Im sure plenty of people on here will buy them, but I can almost get 3 original rattle traps, or 3 red eye shads for the price of 1 River 2 Sea bait. I know there are ones even more expensive on the market but it makes me giggle when someone tries to reinvent the wheel and charge you triple for it.
When it comes to fishing lures, it is rare when a company comes up with a unique one. That is not to say that all crankbaits, or spinnerbaits are the same and also why your 6XD may outproduce my Deep Little N. On days when it does, I want to have one at my disposal. If it cost three times my Norman bait, it's worth it to me. Besides that factor, there is the cost of production that goes into the final price of all our gear. The majority of anglers paid a much higher price for Rapala lures for decades because they were hand tuned and made from balsa, both of which added to the cost of production. I giggle too when I see baits costing $20+, because I would never pay that much. I also wouldn't pay $65K for a glorified Jeep, but that's just me.
I think I'm going to buy a couple dozen just to make you guys giggle.
Especially from R2S. I'm struggling to think of something they've made that I've been impressed with. I'm sure there is something, but it definitely is not coming to me at the moment. They always seem to come up with weird gimmicky type lures that look cool and don't work all that great.
BPS just had Traps 4/$10. If there's something better about the R2Sea, you coul do it to your Trap cheaper (add better hooks).
Having said that, my buddy uses only Cordell Spots. Reason is they are a darker gold. There are gold shiners where we use them year-round. I already had 2 Traps, so I'm sticking with that.
On 6/16/2015 at 8:45 PM, Master Bait said:Especially from R2S. I'm struggling to think of something they've made that I've been impressed with. I'm sure there is something, but it definitely is not coming to me at the moment. They always seem to come up with weird gimmicky type lures that look cool and don't work all that great.
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Spittin' Wa, Rover, Whopper plopper,S-Waver. All solid baits I use. I won't get the lip less because I'm partial to RES but I like their overall offerings.
On 6/16/2015 at 8:45 PM, Master Bait said:Especially from R2S. I'm struggling to think of something they've made that I've been impressed with. I'm sure there is something, but it definitely is not coming to me at the moment. They always seem to come up with weird gimmicky type lures that look cool and don't work all that great.
There wa frog is good and I like their bubble walker. The guys on TT gave the popper high marks but I am not a popper guy. I consider those the best lures but I don't like the trap I have from them.
The S-Waver and Rover are stud lures man.
I'm not big on $16 traps but to say they only produce gimmicky lures is a fallacy.
$15 for three 1/2 oz Rat-L-Traps, where I need to replace the hooks and frown when the paint comes off after a few fish.
$16.50 for three 1/2 oz Red Eye Shads, which I need to test and tune and retest. Good thing it has that seductive shimmy on the fall for when I get frustrated and throw them in the lake.
Yeah. Bargains, mate.
i like the s rover i have. also liked the wavers for the money, but got rid of them along with all my other swim baits. so i agree they make some decent stuff.
if you don't like it or want it, just move on.... that's the beauty of the free market....
On 6/16/2015 at 8:07 PM, deep said:I think I'm going to buy a couple dozen just to make you guys giggle.
I ain´t giggling.
Lucky Craft LC 500 is a $15+ lipless, you certainly don't want to waste your money on that lure!
Tom
I'm partial to the Xcaliburs. They run really good. As for gigglin' at a $12 lure. That's kinda pointless. I'm guessing that the guy fishing your lake with a $12 lure is beating the crap out of you when you fish with Bill Lewis Traps. I wouldn't fish Bill Lewis Traps after they discontinued my favorite color and raised their prices anyways. No reason for me to buy them anymore...
You can keep the RES. They are a ok bait and they are cheap. It is probabaly why they are so popular. I have plenty of traps that cost way more then a RES and they act like it to. Usually you get what you pay for in fishing lures. There is probably a reason one lure is $5 and another is $15.
On 6/16/2015 at 8:45 PM, Master Bait said:Especially from R2S. I'm struggling to think of something they've made that I've been impressed with. I'm sure there is something, but it definitely is not coming to me at the moment. They always seem to come up with weird gimmicky type lures that look cool and don't work all that great.
R2S definetly has their fair share of "gimmicky lures", but they have a handful of good lures, especially their frogs.
On 6/17/2015 at 1:11 AM, WRB said:Lucky Craft LC 500 is a $15+ lipless, you certainly don't want to waste your money on that lure!
Tom
I Did lol...and a jackall tn70 !
What lures they have are gimmicky?
On 6/17/2015 at 1:13 AM, jakob1010 said:I'm guessing that the guy fishing your lake with a $12 lure is beating the crap out of you when you fish with Bill Lewis Traps.
I'm gonna let that one slide cause your a kid and don't know any better.
On 6/17/2015 at 6:56 AM, Montanaro said:What lures they have are gimmicky?
Dahlberg Diver is border line gimmicky, they also had a crawfish crankbait (not the Clackin' Craw) that looked kinda cheesy. I just checked their website and it looks like most of the gimmicky stuff has been discontinued. They have some pretty cool stuff you can't get with any other company. They walk the line between different/creative and "gimmicky" pretty well.
