Jackall Giron 2024
Jtrout reply :
I went to my local lake today and stopped to talk to one of the guys I usually run into there and he showed me the giron he just bought then he casted it out to show me the swimming action it has it was amazing how that thing swam. He hooked into a fish five feet off the bank got me thinking I might get some. Anybody use them and wanna share your experience with it! Thanks
kickerfish1 reply :
Action is good casting not so much (helicopter like even without forcing it). If you can buy them discounted they are worth a spin otherwise I would pass.
MDBowHunter reply :
I bought some from a member here a year or so ago, and caught a ton of fish with them. I have a few bluegill and a few of the crappies. Right now they're tearing the bluegill up because of them spawning, I'm hoping for that pattern to last another week or two. I will also add that there's been a few days that they were the only thing that got hit, so with that in mind. That one $20 lure out fished a whole tackle bag full of $10 lures on more then one occasion, you do the math...
ETA: What I'm doing with them is fishing them over heavy grass, the bass are liking it to. I just figure it's a parental instinct thing, a bass sees a bluegill this time of year and they'll generally try and eat it.
kcdinkerz reply :
Bought some on sale last year they do catch fish but would I pay full price? Probably not
hatrix reply :
They are mehh to me. They catch fish no doubt but the cast like total garbage and I would not really classify them as a glide like the are labeled. They don't really glide for crap and have a super tight swim pattern. Also they sink super slow and that is a good thing but then it isn't. I would like them better if they got down a bit quicker and if you try to add weight to them it throws them all off. I have caught a couple in the 4-5 range but I never fish them any more. I also sand the joints down just a touch to get a bit wider swim.
primetime reply :
I can think of a house brand and a few other bluegill hardbaits that I would recommend in place of the Gyron if looking for a slow sinking Bluegill Swimbait....The Spro BBZ is a different shape but I like it much better, I also find the S Waver and savage Glides to be ok, but for the Money the Spro BBZ seems to be my favorite hard swimbait, Sebile magic swimmers which are long and thin, kind of a niche thing, but the Blackdog Shellcracker is good with a lip if you want a wake...
The Gyron is a great looking bait as are all Jackal lures. I have 2 and both sink slowly and do not cast well, and for the price I would rather have 6 Reaction Strike baits or bull bluegills which actually are more versatile. The academy bluegills are cheap and a steal but sink quickly and are legit as they stand on hooks etc, but are small baits, the BBZ in gill color in 4" is the way too go imo....
I like a fast sink most of the time, and I always get a slow as well since you can alter both easily, and suspending and wakes are all good...Check out the Egret swimbaits, I know the Kick a Mullet is way better than my Savage glide and S Wavers, Gyron's, and I even purchased some other brand that was crazy expensive but traded it, think it was a vagabond or something, the Herky Jerky Jr. is the best glide bait for pure gliding next to the Suick Musky baits etc...The River2sea Wide GLide is cool and fun to fish, but the 5" Herkey Jerky Jr. has a better roll and shimmy when suspends on the turn at 2' depth, plus colors are really good, Bomber has always made a killer glide bait I always thought they were for stripers only....American companies are catching up maybe because some were making the expensive lures, Jackall and most companies are not swimbait companies, somehow Spro got it right, and so did Egret which is Stanley I believe, and Sebile has a good lure but I don't put it in same class...Academy are chuck and wind gold...
Sea Salt reply :
I bought 2 today and caught 8 bass including a 4 pounder at sundown. I really like the swimming action but you can't twitch/glide it because it will roll over and foul. They always helicopter on the cast and occasionally foul up before it even hits the water. Overall they are good baits but you have to fish them pretty slowly and carefully.
CWB reply :
Great bait IMO. Great action on a slow, steady retrieve. Fish the Bluegill color around beds and hang on. 2 unique features. Stands straight up vertically on the bottom and stop it and it urns around 180 degrees like it's looking back to see what is following it. Not sure what people mean by "helicoptering" but have never experienced it. Couple good you tube videos on it. Learn to use them the way they were deigned to be used.
hatrix reply :
On 5/29/2015 at 10:06 AM, primetime said:I can think of a house brand and a few other bluegill hardbaits that I would recommend in place of the Gyron if looking for a slow sinking Bluegill Swimbait....The Spro BBZ is a different shape but I like it much better, I also find the S Waver and savage Glides to be ok, but for the Money the Spro BBZ seems to be my favorite hard swimbait, Sebile magic swimmers which are long and thin, kind of a niche thing, but the Blackdog Shellcracker is good with a lip if you want a wake...
