I have been wanting to try some, I have only fished braid in the past.
Got a spool of Spiderwire EZ fluoro and filled a spool as usual.
Left my reel setup as usual, made a cast and got a nasty backlash, I was unable to get it out.
Upon some inspection I noticed that this line looks to be fraying all over, I could rub my finger nail on it and see it fray more.
I had treated it with L&L as everyone suggests.
There has to be a better line out there, I hardly ever backlash with braid.
I pretty much only use Sniper, Shooter, and Tatsu. I think the Spiderwire fluoro is complete rubbish, but that's not necessarily the problem in this situation. Fluorocarbon is much more dense than braid. A full spool adds at minimum a couple grams, depending on the lines. You'll have to add some braking, or use more thumb control, when casting fluoro, compared to your braided line.
Seaguar red label and invisix
InvizX
Are you fishing around a lot of rock or brushpiles? Typically when I see a lot of fraying in a braided line, its due to abrasion - that is to say the line is rubbing against something hard/sharp. If that's the case, moving to fluorocarbon line would be smart. If you're going to replace the whole line, I would recommend Tatsu by Seaguar. If you think the line could be salvaged, tying on a fluorocarbon leader may help reduce fraying of the braid. For just a leader, you can usually get away with cheaper fluorocarbon and I've had good luck with trilene 100% fluorocarbon.
As far as quality for the price, Seaguar red label. As far as quality, sunline shooter.
I personally stay away from fire-line/spiderwire based on reviews, but I have only tried sufix and berkley trilene 100% fluoro professional grade. Both were good but I liked the trilene better.
Seaguar Abrazx, and Red Label.
Hootie
Inviz X is my favorite.
A lot depends on how you are using the line. For short leader material nearly any
fluorocarbon will do. I like Red Label just fine for this, but for longer leaders I prefer
either InvizX or AbrazX.
As a mainline my favorite is Tatsu for both spinning and baitcasting gear.
Sniper for mainline FC. AbrasX for whenever I want to use a FC leader.
On 1/22/2015 at 12:43 PM, Tywithay said:I pretty much only use Sniper, Shooter, and Tatsu. I think the Spiderwire fluoro is complete rubbish, but that's not necessarily the problem in this situation. Fluorocarbon is much more dense than braid. A full spool adds at minimum a couple grams, depending on the lines. You'll have to add some braking, or use more thumb control, when casting fluoro, compared to your braided line.
Ty
If I may, what application to do you use Sniper, Shooter and Tatsu for?
Mike
On 1/22/2015 at 10:55 PM, Mike L said:Ty
If I may, what application to do you use Sniper, Shooter and Tatsu for?
Mike
I use 8# Tatsu for my spinning reels. Tatsu and Sniper are my all-around lines, use it for weightless plastics, open water type stuff. I usually only get Tatsu when it's on sale. I can buy Sniper locally, so I buy it as needed when there's no time to ship, not too often, but I like it as a lower cost alternative for the same techniques, with only a small loss in performance. I use Shooter for my bottom contact and anywhere that I need extra abrasion resistance. I have yet to find a tougher line, plus is has very little stretch compared to other fluorocarbons, increasing sensitivity.
Thanks Pal!
Mike
BPS XPS 100% Flurocarbon. It is the first fluorocarbon I started using years ago first for leaders, now for bait casters. Although I hear great things about Sniper and other lines, feel no reason to change something thats not broken.
On 1/22/2015 at 9:07 PM, *Hootie said:Seaguar Abrazx, and Red Label.
Hootie
On 1/22/2015 at 12:44 PM, illinifan4152 said:Seaguar red label and invisix
I'm going to try all of these along with Berkley 100% and 100% XL and see which I like best. I have heard good things about all. I will let you all know what I think.
What Fluorocarbon Do You Guys Like?
None.
A-Jay
Abrazx. Next I will be buying some Tatsu.
Sunline
I really like Trilene 100% Flouro. I have had zero issues with it. I also like the XL version for spinning reels.
Currently use InvizX.
Looking to try out something different for my jerkbait setup.. thinking either red label, AbrazX or Sunline Reaction.
Personally I use Sunline Sniper in sizes 7lb-20lb. Love the stuff. Not sure what your fraying issue could be really, almost sounded like a bad guide or something rubbing if it was far down in the spool.
I quit using flouro when I discovered Yo-Zuri. But, then again, I never tried any 'high-end' flouro, either. Any reason or applications for which I should try flouro vice Yo-Zuri?
Dedicated jig rig maybe.
That was a reel set up issue to begin with, next was a poor quality FC, you are correct, there are many better choices avail. Next time though you need to insure reel set up, there is a learning curve, albeit slight over mono, hybrids..
