Hard Body Swimbaits???? 2025
bigbill reply :
I purchased some Matt lures in pumpkins and In bluegill. These are in soft plastics.
I just received some hard body swim baits that have hinged sectioned bodies. Does anyone use these?
Bluebasser86 reply :
Mattlures hardbass and hardgill, MS Slammer, Bull Shad, and S waver are some of my favorite hard baits.
CTGalloway21 reply :
Bull Shad and S-Waver, also Spro BBZ-1 6"
J Francho reply :
Yes, they don't work well, lol.
bigbill reply :
J.Franco
That's the hard plastic swimbaits with the hinged sections. I just found some in trout, rainbow & Brown colors beside a green shad, Dace colors too. I was wondering if these hard bodies had success too your pic answered that. I have some Matt lures in soft plastics too. I'll have to look into the other brands that are mentioned here too. I guess a small assortment of all the different swim baits sounds like a plan. I been carrying a 3600 Plano box of the smaller soft plastic swim baits on my fall trips in the past.
bigbill reply :
I just looked up some of the bull shad, ms slammer and S Waver swim baits with the cost of these I hope your using braided line. I know for certain I will be for sure.
I think it's time to get back on track with thinking big bait big bass......There is some proof to it when I upsize using the same lure the bigger fish will hit it. Maybe a plan would be to get the smaller interested first, this will attract the larger fish to see what the smaller bass are feeding on. But they won't charge in to hit the smaller lure for some reason. When I go to a larger lure they strike it
I've tested this theory a few times with success. Being a shore fisherman I'm fishing from one spot so I stay there and try different things. It seems to me the clue is when the smaller bass bite slows down the bigger bass are nearby. Maybe the bigger bass spook the smaller bass away so the smaller bite stops. I don't have all the answers but I know this upsizing the lure works. When in doubt go larger.
Now I'll have to try it with swim baits too. I wonder if it works with all the lures too like spinnerbaits. I've seen it work with inline spinners most of the time when the bite stops.
I try to keep an open tackle box when I'm fishing and try to understand why can the bite just shut down. What causes it. And how can I get it to continue. I know that when day turns to the evening near dusk when the bass bite is on and it stops by switching from a natural colored lure to one in a brighter color like chartreuse or firetiger I catch a few more fish till it gets dark. I read the basses eyes adjust to the changing light conditions faster than the bait fishes eyes. This is why we have an early morning bite and an evening bite.
It's understanding what's going on that causes these changes in the action and bite.
Raul reply :
On 11/5/2013 at 1:04 PM, bigbill said:I purchased some Matt lures in pumpkins and In bluegill. These are in soft plastics.
I just received some hard body swim baits that have hinged sectioned bodies. Does anyone use these?
If they are Matt´s then throw them away, they don´t work at all !
Just let us know where you threw them.
jiggz125 reply :
Mattlures are extremly expensive..how do you fish these? I was on there website, they do look very lifelike.
J Francho reply :
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I just looked up some of the bull shad, ms slammer and S Waver swim baits with the cost of these I hope your using braided line. I know for certain I will be for sure.
Braided line is far less forgiving when it comes to abrasion. Most of us that are throwing these baits (the one I pictured is a custom High Power Herring) are using very strong copolymer,, like 20-25# P-Line CXX.
Raul reply :
Expensive is not what I would call them, on the contrary, compared to other hand carved/made hard swimbaits Matt´s are actually budget priced ( look at Jerry Rago´s or Roman Made swimbaits for heart stopping prices ), how to depends on the swimbait type and waht you want the bait to work, sometimes it´s reeling it steadily, sometimes is reeling in - jerking/twitching, there´s no true answer.
BTW I hadn´t visited Matt´s page for a while and now that I´m at it ........ OH BOY ! those Jitterfish look AWSOM !!!!!!!!!!! ( misspelling is intentional ), they even got metal lip that I can "doctor" ! ( kinda an oversized but not that beefy Jitterbug ) kool !!!!!
jiggz125 reply :
On 11/6/2013 at 2:29 AM, Raul said:Expensive is not what I would call them, on the contrary, compared to other hand carved/made hard swimbaits Matt´s are actually budget priced ( look at Jerry Rago´s or Roman Made swimbaits for heart stopping prices ), how to depends on the swimbait type and waht you want the bait to work, sometimes it´s reeling it steadily, sometimes is reeling in - jerking/twitching, there´s no true answer.
BTW I hadn´t visited Matt´s page for a while and now that I´m at it ........ OH BOY ! those Jitterfish look AWSOM !!!!!!!!!!! ( misspelling is intentional ), they even got metal lip that I can "doctor" ! ( kinda an oversized but not that beefy Jitterbug ) kool !!!!!
Well for the poorman that cannot afford $50+ baits, would you suggest something like the Spro BBZ1 shad? Obviously not as life like but still same idea as the Mattlures..
bigbill reply :
I purchased one pumpkinseed at Matt's sight and I found a two fer one sale on eBay it's probably the older models there a tad smaller of the female version.
I had Terry Clark of Tclark Custom lures years ago make me larger lures of sunfish. One sits on its side so it looks like a wounded sunfish with a disc at its mouth for the topwater slash. The others are larger real looking crankbaits. His work and talent looks so awesome I'm not sure wether to use them or frame them. I had Terry repaint all my older colors in bass colors. I purchased new larger pike lures and have them in awesome bass colors too. I purchased peacock bass lurjensen lures and had them repainted in bass colors too. The man does awesome work. Just some info.
