Flipping/Pitching 2025
JigMaster4 reply :
I am going to get a flipping/pitching rod and was wondering if you think the Fenwick HMG 7'6" mh/ef rod would suffice, or do you think the 7'5" elite tech h/ef would suit my needs better?
Thanks!
GTHenson reply :
How tall are you? and how heavy of a weight are you planning on throwing? I flip with a 7'11" rod, extra heavy. A 7'6" m/h would be pushing it for me.
JigMaster4 reply :
about 5'10", max would probably be 3/4 oz, but an occasional 1oz.
GTHenson reply :
I would go with a 7'11" extra heavy, I know it sounds like a lot of rod but in my opinion it's needed. You will have a lot more accuracy and distance with a longer rod. And more leverage when you hook one of the giants that comes from flipping/pitching.
Bluebasser86 reply :
Are you flipping and pitching or punching grass? 3/4 to 1oz sounds like you're punching the thick stuff to me. Your height has nothing to do with how long a rod you can use. I use rods up to 8' with no issues and I'm only 6' tall. If you're punching, I'd get something closer to 8' because it allows you to lift up on the fish more to pull them up and out of the cover. If you're flipping and pitching wood or sparse grass, either of the rods you asked about will work, just pick which one feels best to you.
JigMaster4 reply :
I will mostly be pitching and flipping to cover, not a lot of grass, I said the max would be 3/4oz, but majority would probably be a 1/2 oz jig or t-rig.
Jeff H reply :
Now that B.A.S.S has changed their rod length rule, isn't everybody going to get a 10' flipping rod? I gotta get me one, maybe a 9' Premier Musky rod or something.
I'll wait until they build a new 10' Tule Dipper I guess 
d-camarena reply :
Mh-xf is enough for that. 7'6 is plenty long also. For punching i use a 7'6 heavy mod-fast and ive never felt like i need something bigger
Catt reply :
My favorite jig rod Shimano Crucial CRC-X610MH
Length: 6' 10
Line: 10-20 lb
Lure: 3/8-3/4
Power: Medium Heavy
Action: Extra Fast
GTHenson reply :
Your height has nothing to do with it? Seriously? Have you ever seen a little kid trying to handle a 7-8' rod with a 3/4-1oz weight on the end of it?
WRB reply :
Every time someone combines flipping with pitching and doesn't know the difference makes it impossible to reply.
IF you plan to cast the jig using the reel you need a rod and reel combo that casts good. IF you plan to cast the jig using a long rod and the line only you are "flipping"! IF you use a rod and reel and use the line like a flip cast letting out more off the reel to extend the cast you are "pitching"!
Both flipping and pitching requires you to be close to your targeted bass, within 10' for flipping, 30' for pitching. For both presentations the rod has little to do with casting, everything to do with power lifting the bass out of the cover you are fishing. Medium heavy flipping rod makes no sense, you can flip with 12' broom stick.
Tom
GTHenson reply :
On 10/9/2016 at 1:25 PM, Bluebasser86 said:Are you flipping and pitching or punching grass? 3/4 to 1oz sounds like you're punching the thick stuff to me. Your height has nothing to do with how long a rod you can use. I use rods up to 8' with no issues and I'm only 6' tall. If you're punching, I'd get something closer to 8' because it allows you to lift up on the fish more to pull them up and out of the cover. If you're flipping and pitching wood or sparse grass, either of the rods you asked about will work, just pick which one feels best to you.
Height has a lot to do with the what length rod you use. Arm length has a lot to do with it. You can help somebody be a lot more comfortable by cutting or adding 1-2 inches of rod length by their height.
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 1:13 AM, GTHenson said:Height has a lot to do with the what length rod you use. Arm length has a lot to do with it. You can help somebody be a lot more comfortable by cutting or adding 1-2 inches of rod length by their height.
not accurate at all , so a guy who is 5'6'' tall should only use a 6' swimbait rod to throw a 5 oz. swimbait ??? come on !
rods are tools , you use the right tool for the job . for flipping , punching , and swimbaits , you need a longer rod for leverage and to be able to make an accurate presentation
GTHenson reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 1:47 AM, Big Bait Fishing said:not accurate at all
So somebody won't be more comfortable with a shorter or longer rod? All rod lengths are universal for every single person? Is that what you're saying?
