I'm thinking of getting a couple Johnny Morris rod for BPS. Good? bad?
I've never fished with one but have been in BPS, picked one up a few times and toyed with it. Very light, nice feeling rod. Beyond that though I can't comment on how they fish.
they are fantastic rods that are as good as anything out there.they don't have a lifetime warranty but then again they don't cost what most lifetime warranty rods cost.they have by far the best reel seat made.they also use the best guides made= fuji titanium framed sic guides.i love my johhny morris rods.
I agree with Dodgeguy, you get a heckuva bang for the buck with a Johnny Morris rod.
Other contenders in that same price range would include the "Bionic Blade" and "Team Daiwa".
Without knowing more about what you have in mind (casting, spinning, etc.) I can't elaborate any further.
Roger
they are nice but I am not a big fan of the power hump, it makes the rod feel a bit bulkier. Once you get used to it it is no problem though. Also look into the BPS extreme or the bionic blade. Both rods are very similar to the johnny morris signature.
Thanks for the replies. I have two Extreme rods 1 6'6" mh spinning and 1 6'6" med casting. I like them both. I'm am looking to get 2 more rods maybe 1 7' mh and 6'6" med casting.
Before I had a rod sponsor, I used the JM's. IMHO they are likely the best rods for the money anywhere. The only thing I would have liked to have seen different was the POwer Hump which I don't really care for. Also be careful with the weight balancing system. I fished for a long time with several ounces of brass weights and it took a toll on my elbow to the point that I had to stop using the system or risk serious pain and possibly damage to my arm.
I have one, a 7' MH, which I got on sale for $100. I use mine mostly for T-rigging, with PT reel and flouro line. It's a very sensitive setup. Maybe the best you can find, at this price range. These things go on sale on a regular basis. If you can wait until they do, you'll get one of the best "bang for the buck" deals out there. I'll buy more.
I got mine this spring and have been using it all this year, with the balancing kit intstalled. e77 raises a valid issue. I started out with enough weight in the end to achieve a neutral balance with the reel in the seet. I don't like this at all. The combo is too heavy with that much weight on board. And, I could not hit the broad side of a barn with it. It totally screwed my accuracy. Throughout the year I removed weights from the end, and now have just one small weight left. I'll probably take the whole thing off. Glad I saved the original butt piece.
RoLo brought up another good option. The new series team Daiwa Light & Tough rods are an excellent value. I got the 6'3" model, have used it for most of this season, and will be buying more of these. The model I got is supposed to be for topwaters. Well, in my opinion, the handle is way too long for topwater fishing. It's rather difficult to walk the dog with that much handle getting hung up in my vest. I use it, with a Daiwa Millionaire and flouro line, for senkos and ikas. Very light weight, accurate and sensitive.
Both of these rods have an enlarged handle. BPS calls it a Power Hump. Daiwa doesn't call it anything in particular. I've come to like that feature. It has little effect when palming the reel, but feels more secure, to me anyway, while casting. If you have small hands, you may not like this feature. I have three rods with this type of handle, and now the rest of my rods don't feel as secure while casting.
To answer your original question, yes, the JM rod is a good buy. You'd have to spend a lot more money to find something better.
Good luck,
GK
QuoteRoLo brought up another good option. The new series team Daiwa Light & Tough rods are an excellent value.
I was actually afraid to mention the Daiwa Light & Tough, because of my serious positive bias.
Their 6-footer is single-handedly responsible for turning about two dozen other rods into expensive dust-collectors :-?
Roger
Their 6-footer is single-handedly responsible for turning about two dozen other rods into expensive dust-collectors
You too, huh? My favorite local tackle shop, right down the road from the college, has a whole rack of "em marked $20 off. I drive right by it every day. I've been telling myself, self, the wife will kill you, the wife will kill you. ( She won't really, but... ) I'm getting weaker. Resistance is futile.
Cheers,
GK
I have about ten of them and they are superb rods but the med 6 footers are suposed to rated for up to a 1/2 oz but they hold up loading the rod up but no problem with any of the others. They are the most sensitive rod ive found for the money since the boron rods
"I agree with Dodgeguy, you get a heckuva bang for the buck with a Johnny Morris rod.
Other contenders in that same price range would include the "Bionic Blade" and "Team Daiwa".
Without knowing more about what you have in mind (casting, spinning, etc.) I can't elaborate any further.
Roger "
Really, anyone that compares the bionic blade to the Johnny morris deserves no credibility. you say they are in the same price range yet the johnny morris is twice as much money, and its way better graphite, way better guides, way better reel seat, etc.
Quote"I agree with Dodgeguy, you get a heckuva bang for the buck with a Johnny Morris rod.Other contenders in that same price range would include the "Bionic Blade" and "Team Daiwa".
Without knowing more about what you have in mind (casting, spinning, etc.) I can't elaborate any further.
Really, anyone that compares the bionic blade to the Johnny morris deserves no credibility. you say they are in the same price range yet the johnny morris is twice as much money, and its way better graphite, way better guides, way better reel seat, etc.
The bionic blade may not cost as much as the Johnny Morris, but in my opinion, it is definitely a contender of the Johnny Morris
as is the Team Daiwa Light & Tough, which IMO blows Johnny away. Without splitting hairs, all of these are LOW-END rods,
and when compared to a $300 G.Loomis, you begin to realize that $50 more or less is no guarantee of higher quality.