The Gyron is a great looking bait as are all Jackal lures. I have 2 and both sink slowly and do not cast well, and for the price I would rather have 6 Reaction Strike baits or bull bluegills which actually are more versatile. The academy bluegills are cheap and a steal but sink quickly and are legit as they stand on hooks etc, but are small baits, the BBZ in gill color in 4" is the way too go imo....
I like a fast sink most of the time, and I always get a slow as well since you can alter both easily, and suspending and wakes are all good...Check out the Egret swimbaits, I know the Kick a Mullet is way better than my Savage glide and S Wavers, Gyron's, and I even purchased some other brand that was crazy expensive but traded it, think it was a vagabond or something, the Herky Jerky Jr. is the best glide bait for pure gliding next to the Suick Musky baits etc...The River2sea Wide GLide is cool and fun to fish, but the 5" Herkey Jerky Jr. has a better roll and shimmy when suspends on the turn at 2' depth, plus colors are really good, Bomber has always made a killer glide bait I always thought they were for stripers only....American companies are catching up maybe because some were making the expensive lures, Jackall and most companies are not swimbait companies, somehow Spro got it right, and so did Egret which is Stanley I believe, and Sebile has a good lure but I don't put it in same class...Academy are chuck and wind gold...
The spro baits are not even the same class of baits as they are multi jointed baits. A gyron only same with musky glides like the wide glide as they are basically a sinking spook.
Bluebasser86 reply :
I had one but wasn't a fan. Looked good in the water but never produced very well.
iceintheveins reply :
Used my new one that I acquired in a trade today. Love the action. Didn't catch anything on it but that's because the wind picked up and I picked up my old trusty spinnerbait and started rippin' lips.
primetime reply :
On 5/29/2015 at 11:16 AM, hatrix said:The spro baits are not even the same class of baits as they are multi jointed baits. A gyron only same with musky glides like the wide glide as they are basically a sinking spook.
I consider any segmented hard swimbait a "swimbait". Glide baits which the Gyron is technically classified as (I never put it there but many articles just toss it in with the glide baits, maybe it fits neatly in a category now for easier listing. The Gyron absolutely will glide if you work it with a pull and not a snap and it looks really good since it falls extra slow compared to most baits. I find that the smaller S waver Glide baits or segmented swimbaits as most of my friends call them are never good for gliding unless at least 140mm from my experiences, but then again, we all look for different attributes in a bait which is just a tool to do a job, so I would encourage you to buy the Gyron, I was excited when I purchased mine and I still carry them and use them occasionally if I have really clear water and the pattern looks like it may benefit me....
Now a days, glide baits and swimbaits have crossed, River2sea makes a Bass Wide Glide that is 120mm and now strike Pro, Salmo, Reaction Strike are making non segmented glides that float,suspend, sink slowly as small as 90mm.....I would call the Gyron a swimbait, and the Spro a swimbait, and the S Waver 168mm a hybrid swimbait/Glidebait, the 120 s waver glide bait I would call a stiff swimbait or as my friend said "The Hinges suck on this thing since he thought it was a swimbait"...It still get's bit as it will still glide a bit and it has great color, but the Wide Glide or Herky Jerky in any version are more effective for my style, I guess that was my point, I don't have time to even see I had one but I meant no disrespect to the Gyron, but I do have $5-$10 baits that are better imo, but this is fishing, we are not supposed to all like the same stuff, that is what makes it great...Have a great day and hope some of this rambling makes sense....I am from up North so I grew up around Glide baits for Large Gamefish and I like the work companies are doing to make smaller baits glide better.
primetime reply :
I know my point....The Giron is too small for a good glide and it is a bit stiff unless falling....I think they made it too light and small imo, but it will stand up right once it hits bottom...Colors are awesome, but I think I would buy the new version since Jackal Upgraded the bluegill, have not seen it yet though......
My point is the BBZ will swim, thump, sink at any rate, and yes It can glide even with more than one joint....Gliding and Joints are not always meant to be together as the same size Strike Pro Glide bait 90mm is not segmented and glides better than small lures with a hinge like the Jackal but that is just how I view it, I have only done well when the lure is sinking with a soft twitch which really any bluegill colored sinking bait can do, the reaction strike Bull Bream is the one that swims and glides, I forget all the brands, Lucky Craft has one, and Reaction Strike makes baits for so many companies I forget if they are strike pro, Reaction strike, or Bettencourt etc.....Check out overstock.com lots of cool bluegill baits but not the eye candy of the Jackal.
hatrix reply :
I have a gyron or I wouldn't be commenting about what I don't like. To me it is a stretch to consider it a glide. However people classify a bait is there own things I suppose and whatever works for them is fine. Yes it is light but also heavy for most bass lures as I think it weight 3/4 or a bit more. Usually small baits don't glide well because of weight. They don't make the forward momentum to keep carrying them or a big enough vortex to push them away. Having to snap or pull your rod to make them glide is usually not how it os done with 2 piece glides. To achieve the farthest and most fluid glide you use the reel and give you rod to it to create plenty of slack and no resistance from you. There are exceptions to small baits that still glide insanely far but I only know a few.
