well i caved in and re spooled back up with mire fluro now that i have the adjustments right were i needed them another $12 down the drain. was goign good perfect until the last cast. back spin backlash birds nest what ever the he** this is is a complete mess. settings are were they need to be never taken my thumb of spool everything is the way i was told to keep it. i need help on taken apart the reel i hope to god i can or i will probably throw the d**n thing in the trash. im using 15# berkley trilene 100% fluro. i just dont get it so smooth then last cast i wanted to get a little further towards the wall of lil'ys and boom i dont know what happend other then weres my senko look down and i start blacking out. i cant get the line off by cuttign and pullign its so screwed up is there anotehr way to take the reel apart and just slide the line off?
Stand over a garbage can with some scissors and get to work. I certainly wouldn't take it apart unless the line got between the spool and the body.
I just keep cutting. Most revos have a little button on the side. Push it, rotate the side plate, and it will come off. Then the spool will slide out. Dont want to bad rap a company, but I cant stand that brand of fluro. Try some Vicious Elite. Its much easier to deal with. Get some line conditioner too. You will love fluro once you fish it a while. Good luck.
we took it apart very easy to do that and cut the string off managed to salvage about 50 yards. im goign to make a new thread im positive i know what shappening but dont know how to stop it.
I'm sorry, but blaming a line, any line for pilot error is not acceptable. Backlashes occur with any line. I have fewer with fluorocarbon than with any other line. The #1 cause of backlash is pilot error, that's all there is to it. It isn't the line's fault, not the reel's either.
If youfeel you're having more backlash problems with fluoro, fill the spool slightly less than you would with other lines. Use higher brake settings, and more tension until you get used to the way it behaves on your reels.
Operator error for sure........ How long have you been using BC equipment?
Going to have to agree with the two above me. If you cast anything like you type... YIKES
On 8/2/2012 at 2:13 AM, smr913 said:If you cast anything like you type... YIKES
if your new to baitcasting , there are several items you can do to cut down on the frustration of "backlashes", "birdsnests", or whatever one may call them.
I would start with a good mono line, some kvd line conditioner, and some black electricians tape. After filling your reel, pull out about a casts length of line, add a strip of black electricians tape, and rewind the line.
set spool tension knob first with no brakes on...lure should hit ground and spool should STOP, turn magnetic brakes on completely. Go fishing and and adjust brakes down as your casting performance and rates of backlashing improve.
Good luck.
oops, you can do the same with flouro line, but it is much cheaper to learn with a mono line such as big game. up to you.
On 8/1/2012 at 9:03 AM, irnwrkr said:I just keep cutting. Most revos have a little button on the side. Push it, rotate the side plate, and it will come off. Then the spool will slide out. Dont want to bad rap a company, but I cant stand that brand of fluro. Try some Vicious Elite. Its much easier to deal with. Get some line conditioner too. You will love fluro once you fish it a while. Good luck.
Revos dont have a button.... The have a thumb screw which needs backed out.. then you rotate the side plate and pull off..
Looked last night, and you are right. Was thinking of my quantum. As for the above, yes you backlash with all lines. But the 100% fluro tends to kink and bind due to it being stiffer than others.
On 8/1/2012 at 8:44 AM, bigt89 said:well i caved in and re spooled back up with mire fluro now that i have the adjustments right were i needed them another $12 down the drain. was goign good perfect until the last cast. back spin backlash birds nest what ever the he** this is is a complete mess. settings are were they need to be never taken my thumb of spool everything is the way i was told to keep it. i need help on taken apart the reel i hope to god i can or i will probably throw the d**n thing in the trash. im using 15# berkley trilene 100% fluro. i just dont get it so smooth then last cast i wanted to get a little further towards the wall of lil'ys and boom i dont know what happend other then weres my senko look down and i start blacking out. i cant get the line off by cuttign and pullign its so screwed up is there anotehr way to take the reel apart and just slide the line off?
That's what happened you threw all the fundamentals of BC out the window throwing a hail marry to get it a little farther to some lilly pads. Forcing a hard cast is almost a sure fire birds-nest just use your normal smooth casts one nice fluid motion you can still make far casts but you need to know your rod/reel and your own limits. I wouldn't blame the Revo as you said all was good till you tried for that extra long cast.
