I had used the lures tht were given to me and they didn't catch anything. probably my fault...I did everything I new how to do. Watching KVD do it I tried it and didn't work. Watched hours of video on spinnerbaits but still didn't help. I used braid because I'm comfortable with it.
Help Please wht did I do wrong
Some days they want them and others not so much? Spinnerbait days for me are feast or famine, I catch one or two one day then 40 the next. Don't give up as the fall is when they seem to work best.
Allen
What were the conditions? What was the cover/structure like?
On 9/22/2013 at 5:47 AM, MIbassin said:What were the conditions? What was the cover/structure like?
Today we had a ok overcast a wind going to the east at about 5-8 mph
The cover/structure were logs and stumps...some weed edges
As proven by KVD it's the where not the what
Like any other technique, some days it's not what they want. I throw a spinnerbait a lot, number 1 search bait this season. Keep it up, I'm sure you will get it sooner or later. Also, I find keeping it simple is better to learn to use a spinnerbait. Just throw it out and do a continuous and steady retrieve, once your start getting confidence, then add the other things. You can over think/over work a lure imo.
Most days I can slam them on spinnerbaits. Last weekend I couldn't have bought a bite with one. It happens.
On 9/22/2013 at 9:15 AM, SudburyBasser said:Most days I can slam them on spinnerbaits. Last weekend I couldn't have bought a bite with one. It happens.
I may have did that.
Try messing with your blades also. Gold for murky water silver for clear. Colarado blades give more vibrations and move at slower speeds but willows are more flash but move at faster speeds. I generally love them for windy choppy days but on calm days I always use them also. A 1/2oz chart with double willow smaller silver blade and large golden blade is my go to. Hope this helps.
TYG
I feel your pain, I haven't hardly been able to buy a spinnerbait fish this year. I caught quite a few really early in the year when the water was still pretty cold but almost none since then.
Hi Jay,
You probably didn't do anything wrong. In S FL when the water temps soar into the 90's it becomes very difficult (at least for me) to get the bass to chase anything. I usually do much better fishing with slower moving bottom presentation baits such as worms, creature/craw/tube baits, flukes and jigs. When the temps fall a bit lower in a month or so the SB bite should pick up. In KVD's video he seems to stress high speed presentations. I have had little to no success year round fishing spinnerbaits in this manner. I have done much better fishing them slower and lower with frequent pauses and twitches. Bump them into cover whenever possible. You should do fine in a month or so. Good Luck!
On 9/22/2013 at 3:17 AM, Jay_White said:I had used the lures tht were given to me and they didn't catch anything. probably my fault...I did everything I new how to do. Watching KVD do it I tried it and didn't work. Watched hours of video on spinnerbaits but still didn't help. I used braid because I'm comfortable with it.
Help Please wht did I do wrong
In this sport every bait has a time and place, the first thing you have to learn is to recognize when a particular bait (s) is going to work, the only way you will learn how to recognize when is by fishing with it (them) if it works ---> great ! remember the conditions and when you find those conditions again then, most probably, it will work again.
What you did wrong was to think that because you saw a video it was going to work for you right away
On 9/23/2013 at 1:48 AM, Raul said:In this sport every bait has a time and place, the first thing you have to learn is to recognize when a particular bait (s) is going to work, the only way you will learn how to recognize when is by fishing with it (them) if it works ---> great ! remember the conditions and when you find those conditions again then, most probably, it will work again.
What you did wrong was to think that because you saw a video it was going to work for you right away
I feel as though your being critical. I had a guys use them the same day and the same conditions that I had
I have ZERO confidence in them. I have thrown all kinds of spinnerbaits, wakebaits, and buzzbaits with no luck at all. I think I have only got one fish in my life on a spinnerbait. All kinds of different colors, blades and weights, same results.
On 9/23/2013 at 3:44 AM, DelcoSol said:I have ZERO confidence in them. I have thrown all kinds of spinnerbaits, wakebaits, and buzzbaits with no luck at all. I think I have only got one fish in my life on a spinnerbait. All kinds of different colors, blades and weights, same results.
Agreed no results I have zero confidence the only bite I got was from this color a chart. purple and white with gold blades
I use the Colorado blade single, or a Colorado/Indiana blade, double. I use a grub trailer with YUM scent.
The days I find it doesn't work is when I read the water conditions wrong. I was throwing my white glimmer spinner bait when I should of been using my chartreuse color that I left home. My new quick fish on the fly tackle box just isn't working out. I need to carry more tackle. But the water was muddy and I put on a citrus colored bomber crankbait and it caught fish.
We need to read the water conditions and match the lure color to the water conditions. When we aren't catching fish we need to get back to basics.