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 1:52 AM, GTHenson said:So somebody won't be more comfortable with a shorter or longer rod? All rod lengths are universal for every single person? Is that what you're saying?
i edited and expanded on my post
GTHenson reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 1:47 AM, Big Bait Fishing said:not accurate at all , so a guy who is 5'6'' tall should only use a 6' swimbait rod to throw a 5 oz. swimbait ??? come on !
rods are tools , you use the right tool for the job . for flipping , punching , and swimbaits , you need a longer rod for leverage and to be able to make an accurate presentation
No, that's not what I was saying! I'm a taller guy, I'm close to 6'5" and in some techniques I throw a longer rod than my partner because it's just a little too much for the way he fishes the technique. Fish with a lot of different people and pay attention to their gear and how the use it, you'll see that different height and build people will choose slightly different rod sizes. For comfort or usability I'm not saying the difference between using a 7'11" or a 7'6" but just an inch or two difference!
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 2:02 AM, GTHenson said:No, that's not what I was saying! I'm a taller guy, I'm close to 6'5" and in some techniques I throw a longer rod than my partner because it's just a little too much for the way he fishes the technique. Fish with a lot of different people and pay attention to their gear and how the use it, you'll see that different height and build people will choose slightly different rod sizes. For comfort or usability I'm not saying the difference between using a 7'11" or a 7'6" but just an inch or two difference!
of course people use different length rods , but on the subject of flipping and/or pitching , a long rod is used for short line presentations and for leverage when bit . a longer rod is benificial for pendulum casting .
there a lot of guys/gals that use , in my opinion , very short rods (6') , for me i like rods at a minimum of 7'6'' but prefer 8' rods , my swimbait rod is 9' , i'm 6'1'' .
GTHenson reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 2:11 AM, Big Bait Fishing said:of course people use different length rods , but on the subject of flipping and/or pitching , a long rod is used for short line presentations and for leverage when bit . a longer rod is benificial for pendulum casting .
there a lot of guys/gals that use , in my opinion , very short rods (6') , for me i like rods at a minimum of 7'6'' but prefer 8' rods , my swimbait rod is 9' , i'm 6'1'' .
That's right! What started this was when I saw the guys profile picture he looked like a shorter guy, that's Why I asked his height, I didn't want to tell somebody who is vertically challenged to go out and get a 10 foot rod to try and wield around, lol.
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 2:25 AM, GTHenson said:That's right! What started this was when I saw the guys profile picture he looked like a shorter guy, that's Why I asked his height, I didn't want to tell somebody who is vertically challenged to go out and get a 10 foot rod to try and wield around, lol.
you would be suprised how many guys that are average height (5'6'' -5'9'') who use 8'6''-10'6'' musky rods !! you use the right tool for the job 
GTHenson reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 2:32 AM, Big Bait Fishing said:you would be suprised how many guys that are average height (5'6'' -5'9'') who use 8'6''-10'6'' musky rods !! you use the right tool for the job
I understand that! But you would also be surprised at how many nicks I've had put in the side of my boats because a co angler read in a magazine that he needs to have a certain size rod to pitch with when they really could have gone down an inch or two!
WRB reply :
This thread took a turn fast!
Let me remind everyone that Dee Thomas used 12' to 14' rods to flip with and as I recall Dee is about 5' 8" tall. My point is you don't use the reel to flip with, the longer the rod is an advantage.
Tom
Gundog reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 2:25 AM, GTHenson said:That's right! What started this was when I saw the guys profile picture he looked like a shorter guy, that's Why I asked his height, I didn't want to tell somebody who is vertically challenged to go out and get a 10 foot rod to try and wield around, lol.
I just object to being called "vertically challenged". I prefer Short-American.
sgibby88 reply :
I use a 7ft rod for pitching and flipping since I find myself in tight spots a lot fishing. Sadly no boat yet 
. Once I do get a boat though ill grab a 7`5 7`6 rod. I'm only 5`6 and don't really care for throwing an 8 ft+ rod. But that's my preference
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 3:30 AM, Gundog said:I just object to being called "vertically challenged". I prefer Short-American.