I have never used mono on a bait casting reel!
I think I might just use fluoro as a leader.
What knot?
Can I use 15lb fluoro and 65lb braid?
That line is not something I will buy again, I can make it fray with a finger nail, two or three passes and it breaks
On 1/23/2015 at 5:23 AM, jderry said:I have never used mono on a bait casting reel!
I think I might just use fluoro as a leader.
What knot?
Can I use 15lb fluoro and 65lb braid?
That line is not something I will buy again, I can make it fray with a finger nail, two or three passes and it breaks
I also should have specified I use FC only for leaders, all of my set ups are braid with fluoro leaders except for my jig stick no leader (maybe in ultra clear water).
A lot of people use uni-uni as did I, but I found Alberto's (improved albright) to work much better and is the same difficulty to tie.
For the applications I would use 65lb braid I would not be using a leader, so what this is telling me is you likely are using an unnecessarily heavy braid for the application.
The big discrepancy in line diameters can* make leaders finicky and like I mentioned before, if I was aiming to use a 15lb FC leader I would pair it with 20lb, 30lb (recommend), and MAYBE 50lb if absolutely necessary.
Now for the improved albright I typically use 7 wraps up, 7 wraps down but more wraps (about 9) if the leader is close to the braid in strength (eg. 20lb braid with 15lb or 20lb FC)
If you have any questions let me know.
My favorite fluorocarbon is NONE. Never had a problem with it jumping off the spool, suppleness, knot failures or any of the other problems most fluorocarbon lines have. I wouldn't recommend it because there is so much peer pressure on using one or another of its competitors. For me, it's strictly a confidence thing.
On 1/23/2015 at 1:39 AM, Choporoz said:I quit using flouro when I discovered Yo-Zuri. But, then again, I never tried any 'high-end' flouro, either. Any reason or applications for which I should try flouro vice Yo-Zuri?
IMHO, when sensitivity is key.
Mike
Have used Silver Thread for many many years and still do....I like it'
Use ro be InvisX.... then I tried Tatsu.
I use Red Label, AbrazX and InvisX. Stay away from the really cheap stuff imo when you go fluoro is what I learned. Bulk of my flouro use though is making it a leader. Only have two reels spooled with full flouro, 14lb AbrazX (Chronarch CI4+) 10lb InvisX (Chronarch 200E6).
XPS fluoro - the white box version.
I have about 3 spools, but really only use
pure FC every so often. Most of my use
(via leader) is going to be Yo-Zuri Hybrid
or less often now, P-Line Floroclear.
If I was more serious about FC, I'd probably
try some highly-recommended Tatsu, Sniper,
etc.
On 1/24/2015 at 1:49 AM, DarrenM said:XPS fluoro - the white box version.
I have about 3 spools, but really only use
pure FC every so often. Most of my use
(via leader) is going to be Yo-Zuri Hybrid
or less often now, P-Line Floroclear.
If I was more serious about FC, I'd probably
try some highly-recommended Tatsu, Sniper,
etc.
I have Floroclear fully spooled on one reel. I really like it and it handled toothy critters pretty well too.
Don't really see any love for P-Line, I like it a lot. I have found it to be very supple and manageable.
Dropshot. This is the one area I believe it really matters. I use 6 lb sniper or p-line 100%. I have not tried the tautsu due to the additional cost. Found two lines that worked very well and stopped looking. I love and use a lot of yo-zuri in 10lbOn 1/23/2015 at 1:39 AM, Choporoz said:I quit using flouro when I discovered Yo-Zuri. But, then again, I never tried any 'high-end' flouro, either. Any reason or applications for which I should try flouro vice Yo-Zuri?
I really like Sunline Super FC and Seagaur RedLabel.
Inviz-x and Abraz-x are two of my favorites. I also like the BPS fluorocarbon.
I only use fluorocarbon for leader material. For me, Red Label works perfect for this. It blends reliable performance, quality line, and economical price into a top "bang for the buck" factor.
Seaguar Invisx and Trilene 100% FC are my favorites. Red Label is also not bad for the money. I just bought some Tatsu but I have not used it yet. We'll see if it beats out my other go to lines.
Honestly, none. I use fluorocarbon on my dedication senko stick. I went all out and spooled up with Tatsu. I was using Sniper but figured what the heck.
I just got some 30lb power pro and 15lb red label for leaders
Hope this works.
I've used Abrazx in the past and liked it, but I think my woes with it came from the fact that I used too light of line. I had a couple of breakoffs.
That said I went to strictly braid.
Now I've decided to give it another try since I'm getting more into cranking.
I got a spool of Super FC Sniper at a store going out of business here in Indy.....$10