Ticked Off!!! 2024
Mccallister25 reply :
Ok guys, ill start off by saying i usually fish all my rigs with 10# mono, except for my jig rod which was given to me by a buddy. I never thought to ask what lb. line was on there. Im also new to fluorocarbon. I stopped in by walmart after work to grab some Berkley vanish 12# fluoro. Spooled it up and threw a jig on there. Improved clinch knot... Now to why Im ticked lol.
I get out to my local pond to mess around with the new line. Casted once to the middle to see how everything felt and it was good. Second cast i threw parralel to the bank. Let it sit there a few seconds, and felt the bad boy slam the jig!! I set my hook, and everything was golden.. He looked to be about 3 pounds. When i got him to the bank, i pulled on my line to grab him, and the line snapped. He hit the water, and took off with my jig.
Thats my first experience with fluoro. How did this happen? What lb. test do I need to buy for jigging?
CPBassFishing reply :
Did the line snap or did the knot unravel? Check for a little curl at the end of the line. If it is there your knot failed. Try a uni-knot or palomar. Other than that, everything I have heard about that fluoro is bad. Supposedly it breaks extremely easily. Get some good fluoro. I use 17lb for jig fishing.
Mccallister25 reply :
Thanks for the reply man. Ill check my line, and ill try some newer line. Any brand i need to check out?
CPBassFishing reply :
If you can afford it go for the premium fluoros like Sunline Sniper or Gamma Edge. Some other good ones that are slightly cheaper are P-line, Seaguar, and Bass pro shops XPS fluoro. Just stay away from anything berkley when it comes to fluoro IMHO.
TNBassin' reply :
Isn't the joke about Berkley Vanish that the line sucks so bad, that you'll watch your fish vanish with your lure when it breaks? Could've sworn there was a thread about this not too long ago.
MarkH024 reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:23 AM, TNBassin said:Isn't the joke about Berkley Vanish that the line sucks so bad, that you'll watch your fish vanish with your lure when it breaks? Could've sworn there was a thread about this not too long ago.
Yea. Take it off...save yourself the headache. Seaguar Red Label has been good to me.
BamaBassChaser reply :
I've used Sunline Super for a year or so and just started using their Sniper. I haven't had any problems from either one.
hooah212002 reply :
Seaguar, Seaguar, and some more Seaguar.
BamaBoy5 reply :
X2On 7/4/2013 at 9:32 AM, hooah212002 said:Seaguar, Seaguar, and some more Seaguar.
Mccallister25 reply :
Well, I just checked my line, and it wasnt my knot. There was a clean break in the line. I wish I would have known to stay away from it.
Thinking of just going back to a heavier test mono. That sorta left a bad taste in my mouth.
tomustang reply :
Vanish. Your lures will "vanish", called that for a reason.
00 mod reply :
Don't give up on flouro just yet. I was actually just getting a couple rods together for in the morning and wanted one to throw topwater and then switch to something else after the am topwater bite died. I had trouble finding a rod I wanted to use WITHOUT flouro. I would suggest trying Seaguar Invisx and Abrasix. Also check into a good co-poly like Yo-Zuri hybrid!
Jeff
POPRG reply :
If its your dedicated jig rod,you may want to try a braided line..i was throwing my med-hvy rod,30# power pro w/ a 15# flouro LEADER..[there is a difference between FC line and leader material] all day today and never swithed set-ups.
Fished a 3/8 oz. arky jig most of the day in the milfoil beds,switched over to a 1/2 oz.spinnerbait,and ended the evening with a spook..worked fine for all of these applications.
I know there are better set ups for technique specific baits,and i use them often,but this has consistantly been my favorite "all-in-one" combo.
lmbfisherman reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:03 AM, BigBlock496 said:Ok guys, ill start off by saying i usually fish all my rigs with 10# mono, except for my jig rod which was given to me by a buddy. I never thought to ask what lb. line was on there. Im also new to fluorocarbon. I stopped in by walmart after work to grab some Berkley vanish 12# fluoro. Spooled it up and threw a jig on there. Improved clinch knot... Now to why Im ticked lol.
I get out to my local pond to mess around with the new line. Casted once to the middle to see how everything felt and it was good. Second cast i threw parralel to the bank. Let it sit there a few seconds, and felt the bad boy slam the jig!! I set my hook, and everything was golden.. He looked to be about 3 pounds. When i got him to the bank, i pulled on my line to grab him, and the line snapped. He hit the water, and took off with my jig.
