1/20 oz ned from z man. Definitely not large hooks on those. Some places I can fish them but there is a pond I frequent that hidden logs and a big overhang near the shore. I can't see tossing a ned too successfully there, though it may work. I just don't have faith in it cause it has no feeling to it.
fishwizzard reply :
On 8/7/2018 at 9:08 AM, FishDewd said:I just use the 1/15th-1/20 oz ned from z man. Definitely not large hooks on those. Some places I can fish them but there is a pond I frequent that hidden logs and a big overhang near the shore. I can't see tossing a ned too successfully there, though it may work. I just don't have faith in it cause it has no feeling to it.
I think the Z-man heads use a #1 hook, which is still “big” as compared to the #6-2 hooks that the Gopher heads used to come with.
Glaucus reply :
On 8/7/2018 at 9:08 AM, FishDewd said:I just use the 1/15th-1/20 oz ned from z man. Definitely not large hooks on those. Some places I can fish them but there is a pond I frequent that hidden logs and a big overhang near the shore. I can't see tossing a ned too successfully there, though it may work. I just don't have faith in it cause it has no feeling to it.
Eh I wouldn't bother with a Ned in a pond anyways unless it was winter(ish). Senkos - Texas or Wacky - handle those LMB just fine.
Krux5506 reply :
Also a big fan of the Ned rig as of this year. I used to think it was stupid but I was not fishing it right and didn't get it. I usually use 1/15th oz head with whatever color TRD, always fishing for bass but have caught everything else in between as well. Seems to me the big perch love them too.
Glaucus reply :
Yesterday's big girl doing the same thing. Fishing (swim hop) the Ned right off a Dam in fast water.
Adam.love05 reply :
What ways to do guys fish the ned rig? I tend to fish it like a Shakey head on and around rocks because I don't know any other ways to fish it with rocks present.. if there aren't rocks around, I just slowly drag it along the bottom.. I like the hogZ and hula better than the trd.. but I think it's just a confidence thing.. I also almost exclusively throw it on a 1/6oz ned head.. think that's too heavy? Mostly river fishing for smallies
Scott F reply :
I don’t fish it on the bottom a lot, especially around rocks and wood where it would snag easily. I tend to keep it off the bottom and swim it. The light jig heads and buoyant plastic make it easy to do. I also like to use jig heads with a weed guard and work it in the branches of a downed tree.
ChrisD46 reply :
On 8/6/2018 at 4:35 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I find most guys that snag a lot are using too heavy a head, too heavy/large a hook, and trying to fish it like a shakyhead. Fish the light head, with a small hook, with one of the appropriate MWF retrieve for the situation, and I rarely lose one that isn't my fault.
MWF has six retrieves - the feel nothing swim retrieve is perhaps the hardest to explain / perform .
NYWayfarer reply :
On 8/8/2018 at 12:39 AM, Adam.love05 said:What ways to do guys fish the ned rig? I tend to fish it like a Shakey head on and around rocks because I don't know any other ways to fish it with rocks present.. if there aren't rocks around, I just slowly drag it along the bottom.. I like the hogZ and hula better than the trd.. but I think it's just a confidence thing.. I also almost exclusively throw it on a 1/6oz ned head.. think that's too heavy? Mostly river fishing for smallies
My favorite ways are cast it out and slow swim it back. Cast it out and hop it back or cast it out and dead stick it.
The dead stick method works well. The bait sticks up straight from the bottom and Smallies will slam it in a way that you will feel a "tick" for a brief second. Once I feel that I take up the slack and if I feel any resistance I set the hook.
Glaucus reply :
Most productive for me is swimming it back while also kinda sorta yo-yoing it.
EGbassing reply :
On 8/6/2018 at 1:15 PM, Mottel said:well its amazing if you like getting snagged
It's amazing if you like catching fish
NorthE97 reply :
Recently just watched this video and it might be able to help if you get snagged a lot with the ned heads.
