I do a lot of fishing with plastics and getting bigger into jigs. A MH rod has always done fine for me. I typically fish my spinnerbaits and smaller plastics on medium rods. I throw a ML spinning rod in there too. Anyway, a MH has done fine for me so far. I dont throw anything bigger than a 1/2oz jig but may do a little of that. Sometimes I feel like the 1/2oz jig is a little heavy but it has been ok so far and the rod says it can handle well over that. Would you suggest a Heavy action rod for 1/2 oz jigs? What else do you use a heavy action for? I think I am mostly asking to feed my rod addiciton.
Depends what you mean heavy. My Croix mh's are practically heavy's compared to others.
Heavy is a power, not an action. I use H's for c-rigs, heavier jigs, pitching/flipping/punching heavy cover, frogs in heavy cover, larger hollow belly swimbaits, etc. Don't get too hung up on power labels though, most brands fish differently and the rods action comes in to play also.
Frogs, flipping vegetation, jigs from 3/4oz and up, small swimbaits.
I don't use any heavy power rods either. But if I did, I would use them for some of the same things Jrob78 and Bluebasser mentioned, especially frogs, punching, and swimbaits; that is, heavy lures and/or heavy cover. I don't throw anything over about 3/4oz, and my MH rods have been good enough for the cover I usually deal with. I'll look into a heavy rod probably eventually, but I haven't felt the need for one yet where I fish most often.
As most have said, non-finesse jigs and frogs generally. The heavier cover, and the heavier the bait, the heavier the rod.
EDIT: I also use a heavy rod for my big spinnerbaits and 8/10XDs.
I fish Croix legend series and i never felt underpowered until I started punching. 3/4 and over weights with plastic and 5/0 flipping hooks require a heavy rod. I just stopped trying to punch and stick with my my rods. If I move south I will have to bite the heavy bullet.
It all varies from each company. Since there is no set standard things can get a bit tricky when it comes to a rods power. I have a Falcon Bucoo that is labeled as a heavy but they're known to overrate their rods. It fishes like a medium heavy and with the mod/fast action it makes a great squarebill rod. Dobyns is another one that leans on the overrated side of things. Then you have rods like the Veritas and the Tatula which fish heavier then their rated powers. Now for the couple heavy powered rods that I have that are true to their heavy power ratings I use them for the same things mentioned above.
C rigs
1/2oz jigs with trailer
Frogs in pads or thick grass
Pitching into cover
Big worms with 3/8+ weight
Frogs.
As stated heavy is a power. Simply the lure weight the rod can handle. Some heavy rods are good for cranking deep and some are good for frogging.
I have 2 heavy. 1 is a frog rod rated to 1.5 ounce lures. It has extra fast tip which helps punch frog hooks into roof of mouth. I also use it for jigs.
The other is rated to 2 ounces and is a fast action. I use it for punching and throwing small swimbaits.
I use a heavy power rod for a few applications. Frogging in pads or grass, flippin in heavy cover, punching, big crankbaits (10xd), and hollow bodied swim baits around thick grass, and A-rig. You might be able to get away with a MH with some of these applications if they aren't around heavy cover, but there are just some you have to step it up to be efficient.
The Rig
On 11/30/2015 at 2:09 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Frogs, flipping vegetation, jigs from 3/4oz and up, small swimbaits.
This
On 12/1/2015 at 12:26 AM, roadwarrior said:The Rig
And this (refering to the A-rig I assume).
What does heavy mean? A heavy or 5 power 6'10" jig/worm rod is standard use for me, in fact I also use a 6 power 6"10" heavy jig/ worm rod, a heavy and X heavy swimbait rod, can't compare a heavy 7' jig rod to a heavy 8' swimbait rod,very different heavy.
Tom
Frogs and 1/2 oz+ swim jigs.
You see the common thread that "heavy" is a subjective term. Choose rods that load appropriately to cast well (lure weight rating) and with enough backbone to land fish in the cover you'll fish. A little trial and error is inevitable but part of the fun. Posting inquiries on specific rods here will likely get multiple replies.
I like to throw my 1/2 oz jigs on a Heavy rod. You could just as easily throw them on a MH rod, but it just comes down to preference. I also use Heavy rods for frogging, flipping/pitching, and some heavier swimbaits and umbrella rigs.
All my Gloomis rods are "hvy" except my jerk bait rod it's a "med hvy"
I use to use H rods for jigs and plastics. I have changed over to MH now. About the only thing I use the heavys for is punching through matted vegetation, or fishing in sunken timber.
Frogging
Flipping & Punching Super Heavy Cover
Magnum Cranking
A-Jay
Heavy is relative. So far the only reason. I use my heavy is for the Alabama Rig.
Carolina Rig, jigs, frogging, use with 50# braid.
I use a 7'3" HF for frogging, fishing in thick lily pads/weed cover, and for heavier jigs.
Tight lines,
Bob
Edit to add: I forgot to mention I just picked up a Kistler KLX 7'3" HMF "Frog, Jig, Creature, Worm" rated for lures 3/8 to 1-1/4 oz. The moderate-fast action should make it an excellent big crank rod as well...
On 12/1/2015 at 8:39 PM, A-Jay said:Frogging
Flipping & Punching Super Heavy Cover
Magnum Cranking
A-Jay
Yelp!
Out of the 40 or so rods in my rod locker, I'd say 30 are either heavy or XH. I throw most everything on them except dropshots, shaky heads, small crankbaits, and poppers.
Try before you buy... They aren't all created equal. If you see a medium Magnum rod it's heavier than a typical medium heavy.
Tuna, sharks and mat-punching for largemouth bass
Roger
I was looking at the 7'1" heavy *** ***
Appaerntly i cant name the rod i was looking at. THat is ok though. thanks all
On 12/2/2015 at 3:05 AM, Bass_Fanatic said:Out of the 40 or so rods in my rod locker, I'd say 30 are either heavy or XH. I throw most everything on them except dropshots, shaky heads, small crankbaits, and poppers.
Glad you posted this. I was going to say that the OP doesn't need to justify wanting a Heavy rod. If the rod will load enough to make a decent cast with the desired lure, then use the rod. Obviously we aren't talking about throwing treble hook lures an a H-XF rod. I really enjoy using my 6' 10" HF for throwing a 1/2 oz. jig plus trailer. Sure this weight falls well within the range of a MH rod, but I like the 6' 10" rod and it casts this lure extremely well. Why should I limit myself to only using it in heavy cover or for casting 3/4 oz. or heavier lures?
My heavy power rods are built on MHX "Mag Bass" freshwater series blanks. I use the MB874 (7'3") for flipping, pitching, and punching jigs + t-rigged plastics from 1/4oz. up to 1oz. My second one is an MB844 (7') for frogs, swimjigs, chatterbaits, and pitching jigs/plastics from 1/4-3/4oz. in tighter spots than I would want to use the 7'3" rod. Both are very versatile rods, and have replaced multiple other rods in my boat. I find the 7'3" rod is the "sweet spot" for me in a flipping/pitching/punching rod...long enough to flip/punch, short enough to pitch to targets with precision, and doesn't wear me out like all the 7'6"+ factory rods I have used in the past.....of course to be transparent, I have NOT used a longer, custom built to my specs. rod............yet. YMMV.