I might start a war here but im trying to pick a good flurocarbon and im not sure which is better. I know they are both really good companies but I have only ever used sunline. I would be using about 14-16 pound test and mostly fishing jigs with it.
Seaguar tatsu is my choice.
On 10/22/2015 at 2:27 AM, 1099gl said:I might start a war here but im trying to pick a good flurocarbon and im not sure which is better. I know they are both really good companies but I have only ever used sunline. I would be using about 14-16 pound test and mostly fishing jigs with it.
Sunline Sniper is my choice personally. I will say I have not used Tatsu, but I am too cheap for it haha. I use too much line to go into that level. Honestly I can't tell you the last time I broke a fish off on 16lb sniper, which is another reason I haven't even thought about switching.
Blackwater Toray Super Hard Premium High Grade, the new generation, is a excellent 100% FC line.
Tatsu is great, $$$ pricey!
Sunline Shooter and Sniper are both good line, not in the same class as Tatsu or Toray, a lot less expensive.
Tom
i was a total seaguar guy until i my last spool of 10# abrazx. it was clearly a defective spool as i was breaking off constantly. i had previously emailed them with general product questions a few times before and they had always responded quickly. but, when i emailed them about replacing my defective spool, suddenly i didn't hear from them anymore...twice. so, i made the jump to sunline only to discover i liked their FC lines even more. haven't looked back since.
I currently use 14lb Abrazx, 8lb Invizx, 12lb Sniper and 10lb Reaction. I love them all. I really
As far as braid goes, I've used Smackdown and I don't like it, FX2 is better IMO. I'd really like to try some Kanzen, but it's just another thing on my list.
Recently got a spool of sunline and it's great! Use invisx too but next time I buy it will be sunline
I use abrazX for everything unless its finesse. For finesse I switch over to sun line sniper.
If you are going with the lowest end line from each brand I think Red Label is a little better than Sunline's offering in that price range. Above that, I think they are pretty equal per price point.
The only Seaguar I've used is Invisex, then switched to Sniper.
I won't be going back.
Mike
I use Tatsu on my spinning setup, Invizx on my moving baits, casting setups, and braid on my flipping setup. Never used Sunline.
Apples to oranges.
Seaguar has less options and their line has stretch. Its typically more manageable and tatsu is top of the line.
Sunline has far more diversity. Typically less manageable due to lack of stretch. Shooter is top of the line and has very little stretch.
I prefer sunline
A few years ago I tried a few Seaguar fc offerings, and then tried #16 sniper. I never bought any other fc after that. Great line for the money.
I switched from Seaguar abrazx and invizx to various sunline lines and I prefer sunline.
I've been using Seaguar Tatsu 15lb for a few years now, and have had no complaints whatsoever. It's not wiry or unmanageable, has excellent knot strength, and great abrasion resistance. I've never had a reason to switch.
Tatsu is IMO the best flourocarbon on the market right now given all of its qualities. It would be the line to use if money isn't an issue. Sunline Shooter is one of the most sensitive flourocarbon but has more memory and doesn't have the best handling but the trade off is less stretch and more feel. Sniper I what I call a good compromise line with out the big price tag. I would call it a poor mans Tatsu.
I almost exclusively fish all flourocarbon and my reels see Tatsu and Sniper almost exclusively.
On 10/22/2015 at 8:14 AM, kickerfish1 said:Tatsu is IMO the best flourocarbon on the market right now given all of its qualities. It would be the line to use if money isn't an issue. Sunline Shooter is one of the most sensitive flourocarbon but has more memory and doesn't have the best handling but the trade off is less stretch and more feel. Sniper I what I call a good compromise line with out the big price tag. I would call it a poor mans Tatsu.
I almost exclusively fish all flourocarbon and my reels see Tatsu and Sniper almost exclusively.
Tatsu is expensive but if you have tried other fluoro and got burnt it will restore your faith in using fluoro.
InvizX is to Sniper as AbrazX is to Shooter. I switched from Seaguar myself to Sunline had a couple quips but since that first week no problems. Both good lines. I left Seaguar because they don't stand behind their products. As far as mono goes I prefer Sufix Elite and Siege not crazy about super natural or Senshi.
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On 10/22/2015 at 9:07 AM, dam0007 said:InvizX is to Sniper as AbrazX is to Shooter. I switched from Seaguar myself to Sunline had a couple quips but since that first week no problems. Both good lines. I left Seaguar because they don't stand behind their products. As far as mono goes I prefer Sufix Elite and Siege not crazy about super natural or Senshi.
Sorry this is close but not correct. Invisix has more stretch than Sniper. Abrisix is half the line that Shooter is especially for stretch and feel.
Price comparison:
200 yard spool, 15-16 lb test.