FishDewd reply :
A backwards ned rig... okay that's interesting.
ItsHardwick reply :
What kind of gear are you guys throwing the tiny ned heads like the 1/15 and 1/20th on? I caught a bunch on a ned with a 3 inch senko today but I can only ever effectively use the bigger ones. I think the one today was 1/5 or 1/6. They have so many seemingly random sizes I can’t keep up.
BankBasser reply :
On 8/8/2018 at 10:11 AM, ItsHardwick said:What kind of gear are you guys throwing the tiny ned heads like the 1/15 and 1/20th on? I caught a bunch on a ned with a 3 inch senko today but I can only ever effectively use the bigger ones. I think the one today was 1/5 or 1/6. They have so many seemingly random sizes I can’t keep up.
7' ml/f spinning
Glaucus reply :
On 8/8/2018 at 10:11 AM, ItsHardwick said:What kind of gear are you guys throwing the tiny ned heads like the 1/15 and 1/20th on? I caught a bunch on a ned with a 3 inch senko today but I can only ever effectively use the bigger ones. I think the one today was 1/5 or 1/6. They have so many seemingly random sizes I can’t keep up.
I use the 1/10oz ShroomZ with a weedguard in the rocky river current. 15lb braid/8lb fluoro leader. 6'6" M/F rod. I don't know why you're having problems with the smaller heads? Explain what's going on and where you're fishing it.
(I'm going to start using the 1/15oz ShroomZ on a ML/F rod with 10lb braid/6lb fluoro leader for when I wade the slower parts of the river.)
Edit: Do you mean you can't cast them? If that's the case, it's because you need super light tackle and light braid.
Bluebasser86 reply :
When you get into weedless heads, Neko rigs, and the like, it's getting outside of the basic definitions of what the MWF rig is. An open jighead, no heavier than 3/32oz, with a small thin wire hook, rigged with a small plastic no longer than 4" fished with one of the 6 MWF retrieves. It doesn't fit into the norm of bass fishing so it gets changed to fit into what we're more comfortable with (hooks hidden in the bait to be more snag free, beefier hooks, heavier heads for better feel, ect), but with those changes it's no longer what the bait was meant to be and changes it's effectiveness also.
This is Ned Kehde, the guy the rig is named after, talking about the rig. We've talked on the water several times as we've crossed paths, very interesting guy.
fishwizzard reply :
I still use Decoy Nailbomb heads to rig up a weedless Ned but accept that my hookup raito is going to go down as compared to using an open-hook head. I think it’s maybe the best “friend who wants to go fishing like twice a year” presentation out there. Easy to cast, hard to snag, and can catch a fish on most any retrieve.
MichaelCopeland reply :
On 8/6/2018 at 4:35 PM, Bluebasser86 said:I find most guys that snag a lot are using too heavy a head, too heavy/large a hook, and trying to fish it like a shakyhead. Fish the light head, with a small hook, with one of the appropriate MWF retrieve for the situation, and I rarely lose one that isn't my fault.
Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by MWF retrieve?
Arobb2012 reply :
On 8/8/2018 at 9:37 PM, MichaelCopeland said:Forgive my ignorance, but what do you mean by MWF retrieve?
Midwest finesse
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 8/8/2018 at 8:57 PM, fishwizzard said:I think it’s maybe the best “friend who wants to go fishing like twice a year” presentation out there. Easy to cast, hard to snag, and can catch a fish on most any retrieve.
That, a wacky rig, and a small swimbait on an open jighead are my go to baits for beginners.
NYWayfarer reply :
On 8/8/2018 at 10:23 PM, Bluebasser86 said:That, a wacky rig, and a small swimbait on an open jighead are my go to baits for beginners.
For old "pros" as well 
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 8/8/2018 at 10:38 PM, NYWayfarer said:For old "pros" as well
Oh yeah, great for everyone. You won't dig through my rod locker and not find a rod with each of those baits rigged up.
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