On 9/23/2013 at 6:17 AM, bigbill said:I use the Colorado blade single, or a Colorado/Indiana blade, double. I use a grub trailer with YUM scent.
The days I find it doesn't work is when I read the water conditions wrong. I was throwing my white glimmer spinner bait when I should of been using my chartreuse color that I left home. My new quick fish on the fly tackle box just isn't working out. I need to carry more tackle. But the water was muddy and I put on a citrus colored bomber crankbait and it caught fish.
We need to read the water conditions and match the lure color to the water conditions. When we aren't catching fish we need to get back to basics.
I got invited back to this pound...and Im going to try a new setup and see if that helps.
Keep in mind everyone and their grandma uses spinnerbaits..
The fish has probably seen more spinnerbait than any other lure..
Where I fish EVERYONE throws them.. no wonder I rarely see them get the big fish and I mop them up using lures the fish hasnt seen.
That said they still do work (a testament to their effectiveness) and even I resort to them at times.. but I hate the straight retrieve..caught one the other day bouncing it off a wall..plop..
the bass nailed it right away
Well, KVD burns them on the surface alot...try diff. speeds and depths...i know when i was on Coosa they mainly hit slow rolling the bottom.
Ok above the sight line is where you can see the spinner bait but the fish can see you too the speed your reeling it is fast keeping the spinner bait above the sightlines. When you slow it down it goes below the sight line right were the fish are located. If the bass are more aggressive thell strike above the sight line. If there less aggressive thell hit below the sight line when you put the spinner bait in there face. That's a reaction strike. Speed is the key as to where the spinner bait runs at what depth.
If you hold the rod up at 12o'clock and reel it while adjusting the speed your spinner bait will run on top with the blade slapping right and left looking for topwater action.
I haven't done any good on spinnerbaits this year either. Try something slower that stays on the bottom. Maybe a Texas rigged Senko, or a baby brush hog.
The setup of the spinner bait matters too. I use the gold color single Colorado blade or the twin Colorado blade or the Indiana and a Colorado blade. On the Colorado blade I sometimes go up one size for more thump. I prefer a blue glimmer skirt. Then I add a white 4" mister twister split double tail grub for a trailer plus a trailer hook. Add one shot of yum shad scent and your good to go. I use this setup for clear to slightly stained water. In slightly stained+ to muddy water I setup a chartreuse color spinnerbait with a hot chartreuse skirt with a MT 4" split double tail grub with a trailer hook. Both of these setups seem to be the hot ticket from shore. I stay between the 1/8oz, 3/16oz, 1/4oz to 3/8oz size from shore. I do use the 3/16oz to 1/4oz spinnerbaits more. Probably because of them having less splash in the shallower water not to spook I the bass.
I love SB fishin. I have noticed though clear shallow water seems to not be favorable, stained water has proven its worth, same thing with cloudy windy days. How are you fishing it? Cast out n retrieve, yoyo,slow roll even a sink and snap can excite them I always have a color matching trailer and trailer hook. A trailor hook I think is very important especially with that grub trailor. The fall seems to be the better season to me, altough when I fished them in years past I was able to catch em all year long by changing blades, ooo thats another thing certain blades do different things.
On 9/23/2013 at 1:48 AM, Raul said:In this sport every bait has a time and place, the first thing you have to learn is to recognize when a particular bait (s) is going to work, the only way you will learn how to recognize when is by fishing with it (them) if it works ---> great ! remember the conditions and when you find those conditions again then, most probably, it will work again.
What you did wrong was to think that because you saw a video it was going to work for you right away
Very much so. OP you probably didn't do anything wrong but fishing is a lot luck and a little "everything else". If someone was throwing spinnerbaits at the same time and doing better, maybe take a little time to watch them and see what they may be doing different. Speed, depth, proximity to cover, differences in color/size/action of the bait, small twitches or variations in action, etc. can all have a big impact on the overall effectiveness.
Don't get down on them man, it won't work every time even in the hands of a master.
On 9/28/2013 at 10:00 PM, Swampstud said:I love SB fishin. I have noticed though clear shallow water seems to not be favorable, stained water has proven its worth, same thing with cloudy windy days. How are you fishing it? Cast out n retrieve, yoyo,slow roll even a sink and snap can excite them I always have a color matching trailer and trailer hook. A trailor hook I think is very important especially with that grub trailor. The fall seems to be the better season to me, altough when I fished them in years past I was able to catch em all year long by changing blades, ooo thats another thing certain blades do different things.
Im cast n retrieve..i tried to make the blades bang together...ima going fishing tomorrow so ill try them then
On 9/23/2013 at 1:58 AM, Jay_White said:I feel as though your being critical. I had a guys use them the same day and the same conditions that I had
Really?? Raul just gave you the best advice you're gonna get, kid.
