So I finally was able to pick some of these up. Sadly they only had 1 size of each kind but I'll have to make due. Grabbed some 3.8 fat and 4" regular in bluegill flash. How do you prefer to fish them... Weightless T rig or weighted swimbait hook? What weight do you prefer and I'm guessing a 3/0 or 4/0 hook.
Thanks in advance BR.
There's a good YouTube video and this recommended using swim bait hook especially the eagle claw hook since it has a huge gap 60 degree. His video sold me on the idea so that's my plan.
He said his words he thought they looked better in the water on the swimbait hook vs the jig head he acted like the jig head didn't give as good of movement as the swimbait hook.
Also I hear invest in some mendit. I got some 3.8 to throw on my umbrella rig. And plan to fish the 4.8 as solo swimbaits.
Bluegill flash gold flash and pro staff as some colors I had recommended to me good luck sir!
My favorite way to fish them is on a jig head. I feel I get the best action out of them that way.
Yeah I really wanted the 4.8 size but they only had mass amounts of the 3.8. I grabbed bluegill flash to try out. I'll have to get some mend it.
Correction just ordered some mend it.
I'm such a sucker for Japanese baits anymore I feel well maybe they haven't seen these as much. I snagged some of Keitechs solid tubes to try when I was researching the fat ika.
Come on warm weather!
The 3.8 inch fat swing impact is one of my favorite swimjig trailers for the California style of jig. By this I mean the Northstar flip and swim, Siebert elite series, or the Dirty jigs swim jigs. The smaller and more slender swing impact is great as a trailer on the northern style finesse swim jigs.
Outside of a trailer option or as A-rig attachments I would swim them on the keel weighted swimbait hook nice and slow when it is cold and more drop and lift when it is warmer. Weight would be dependent on depth and to an extent how patient you are. Also consider fall rate and action as it relates to overall weight. Typically I like 3/16 for most of my scenarios and I may adjust a bit either way as needed. The squid scent, action, and color options make these some of the best baits I have fished.
Their product line as a whole is very good and has caught me alot of fish. A go to lure company for me especially when I am on a tough bite. I think you really like em.
Yeah I've heard nothing but good things about them that's why I was excited to stumble across them tonight. Just sucks there were no 4.8's. My main plan was fishing them over grass. I think the 3.8's will still do the trick though. If not then they'll become trailers but hopefully that's not the case.
I've only come across them in one place in my parts by accident. Online is my go to shopping.
I have nothing close by me at all. I went with a friend tonight an hour away to pick up something he ordered. I figured why not stop at DSG and grab some havoc subwoofers for swim jig trailers. They had every havoc bait but the subwoofers. To my surprise I found Keitechs,D bombs, and some certain rage tail stuff on clearance. 10 minutes later I checked out $90 worth of stuff. Oh well it's all stuff I wanted to try out anyways.
IMO, there's more cost effective options that work well for just ticking over grass. For me the Swing Impacts really stand above the rest on a 1/4oz darter head just cast and retrieved slowly back in or stroked along the bottom.
Buckeye Swimbait Jig Head http://www.cabelas.com/product/Buckeye-Lures-J-Will-Swimbait-Head/1364103.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dswimbait%2Bjigheads%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=swimbait+jigheads&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products
Thanks everyone. I'll pick up some 1/4oz heads. I have some 3/16 somewhere I think.
anyone tie double rigs with these? weighted or weightless?
On 2/10/2014 at 5:02 AM, roadwarrior said:Buckeye Swimbait Jig Head http://www.cabelas.com/product/Buckeye-Lures-J-Will-Swimbait-Head/1364103.uts?Ntk=AllProducts&searchPath=%2Fcatalog%2Fsearch.cmd%3Fform_state%3DsearchForm%26N%3D0%26fsch%3Dtrue%26Ntk%3DAllProducts%26Ntt%3Dswimbait%2Bjigheads%26WTz_l%3DHeader%253BSearch-All%2BProducts&Ntt=swimbait+jigheads&WTz_l=Header%3BSearch-All+Products
I like that jighead as well.