Thats my first experience with fluoro. How did this happen? What lb. test do I need to buy for jigging?
As soon as I read that part, I knew already. It isn't floro that is the problem, Vanish is HORRIBLE. Don't buy Stren either, get one of the lines the guys have suggested above.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
Changing brands is not a bad idea, while at it I'd step up the line weight a little and be sure to wet your knots. I'd also go with a Palomar or something else better than the clinch for fluoro.
Kevin22 reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:25 AM, MarkH024 said:Yea. Take it off...save yourself the headache. Seaguar Red Label has been good to me.
I second that. Havent used any heavy stuff, but I like the red label for finesse and shakey heads so far. Cheap too, I think I paid $12 for 250 yards.
I would use either 17 or 20 for jigs.
basshole8190 reply :
Try vicious flourocarbon its strong smooth and about the same price as vanish but a much better quality id use no less than 17# and wet your line before tying knots on fc. and retie often especially after a fish or snag as they can compromise your knot
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:23 AM, TNBassin said:Isn't the joke about Berkley Vanish that the line sucks so bad, that you'll watch your fish vanish with your lure when it breaks? Could've sworn there was a thread about this not too long ago.
There was but it... VANISHED
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:44 AM, BigBlock496 said:Well, I just checked my line, and it wasnt my knot. There was a clean break in the line. I wish I would have known to stay away from it.
Thinking of just going back to a heavier test mono. That sorta left a bad taste in my mouth.
Im sure that bass with the jig still stuck in it isnt too happy as well.
I wonder if that is now a status symbol to the other fish it meets.Like, Hey guys look I broke that sucker of took its jig, Should have seen the look on its face as I swam away. It thought it had me but I fishtailed it out of there.
paul25 reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:25 AM, MarkH024 said:Yea. Take it off...save yourself the headache. Seaguar Red Label has been good to me.
x2 and the invisx
JunkYard814 reply :
I've been using Invisx on my spinning outfit, and Trilene fluorocarbon on my casting set-up, both with the Trilene knot and have yet to have a problem.
As for your jig, you could always invest in a pair of goggles and a snorkel.
rippin-lips reply :
I use Sunline sniper but it can be expensive. That being said the Berkley 100% fluorocarbon is pretty good stuff. Depending on what you fish braid might not be a bad choice either. Also as mentioned step up to a higher test 17-20
jtesch reply :
Vanish sucks, Seaguar or sunline with a palomar knot and wet it before you tighten it
tritondriver reply :
on youtube there is a video of shaw grigsby and a few others tieing a knot they use for floro. not sure they named it but I have two cranks tied on using the knot but have not thrown them yet. as for jigs I use 20lb McCoy and 15lb McCoy on all other rods...have never had a broken line in 15 years..
Hogsticker reply :
Fluoro is an interesting animal. Most of these somewhat brittle lines will snap if you try to lift or move a fish by pulling on the line. Could this have been part of the problem? Well that and Vanish is pretty terrible.
*Hootie reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:42 AM, BamaBoy5 said:X2
X10....Lately I've been using Abrazx, and Red Label, and I like them both.
Hootie
PondBoss reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 8:38 PM, tritondriver said:on youtube there is a video of shaw grigsby and a few others tieing a knot they use for floro. not sure they named it but I have two cranks tied on using the knot but have not thrown them yet. as for jigs I use 20lb McCoy and 15lb McCoy on all other rods...have never had a broken line in 15 years..
That knot is the SanDiego Jam.
PondBoss reply :
I had the same problem with Vanish when I first started using it. Turns out I was using the wrong knot. I was also using the improved clinch. Try the San Diego Jam. Since I've switched to that knot I've had zero problems. And use Vanish quite a bit.
0119 reply :
Interesting there can be 2 pages of negative stuff on Berkley made floro, 3 pages complaining about a Abu spinning reel and in the general forum a thread is locked for commenting about BPS' poor shipping practices. Oh yeah we cant complain about sponsors listed at the right....duh
skeletor6 reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 3:38 PM, jtesch said:Vanish sucks, Seaguar or sunline with a palomar knot and wet it before you tighten it
I agree with your line brand choices. However, a palomar knot is not the best choice for fluorocarbon. The line crosses back on itself when tying this knot and it weakens the line. There are many good alternatives, I prefer using the pitzen knot.
We almost should have a tagged thread about berkley vanish. This thread is almost identical to the one posted not that long ago.
