I was thinking hooking a Zoom Superfluke through the nose with a Cirlce 1/0 hook. Have any of you guys tried this? I think it would mebbe give the fluke alittle more action!
That is an interesting idea. I may just have to give it a try. Would like to hear anyones experiences with this.
I have nosed hooked flukes with a 1/0 or 2/0 wacky hook & it works just fine. Gives the fluke a more natural look especially when you kill it after jerking or twitching. A more stealthy way of hooking a fluke than traditional worm hook or keel weight hook.
One of the most deadly post spawn techniques is to take an original sized fluke, nose hook it with a small circle hook, and throw it on 10lb fireline. Twitch it in as fast as you can with small, sharp snaps of the rod tip. Goodbye fluke
Saltwater flats anglers like to soak the nose of the fluke in vegetable oil overnight. It toughens up the plastic to last longer. I had trouble gut hooking bass even with the circle hook until I found a non off set hook.
Gamakatsu makes their Oct-Inline circle hook. Would be an excellent application with the fluke. Off-set circles are not nearly as effective in minimizing deep hooking.
I tried it today, but I didn't catch anything. I think that may be the fact that I was fishing 95 degree heat, hehe
I tried it fishing beds this spring and it worked pretty well and made hook ups easier on spinning gear and light line.
You have just figured out one of the big secrets of many river smallie anglers.
A nose-hooked fluke drifted in the current is almost as good as a tube.
On 6/5/2011 at 10:07 AM, Missouribassman95 said:I tried it today, but I didn't catch anything. I think that may be the fact that I was fishing 95 degree heat, hehe
Tough for fishing in this kind of heat! You might try letting it sink completely to the bottom and kill it there. Then 2 o 3 sharp jerks up off the bottom and let it die again. Repeat. Tough to do, if you're a power fisherman, but extremely productive in the heat of summer.
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I just use the Gamakatsu Wide Gap Finesse hooks in 1/0 size. Works great.
great method... works really well and it does give it a natural action..
i've been using 1/0 or 2/0 Gammie wide gap finesse hooks too
I tried this today and caught 3 fish on about 10 casts. Sadly I won't be using this technique anymore. After loosing a bait on every fish, it seems like it would get expensive to fish on a consistent basis.
On 6/5/2011 at 10:07 AM, Missouribassman95 said:I tried it today, but I didn't catch anything. I think that may be the fact that I was fishing 95 degree heat, hehe
I was fishing in 101 degree weather yesterday and I caught 4 or 5 bass.Lost count with the snake I walked up one and my brain was frying lol.Its been very hot and dry month.I dont remember the last time it we had rain here.We just got alot of wind yesterday when a passing storm was just to our east.Oh well maybe next time.
Nose hooking makes the fluke dive head first and faster. Are you guys working it faster to keep it from diving head first?
How would a lighter hook make it sink faster? We're using drop shot hooks, not wide gap worm hooks.
On 6/5/2011 at 6:03 AM, senko_77 said:One of the most deadly post spawn techniques is to take an original sized fluke, nose hook it with a small circle hook, and throw it on 10lb fireline. Twitch it in as fast as you can with small, sharp snaps of the rod tip. Goodbye fluke
I'm going to have to try this now....
On 6/9/2011 at 9:35 PM, lavbasser said:Nose hooking makes the fluke dive head first and faster. Are you guys working it faster to keep it from diving head first?
Again, if you use a light drop shot hook, it falls slower and not head first.
In fact, the 5" Shad Impact I use fall with a side to side wobble using a 1/0 hook that you wouldn't get with an EWG.
Try it.
On 6/8/2011 at 4:36 AM, PondBoss said:I tried this today and caught 3 fish on about 10 casts. Sadly I won't be using this technique anymore. After loosing a bait on every fish, it seems like it would get expensive to fish on a consistent basis.
Dood, Flukes are like...$3 for a ten pack. That's a completely acceptable ratio. Drink two fewer sodas a week and your fluke habit is paid for.
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Francho do you straight nose hook, or thread 1/2 inch or so? I've been threading Caffeine Shads and they do some really cool stuff. Z too and Zulu nose hooked are a riot.
QuoteAgain, if you use a light drop shot hook, it falls slower and not head first.In fact, the 5" Shad Impact I use fall with a side to side wobble using a 1/0 hook that you wouldn't get with an EWG.
