Poor Rod Packaging 2024
Nick49 reply :
I just wanted to give members a heads-up. Every high end fishing rod I have ever purchased online came carefully shipped in a hard packing tube. That is, until my most recent purchase through Amazon (supplier - Kingfisher, out of Montana I believe). I received the broken St. Croix Avid rod in a cardboard box with no packing material. Kingfisher claims it is the fault of Amazon, but I can't imagine Kingfisher sending the rod to Amazon or anyone else without a rod tube. And I can't imagine Amazon transferring the rod from a reliable rod tube to a flimsy cardboard box. Amazon obviously provided return postage and credited my account, but while Amazon and Kingfisher point their fingers at each other I will be sticking with more reliable suppliers like Tackle Warehouse.
MN Fisher reply :
Two rods I ordered off Amazon were shipped by Evike - both came in hard tubes, well packed with bubble-wrap around the tips and handles to support the rod in the center of the tube. I'd check who the origin-shipper was.
kayaking_kev reply :
You must of never got a rod shipped from Dicks Sporting Goods.
OG Crankster reply :
Sounds like someone at Dick's shipped your rod. They are equally as bad.
cookieman reply :
obviously no one on here orders rods from Dicks after reading all the bad things about them. If getting them for free maybe but if not cant feel sorry for broken rods. Shame on them that are buying rods frome them
ike8120 reply :
My KastKing rod from Amazon came in a heavy tube. Best tubes are from TW.
FishinBuck07 reply :
I am so glad I have an amazing local tackle shop that I can go and buy all my stuff!
new2BC4bass reply :
On 12/9/2019 at 7:13 AM, FishinBuck07 said:I am so glad I have an amazing local tackle shop that I can go and buy all my stuff!
Geeooodd I envy you!!!!!!!
stratoliner92 reply :
I've had a rod come like that when it said, "fulfilled by Amazon". I had another that came in a tube from them when it was shipped by an actual sporting goods store. So now I just make sure it doesn't say fulfilled by Amazon.
X3 on Dicks sporting goods, never again
STBen1215 reply :
If the company ships in cardboard, they are clueless lol. Only PVC for me. Best way hands down.
Scott F reply :
On 12/9/2019 at 9:15 AM, STBen1215 said:If the company ships in cardboard, they are clueless lol. Only PVC for me. Best way hands down.
I just got 3 rods and reels from St. Croix. Came in a cardboard box with the air-filled plastic packing material. I’ve gotten rods only direct from St. Croix before in tubes, but obviously, the reel boxes weren’t going to fit in tubes, so everything came in one box. St. Croix isn’t clueless. If the box is sturdy and packed correctly, cardboard can work just fine. I’ve never seen or heard of any company using PVC tubes.
STBen1215 reply :
On 12/9/2019 at 10:30 AM, Scott F said:I just got 3 rods and reels from St. Croix. Came in a cardboard box with the air-filled plastic packing material. I’ve gotten rods only direct from St. Croix before in tubes, but obviously, the reel boxes weren’t going to fit in tubes, so everything came in one box. St. Croix isn’t clueless. If the box is sturdy and packed correctly, cardboard can work just fine. I’ve never seen or heard of any company using PVC tubes.
You are correct that carboard can hold up well if properly done. But unfortunately packages see a lot of abuse and unfortunately cardboard falls to pvc in every aspect in terms of safeguarding contents. But it weighs more and is more expensive. But it comes down to the thickness and quality of packaging as cardboard is more than capable. Glad to hear you received yours safely!
Trust me as I use to work at Fedex as a loader in high school. Kistler use to sell and use PVC and I see quite a few companies still use PVC but cardboard is the overwhelming majority as they have business accounts and receive highly discounted rates and have insurance on them.
I have shipped many rods for travel and selling old rods (over 50) and only ever broken 2 which were both in cardboard tubes, which were reused tubes but when I switched to using PVC all of my packages arrive safe and sound. Will only ship in PVC as I don't have to insure packages as much now as I feel much safer about them arriving securely.
Tight lines!
