Is there a frog that weighs at least 5/8oz and has a body softer than a spro bronzeye? Or is there a way that i can make my spro softer so that i can see the whole fish in my hands instead of a splash on the water?
Try taking a look at the strike king Ragetail Frog. Its like a big ssquishy marshmellow, rig it weedless or texas-rigged on a EWG hook
oh sorry i forgot to metion i was lookin for a floating hollow bodied frog.
swamp donkey's are good if you can find them. I found out if you leave a spro on your dash in your car on a hot day it will soften them up a little, also ive heard of people using hairdryers haven't tryed that myself though.
river2sea bully wa is really good to i defiantly feel like they hook up better than the spros.
http://www.***.com/River2Sea_Bully_Wa_Frog/descpage-RBW.html
and tackle warehouse just so has them 20%off ... ;D ;D
Snag Proof, Bobby's Perfect frog,or there new Phat Frog is going to be a BIG hit this year!
RIVER2SEA BULLY WA FROG its way better than spros or snagproof or phat i catch more on river2sea than spro and snagproof and phat frog combined
QuoteRIVER2SEA BULLY WA FROG its way better than spros or snagproof or phat i catch more on river2sea than spro and snagproof and phat frog combined
The phat frog is new,or maybe you had a prototype to make that statement?
i was in florida 2 weeks during winter right after phat was relased and i bought it but river2sea outfishede 3-1 so guess proves it that river2sea is frog to beat
River 2 Sea.
Quotei was in florida 2 weeks during winter right after phat was relased and i bought it but river2sea outfishede 3-1 so guess proves it that river2sea is frog to beat
I like both the Bobby's Perfect and the River2Sea.
Haven't tried the Phat Frog but can't wait.
I'm always a bit skeptical when someone says something outfished something else 3-1 or 4-1. If one was working that good, did you put the one back on that was not so hot just for laughs and to try to not catch fish? I usually switch when a bait isn't working.
Now if a buddy was using one and you were using something else and doing better, that might make sense. But still, if I saw my buddy catch 3 to my one, I would switch pretty quickly. I think with frogs, if you put any frog in the right place at the right time, it's gonna get bit. It's about hooking and catching percentage. I think snagproof give you the best hooking percentage as they are a tad softer, but the R2S does walk the frog a bit better.
QuoteQuotei was in florida 2 weeks during winter right after phat was relased and i bought it but river2sea outfishede 3-1 so guess proves it that river2sea is frog to beatI like both the Bobby's Perfect and the River2Sea.
Haven't tried the Phat Frog but can't wait.
I'm always a bit skeptical when someone says something outfished something else 3-1 or 4-1. If one was working that good, did you put the one back on that was not so hot just for laughs and to try to not catch fish? I usually switch when a bait isn't working.
Now if a buddy was using one and you were using something else and doing better, that might make sense. But still, if I saw my buddy catch 3 to my one, I would switch pretty quickly. I think with frogs, if you put any frog in the right place at the right time, it's gonna get bit. It's about hooking and catching percentage. I think snagproof give you the best hooking percentage as they are a tad softer, but the R2S does walk the frog a bit better.
X2,Well said! I have never fished the river2sea frog so I can't make any pro's or con's about it. But I can say I have fished many hallow frogs and the Bobby's Perfect frog has the very best hookup of any frog that I have fished.
If you are using braid and a suitable rod and still can't hook up with a Spro then you need to work on your hookset.
That said, I fish with Spro and Tru-Tungsten frogs
Stay away from the River 2 Sea Step Wa frog. It sucks. You have to get the retrieval speed just right. Too slow and it has no action. A bit too fast is dives and spins. You have to fish it the same speed every time.
i think you need to Waite until after the blow up and actually feel the fish pull, i know its hard trust me but it might just work for ya
R2S is by far the best frog i have ever used period. The keel is more defined so it has more action than others and is easier to get that action. Also a lot softer than any frog i have used. Who ever can't use one of these really needs to practice!
River2Sea Bully Wa .........enough said, now "Get er done."
Now the tru tungsten frogs have a softer body. I read a review on Bass pro and the man said it was now super soft and he almost 99% of the time hooks up.
I like the scum frogs with the paddle tails, great action, and the hook up ratio seems to be good with them.
If your not hooking up your frog fish, I really feel that you need to look inward rather than trying to solve the problem by switching brands. Has anyone ever seen a bass come up and eat a frog. It ain't nice. Do you really think a frog that might be "softer" is going to increase your hook up ratio? Were talking about a fish that can break a hard plastic bait in half because of how hard they eat it. Don't tell me that your not hooking them up because the frog is to hard.
Work on your hookset. Most people think they are hitting the fish hard, but they aren't setting it nearly hard enough. You gotta set it with meaning. Switch brands if you want, but if you don't know how to set the hook right, your gonna keep missing em.
QuoteIf your not hooking up your frog fish, I really feel that you need to look inward rather than trying to solve the problem by switching brands. Has anyone ever seen a bass come up and eat a frog. It ain't nice. Do you really think a frog that might be "softer" is going to increase your hook up ratio? Were talking about a fish that can break a hard plastic bait in half because of how hard they eat it. Don't tell me that your not hooking them up because the frog is to hard.Work on your hookset. Most people think they are hitting the fish hard, but they aren't setting it nearly hard enough. You gotta set it with meaning. Switch brands if you want, but if you don't know how to set the hook right, your gonna keep missing em.
So true. Some people have no idea what "crossing their eyes" even looks like, let alone how to do it properly. (I'm not speaking of anyone here in particular or anything, just making a general statement)
when i have this problem i do two things add a # 4 or 6 triple grip hooks over the hooks on frog and also just open the hook opening a little, not to much and set hook as on a worm they say wait not me maybe iam slow
I was in the middle of them summer and did a head to head between R2S and Spro. I'm buying R2S.