One of these doesn't really glide at all and the other I can get over 2' easily. Guess what one.
They are fairly close in size but one weighs a decent amount more. There is also a huge difference in craftsmanship and a big difference in price. You get what you pay for.
primetime reply :
I am not sure, probably neither imo but I prefer bigger glides and swimbaits for waking and walking, so I was simply saying for $20 a bbz is same size 100mm vs 90mm Giron and thought it may be a better fit...The bluegill shaped baits are sold as Glide baits on tackle warehouse with the S Curve sig etc. and I just wish it was larger, sluggish fish down here seem wary of the stiff gliders, but we seem to do better with the one piece glide baits since they suspend and roll on the turn after gliding. Maybe I have not given the Giron enough time but I am down with the Mikey and TN-70 so I am ok with losing money on a lot of swimbaits from a distributor that were and still are just not getting the reviews I expected and my friends as we thought the Giron at the time was going to take off and be a big seller...I wish you the best, I am still figuring my way around all the swimbaits and OEM's etc...fishing them and so far I like about half which I would say is normal for any bait category, some are expensive, some not so much but for whatever reason they stick...
I know where the Giron is made, who makes it, what factory, not hard to find and the OEM also makes some really good swimbaits and actually specializes in European Jerk baits or big musky Glides so go figure, they are getting better as the slider glides well for a 90mm bait at $10 and hovers like a champ. Florida bass seem to examine anything slow so maybe it is the harder cutting/gliding and rolling action or CTS that causes them to prefer the larger glides or more aggressive bass even when inactive.
Good luck, I hope you do well with the bait, maybe I am doing something wrong and one day will break out with my 2 older models but I have logged some time and the newer model is probably not as stiff as the newer model this year because the demo's in the tank did not ever help sell a Jackal Swimbait because you have to admit, either user error or bait defect, but it looks stiff as heck on you tube or their website....I can't toss expensive lures I pay more than $30 for down here because of Gar and Saltwater toothy predators getting into the rivers and lakes, but you are 100% correct with weight and how to work the bait, I never had the Giron in my hand before buying so when a salesman is calling it a glide bait, I am thinking Glidin Rap, Herky Jerky, Joe Bucher swimbait hybrid and just had my hopes up and the size and weight was a letdown, I learned MM quickly after that...
hatrix reply :
Ya it's confusing with the glide thing since musky glides have been around forever and are totally different. The 2 piece one are also known as swimmers so that kinda helps with the mixup. If you are looking for a good Jackal "swimmer" or just a good one that isn't a trout profile the Gantatell is nice and it is also cheap. If you can find one they are like 40 bucks. As for having better luck on the Gyron I have caught a good among of fish and a couple pretty big ones for my neck of the woods on it. It just is not a bait I care for over others so I never really fish it. I fished it last weekend just for kicks since it's been like a year and I got one on it. There just is not anything it really seem to excell at. I Know a guy out in Cali who paints baits and swears by them. He has shown me pictures of monsters he has got on them and it's a go to bait for him. It just isn't for me.
primetime reply :
I have been looking at the Gantatell, problem is if they are too pretty I get scared to throw it, and bad things happen when I am nervous casting expensive stuff..I was just having a glide swimbait discussion with a buddy and he made a good point when I mentioned how I liked the Sebile magic Swimmers for an all purpose swimbait in lots of sizes and fall rates, but I hate when they curl on the fall and stay locked as a dying baitfish goes stiff and moves, and I noticed this problem while walking my dog today and watching bass in a clear pond backing away from the smallest model when I killed it which is never a good sign and these are hungry stunted Bass anyone can catch. Ig am cool with a $10 lure only being on point 3/4 lures if it produces, but he just said one thing to change my thinking....Remember how awesome those savage and Sebile Soft Swimbaits were? I forgot how good that tungsten sliding system and how realistic the soft versions look, I would only use them on the big boy lakes, but I need to pony up and get some new trash fish, and really good soft swimbaits since they do look super natural and weeds are eliminated...and you can work them anyway you want....all kinds of tricks with nails and sliding weights....