I don't think 100% is any stiffer, in fact it's one of the best. changing to another flouro will make 0 difference. At some point it's the Indian not the arrow.. Unless your trying to throw a bait that's just too light for the rod, spool it up with cheap mono and keep practicing.
Sounds like a bad Revo, send it to me, and maybe I can put it to good use.
On 8/2/2012 at 7:13 PM, clayton86 said:That's what happened you threw all the fundamentals of BC out the window throwing a hail marry to get it a little farther to some lilly pads. Forcing a hard cast is almost a sure fire birds-nest just use your normal smooth casts one nice fluid motion you can still make far casts but you need to know your rod/reel and your own limits. I wouldn't blame the Revo as you said all was good till you tried for that extra long cast.
i honostly did not thing it would matter but apperently it does when i throw a little harder with my pole with power pro its not different
as for the mono its not much cheaper then fluro. fluro is 10 cents mono is 8 cents a yard. hopefully ill get out tonight to see if i an master it with the new advice. could not get out last night with all the rain.
You won't be mastering it tonight..... It take a good bit of practice to become proficiant with baitcast gear. Give yourself some time and stop switching line, as the line is not the issue.
On 8/3/2012 at 12:58 AM, bigt89 said:as for the mono its not much cheaper then fluro. fluro is 10 cents mono is 8 cents a yard. hopefully ill get out tonight to see if i an master it with the new advice. could not get out last night with all the rain.
From Tackle Warehouse...
Big Game mono 15 # 8.49 for 900 yards....less than 1 penny per yard
Trilene 100 % flouro 15# 19.99 for 200 yards....10 cents per yard.
that makes flouro 10 times more expensive than mono....in this example. however, it is your money. Just trying to give you some options that may help. Good luck.
On 8/3/2012 at 12:58 AM, bigt89 said:as for the mono its not much cheaper then fluro. fluro is 10 cents mono is 8 cents a yard. hopefully ill get out tonight to see if i an master it with the new advice. could not get out last night with all the rain.
Well I see your not spooling your own reels, because you're going by yard, but HOLY FREAKING HALIBUT DUDE!!! You are SERIOUSLY overpaying for mono! for 330 yds (standard mono spool ) it normally costs about 7$. For that same amount of line, you're paying just over 26$!!!
Just buy your own line and spool it yourself, its SO much cheaper, and rediculously easy
On 8/3/2012 at 5:51 AM, BASSclary said:Well I see your not spooling your own reels, because you're going by yard, but HOLY FREAKING HALIBUT DUDE!!! You are SERIOUSLY overpaying for mono! for 330 yds (standard mono spool ) it normally costs about 7$. For that same amount of line, you're paying just over 26$!!!
Just buy your own line and spool it yourself, its SO much cheaper, and rediculously easy
i dont have a spooling machine thats why i just take it down to the local store. 120 yards of fluro was only costing me $12.
i would do it my sefl if i got ahold of a spooling machine or something that woudl make it easier. last tiem o spooled mono on my own it was very lose hard doing 5 things at once. holdign the rod cranking the reel, holding the line, keepign pressure on the line, and guiding it. i lose patience fast. but yea i see what you mean doign your own is cheaper. i woudl just buy a big 1500-3000 yard line i have the storage just dont have the equipment. i coudl be wrong but i think spoolign machines are close to a grand if i were to buy one.
i actually have 2 spools one big game 20# test 500 yards i believe and ande green line both mono in 350 or something like that thats in 15#.
On 8/3/2012 at 5:48 AM, shootermcbob said:From Tackle Warehouse...
Big Game mono 15 # 8.49 for 900 yards....less than 1 penny per yard
Trilene 100 % flouro 15# 19.99 for 200 yards....10 cents per yard.
that makes flouro 10 times more expensive than mono....in this example. however, it is your money. Just trying to give you some options that may help. Good luck.
On 8/3/2012 at 6:04 AM, bigt89 said:i dont have a spooling machine thats why i just take it down to the local store. 120 yards of fluro was only costing me $12.
i would do it my sefl if i got ahold of a spooling machine or something that woudl make it easier. last tiem o spooled mono on my own it was very lose hard doing 5 things at once. holdign the rod cranking the reel, holding the line, keepign pressure on the line, and guiding it. i lose patience fast. but yea i see what you mean doign your own is cheaper. i woudl just buy a big 1500-3000 yard line i have the storage just dont have the equipment. i coudl be wrong but i think spoolign machines are close to a grand if i were to buy one.