I need to get over the sticker shock and just buy it. With some of these awesome looking swim baits. Since I'm a color freak I can't just have one. A mix of natural colors and brighter colors will do for the different water conditions.
I'm showing my age when I say I have a box of the original flukes in it. I have a monster fluke still in its original package with the hook it came with. But the Renosky
Scattering Shad was the first swim bait to really work for me in the beginning. Now I look at what we have in offerings today and I just say wow. Then I look back at were it started and can't believe I caught fish on some of the solid color lures. I wonder where the new manufacturing technology will take the lure industry next?
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 11/6/2013 at 2:17 AM, J Francho said:Braided line is far less forgiving when it comes to abrasion. Most of us that are throwing these baits (the one I pictured is a custom High Power Herring) are using very strong copolymer,, like 20-25# P-Line CXX.
Nothing quite a sickening as casting off an expensive swimbait. Have yet to have it happen with copolymer, and haven't had any problem handling any of the swimbait fish I've caught with it.
On 11/6/2013 at 2:50 AM, jiggz125 said:Well for the poorman that cannot afford $50+ baits, would you suggest something like the Spro BBZ1 shad? Obviously not as life like but still same idea as the Mattlures..
I'm going to try to do this without sound like a jerk or bait snob, as I understand how hard it is to pop for a $50 bait when money is tight as it is for me.
Would you rather buy 1 really good bait that cost $50, or a mediocre bait for $20? I've had a couple of the BBZ baits, and they're solid baits and will catch you fish, but never did they produce anything near what my Mattlures or Bull Shads have. Once you buy them they should last you a long time as long as you don't let any toothy fish steal them from you, which I understand is almost impossible to prevent at times.
If you do go with a BBZ, I would highly suggest the 6" floater over the BBZ shad. The BBZ shad just never did anything to impress me and I believe only ever caught me one fish out of all the times I threw it.
Primus reply :
On 11/6/2013 at 2:50 AM, jiggz125 said:Well for the poorman that cannot afford $50+ baits, would you suggest something like the Spro BBZ1 shad? Obviously not as life like but still same idea as the Mattlures..
2 good entry level swimbaits are the River to Sea S Waver & the 6" Spro BBZ in the slow sink. I throw most swimbaits on 20 lb Trilene Big Game though I do throw the River to Sea on 14 lb Floro.
jiggz125 reply :
On 11/6/2013 at 2:48 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Nothing quite a sickening as casting off an expensive swimbait. Have yet to have it happen with copolymer, and haven't had any problem handling any of the swimbait fish I've caught with it.
I'm going to try to do this without sound like a jerk or bait snob, as I understand how hard it is to pop for a $50 bait when money is tight as it is for me.
Would you rather buy 1 really good bait that cost $50, or a mediocre bait for $20? I've had a couple of the BBZ baits, and they're solid baits and will catch you fish, but never did they produce anything near what my Mattlures or Bull Shads have. Once you buy them they should last you a long time as long as you don't let any toothy fish steal them from you, which I understand is almost impossible to prevent at times.
If you do go with a BBZ, I would highly suggest the 6" floater over the BBZ shad. The BBZ shad just never did anything to impress me and I believe only ever caught me one fish out of all the times I threw it.
No, that does help and does make sense. I was just wondering as I have never used them before maybe a more entry level bait before I go spend $50 plus dollars and possibly lose it to a pike or just dont like them. I appreactiate your suggestions.
SPEEDBEAD. reply :
Swimbaits are dumb.
Drop shot a pink buzzbait for the fish of a lifetime! 
WRB reply :
R2Sea S Waver is a glide bait, not a traditional swmmer. You fish the S waver like a slow motion jerk bait.
CPBassFishing reply :
sissy droppin all day!On 11/7/2013 at 1:45 AM, SPEEDBEAD. said:Swimbaits are dumb.
Drop shot a pink buzzbait for the fish of a lifetime!
Cburgert reply :
The BBZ Jr and the eight inch always worked for me.
Cburgert reply :
Calling swimbaits dumb just means you have no idea how to use them!
Dwight Hottle reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 9:58 AM, CBurgert said:Calling swimbaits dumb just means you have no idea how to use them!
I hope you said that tongue in check.
Cburgert reply :
Mind your own business! I wasn't talking to you. Dude called swimbaits dumb and I said he doesn't know how to use them .
Dwight Hottle reply :
Dumb is as dumb does. Do a little research before you embarrass yourself.
Jrob78 reply :
LOL, a 12 yr old bringing up a year old thread to run his mouth in such an ironic fashion. Priceless
A-Jay reply :
On 1/4/2015 at 10:27 AM, Cburgert said:Mind your own business! I wasn't talking to you. Dude called swimbaits dumb and I said he doesn't know how to use them .
With 47,321 forum members to date - as soon as you click that Post tap - all your submissions become everyone's "Business"
But welcome back anyway.
A-Jay
deep reply :
Bring on the banhammer Speed.
Oh wait, wrong website!
Cburgert reply :
I miss spoke. I should have read the whole post before posting a pointless rambling.
J Francho reply :
Yup. And we're done here.
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