Good luck rest of the year....I went an ordered the red River2Sea Wide Glide last night after watching Bass Hammering the suspender again, I have wanted that red color in suspending since it is awesome in floating....
primetime reply :
I think with many lures, first experience and confidence turn out to be the main factor if it becomes a bait that is in the rotation or not...If a friend who I know is a good topwater guy and he tells me I need to try the new Rover and just pay the extra money for the pro tuned, I would bet that I would do well the first time I use it as I will have high Expectations, will be focused and will also pick a good time and place to throw it...It would get best rod and reel as well....If I just picked one up in a clearance bin, I doubt it would ever separate itself...I like the Crème Mad Dad Swimbaits because a friend handed me a few as they handle the weeds really well and are a really good cheap swimbait, and I have given a few to friends who fish saltwater and they have not thrown it yet because "It needs rattles"....we are all crazy at the end of the day, but I do like buying those things and crème sends 4 random baits for $10 free shipping, I have about 30 and will be over this phase soon I am sure.
hatrix reply :
There is no reason to be afraid of a Gantarel. I don't really understand the bad things happen casting part. Even if you did backlash its not that heavy at only 2 oz so its very unlikely it will pop off. I will just assume you don't use braid so I wouldn't worry. It really isn't all that expensive anyways as far as "swimmers" go. It's the same price as TW sells S-Waver 200's now.
CWB reply :
Not sure how this became a discussion on glide baits but back to the Giron. Check the reviews and videos. Swims at slow to fast retrieve and when stopped, turns 180 degrees. Can also be waked and jerked. Deadly around the spawn.
*Hank reply :
The ganterel is a much better bait.
hatrix reply :
Well the Gyron is a "glide" bait
CWB reply :
On 5/29/2015 at 9:53 AM, hatrix said:They are mehh to me. They catch fish no doubt but the cast like total garbage and I would not really classify them as a glide like the are labeled. They don't really glide for crap and have a super tight swim pattern. Also they sink super slow and that is a good thing but then it isn't. I would like them better if they got down a bit quicker and if you try to add weight to them it throws them all off. I have caught a couple in the 4-5 range but I never fish them any more. I also sand the joints down just a touch to get a bit wider swim.
On 5/29/2015 at 11:16 AM, hatrix said:The spro baits are not even the same class of baits as they are multi jointed baits. A gyron only same with musky glides like the wide glide as they are basically a sinking spook.
On 5/29/2015 at 6:24 PM, primetime said:
On 5/30/2015 at 2:54 AM, hatrix said:I have a gyron or I wouldn't be commenting about what I don't like. To me it is a stretch to consider it a glide. However people classify a bait is there own things I suppose and whatever works for them is fine.
On 5/31/2015 at 7:06 AM, hatrix said:Well the Gyron is a "glide" bait
I'm not trying to start anything but a couple days ago it isn't a glide bait and now it is? I agree it does have a much tighter wiggle than glide baits as you stated and how you classify a bait is your decision. Maybe it should be classified as a hybrid? I don't know. You could probably call it either one. Like a Corvette is a car but not a Ford but they are both cars. Just know I like the GIRON and if you read the reviews on T.W. there is not one bad one. Others must like it too. Might not fit the bill as a "glide bait" though. But the O.P was asking for opinions on the GIRON and this kind of went off on a tangent. Curious how this compares to a sinking spook. You can walk the dog with it (which is part of it's versatility). Can't swim a Spook.
Hope the O.P got the answers he was looking for.
P.S. If you have any you do not want (that are not sanded down) send me a P.M. and maybe we can work out a deal.
Big C reply :
On 6/1/2015 at 1:03 AM, CWB said:
I'm not trying to start anything but a couple days ago it isn't a glide bait and now it is? I agree it does have a much tighter wiggle than glide baits as you stated and how you classify a bait is your decision. Maybe it should be classified as a hybrid? I don't know. You could probably call it either one. Like a Corvette is a car but not a Ford but they are both cars. Just know I like the GIRON and if you read the reviews on T.W. there is not one bad one. Others must like it too. Might not fit the bill as a "glide bait" though. But the O.P was asking for opinions on the GIRON and this kind of went off on a tangent. Curious how this compares to a sinking spook. You can walk the dog with it (which is part of it's versatility). Can't swim a Spook.
Hope the O.P got the answers he was looking for.
P.S. If you have any you do not want (that are not sanded down) send me a P.M. and maybe we can work out a deal.
Technically it is classified as a glide bait, but it doesn't perform well enough for Hatrix (and many others) to consider it as a "true" glide bait. You can't lump the Giron in the same class as the Megabass I Slide or Deps Slide Swimmer. Regarding the sinking spook thing, there is really only a handful (possibly only one) "non-jointed swimming glide bait" it being the Vagabond Glide Hustle.