Seaguar Tatsu $45
Seaguar AbrazX $24
Sunline Sniper $27
Sunline Shooter $39
109 yard spool
Toray Superhard Premium High Test $34 (*200 yard spool not available, estimate = $60.)
Sunline Shooter was the 1st FC I used about 20 years ago, then they raised price by changing the 300 meter spool to 200 yards at the same $39.
Changed to Toray Superhard Hi Test at $40 with 300 meter spool, liked it better than Shooter, then it changed to 109 yard spool same price.
Went back to Sunline Super Sniper at $27 for 200 spool and stayed with it now for about 2 years, good line but not as good as Toray regarding knot, impact and abrasion strength, just can't justify the price of either Tatsu or Toray for improved performance, unless tournament fishing.
Tom
i use Sunline Sniper and Sunline Shooter Metan Green , but if truth be told , i would use nothing but Toray Super Hard Strong if they sold it in 200 yd spools ($30-35 for a 100 meter spool is too much for me !) at a reasonable price . best flourocarbon line i have ever used , like using an invisible sinking braid !!!
On 10/22/2015 at 9:07 AM, dam0007 said:InvizX is to Sniper as AbrazX is to Shooter. I switched from Seaguar myself to Sunline had a couple quips but since that first week no problems. Both good lines. I left Seaguar because they don't stand behind their products. As far as mono goes I prefer Sufix Elite and Siege not crazy about super natural or Senshi.
Maybe im old school but I have used stren mono since I was about 7, it does have more stretch than most but im not concerned about it for topwaters. I have had almost no problems with it since then. I bought a spool of 8lb suffix only later to figure out it was copoly and not mono even though it didn't say anywhere on the package it was copoly.
I'm a Sunline guy myself, but I've never had any bad experiences with Seaguar in the times that I have tried it. Neither brand will treat you badly.
I didn't get into specifics I stated the comparisons to generalize the 2 main FCs for each brand for the OP. If he already uses one brand he'll know which direction to look at the next brand. Obviously the lines are different lolOn 10/22/2015 at 9:44 AM, kickerfish1 said:Sorry this is close but not correct. Invisix has more stretch than Sniper. Abrisix is half the line that Shooter is especially for stretch and feel.
On 10/22/2015 at 9:05 PM, 1099gl said:Maybe im old school but I have used stren mono since I was about 7, it does have more stretch than most but im not concerned about it for topwaters. I have had almost no problems with it since then. I bought a spool of 8lb suffix only later to figure out it was copoly and not mono even though it didn't say anywhere on the package it was copoly.
Idk it says monofilament right on the packaging. If it's a copoly that news to me. Either way I love it for top water. Lol
On 10/22/2015 at 9:49 AM, WRB said:Price comparison:
200 yard spool, 15-16 lb test.
Seaguar Tatsu $45
Seaguar AbrazX $24
Sunline Sniper $27
Sunline Shooter $39
109 yard spool
Toray Superhard Premium High Test $34 (*200 yard spool not available, estimate = $60.)
Sunline Shooter was the 1st FC I used about 20 years ago, then they raised price by changing the 300 meter spool to 200 yards at the same $39.
Changed to Toray Superhard Hi Test at $40 with 300 meter spool, liked it better than Shooter, then it changed to 109 yard spool same price.
Went back to Sunline Super Sniper at $27 for 200 spool and stayed with it now for about 2 years, good line but not as good as Toray regarding knot, impact and abrasion strength, just can't justify the price of either Tatsu or Toray for improved performance, unless tournament fishing.
Tom
I buy the 660 yard spools of sniper whenever there's a sale or eBay. Usually roughly around $45 on average for 7# 10# and 12# which is what I've been throwing this year.
On 10/22/2015 at 10:50 PM, dam0007 said:Idk it says monofilament right on the packaging. If it's a copoly that news to me. Either way I love it for top water. Lol
it is monofilament construction (single strand) but the filament is made of a copolymer compound instead of just nylon or just fluorocarbon. i think there might be some confusion with cofilament lines like yozuri hybrid and pline fluoroclear which have a two-layer construction.
Sunline fc sniper all the way
After spending a pile of money and quite a bit of time with different lines I'll stick with Power Pro and P-Line CX. I've had great success with both.
Of all the lines I've tried Seagaur Invisx (JUNK) was my least favorite line. Seaguar customer service is awful. After wasting $85.00 I thought it would be in my best interest never to buy anything Seaguar again.
I like seaguar a bunch haven't had any problems with it. I mostly use invizx but when money is tight red label gets the nod. I've never tried sunline floro. But seaguar is gold in my book
I used to do combat shooting and found that each particular pistol had a significant preference for one brand od ammo. So I would begin shooting 5 or 6 brands of the same ammo and ALWAYS, each would be more accurate with one brand especially.
I have very similar results with my reels (even with same diameter lines). My Zonda 10 prefers Tatsu.