Quoteriver2sea bully wa is really good to i defiantly feel like they hook up better than the spros.http://www.***.com/River2Sea_Bully_Wa_Frog/descpage-RBW.html
and tackle warehouse just so has them 20%off ... ;D ;D
yes i bought one in every color
The River2Sea Bully Wa has conquered my tackle box this past year. I had issues with the Spro frog at times, but my consistency improved with the Bully Wa. I still fish frogs from both companies.
Now that the Diver Frog is out though, River2Sea has the upper hand completely.
To the angler who said the Bully Wa flipped and dove nose down: Are you fishing straight braid?
Mono and Fluoro leaders would eliminate that issue if you are fishing straight braid.
I'll take all the Spro frogs off the hands of the people who don't know what there doing with them. Like senko_77 said, the problem is you, not the frog. And for everyone who switch's frogs and magicly starts hooking up, I bet you also started fishing them right. I have fished every brand of frog on the market, except for the new Koppers,and have caught fish on every one, there are reasons I choose the Spro as the frog I use now. IMHO the R2S is garbage. The only other frog I keep around is Snag proof's "Bobbys Perfect frog" but they fall apart easy, so I hardly use them any more, and when what I have is gone I'll be 100% Spro.
Quotei think you need to Waite until after the blow up and actually feel the fish pull, i know its hard trust me but it might just work for ya
I second that. If you use 50lb braid (minimum) and a stout rod then the spro frog is plenty soft enough to penetrate the hooks. 9 times out of 10 when people are having trouble hooking up with hollow body frogs it's technique error. Like the other guys have said, let them blow it up and take it down. Wait until you feel the weight of the fish, take up the slack and put the hammer down. You'll hear "count to 10" or something similar - well sort of - it's more of a feel thing. It might be 3 seconds, it might be 15.
I hook up 90% of fish like this on a spro bronzeye. I use primarily SPRO frogs and I never make hook modifications. Also, don't think of it like a plastic worm or jig - they won't spit it out. My theory here is that they want to reposition the frog in their mouth to swallow it head first, so they take it to a safe location in their mouth before attempting to swallow. I've waited on fish 10, 20 seconds - set the hook and its right in the top of the mouth like it should be. Anyway I've gone off on a tangent. Long and short - wait longer before you set the hook.
I don't wait very long at all to stick them. There is a gap, but that's just the time it takes for my eyes to see that the frog is gone.
If it looks like this, you're doing it right:
What I did to help with the hook up ratio, was take a pair of pliers, and bend the hooks upward away from the body, not alot, but just enough to where there is a little more space between them and the frog body. I don't know if it actually makes a big difference, but it gives me the confidence of allowing the fish to get hammered when I try to break it's back on the hookset.
I also think where you are fishing it has alot to do with the hookups you'll get. If you cast it on top of a mat of slop, and get a blowup chances are the fish will inhale a bunch of slop around the frog too and you'll be lucky if you get a hook in him. Had that happen enough to know. Set the hook and all you get back is a frog covered in moss or other gunk. If you're fishing pads, or other overhead cover like that, your odds will be better but the fish could still miss or only get a leg.
If you're fishing more open water with no overlaying cover on top as in the video, you will not have near the hookup issues, especially if the fish are as suicidal as those were! As Senko said, set the hook as hard as you possibly can and crank for all your'e worth. I set the hook so hard that I almost throw my partner off the back of the boat and still do not connect sometimes due to reasons listed.
Froggin' and Rage Shadding are my favorite ways to fish.
I used to wonder about the blowups that miss. I'm talking the ones that off by a foot or more. I figured out that they weren't misses at all, but direct hits.....on little sunnies and gill following my frog, LOL.
QuoteI used to wonder about the blowups that miss. I'm talking the ones that off by a foot or more. I figured out that they weren't misses at all, but direct hits.....on little sunnies and gill following my frog, LOL.
Great observation! That drove me nuts also. You might be on to something. I remember Scumfrog made a lure with 2 toads about a foot apart. Don't know if it ever caught on. (pardon the pun)
Get a Mattlures Hard Gill Floater, and you'll prove it to yourself in slobs.
QuoteQuoteI used to wonder about the blowups that miss. I'm talking the ones that off by a foot or more. I figured out that they weren't misses at all, but direct hits.....on little sunnies and gill following my frog, LOL.Great observation! That drove me nuts also. You might be on to something. I remember Scumfrog made a lure with 2 toads about a foot apart. Don't know if it ever caught on. (pardon the pun)
Same here. Had a pike miss my frog by a foot three times. This fish came completely out of the water on each occasion. My fishing partners were yelling "you're working it too fast...too fast." I told them I thought the fish was blind. I got him on the next blow up.
QuoteIs there a frog that weighs at least 5/8oz and has a body softer than a spro bronzeye? Or is there a way that i can make my spro softer so that i can see the whole thing in my hands instead of a splash on the water?
Is that what YOU call IT, Spro Jr.? :-? :-?
QuoteStay away from the River 2 Sea Step Wa frog. It sucks. You have to get the retrieval speed just right. Too slow and it has no action. A bit too fast is dives and spins. You have to fish it the same speed every time.
Thanks. I've been eyeballing this one for a while now. It doesn't really sound like its for me then.
I have no prob with spro, but the new improved tru-tungsten frog is much softer, but it has too be the new one the older ones are harder than the spro.
Change your set up... lf your not hookin up with a spro there is something else wrong.