I use VMC Half-Moon jig heads when I can fish an exposed hook with little issues. I have also used them on a mojo rig with some success through the grass.
In southern La, my paddle tail fishing is usually around heavy timber and thick grass. Weedless is a must.
I personally like the Owner keel weighted swimbait hook, 3/0, 1/16 oz weight for shallow applications. This applies to the 3.8 impact fat shad, as this is the only size I have tried.
Don't tell anyone, but they are my go to baits for skipping under docks, tree limbs, and through cypress stump fields too thick to risk expensive cranks and spinnerbaits. Excellent in that application!
I have a few on order, and looking forward to trying them out...
Keitech Swing Impact FAT 3.8"
(1) Color: Green Pumpkin
(1) Color: Male Perch
Keitech Swing Impact FAT 4.8"
(1) Color: Gold Flash
(1) Color: Bluegill Flash
Keitech Swing Impact FAT 5.8"
(1) Color: Sight Flash
(1) Color: Silver Flash
Hooks...
(1) Trokar Swimbait Hook Size 4/0 5pk
(1) Trokar Weighted Swimbait Hook Size 5/0 1/4oz 3pk
(1) Gamakatsu Superline Spring Lock Swimbait Hook 3/16oz Size 6/0
(1) Eagle Claw TK160 Size 7/0 Trokar Magnum Swimbait Hook (Platinum Black)
For a Swim Jig,,,
Dirty Jigs California Swim Jig 3/8oz
(1) Color: Black & Blue
(1) Color: Green Sunfish
Buckeye Mop Jig 1/4 oz
(1) Color: Brown/Orange
(1) Color: Watermelon Red
(1) Color: Black/Chartreuse
I use jigheads with them....Been wanting to try the Freedom Tackle Jigheads with them.
I saw today that BPS has a 3.8 and 4.8 version that look the same. Even have the same name for colors. Same price though. I also grabbed some swimbait heads in 1/8-1/4-3/8 that have a 5/0 hook and kinda look like the J will. Price was just a lot better.
Those look nothing like the Keitechs!
Jeff
On 2/16/2014 at 5:06 AM, 00 mod said:Those look nothing like the Keitechs!
Jeff
I wasn't referring to the bait in the pic. That was just to show the heads I bought. I saw them online while looking at Bps.
Oh, ok! The heads do look similar. I thought someone duped you on the Keitechs! Good to know!
Jeff
I'm not sure if the action will be the same but for those who can't find them but have a bps nearby this might be a good substitute. For me bps or cabelas is 2hrs away. Gander mtn and dicks are 1hr. Small town living at it's best haha
Football head with a 4/0 hook. Is the only way I run the fat ones. It creates a wide wobble ecspecially if you drag them super slow over rocks. As for the smaller ones I T rig with a bullet weight held down with a bobber stop.
Used the regular swing impacts on both an A-Rig as well as drop shot. The dropshot will work great on the regular swing impact with a #1 dropshot hook. Think if I had the Fat's I'd use them as the center bait on the A-Rig or T-rig them with a 1/8 to 3/16 tungsten weight and slow swim them, or use them as a swimjig trailer.
On 2/9/2014 at 1:35 PM, kickerfish1 said:The 3.8 inch fat swing impact is one of my favorite swimjig trailers for the California style of jig. By this I mean the Northstar flip and swim, Siebert elite series, or the Dirty jigs swim jigs. The smaller and more slender swing impact is great as a trailer on the northern style finesse swim jigs.
Outside of a trailer option or as A-rig attachments I would swim them on the keel weighted swimbait hook nice and slow when it is cold and more drop and lift when it is warmer. Weight would be dependent on depth and to an extent how patient you are. Also consider fall rate and action as it relates to overall weight. Typically I like 3/16 for most of my scenarios and I may adjust a bit either way as needed. The squid scent, action, and color options make these some of the best baits I have fished.
Their product line as a whole is very good and has caught me alot of fish. A go to lure company for me especially when I am on a tough bite. I think you really like em.
X2.
Very thorough and well written post, Kickerfish.