Rat l traps work for me i aint worried about the paint i have a few that are white used to be chrome and they catch fish sitting in my tacklebox...im good with my 4$ traps and even cheaper ones work fine.btw if u think that about high dollar lures ill sell ya some prime ocean front property in Montana let me know
I saw them too. I thought they looked good, I think I'm going to buy a few. That Delta Craw pattern is killer.
On 6/17/2015 at 7:12 AM, Maxximus Redneckus said:ill sell ya some prime ocean front property in Montana let me know
How many acres?
The R2S bait weighs 7/8oz. The one ounce trap is $8.59...not a huge difference.
I have several lipless cranks> Rat L Traps, Lucky Crafts, Yo Zuri's version, XCalibur, Megabass, Rapala, etc.... They all catch fish. I like the XCaliburs the best but Lucky Crafts tend to catch more than most. Best bang for the buck will always the Rat L Trap though.
On 6/17/2015 at 6:58 AM, ww2farmer said:I'm gonna let that one slide cause your a kid and don't know any better.
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On 6/17/2015 at 1:13 AM, jakob1010 said:I'm partial to the Xcaliburs. They run really good. As for gigglin' at a $12 lure. That's kinda pointless. I'm guessing that the guy fishing your lake with a $12 lure is beating the crap out of you when you fish with Bill Lewis Traps. I wouldn't fish Bill Lewis Traps after they discontinued my favorite color and raised their prices anyways. No reason for me to buy them anymore...
So you quit buying a perfectly good bait because they discontinued your favorite color? Seems reasonable!
So do you have data showing where these $12 lures are out fishing the Lewis Traps so badly? If so, I'd really like to see that data because the fish in my lake haven't gotten that memo!
I could care less what anyone pays for a lure but, statements like yours are ridiculous.
River2Sea makes great baits with quality finishes and components. The Bubble Walker has been a killer for me this year. If the water ever clears up, I expect the Rovers to continue to produce like they did for a minute before the constant rains started and muddied everything up. Their squarebills are nice, and the Whopper Plopper has somewhat of a cult following around here but I've seen enough fish caught on it to know it works. $12 for a bait with good paint, hooks and split rings I don't have to change? Yeah, I'll probably try a couple.
I love river2sea baits I had one of the best days I've ever had fishing throwing a whopper plopper. The bubble walker has also produced for me. I think people might think they're gimmicks because Larry Dalberg has so many ideas for new baits. If you've ever watched his show the hunt for big fish you'd know what I'm talking about this guy is unbelievable. He's forgotten more about fishing then I could ever learn. The diver frog is junk but most other baits are pretty good quality. Just my 2cents.
I actually think the diving frog is a good lure "but" it's not like a cover water lure. It's more like you know where a fish is or might be and you only need to cover 5' of water. I actually caught a couple good fish like that but never really put time in with it. I think the legs ended up melting and I have the body somewhere. I guess its like a pitching frog if thats a good example. Toss it to a spot work it for a few seconds then rinse and repeat. That's how I see it working best and people having luck with them.
Well, I can't buy a Sparkle Perch colored trap anymore so what's the point. Its the only color of Bill Lewis I've ever fished. I've always gone with other baits for different finishes... No reason to buy from them anymore. Especially after they raised THEIR prices right after discontinuation of Sparkle Perch.On 6/17/2015 at 10:41 AM, jtharris3 said:So you quit buying a perfectly good bait because they discontinued your favorite color? Seems reasonable!
So do you have data showing where these $12 lures are out fishing the Lewis Traps so badly? If so, I'd really like to see that data because the fish in my lake haven't gotten that memo!
I could care less what anyone pays for a lure but, statements like yours are ridiculous.
On 6/17/2015 at 7:09 AM, Big C said:Dahlberg Diver is border line gimmicky, they also had a crawfish crankbait (not the Clackin' Craw) that looked kinda cheesy. I just checked their website and it looks like most of the gimmicky stuff has been discontinued. They have some pretty cool stuff you can't get with any other company. They walk the line between different/creative and "gimmicky" pretty well.
Y'know and this is why I maybe shouldn't have said gimmicky even though that's what came to mind first. Strange maybe? Different? I guess maybe it struck me as odd that they can make a huge wake bait for under $20 but the trap is $12.
I had the diving frog and that silly craw crank with the claws from a while back stuck in my mind but they do have some quality normal stuff. Never seemed to be an expensive-side company though even with the strangeness now and then but hey- The more I think of it those weird baits mean they're trying to think outside the box and I can respect that even if I'm not jacked up to throw it personally.
The diving frog for sure will catch fish. You just have to not compare it to other frogs as they don't fish the same at all. It's more like a backwards jig or t-rig. Instead of going from the bottom towards the surface it goes from the surface towards the bottom.
Seems like the Rover might be worth a try. The Biggie Smalls Spinnerbait and Squarebill look nice too.On 6/17/2015 at 7:21 PM, Master Bait said:Y'know and this is why I maybe shouldn't have said gimmicky even though that's what came to mind first. Strange maybe? Different? I guess maybe it struck me as odd that they can make a huge wake bait for under $20 but the trap is $12.