Columbia Craw reply :
I'll try to get to the point of your question. The Heavy EF would be your choice based on the lure weights, the cover types and the fact it's one of two options you mentioned. Very few anglers actually flip anymore. The reels are so good and the pitching technique is so efficient, utilizing a single haul flip isn't commonly used anymore. A 7'5" rod will be fine.
OCdockskipper reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 2:25 AM, GTHenson said:... I saw the guys profile picture he looked like a shorter guy...
Yeah, he is barely taller than that fish. If he falls overboard during a tournament, he would be disqualified for chumming...
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
When building a custom Rod physical stature is taken into consideration as far as handle design (length and diameter) but overall length is dictated by application. A 5' lady can fish a 9' fly rod and a 6'5 guy may want a 6' shooter for skipping under docks
GTHenson reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 3:30 AM, Gundog said:I just object to being called "vertically challenged". I prefer Short-American.
???? that's priceless.
Big Bait Fishing reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 5:07 AM, Columbia Craw said:I'll try to get to the point of your question. The Heavy EF would be your choice based on the lure weights, the cover types and the fact it's one of two options you mentioned. Very few anglers actually flip anymore. The reels are so good and the pitching technique is so efficient, utilizing a single haul flip isn't commonly used anymore. A 7'5" rod will be fine.
is that so ?? 
Catt reply :
Comfort!
What's comfortable to me may not be comfortable for you!
I cast, flip, & pitch with one rod because I'm totally comfortable with how it feels, the way it balances with my Calcutta attached.
Oh! By the way I'm 5' 11 3/4" & my rod is only 6' 10"
Dan_the_fisher reply :
The more you flip, the longer the Rod you will want. It increases distance the longer the Rod you have because you get more line out to flip with, a 8' heavy parabolic Rod is what I think you want and it's a good mix for both worlds
Bluebasser86 reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 3:30 AM, Gundog said:I just object to being called "vertically challenged". I prefer Short-American.
My wife is only 5' 1". She doesn't like being called short, so I call her "fun sized", like the mini candy bars 
crypt reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 8:50 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:When building a custom Rod physical stature is taken into consideration as far as handle design (length and diameter) but overall length is dictated by application. A 5' lady can fish a 9' fly rod and a 6'5 guy may want a 6' shooter for skipping under docks
see above. they know what they're talking about. I have 4 flipping/pitching/punching rods. from 7-3 to 8 ft. each one has a different application. find what works for you.
Catt reply :
What makes a good flipping/pitching stick is completely personal preference.
This is why I hate the term "technique specific", I don't need Gary Loomis telling me what my rod should feel like.
WPCfishing reply :
If you can live with a 7' rod I recommend the Lews Magnum One. The rod is a monster... I've hauled more 5 plus bass out of heavy cover with this rod than any of my others. Don't be fooled by the lure weight ratings. I have a rods rated to 2oz that aren't as much a stick as the Magnum One.
MIbassyaker reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 3:30 AM, Gundog said:I just object to being called "vertically challenged". I prefer Short-American.
I prefer "concentrated"
OCdockskipper reply :
On 10/10/2016 at 3:15 PM, Bluebasser86 said:My wife is only 5' 1". She doesn't like being called short, so I call her "fun sized", like the mini candy bars
My wife has a shirt that says "I'm not short, I'm fun sized". Not sure where she got it, probably one of those T-shirt sites online.
GTHenson reply :
Catt reply :
OK after being fussed by guys who fish with me I need to clarify something!
I don't really "flip" because of dense cover when I'm within flipping distance I've got a punch rod in my hand.
WPCfishing reply :
I use a 6' Team Diawa MHF for short casts into heavy cover. Usually with a 3/8-1/2oz punch jig. For longer casts I use a Lews Custom Lite Magnum Grass with a 1/2oz or heavier punch jig. I always peg the head with a tooth pic. Old school, you know.
Finnz922 reply :
Irod Genesis I I Andy's Junk Rod if you want a parabolic action
Or
IROD Genesis I I Andy's X Heavy Flippin' Stick
Or
IROD Crusher 764 if you prefer a faster more traditional action.
I really like my Crusher. Very sensitive in my hands
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