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 12/9/2019 at 10:30 AM, Scott F said:I just got 3 rods and reels from St. Croix. Came in a cardboard box with the air-filled plastic packing material. I’ve gotten rods only direct from St. Croix before in tubes, but obviously, the reel boxes weren’t going to fit in tubes, so everything came in one box. St. Croix isn’t clueless. If the box is sturdy and packed correctly, cardboard can work just fine. I’ve never seen or heard of any company using PVC tubes.
PVC is the best but not at all cost effective for big shippers.
STBen1215 reply :
On 12/9/2019 at 10:53 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:PVC is the best but not at all cost effective for big shippers.
100% agree with DVT. I was speaking in terms of package safety. But I agree it is more expensive but worth it to me as an individual.
BTW DVT what would it take to get a custom going?
BaitFinesse reply :
The only rod I bought off Amazon came in a cardboard box. I was desperate and came out lucky.
kayaking_kev reply :
Tackle Warehouse has good tubes, but American Legacy's is even better. I've been lucky with Dick's so far, I gotten three rods from them and all made it safely. They were really good deals, A Dobyns Champion for $150 and a Lew's TP-1 and 13 Defy Black.
Fishes in trees reply :
trying to feel your pain, but just can't - I just can't make myself buy a rod over the internet. I have to go to the store and touch and feel it. I realize that this means that there are some brands of rods that I will never have access to. Oh well, life goes on. I understand that if I live somewhere that had much more limited access to fishing gear at brick & mortar stores than I do I'd probably change my tune. But I don't so I'll live with my internet rod purchase phobia.
Dangerfield reply :
Bought my Fury 703sf from Amazon.ca and it came packed from Dobyns in a sturdy tube with PVC caps. I'll likely buy my next one the same way considering they're wayy cheaper than anywhere else.
browne762 reply :
Last year I purchased a couple rods from Kingfisher through Amazon and they were shipped in super oversized boxes with no packaging inside, just the rod flopping around inside. One was even two boxes actually taped together to make a new longer box. I do see lots of bad reviews on Amazon about the condition of how the rods arrive and that has lead me to believe it is mostly on Amazon. I totally assume it is the people at Amazon not giving a care in the world and not knowing anything about what they are shipping. I have also had other items (not fishing related) shipped from Amazon in some real dumb ways.
I don't know how the rods are shipped to Amazon (the might even be drop shipped from the manufacture on the sellers behalf) but they might be shipped in a tube with a few rods at a time which would mean they don't have one rod per tube and then need to "figure it out" when they ship them to a customer. What is funny is Amazon probably has tubes that they sell on their own website that would work...
Regardless, I have decided to no longer order any rods ever from Amazon after having one come busted, then the replacement come busted even worse then the first. The replacement was actually the one shipped in the "build a box" with them putting two boxes together. It was in the shape of a "L" when the USPS driver pulled it from the back of his truck.
I did just receive in a rod shipped in a tube from a reputable online seller known for having good shipping tubes. The tube was smashed and then ripped all the way around. Was just held together with about a half inch of cardboard. Rod totally exposed in the middle. The end of the tube was also hit so hard it was caved in and a 1/3 of the plastic cap was missing. That I blame on the shipping service not giving a crap about what they are transporting.
Hammer 4 reply :
So, over the last 12 years or so, I've bought 12 rods from TW, all shipped in the usual cardboard tubes. None of them were damaged in any way. If these were to be damaged to the point of causing damage to the rod, someone would have to run over them with a USP truck or something.
Steveo-1969 reply :
On 12/9/2019 at 10:56 AM, STBen1215 said:100% agree with DVT. I was speaking in terms of package safety. But I agree it is more expensive but worth it to me as an individual.
BTW DVT what would it take to get a custom going?
BTW if you order a custom rod from @Delaware Valley Tackle it will be shipped to you in a PVC tube...
STBen1215 reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 4:27 AM, Steveo-1969 said:BTW if you order a custom rod from @Delaware Valley Tackle it will be shipped to you in a PVC tube...
Sounds awesome!!!
PhishLI reply :
On 12/11/2019 at 4:22 AM, Hammer 4 said:So, over the last 12 years or so, I've bought 12 rods from TW, all shipped in the usual cardboard tubes. None of them were damaged in any way. If these were to be damaged to the point of causing damage to the rod, someone would have to run over them with a USP truck or something.