Grantman83 reply :
I gotta say I had no problems ever with 14lb vanish on my fluke setup..used it for 3 year with no problems. Must have gotten lucky. That being said, I switched to higher end fluoro like sniper shooter and invizx and haven't looked back. Invizx has stretch but is smooth casting.
roadwarrior reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:52 AM, 00 mod said:Don't give up on flouro just yet. I was actually just getting a couple rods together for in the morning and wanted one to throw topwater and then switch to something else after the am topwater bite died. I had trouble finding a rod I wanted to use WITHOUT flouro. I would suggest trying Seaguar Invisx and Abrasix. Also check into a good co-poly like Yo-Zuri hybrid!
Jeff
Excellent advice!
Blues19 reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:03 AM, BigBlock496 said:Ok guys, ill start off by saying i usually fish all my rigs with 10# mono, except for my jig rod which was given to me by a buddy. I never thought to ask what lb. line was on there. Im also new to fluorocarbon. I stopped in by walmart after work to grab some Berkley vanish 12# fluoro. Spooled it up and threw a jig on there. Improved clinch knot... Now to why Im ticked lol.
I get out to my local pond to mess around with the new line. Casted once to the middle to see how everything felt and it was good. Second cast i threw parralel to the bank. Let it sit there a few seconds, and felt the bad boy slam the jig!! I set my hook, and everything was golden.. He looked to be about 3 pounds. When i got him to the bank, i pulled on my line to grab him, and the line snapped. He hit the water, and took off with my jig.
Thats my first experience with fluoro. How did this happen? What lb. test do I need to buy for jigging?
One of my fishing partners had rods with 12# vanish and 10# Vanish. The 10# worked great, but the 12# broke and broke and broke until he finally figured it out. I think he lost at least 3 fish. I fish bass pro excel Mono or berkley Big Game Mono, except for Power Pro Braid for frogs and i do just fine.
bigbill reply :
I been using Excalibur silver thread copolymer line for many years. But a tighter
Budget I figure it was time to switch to a cheaper copolymer line another affordable brand. My point is not all the copolymer lines are the same too I been having problems keeping my knots tight too. I think it's time to switch back to what works in the past for me I found out the hassle just isn't worth saving the $$$'
.
Now I'd like to try the hydrocarbon line but do I use leaders or spool it? Does it have no stretch like copolymer?
roadwarrior reply :
Geez...
There are two great copolymer lines: P-Line and Yo-Zuri.
Yo-Zuri is much more "user friendly".
Smallmouth Hunter reply :
On 7/4/2013 at 9:44 AM, BigBlock496 said:Well, I just checked my line, and it wasnt my knot. There was a clean break in the line. I wish I would have known to stay away from it.
Thinking of just going back to a heavier test mono. That sorta left a bad taste in my mouth.
If you don't like fluoro (I don't like it much either), go with copoly. It has some qualities that mono has that fluoro doesn't and vice-versa. It is a nice medium between the two lines.
rangerboy reply :
try the p line copoly, wont break the bank, think you can get 300yrds for under 20 bucks at bass pro or tackle w. offers the best of both worlds. but fluro has a place in the boat. try not to lift the fish up by the line , easy way to break one off. always makes me feel bad that the hooks are stuck in them. treat them good today and enjoy great fishing later.
JunkYard814 reply :
Basically what it comes down to is "you get what you pay for". I look at it this way: is it really saving money if I buy a cheaper fishing line, only to lose several $5-$10 lures while fishing it?
Felix77 reply :
X3. InvizX all the wayOn 7/4/2013 at 9:32 AM, hooah212002 said:Seaguar, Seaguar, and some more Seaguar.
ULG reply :
seaguar!!! start with red label, invisix even better, abrasix even better, but im scared to get some tatsu! lol but vanish, not a good idea, although i have heard some good things about the 100% flouro from the same company and there is a new pro grade flouro thats suppose to drop sometime after icast but i think is menat for spinning gear. i dont think it would hurt to go up to 17 flouro just due to the fact u might need the bigger line due to from i read you fish from the bank, you are kinda limited on space and with the larger line you can horse the fish a little more, i use the biggest line i can get away with honestly n thats never been a hinder to me although some flouros are slightly stiffer in the larger sizes but seaguar invisix is great! but maybe try the advice above in the threads and hopefully it wont happen again!!! good luck bro!
BassinNCstyle reply :
Vanish is junk.
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