CWB reply :
On 6/1/2015 at 2:23 AM, Big C said:Technically it is classified as a glide bait, but it doesn't perform well enough for Hatrix (and many others) to consider it as a "true" glide bait. You can't lump the Giron in the same class as the Megabass I Slide or Deps Slide Swimmer. Regarding the sinking spook thing, there is really only a handful (possibly only one) "non-jointed swimming glide bait" it being the Vagabond Glide Hustle.
I really don't think the O.P. cares if it is a glide bait or a buzzbait. He didn't ask what category of bait it fell in. He asked peoples opinions of it. That's all I'm saying. First 5 or so posts wer on topic then it went off in another direction.
He was asking opinions on how it worked, regardless of what category you choose to put it in. That's all. You either like it or you don't and why, should be all that is posted.
A spook you have to work with the rod. Most Musky jerk/glidebaits you have to work with the rod. Check out Rollie and Helen's or Thorne Brothers. (yeah, I fish for muskies too) I'm sure there are some swim/glide baits that do the same thing as a spook, which the Giron is one, but the spook has no action when reeled in directly so that should not even be a comparison.Nor should Musky glide baits.
Shouldn't get this complicated. Don't overthink stuff. Glidebaits vs. Swimbaits could be a topic for another day.
Big C reply :
On 6/1/2015 at 3:45 AM, CWB said:Glidebaits vs. Swimbaits could be a topic for another day.
I totally see your point, and (to a degree) agree with you.
But, glidebaits are swimbaits just a sub-category of them.
When you boil it all down we're just a bunch of nerds arguing about fishing lures. 
hatrix reply :
It has always been a glide bait Big C. It just doesn't really do it well. As for it turning into something other then why OP asked about. It still contained info about how it performs and what people thought. It did sorta turn into a side dicission about other stuff but it happens. Those posts still contain info that might be appealing to someone. It's not as if it was a discussion about what was or dinner.
primetime reply :
Everyone has their favorites and all my point was to offer suggestions of lures that may fit the bill better for $20, and I have never called it a bad bait, I just don't think it should be sold and marketed as a glide bait when it walks and really does not glide. I purchased mine when they first came out and swimbaits were new to me and when I think of a glide bait I think of Glide baits like the River 2 sea wide glide and was not aware that they were making glides in small sizes. I don't know about sanding them or whatever someone said fixes them but I am sure I like a bunch of lures other people think are junk but whatever...
The Giron really doesn't swim, it walks but when it comes to reviews, I challenge you to find bad reviews on expensive lures, it never happens except for a few people just trying to make a point. I know they are a quality lure but for the times I have tried them they have not produced for me, yet I do much better on other lures that are very similar...If you want to get really technical, the industry is moving in a direction to make one piece glides better seller's in the bass market since Musky and pike angler's have always done well with bass with the huge glides they throw and now Strike Pro and other Japanese high end companies are offering 1 piece bluegill colored and shaped glide baits that do one thing and that is glide....To me personally, trying to swim a giron is like swimming an S waver and it just doesn't swim well, I am sure I would like the new Ganteral much better as it looks fluid in the water and like all Jackall baits the finish on it is awesome and realistic. I just don't like getting bit off by gar with $40 lures and I don't have the money to spend or fish with a $40 lure, I would probably use wire because at that point it is not worth it for me, but if I made more money I am sure I would have lots of expensive lures because I have impulses to buy things I can't afford.
Not sure why people take it personal if you don't like a lure that they like. If you like the Giron for $20 and feel it is a good value, enjoy fishing it, then who cares what people say as you load the boat with fish....People ask for opinions all the time about lures and when someone suggests options to look at or things to try I look up the lure and I have found some winners by getting suggestions from other members which was a good thing. If you don't want to know other people's opinions than why read lure reviews anyway? Most people catch a 5 lber first cast anyway.
CWB reply :
Trust me, there was nothing personal taken, just that this was turned into a discussion about glide vs swimbaits, not "I like the Giron because ___" or "I don't like the Giron because ___, maybe check out XXX bait". Big C had it right and like I said about a Corvette being a car but not a Ford but a Ford is still a car. Glidebait should probably be a sub-category of Swimbait like listed on T.W.'s site. Yes, nerds we all are. Too much time and $$$ to spend on this kind of stuff. 
Let's put this to bed and get on to something else.
hatrix reply :
I want to say my posts were all kind of about how I don't like the giron. I think you would be better off spending your money elsewhere. Or just saving it for something better.
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