What copolymer line do you guys use? I've used PowerPro braid and Trilene mono my whole life. Never got into FC as I don't want to deal with the memory and knot issues.
Yo Zuri Hybrid is very popular on here and for good reason.
Mike
Yo Zuri in 6, 8, 10, 12lb
Yo Zuri in 6 10 12 15 and 20. 5oz baits on 20.
Silver Thread AN40 6# and 8# especially on BFS and spinning reels
Yo Zuri in 4# and 6# on spinning gear, and Yo Zuri in 10# and 12# on casting gear.
Pline cxx
Yo-Zuri isn't a copolymer line it's a hybrid FC jacketed over copolymer core co-extruded line and the largest diameter per rated lb test on market.
Copolymer is a blend of 2 polymers like 2 different types of Nylon, Nylon and polyester or polyuerathane for example. Why this industry separates Nylon monofilament from fluorocarbon monofilament ( single filament ) is for marketing fluorocarnpbon line at higher price point. Copolymer is technically monofilament with exception of hybrids like Yo-Zuri co-extruded line.
The copolymer line I use is Maxima Ultra Green in 5 lb test. The high end Nylon mono line is Sunline Defier Armillo Nylon in 11 and 25 lb test.
Tom
I have a lot of confidence in McCoy clear and Mean Green. Very limp and easy to cast, with great abrasion resistance.
On 4/13/2019 at 11:12 AM, WRB said:Yo-Zuri isn't a copolymer line it's a hybrid FC jacketed over copolymer core co-extruded line and the largest diameter per rated lb test on market.
Copolymer is a blend of 2 polymers like 2 different types of Nylon, Nylon and polyester or polyuerathane for example. Why this industry separates Nylon monofilament from fluorocarbon monofilament ( single filament ) is for marketing fluorocarnpbon line at higher price point. Copolymer is technically monofilament with exception of hybrids like Yo-Zuri co-extruded line.
The copolymer line I use is Maxima Ultra Green in 5 lb test. The high end Nylon mono line is Sunline Defier Armillo Nylon in 11 and 25 lb test.
Tom
In any case it says something that a lot of people consider it a universal copolymer line and is very popular.
Huge fan of P-line CX Premium.
Sufix Advance in 14lb.
McCoy Xtra Clear, McCoy Mean Green, Sunline Shooter Defier & Yo-Zuri Hybrid if it qualifies.
Although it gets bashed alot for some reason , I've had great luck with P line fluoroclear
Yo-Zuri Hybrid and P-Line Fluoroclear...
p line cx or silver thread AN40.
On 4/13/2019 at 11:12 AM, WRB said:Yo-Zuri isn't a copolymer line it's a hybrid FC jacketed over copolymer core co-extruded line and the largest diameter per rated lb test on market.
Copolymer is a blend of 2 polymers like 2 different types of Nylon, Nylon and polyester or polyuerathane for example. Why this industry separates Nylon monofilament from fluorocarbon monofilament ( single filament ) is for marketing fluorocarnpbon line at higher price point. Copolymer is technically monofilament with exception of hybrids like Yo-Zuri co-extruded line.
The copolymer line I use is Maxima Ultra Green in 5 lb test. The high end Nylon mono line is Sunline Defier Armillo Nylon in 11 and 25 lb test.
Tom
I had never heard of copolymer until I joined this site. Aren't most monofilaments out now really a copolymer? Except maybe stren original? Tackle warehouse classifies trilene as a copolymer even though we all think of it as a mono. Seems to me that most on this site use copolymer to refer to the hybrid or fluoro coated nylon lines.
On 4/13/2019 at 9:01 AM, KentuckyBlueBass said:What copolymer line do you guys use? I've used PowerPro braid and Trilene mono my whole life. Never got into FC as I don't want to deal with the memory and knot issues.
I use Izorline XXX Super Co-Polymer Clear. Love the stuff. Great knot strength. Very little if any memory. I use it anywhere from 8lb for finesse to 20 for jigs and such. Excellent price as well.
I think most monos on the market are nylon. There are different types of nylon.
I think most of us consider that a copolymer line is a single filament line that is a mix of nylon and FC. And has characteristics of both but not exactly the same as either. Sort of a compromise that is easier handling, higher density than nylon, and possibly less visible than nylon.
Nylon is a plastic, a thermoplastic (meaning it can be melted in contrast to thermosets which don't melt) and it is a type of polymer. Polymer is a chemical compound with long repeating chains blah blah blah. . . There are many different kinds of plastics. When you mix different kinds of thermoplastics you have a copolymer. Like what we consider a copolymer line.
