I'm sure this is a thread somewhere, but what are your favorite hook types for plastics? All rigs and why? I'm curious to which has the best hook up ratio for you.
Thanks
I use a straight shank for punching and wide gaps for all other rigs.
I use flipping hooks for flipping creature baits. For tricks and ribbon tails and brush hogs I use offset round bend 3/0-4/0. Everything else I use EWG.
EWG no questions.
Straight shanks are the most common method for punching, but a lot of people use EWG as well. I personally like texas rigging a bait on a EWG for punching, I think it hides the hook better.
I’ve been using more EWG hooks lately, but this year I might try going back to regular worm hooks. There’s lots of bottom vegetation where I fish. 1 caught fish or snag in some grass and the Tex-posed hook becomes exposed, snagging grass every time I cast it out. Gets annoying after a while.
For most worms, a round bend offset, 3/0 - 5/0. Big worms (culprit Fat Max, etc.), lizards and craws, EWG 3/0 - 5/0, whatever size fits the bait.
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I use regular offset hooks for most plastics and only use EWG's for fat baits that require it. I choose a hook with a gap slightly larger than twice the width of the bait .
In the past I have used EWG hooks for everything. This year I am going to try some round bend offset hooks to see what happens.
I'm curious if anyone thinks they get a better hook up percentage with the traditional round bend vs wide gap
I think you get a better hook up with offsets over EWG's .
On 2/20/2018 at 2:45 AM, Finnz922 said:I'm curious if anyone thinks they get a better hook up percentage with the traditional round bend vs wide gap
Absolutely ????
I have been using Mister Twister Keeper hooks successfully for 25 years for just about everything plastics related. They have caught me hundreds (thousands?) of bass. I see no reason to change now.
Gam ewg hooks in the apprioriate size. Better hookup ratio for me personally.
On 2/19/2018 at 11:09 PM, Catt said:
This for anything under 10". G-lock mag worm hook for anything over 10"
Truturn 3 ought was always my go to, but started using Gamahatzu last year and like em better. I believe I have a better hook up ratio on my 7in Red Shad . {My Fav}
Owner twist locs for Senko type baits, offset round bends for worms.
On 2/20/2018 at 2:45 AM, Finnz922 said:I'm curious if anyone thinks they get a better hook up percentage with the traditional round bend vs wide gap
Yes, I use straight shank for pitching and flipping, and round bend offset for everything else.
Owner twistlocks for all worms. Jungle hooks for creatures. Straight shanks just have that hook up ratio.
For when I texas rig: I've tried quite a few of the options around for worms and other plastics... for me an EWG offset in 2/0-3/0 usually works the best cause there is always underwater debris. The round bends don't texpose worth a bean. The more abrupt angle of the EWGs just work better for me. I have tried the twistlock stuff... they hold the bait well but I hate how the hooks sit in the plastic. The owner ones are closest to the standard EWGs but I dislike how the twistlock is attached. I've had those snap some lines because of how they sit inside the eyelet.
Topwater: I don't do this often because there's never any interest in them, but a round bend offset will work fine for this by theory.
For wacky rigs: with lighter baits, I prefer a small weighted jig intended for this. For heavier baits a finesse hook usually works just fine, sans the weed guard. Weed guards cost me hook-ups, I just never can get them to set. Spinshot hooks also work well for wacky worming on dropshot rigs.
@FishDewd ya don't Texpose straight shank hooks!
What puzzles me is most anglers use straight shank round bend hook for punching heavy cover. When I ask em why they say "fast solid hookups"; ya don't want that the rest of the time why?
Last year, I put away the ewg for offset round bends and glad I did for any worms up to 7 inches
On 2/20/2018 at 7:25 PM, NHBull said:Last year, I put away the ewg for offset round bends and glad I did for any worms up to 7 inches
Worms or all plastics up to 7"?
Have you looked at the new McClelland hybrid from Gamakatsu?
Straight shank/ flipping hooks. Preferrebly the Gamakatsu Heavy Duty Worm Hook. Sometimes I will use offset round bends but I hate EWGs.
Gama EWG for just about everything. Got a few packs of berkely fusion hooks (3/0 EWG, dropshot, flipping, and swimbait) I am going to try out this year
On 2/20/2018 at 7:14 PM, Catt said:@FishDewd ya don't Texpose straight shank hooks!
What puzzles me is most anglers use straight shank round bend hook for punching heavy cover. When I ask em why they say "fast solid hookups"; ya don't want that the rest of the time why?
I said round bends not straight shanks... I was talking about offset worm hooks.
I switched to stright shanks for most everything last season and it was remarkable how easy it was to make hooksets with thicker/tougher plastics (Rage Menace) with a light and soft rod (Light/ModFast BFS).
I still use offset round bends and Owner Twistlocks for some things, mosty lures that get ripped through grass or for small swimbaits like Fat Impacts.
The only thing I still really use EWGs for is flukes. I like the VMC long shank ones as it puts the weight of the hook near the middle of the lure so it falls mkre horizontally. I do use stright shanks on them as well and the hookups are better though.
Anglers have their preferences for various reasons . For you newer anglers before rigging your bait hold it up next to the hook and see how it matches . Straight shanks and regular offsets are not designed to be tex-posed or skin hooked .You will end up with a kink in the lure and risk excessive line twist. Bury that point in the meat of the bait . EWG's are designed for Tex-posing and skin-hooking .
On 2/20/2018 at 10:50 PM, FishDewd said:I said round bends not straight shanks... I was talking about offset worm hooks.