I ordered a Lew's TP1 Black back during spring from TW. On the day it was due to arrive I got a text update from UPS that it was re-routed back to the seller. I had a hunch that meant bad news. Oddly, it arrived the next day at my door. The tube had been guillotined just past the halfway point, then shoddily taped back together. It flopped when I picked it up and sure enough the rod was snapped in two. Naturally the rod was back ordered until late September, so that was that. They issued a refund and held the discount over for my next order. They also told me that they ship thousands of rods and a fair percentage get busted by the shipper. They weren't surprised or fazed. I ordered a rod during BF. It arrived safely and all is well.
WRB reply :
Some shippers use a triangular folded cardboard tube that works if it's not crushed.
Tom
Bird reply :
What a coincidence.....had a Tatula rod in my cart, Amazon.
I'll hold off and explore other options.
Thanks
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 12/9/2019 at 10:56 AM, STBen1215 said:100% agree with DVT. I was speaking in terms of package safety. But I agree it is more expensive but worth it to me as an individual.
BTW DVT what would it take to get a custom going?
Email me what you’re looking for and I’ll don you a quote.
Bluebasser86 reply :
Cardboard TUBES are almost as safe as PVC. Cardboard BOXES are not. I've had a few I bought from online outdoor retailers that were primarily golf/hiking/biking/running/ect stores that had some fishing gear for really cheap. They shipped in long cardboard boxes and my stomach always turns when I see that because I know the odds of them being undamaged are not good.
ike8120 reply :
Vendors are going to ship the cheapest way possible. It is 50/50 gamble on how the arrive. Even with poor packaging the rod arrives in good condition, that is a plus for the seller and buyer. If it doesn't they just chalk it up as part of doing business. But if there are enough damaged shipments from a particular vendor, I don't care what the price is buyers will boycott buying from them. On the other hand it also how UPS, FEDX,USPS,Amazon etc. handle your package, They just have a way to destroy any well packaged item.
NYWayfarer reply :
I received my Lew's TP 1 spinning rod yesterday from Dick's. I ordered it during their 25% off your entire order and the rod was already discounted so it was an amazing deal with free shipping as well.
I took a gamble on Dick's shipping, free or not, as it has been horrible in my experience. This time however was not. The rod came in a heavy duty cardboard tube, sealed at both ends. The rod had the tip and handle bubble wrapped.
The handle wrapped in bubble wrap was zip tied and the zip tie was taped to the tube to prevent the rod from moving up and down in the tube.
This was Tackle Warehouse quality shipping from DSG. I was impressed. I can only imagine all the returns on shipped rods made them revamp their shipping system.
SC53 reply :
Ok, I’ve been a packaging engineer for over 45 years so I have a little insight on how things should ship????
PVC is the strongest but also the heaviest and most expensive.
Fiber tubes are what most use and are almost as strong as pvc.
Corrugated is strong enough as long as it is in a triangle shape and not square. If its square, it’ll fail for sure. Being triangle greatly increases its crush strength.
Also, the rod needs to be “suspended” (so to speak) so that it has the ability to flex some with heavy handling.
Best packaging I’ve seen is Dobyns rods.
Solid fiber tube, small piece of foam tubing on the rod tip, plastic sleeve secured around the rod and taped to the ends on the tube so it kinda free floats in the tube. Best I’ve seen.
When I ship a rod I will wrap bubble wrap around it in multiple places so it’s held in place ( but can still move if needed) with a generous amount at each end for tip and butt protection. Into a fiber tube ( I save mine) and ship it.
Paul Roberts reply :
I had a rod sent to me through Amazon without packing too. Interestingly, there was another rod of lower quality I didn't order in with it. That one had a knife slit down the length of the handle, but the plastic sheath was still intact. 
JediAmoeba reply :
I have never had a rod come to me in the mail broken- I have ordered 12 rods online in the past few years too. I have had them come in triangular boxes, cardboard tubes and only 1 in a box. I think 6 have come off Amazon without any problems.
Everyone I have ordered from seems to know what they are doing because the rods are usually suspended in the tube with some bubble pack.
Some have come UPS and some USPS. If they come by way of USPS I have to go pick them up.
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