Bookmark this one.
Thanks hookseton3!
Once folks move past the price and to an extent the durability issues, and look at just their effectiveness, it is easy to see why they outstsnding baits.
I just have swimbaits hooks for these. Looks like I'm gonna have to hit up some jig heads fo sho lol
I fish them with j will and big hammer jig heads some. Mostly I just use EWG hooks, with or without a bullet weight out in front to get them down.
On 2/16/2014 at 5:16 AM, rippin-lips said:I'm not sure if the action will be the same but for those who can't find them but have a bps nearby this might be a good substitute. For me bps or cabelas is 2hrs away. Gander mtn and dicks are 1hr. Small town living at it's best haha
Dicks in Hagerstown had a bunch of them when I was there two weeks ago.
Allen
On 2/26/2014 at 11:59 PM, Munkin said:Dicks in Hagerstown had a bunch of them when I was there two weeks ago.
Allen
That's where these came from. They only carry the 3.8 fat and 4 regular.
The best jighead to use really depends on the cover you're dealing with
and whether you're fishing the bait as a subsurface, mid-depth or bottom lure.
For example, an exposed-hook jighead wouldn't travel 10 ft in the cover we fish.
Roger
On 2/27/2014 at 2:12 AM, RoLo said:The best jighead to use really depends on the cover you're dealing with
and whether you're fishing the bait as a subsurface, mid-depth or bottom lure.
For example, an exposed-hook jighead wouldn't travel 10 ft in the cover we fish.
Roger
Yeah I picked up some J Will style heads and I also have weighted swimbait hooks.
I really like both the standard and the Fat. I use the skinny ones most on the back of a jig or a spinnerbait. I like the Fat on a 4/0 weighted hook with a slow steady retrieve.
Both baits are good on the arig.
Tried them on scrounger heads and didn't produce as much as with a more conventional small swim trailer.
On 2/27/2014 at 2:16 AM, rippin-lips said:Yeah I picked up some J Will style heads and I also have weighted swimbait hooks.
You're loaded for bear
Good luck on the water
Thank you sir.
With temps in the 70's today I got to do some fishing at a nearby pond. A couple fish on a SK Trap and the ready came on the 3.8 bluegill flash. I was using an 1/8 oz head and letting it hit bottom then returned with a very slow retrieve. One bait produced probably 12 fish. Use glue so they will last longer. As these are my first swimbaits, I had a very good experience and they did great.
I need to try these.
keel weighted owner or lake fork swim-bait hook. A touch of chartreuse JJ's on the tail never hurts.
Bass pro now carries almost an identical SB to the Keitech's
http://www.basspro.com/Bass-Pro-Shops-Speed-Shad/product/1311080716305/
I like the Keitech's and Lake fork boot tail shads depending on presentation style I'm going for. The impacts action on the fall is second to none IMO. whereas the lake forks have a very exaggerated back and forth rolling action to them which gives a good flash between the color on bottom and on top of the bait, it seems to work good parallel to weedlines
i said i wasnt going to get the BPS brand when i was in store the other day but since they were on sale about $2 off, i grabbed the "sight fish" color white with a clear/flake back since i was wanting a white, and that was about the only color i had lacking in the Keitchs. ha
But wow do they look identical, they must be a hit cause they were pretty well picked over, especial the sight fish, and a sexy shad pattern looked to be the big seller of the bunch.
oh man heads up looks like TW has some new colors now... must... resist.. urge to... buy...
That smallmouth magic color looooooooks real good to me.
You guys realize they're made of Fukashima meltdown byproducts... I'd stop fishing them asap.
The new Sculpin color is sweeeeeeeeeeet.
I had a friend grab me a pack of the 4.8 bluegill flash bps brand just to compare them to the Keitechs. It's a perfect clone.
The profile might be darn near the same but keep in mind the soft plastic material used as well as the scent aspect. Swimming action and the shimmy on the fall also differ slightly. I have fished these knock offs and others as well. Success was average at best. I am sticking to the Keitechs. Same principle as a senko vs knock offs for me.