I believe I used the same hook, Gammy Finesse Wide Gap 1/0. This was the recommendation of Huskybass from a few years back. I will have to give it another try.
On 6/8/2011 at 4:36 AM, PondBoss said:I tried this today and caught 3 fish on about 10 casts. Sadly I won't be using this technique anymore. After loosing a bait on every fish, it seems like it would get expensive to fish on a consistent basis.
This......this just doesn't make sense to me. What your saying is that you are gonna stop using a technique that caught you a fish on 30% of your casts because it is too expensive? If I was catching fish on 30% of my casts, I would sell all my other tackle and fish that exclusively. Heck, if your worried about cost, go to Del-Mart molds and pour your own flukes. Only costs like 20 cents a bait. Hope that isn't too much
I'm aware that it isn't a lot of money. My point is I should not have to loose a bait after one fish. If I was getting 3-5 fish per bait that would be better. I don't wanna have to buy a new bag of flukes every day. Hell if I was even getting the bait back I'd be more apt to continue fishing it, but when I'm just bringing in the fish with just a hook and no bait it's kinda upsetting. I can T-rig the fluke and catch just as many fish working it weightless, but I get my bait back. Nose hooking is out for me.
On 6/10/2011 at 12:13 PM, PondBoss said:I'm aware that it isn't a lot of money. My point is I should not have to loose a bait after one fish. If I was getting 3-5 fish per bait that would be better. I don't wanna have to buy a new bag of flukes every day. Hell if I was even getting the bait back I'd be more apt to continue fishing it, but when I'm just bringing in the fish with just a hook and no bait it's kinda upsetting. I can T-rig the fluke and catch just as many fish working it weightless, but I get my bait back. Nose hooking is out for me.
Maybe it is because you are a pond boss, when you burn gas on a lake a 3 dollar bag of flukes is nothing!! Just joking about the pond boss comment, i fish ponds a lot also and there is certainly nothing wrong with it but it made my point well!
On 6/8/2011 at 4:36 AM, PondBoss said:I tried this today and caught 3 fish on about 10 casts. Sadly I won't be using this technique anymore. After loosing a bait on every fish, it seems like it would get expensive to fish on a consistent basis.
Flukes are $3 for a pack of 10. If you catch one fish on each fluke thats 30 cents a fish. I dont know about you, but I'll gladly pay 30 cents a fish. Baits are too cheap to worry about. Especially after you think about the expenses of a boat, insurance, gas, ect. Loosing a soft plastic or two, or a whole pack for that matter, is the least of my worries.
For my open water fishing with a fluke I like to use a 1/4 oz jig head rather than a circle hook, but I'm sure nose hooking would work just as well. Just never know how long 1 bait will last, I've caught several snook or tarpon on one before I had to replace it and I have lost one to a small bass, just the way it goes. I have been using the DOA 5 1/2" jerk shads, but people I know use Zooms and have identical success.
About the only way to pond fish and beat the cost of baits is to catch your own live crawlers and minnows, just so long a hard bait will last, I lose them.
My brother-in-law swears by this method (use a 1/0 Gam Wide Gap Finesse Hook-similar to a drop shot or octopus hook). I have had success also, but I am not a fan of flukes. If you are try the Case Plastics sinking minnow, very good baits and reasonably priced as well.
I use circle hooks and nose hook almost everything on C-Rigs and it works just fine.
I nose rig mine on jackall ishad weighted hooks it was my go to this year 1/4oz with a white fluke they couldn't resist em
I use a gamakatsu o'shaugnessy offset hook 1/0 to nose rig my super flukes. PondBoss best advice I can give you is if you look on the back of a superfluke, you will see a small dimple (or small tiny hole) and I run my hook thru that. In general, I can fish all day on 3 or 4 baits. Catching fish will tear it a little each time, but generally it slides up the line and if you are careful you can slide it back down and it will still be fine. I lose more thru continuous throwing I will have the occassional occupational hazard ( just tear it thru and it slings off) Sometimes you will catch 10 fish on one and sometimes one fish will tear it off. Don't let that stop you from throwing it, it is a deadly rig!
On 6/8/2011 at 4:36 AM, PondBoss said:I tried this today and caught 3 fish on about 10 casts. Sadly I won't be using this technique anymore. After loosing a bait on every fish, it seems like it would get expensive to fish on a consistent basis.
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