Roger
If you're going to spend 100-150 on a rod the shimano compre and crucial are better options than the BPS rods. They are just as good a rod and have a lifetime warranty.
i have to dissagree.i've fished my buddie's glx rods and they are no better than a johnny morris rod.in fact they are not as sensitive.he blew out the guides on his numerous times and had them replaced by loomis.johnny morris uses fuji titanium framed sic guides (the best guides made) which will not be hurt by braid.why a $300 dollar rod has guide issues with braid is beyond me.also i've used the light and tough rods.they are nice but i wouldn't put them above a johnny morris.i would rate them higher than a glx.another friend i know uses nothing but light and toughs with power pro and has no guide issue either.and the light and tough uses ordinary fuji aluminum oxide guides.if i was going to shell out a lot of $ on a high end rod i would consider a st.croix or a kistler.
Quotei've used the light and tough rods.they are nice but i wouldn't put them above a johnny morris.
As stated above, I agree that the Johnny Morris offers excellent quality components for the price,
but I rank the Team Daiwa L&D over the Johnny Morris on the basis of balance and "feel" (the bottom line).
Feel is really not something that can be argued, otherwise we'd all own the same rod.
In the next room I have a pair of 14-lb class Johnny Morris rods and a pair of 14-lb class Team Daiwa Light & Tough rods.
My Johnny Morris rods are 85-million modulus Graphite (6' 0 1 pce MH) and use Fuji SiC/Titanium Guides ($130 each)
The TeamDaiwa Light & Tough are IM-6 Graphite (6' 0" 1 pce MH) and use Fuji Aluminum Oxide Guides ($115 each)
I really liked my Johnny Morris rods "until" that is, I bought the team daiwa light&tough.
Compared to the team daiwa L&T, the Johnny Morris now feels like a TV antenna (very disappointing)
Roger
Quote"Really, anyone that compares the bionic blade to the Johnny morris deserves no credibility. you say they are in the same price range yet the johnny morris is twice as much money, and its way better graphite, way better guides, way better reel seat, etc.
Guys gotta mouth on him huh? 50 posts and already challenging rolo's knowledge hahahahahahah
I have a few BPS rods and they work well. I would recommend waiting until BPS has a sale. I don't think you get nearly the bang for your buck at full price. Don't rush they will be on sale and then you may end up with a couple of new rods for about the same money. ;D
"Guys gotta mouth on him huh? 50 posts and already challenging rolo's knowledge hahahahahahah"
just because someone posts a lot doesnt mean they have knowledge, in this case he clearly does not.
how do u figure someone has no knowlegde bc they compare a JM with a bionic blade? :-? u definitly need to chill out on insulting someone u dont know especially someone who has contributed so much helpful knowledge to the forum. So stop insulting people and talk fishing.
I have and use the top of the line Morris spin rods on sale at BPS the best value going you won't go wrong. I have th TI rods sold several years ago and the model that replaced it awesome rods. Go to BPS if you can and handle one with a reel on it a very sensitve rod. I also have the Bionic Blade the JM is a lot better not that the Blade is bad it's a good rod in it's price range.
Chow
Quote"just because someone posts a lot doesnt mean they have knowledge, in this case he clearly does not.
i dont think this cocky **** will last hear long, i loOOOVE KNOW IT ALLLS
i'm pretty sure the discussion is about fishing.
Whats next, telling someone the should check out a berkley frenzy instead of a lucky craft?
"Guys gotta mouth on him huh? 50 posts and already challenging rolo's knowledge hahahahahahah"
just because someone posts a lot doesnt mean they have knowledge, in this case he clearly does not.
Sure sounds like fishing to me?
Quote; "just because someone posts a lot doesnt mean they have knowledge, in this case he clearly does not."
I'll say this once; better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. Abraham Lincoln
I dont want to beat a dead horse, but i'm not sure who your calling the fool, because its certainly not me, its people that compare two product that are very far from each other in quality.
Bionic Blade
45 million modulus graphite
Fuji® Concept aluminum oxide guides (same as every cheap rod)
Standard reel Seat
Retail $79.99
Johnny Morris
85 million modulus graphite
Fuji® New Concept Titanium guides (the best there is)
graphite click locking reel seat ( the best there is)
Retail $149.99
ok so I dont really know why I have to justify this stuff to people but I guess I do. When someone says they are buying a new Mercedes would you tell them to check out the new Kia instead? Enough with this BS.
Its not your opinion that folks are mad at. You come to a site post like 20 times than start talking trash about a guy who probly has been fishing longer than youve been alive. Seem foolish to you? besides this is a site where everyone is very polite with there posts, even if they have a different opinion of the situation. So next time you post discrediting someones opinion and everyone rips you, you know why now. Even if you do know alot about fishing your manners are atrocious.
QuoteIts not your opinion that folks are mad at. You come to a site post like 20 times than start talking trash about a guy who probly has been fishing longer than youve been alive. Seem foolish to you? besides this is a site where everyone is very polite with there posts, even if they have a different opinion of the situation. So next time you post discrediting someones opinion and everyone rips you, you know why now. Even if you do know alot about fishing your manners are atrocious.
Agreed.
mktrout it is not what you said that is the issue, it is how you said it. You can disagree with anyone that you would like to and people will say nothing about it. But if you disagree and in the process are just plain rude people will say something.
Bass_Newbie