But as Tom says, ANY plastic that consists of a mix of plastics is a COPOLYMER. It could be nylon, FC, polypropylene, polyethylene, or any other thermoplastic.
McCoy xtra clear
Another for Yozuri hybrid
Yozuri hybrid
pline cx,cxx, and floroclear
On 4/14/2019 at 1:34 AM, MickD said:I think most monos on the market are nylon. There are different types of nylon.
I think most of us consider that a copolymer line is a single filament line that is a mix of nylon and FC. And has characteristics of both but not exactly the same as either. Sort of a compromise that is easier handling, higher density than nylon, and possibly less visible than nylon.
Nylon is a plastic, a thermoplastic (meaning it can be melted in contrast to thermosets which don't melt) and it is a type of polymer. Polymer is a chemical compound with long repeating chains blah blah blah. . . There are many different kinds of plastics. When you mix different kinds of thermoplastics you have a copolymer. Like what we consider a copolymer line.
But as Tom says, ANY plastic that consists of a mix of plastics is a COPOLYMER. It could be nylon, FC, polypropylene, polyethylene, or any other thermoplastic.
Thinking about this more and the terms copolymer and monofilament are not mutually exclusive. Really most copolymer are a single filament as you said, meaning they are monos. But not all monos are copoly
Pline CXX
Yo-Zuri Hybrid, P-Line CXX and Izorline
I just started using KastKing copolymer line.
Sufix Advance
I have used Fluoroclear and Yo Zuri Hybrid myself. I did not like Fluoroclear, it handled poorly and had some line management issues that ends up looking like severe line twist, but this was on a casting rod. Switched to Yo Zuri Hybrid and never had that problem again.
As for fluorocarbon, I have no issues with knot strength. Yesterday I went to pull out a jerkbait that got wedged between two rocks and had to put my full body weight into it to try to break the knot just to get my line back and when I got it back, it looked like it didn't even break at the knot. This was on Berkley Trilene Fluorocarbon 15lb using a uni knot with 5 turns, if you want to give it a try.
Just tried Hi seas grand slam again. I had got some bout a month ago an hated it, but decided to give it another shot an pay close attention to taking my time with an wetting my line ( even though I thought I did 1st time) anyways I've had much better luck with this spool.
Another +1 for CXX. The stuff is stupid strong. You could easily go a size down, check out the diameter charts. It does have a decent amount of memory, though.
For my non-braid setups I use to be a dedicated Trilene XT guy but, the past couple of years I’ve been using P-Line Flouroclear and I’m a convert now.
Yo Zuri Hybrid. Gave it a try after all the recommendations for it and now that's all that I use.I still haven't added L&L to the spool, even without it, there are no issues casting or with line memory. PLine Floroclear is what I was using before but had a bunch of issues with the line breaking.
The only one I've ever tried is Yo-zuri Hybrid 6lb on a spinning setup. I'm impressed and plan to try some on my BC setups soon.
None. Berkley big game on my casting reels. Cheap strong and effective. I change it often
Yo Zuri Hybrid.
Still using up my 1- and 3-pound spools I got from Outlet Bait and Tackle when they were blowing them out around 2012. ???? I use the 10 and especially 12 the most with casting gear for moving baits, with 6 goes on spinning rigs occasionally (I prefer braid). The 4 is unbeatable for ice fishing walleyes, if anyone is interested.
Another vote for Yozuri Hybrid. 8 lb on my spinning reels and 12 lb on my baitcasters.
Cxx. McCoy mean green is ok just not as good in my book.
12 lb yo zuri copolymer on most of my casting reels... love it.
Yo-Zuri Hybrid 6# on spinning gear chasing river smallmouth. Much prefer it over any mono, fluoro or braid that I've tried.
I must have bought a bad spool of Yo Zuri Hybrid a few years back. I really didn't like it, but to each their own.
I've been using Silver Thread Copoly since the early 90s. I really like the abrasion resistance when I'm fishing rocks for smallmouth, and it doesn't have the memory that some other lines have.
Yo Zuri Hybrid. It may not be 'according to Hoyle' co-poly, but what is significant, is that it is great stuff....up to 12#....and amazing stuff with KVD line spray.
On 4/14/2019 at 9:30 PM, dodgeguy said:Sufix Advance
That's next on my list of lines to try.
Right now I am using Sufix Promix 6# for trout and it is excellent. I got snagged a couple of times and I find this stuff way harder to snap then my 8# Stren and Kastking Flourokote lines.