My Steez likes the Biwako Guide special. My Curado 50 loves the Yozuri. The T3 1016 likes the Silver thread.
When I say "likes" I mean it casts better, with less effort, and is very manageable with no issues
So I do just like my combat shooting: I will try 4-5 lines to see. And I find there is a significant difference and it may be totally different than an identical reel. My 2 Steez 103s prefer different lines.
Am I the only person who actually experiences this? It was a breakthrough in lines and reels for me.
I too have had no success with Senshi & Super Natural. Both handle nicely, but seemed brittle. I used both in 12# and had many break offs senko fishing. Knot strength seemed low.
I think #7 lb. Sunline Sniper for finesse applications is unique and amazing - my do everything FC finesse line for spinning ! For baitcaster set ups I use #12lb. Invizx for T-Rig and #15 lb. Abrazx for jig and C-Rig ...Once my spools of Seaguar are used up I will switch to #14 lb & #16 lb. Sunline Sniper on my baitcasters to standardize on one brand of FC line... On my braided line outfits I use Seaguar Red Lable for FC leaders and Sufix Elite for mono leaders.
ChrisD, I actually spooled up with some 10# Red Label. Handles pretty nicely imo.
While I like you analogy, I don't think any line is different from one reel to another. All reels have bearings, spools, and the same basic concept. What you think is your line may actually be the reels that feel better to you.On 10/31/2015 at 2:01 AM, Silas said:I used to do combat shooting and found that each particular pistol had a significant preference for one brand od ammo. So I would begin shooting 5 or 6 brands of the same ammo and ALWAYS, each would be more accurate with one brand especially.
I have very similar results with my reels (even with same diameter lines). My Zonda 10 prefers Tatsu.
My Steez likes the Biwako Guide special. My Curado 50 loves the Yozuri. The T3 1016 likes the Silver thread.
When I say "likes" I mean it casts better, with less effort, and is very manageable with no issues
So I do just like my combat shooting: I will try 4-5 lines to see. And I find there is a significant difference and it may be totally different than an identical reel. My 2 Steez 103s prefer different lines.
Am I the only person who actually experiences this? It was a breakthrough in lines and reels for me.
On 10/31/2015 at 6:25 AM, PitchinJigz said:While I like you analogy, I don't think any line is different from one reel to another. All reels have bearings, spools, and the same basic concept. What you think is your line may actually be the reels that feel better to you.
Actually, I meant taking EACH reel and trying several lines on it of the same diameter. For instance I might try Trilene, Sufix, Tatsu, Yozuri, Sunline, all of same diameter on that ONE reel, and will find that one brand casts and has fewer issues tan the other 4 I tried.
And possibly I'm just getting Senile also. LOL!
Load your own ammo. Try using TangleFree line dressing, tends to improve all line types.On 10/31/2015 at 2:01 AM, Silas said:I used to do combat shooting and found that each particular pistol had a significant preference for one brand od ammo. So I would begin shooting 5 or 6 brands of the same ammo and ALWAYS, each would be more accurate with one brand especially.
I have very similar results with my reels (even with same diameter lines). My Zonda 10 prefers Tatsu.
My Steez likes the Biwako Guide special. My Curado 50 loves the Yozuri. The T3 1016 likes the Silver thread.
When I say "likes" I mean it casts better, with less effort, and is very manageable with no issues
So I do just like my combat shooting: I will try 4-5 lines to see. And I find there is a significant difference and it may be totally different than an identical reel. My 2 Steez 103s prefer different lines.
Am I the only person who actually experiences this? It was a breakthrough in lines and reels for me.
Tom
On 10/22/2015 at 7:47 AM, Glenn said:I've been using Seaguar Tatsu 15lb for a few years now, and have had no complaints whatsoever. It's not wiry or unmanageable, has excellent knot strength, and great abrasion resistance. I've never had a reason to switch.
If I were to try anything Seaguar it would be Tatsu. They charge enough for it, it has to be good. I've never seen a bad review about it.
Sunline's #1 is also expensive. Best way to know what you like is to buy both and have at it. That's what I did with braid lines. It was worth the money and time.
On 10/31/2015 at 9:42 AM, WPCfishing said:If I were to try anything Seaguar it would be Tatsu. They charge enough for it, it has to be good. I've never seen a bad review about it.
Sunline's #1 is also expensive. Best way to know what you like is to buy both and have at it. That's what I did with braid lines. It was worth the money and time.
^^^Just gotta try it! Probly the best recommendation here haha.
The real question is how Sunline's Model FC compares to Seaguar's Red Label.
On 10/31/2015 at 3:50 PM, Robert Riley said:^^^Just gotta try it! Probly the best recommendation here haha.
The real question is how Sunline's Model FC compares to Seaguar's Red Label.
I've used Seaguar Red Label and Invisx. The Red label was a decent line the Invisix (bad spool) wasn't.