Ya don't texpose these either ????
On 2/21/2018 at 8:33 AM, Catt said:
Ya don't texpose these either ????
Indeed not, I learned that one the hard way already lol. I don't use those very often cause waters here nearly always require a hidden point.
On 2/21/2018 at 8:33 AM, Catt said:
Ya don't texpose these either ????
It took me embarrassingly long time to accept that. I was 100% sure that I would never get a hookset with the point buried in the middle of a worm. I also wondered why my worms kept ripping at the nose......
I still look at a worm rigged on an offset or straight shank and think "this is never going to work". but it most always does.
On 2/21/2018 at 9:02 AM, FishDewd said:Indeed not, I learned that one the hard way already lol. I don't use those very often cause waters here nearly always require a hidden point.
Those hooks are designed to be buried in the lure .
On 2/21/2018 at 9:34 AM, scaleface said:Those hooks are designed to be buried in the lure .
Ah, well I have a hard enough setting them when they are texposed... don't think I'll be trying that one. I just use those exposed if I think I can get away with it, like in an area I know I won't get snagged.
If ya can't set hook hard enough to drive a hook point through soft plastic ya may wanna consider taking up knitting!
It's not that I can't, it's a timing issue. Since bass usually take that kind of lure on the fall, by the time I've reeled in and set it, they're already gone. Plus, I'd be afraid of gut hooking one with that kind of round bend embedded rig. Tex-posing doesn't require much of a hook set when done properly. The strike from the fish should help to pop the hook tip out of the lure so you can lift the pole and set it in a controlled fashion. I will never use a power set on what I believe to be a small fish, that's just mean and unnecessary. I come from a background of catfishing.. With catfish, they just tend to inhale it, unlike bass which can take it so lightly I may not even notice until they spit it. So maybe that's the reason I don't use hard hook sets. But trust me... I can. I just prefer not to. Hence why I like drop shots, it's very gentle on the fish. I just have a lot of respect for nature and life and do not personally believe in ripping a hole in a fishes mouth just to catch it.
On 2/21/2018 at 11:37 AM, FishDewd said:It's not that I can't, it's a timing issue. Since bass usually take that kind of lure on the fall, by the time I've reeled in and set it, they're already gone
That operator error not hook design
On 2/21/2018 at 11:37 AM, FishDewd said:The strike from the fish should help to pop the hook tip out of the lure so you can lift the pole and set it in a controlled fashion
The strike from the fish does nothing to expose the hook point! The hook point is exposed when you apply pressure.
On 2/21/2018 at 11:37 AM, FishDewd said:. I will never use a power set on what I believe to be a small fish, that's just mean and unnecessary
The lightest most subtle bite will usually be fro the biggest bass. Tighteyes have to aggressively attack the lure, big momma can vacuum it in front a foot away.
On 2/21/2018 at 11:37 AM, FishDewd said:it's very gentle on the fish. I just have a lot of respect for nature and life and do not personally believe in ripping a hole in a fishes mouth just to catch it.
With big bass (6-8#) in heavy cover ya wanna turn her head, get her coming up in one motion on the hook set!
Or you can let her have control, wrap you up, break you off, & leave her with a hook in her jaw.
On 2/21/2018 at 11:37 AM, FishDewd said:It's not that I can't, it's a timing issue. Since bass usually take that kind of lure on the fall, by the time I've reeled in and set it, they're already gone. Plus, I'd be afraid of gut hooking one with that kind of round bend embedded rig. Tex-posing doesn't require much of a hook set when done properly. The strike from the fish should help to pop the hook tip out of the lure so you can lift the pole and set it in a controlled fashion. I will never use a power set on what I believe to be a small fish, that's just mean and unnecessary. I come from a background of catfishing.. With catfish, they just tend to inhale it, unlike bass which can take it so lightly I may not even notice until they spit it. So maybe that's the reason I don't use hard hook sets. But trust me... I can. I just prefer not to. Hence why I like drop shots, it's very gentle on the fish. I just have a lot of respect for nature and life and do not personally believe in ripping a hole in a fishes mouth just to catch it.
I think your being slightly stubborn . This texas rig thing has pretty much been proven and perfected .
Yea, I fish trickworms rigged on a 3/0 offset or round bend hook with a Light/Mod-ishFast casting rod spooled with 6-8lb stretchy floro. I only tend to miss hooksets when my mind is wandering and I neglect to get all the slack out before I set.
When I want/need to make a long cast or keep my line more slack then ususal, I take the hook point and skin hook it into the side of the worm. This still keeps it mostly weedless but takes almost no force to pop it free.
On 2/21/2018 at 7:40 PM, Catt said:The strike from the fish does nothing to expose the hook point! The hook point is exposed when you apply pressure.
I can squeeze a bait and the point starts to poke through so I assumed that was a fair assumption to make. Doesn't take much to make it come through.
On 2/21/2018 at 7:40 PM, Catt said:With big bass (6-8#) in heavy cover ya wanna turn her head, get her coming up in one motion on the hook set!
Or you can let her have control, wrap you up, break you off, & leave her with a hook in her jaw.
Fair enough, but we don't have bass that large here, at least not where I fish from banks. I'm lucky to find one that's a pound.
On 2/21/2018 at 10:10 PM, fishwizzard said:When I want/need to make a long cast or keep my line more slack then ususal, I take the hook point and skin hook it into the side of the worm.
I do that to .
When fishing an area where snags are unlikely ,I just run the hook all the way through and leave it .