I had the diving frog and that silly craw crank with the claws from a while back stuck in my mind but they do have some quality normal stuff. Never seemed to be an expensive-side company though even with the strangeness now and then but hey- The more I think of it those weird baits mean they're trying to think outside the box and I can respect that even if I'm not jacked up to throw it personally.
On 6/17/2015 at 10:32 PM, jakob1010 said:Seems like the Rover might be worth a try. The Biggie Smalls Spinnerbait and Squarebill look nice too.
Lol I wonder of the Biggie Smalls works on the West Coast
On 6/17/2015 at 1:13 AM, jakob1010 said:I'm partial to the Xcaliburs. They run really good. As for gigglin' at a $12 lure. That's kinda pointless. I'm guessing that the guy fishing your lake with a $12 lure is beating the crap out of you when you fish with Bill Lewis Traps. I wouldn't fish Bill Lewis Traps after they discontinued my favorite color and raised their prices anyways. No reason for me to buy them anymore...
My 8 yr old grandson Aiden says "come on down you need a leason!"
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The constant chirp of the yerkes R2S monkey over my shoulder is getting to me.
I'd buy a few if they came in different sizes. R2S makes great stuff. Their previous lipless crank costed the same amount. The Tungsten Vibe. Caught plenty of smallmouth on them as I do most R2S baits
To you guys talking about replacing hooks, Bill Lewis traps now come standard with Triple Grips which have been more than good enough for me…
FWIW, Rattlin Raps are pretty good and not too pricey either.
All lures have their time and place. I love my high dollar lures, but ive also had days when i caught 3 times as many bass on 6 dollar bomber long a than i did on a 15 dollar pointer. As far as if the bait is worth 12 dollars, i personally wouldnt give that, bit i lose lipless baits like crazy because i usually fish them on bottom around cover. Amd if it had megabass wrote on the top, it would probably go for at least twice that
S-Waver, Whopper Plopper, Bubble Pop, Rover and Pro Tuned Rover... Just to name a few. Every one of them is a solid bait with super capabilities. I've never fished a bait from them that I didn't like.On 6/16/2015 at 8:45 PM, Master Bait said:Especially from R2S. I'm struggling to think of something they've made that I've been impressed with. I'm sure there is something, but it definitely is not coming to me at the moment. They always seem to come up with weird gimmicky type lures that look cool and don't work all that great.
That's a funny joke right there. Better watch out for suspicious black Suburbans while fishing!On 6/17/2015 at 10:41 PM, Master Bait said:Lol I wonder of the Biggie Smalls works on the West Coast
Just think the Megabass Vibration X is $21.99, so why fuss over a $12.00 bait?
On 6/19/2015 at 1:17 AM, *Hank said:Just think the Megabass Vibration X is $21.99, so why fuss over a $12.00 bait?
Worth every penny!
Only R2S lure I've used is the Bubble Popper and it is SWEET. Good action and nice components. If the lipless is built like the popper ill buy one for sure. Just going to wait for some reviews.
Bill Lewis. Made in America. Works. 5.00$.
Boom.
Every lure mentioned here sounds different then its competition. The size and profiles are different. For instance the LV500 is 3/4oz and is the same size as a half ounce rattle trap. Which one do you think is better in the grass? If people payed less attention to the price or where its made and more attention to the characteristics of the bait, they would catch more fish. Another fun fact... not all lipless baits rest upright on the bottom. It is about choosing the right tool for the job.
I don't see why a $12 hardbait is laughable
You could catch night crawlers for free, would that make buying $7 senkos a joke?
On 6/16/2015 at 11:58 PM, Cgrinder said:$15 for three 1/2 oz Rat-L-Traps, where I need to replace the hooks and frown when the paint comes off after a few fish.
$16.50 for three 1/2 oz Red Eye Shads, which I need to test and tune and retest. Good thing it has that seductive shimmy on the fall for when I get frustrated and throw them in the lake.
Yeah. Bargains, mate.
I like the hooks they have now and they continue to catch fish with the paint wearing off.
This statement I'm going to make is not aimed at you. Just a general statement. But what makes a lure company start the marketing of a brand new bait in a very crowded segment of the market at the very top of the price range? There are already much cheaper lipless cranks that work quite well. It would take a lot of pros telling me this was the best on the market to get me to pay $16 for it.
I'm sorry, but all you guys comparison R2S to Strike King in terms of quality, well I think you're insane. Yes, I can buy 2.5 red eye Shads for the price of 1. 2.5 baits that the paint chips off of and I should upgrade the treble hooks. R2S has always been a middle tier price lure company, similar to Yo Zuri. I just don't understand why it's so shocking this bait costs what it does. As I stated earlier, the previous version of this bait costed the same. The only reason the red eye shad became so popular is its ability to shimmy on the fall. And while it does the eyes fall off. I'll pick up a R2S hard bait and fish it days before I even consider tying on anything Strike King.