You dont need a spooling machine...
Just put the spool on a pencil and put your feet on it. Then reel. Adjust the pressure with your feet.
On 8/3/2012 at 6:30 AM, BASSclary said:You dont need a spooling machine...
Just put the spool on a pencil and put your feet on it. Then reel. Adjust the pressure with your feet.
word, thats how you do it! spooling machines,we didnt have those fancy thing-a-ma-jigs back in my day
On 8/3/2012 at 6:04 AM, bigt89 said:i dont have a spooling machine thats why i just take it down to the local store. 120 yards of fluro was only costing me $12.
i would do it my sefl if i got ahold of a spooling machine or something that woudl make it easier. last tiem o spooled mono on my own it was very lose hard doing 5 things at once. holdign the rod cranking the reel, holding the line, keepign pressure on the line, and guiding it. i lose patience fast. but yea i see what you mean doign your own is cheaper. i woudl just buy a big 1500-3000 yard line i have the storage just dont have the equipment. i coudl be wrong but i think spoolign machines are close to a grand if i were to buy one.
Make sure you put the line through the line guide if you are not.
On 8/2/2012 at 2:52 AM, shootermcbob said:if your new to baitcasting , there are several items you can do to cut down on the frustration of "backlashes", "birdsnests", or whatever one may call them.
I would start with a good mono line, some kvd line conditioner, and some black electricians tape. After filling your reel, pull out about a casts length of line, add a strip of black electricians tape, and rewind the line.
set spool tension knob first with no brakes on...lure should hit ground and spool should STOP, turn magnetic brakes on completely. Go fishing and and adjust brakes down as your casting performance and rates of backlashing improve.
Good luck.
oops, you can do the same with flouro line, but it is much cheaper to learn with a mono line such as big game. up to you.
X2, especially the part about the electrical tape. You can use Scotch tape, too.
HaHa, spooling machine that's funny. I didn't even know there was such a thing. Surely you can be semi creative and come up with some sort of way to hold the line and still get it in the spool relatively easy. If not, I would be willing to bet there are some youtube videos out there that would help you get going in the right direction.
I thought spooling machines were what the factories used to fill 50 spools at a time, If you think you need a machine to put line on a reel properly, your making fishing WAY TO DIFFICULT!! I would bet me and my pencil, wooden doll, rifle cleaning rod, or what ever, can probably do it better than the store can!! Fact!! It's fishing, make it simple!! And remember how well you were casting before the big heave, snap casting or whipping the rod to gain extra distance is probably the biggest mistake new to baitcasting, casters do.
The best line I can think of for a beginner is TRILENE BIG GAME, in my opinion it is ideal to learn on. It is very economical, I just bought a 1/4 lbs. spool at bass pro, like others have said 1/4 Lbs. spool is less than $9.00, less than 1 cent a yard, and that will fill your reel 7 times, maybe 8, so it cost less than $1.25 to fill your reel. In all honesty by then you should have your reel down. the good thing about Big Game is, there are plenty of lines that cast better and many that cast worse, so it is a little stiffer and kinda like a premium Fluoro, and as far as that goes still good enough to fish every day if your going to run Mono. The one thing I think it does as good as any other line, and better than most limper premium mono is, it has excellent abrasion resistance!! Hard to beat for abrasion resistance, and my favorite mono to use for leaders off of braid!
On 8/3/2012 at 6:04 AM, bigt89 said:i dont have a spooling machine thats why i just take it down to the local store. 120 yards of fluro was only costing me $12.
i would do it my sefl if i got ahold of a spooling machine or something that woudl make it easier. last tiem o spooled mono on my own it was very lose hard doing 5 things at once. holdign the rod cranking the reel, holding the line, keepign pressure on the line, and guiding it. i lose patience fast. but yea i see what you mean doign your own is cheaper. i woudl just buy a big 1500-3000 yard line i have the storage just dont have the equipment. i coudl be wrong but i think spoolign machines are close to a grand if i were to buy one.
For gods sake man, put down the caffene and slow down.
You don't have to have a spoiling machine to put on line. You get a friend, a ball point pen and spool the thing. That's why we have a thumb and finger. People have been putting on line for years without a spooling machine