On 10/5/2013 at 10:17 AM, .ghoti. said:Really?? Raul just gave you the best advice you're gonna get, kid.
But I had guys catch fish using the same colors and lures that i was using...and they watched the video too
Your still not catching fish on spinnerbaits? Slow them down till there out of your sight in the water.
On 10/5/2013 at 10:17 AM, .ghoti. said:Really?? Raul just gave you the best advice you're gonna get, kid.
On 10/5/2013 at 10:29 AM, Jay_White said:But I had guys catch fish using the same colors and lures that i was using...and they watched the video too
Yup, Raul gave you the best advice. There are more to it than, using the same lure and watching the save video.
I think with spinners you need to find what depth the strike zone is at. Maybe it's closer to the surface, mid column or towards the bottom. I read somewhere that baitfish typically run with the current so casting downwind and retrieving upwards wouldn't be the typical pattern. Try casting more into the wind and retrieving as would be the more normal route of baitfish.
I'm no expert by any means. There's some good articles if you google it.
I do like how they slam the bait. Keep at it and good luck!
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Why did you post the same picture 6 times?
Ask yourself this question. How pressured is the spot you were fishing? Spinnerbaits get thrown by almost everyone. Did you try something different? Some days the bite is on with them and other days its not.
No confidence?
You gotta know when to throw spinnerbaits esp when the place you go is pressured by spinnerbait-psychos.
Where you got pressure, its even more important to use them right and at the right time else you lose confidence.
The place I fish everyone and their grandma throws em so I put them away until the time is right.
For example, last trip I went, I was doin some fish throwin' topwater frogs & stickbait.. then the wind started kickin up and the current shifted.. then the rains started in light and got heavier.. what lttle topwater bite .. now gone
I put that topwater away and went to the feeder creek area where the wind was blowin up the creek meanwhile the rain causing the creek to flow current into the lake.. perfect. The waves and rain robbed me of the topwater my fav but disguises me so I went fishin subsurface with a white/chartruse spinnerbait willow leaves bream trailer.. nailed a nice big 20" 4lb'der after a few casts in the storm .. 4lbs is nice for up here in the north.
Waves crashin and rain droppin late in the day low light dont let the fish concentrate on a crazy lookin spinnerbait.. nice visible colors floating by and blades flashin.. slam! Fish dont get a chance to scrutinize.
Earlier on, I kept those spinnerbaits in the box.. when conditions present themselves, toss them out there..
trust me they nail fish when the time is right.. and its fall season.. its spinnerbait season buddy!
Gotta also know what kind of spinnerbait combos to use as well (the blades, skirts, trailer)
Also, I've never nailed spinnerbait fish on steady retrieves..maybe someone else has but I NEVER did..
One of my favorite things to do is bangin them off structures .. many times, it gets nailed right after..
Watching a video will really do nothing in and of itself to make fish bite-assuming there are even fish where you cast. There are a LOT of factors involved in choosing where and how you are going to fish and spinnerbaits are just a single tool in one's arsenal. Not every tool is appropriate OR is going to work all the time (I really haven't had that much luck with them myself this year-but when I did, it was phenomenal). You have to fish the way the fish want it and NOT how you want to. You don't have to ever use a spinnerbait if you don't want to (some guys never do) but don't discount them just because you had a bad day (or even a bad season) with them.
P.S., On some days you can practically sell your soul to the devil and you it still won't get fish to bite even the very best lure choice.
spinner baits, like any fishing tool, have their place. there are definitely times that a spinner bait is the right tool to throw. when bass are foraging on shad, which our fall season is a great time, spinner baits many times would be a good choice. of course, as with any other lure we might choose to try, we have to be throwing it in front of bass to have a chance at catching them. getting a good handle on seasonal patterns will help eliminate water. tom young has produced a very useful tool called a cosmic clock. i would suggest looking that up and study it. it will help any of us with seasonal patterns.
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I went out Monday morning on small pond I've been fishing and threw my first spinnerbait ever. I picked up a War Eagle 1/4oz chartreuse/white with double willow blades at Walmart on a whim Saturday morning. Cold front rolled in Saturday afternoon.
I got to the water around 7:45am. Cast #1 = strike, but fish spit the hook. Cast #3 = pulled in a 1.5 pounder. Cast #4 = pulled in a 1.75 pounder. Never had such luck. I was so excited. But just as quickly as it started, it stopped. From 7:55 - 9:30 there was nothing — even after switching to a Chatterbait and later a fluke.
Even went back later that afternoon. After 10 minutes, one hit the War Eagle, but spit the hook. A bit later I pulled in a 1.25 pounder. Then nothing for the next 50-60 minutes.
Easy come... easy go...