Not impressed with TD-Z 2024
Hot n Tot reply :
I just got one of the Daiwa TD-Z reels I ordered from Cabelas last week, and I was expecting a nice quiet silky smooth reel. It sounds like their is something dragging or rubbing inside this thing. I hope it gets quieter. I'll koow more when I receive the 2nd one I ordered. It is however, not as silent as a new TD sol, but the handle does turn more freely on the TD-Z than the Sol.
Raul reply :
If you are not impressed sell it.
llPa1nll reply :
QuoteIf you are not impressed sell it.
Bingo!
.ghoti. reply :
Send it back. Cabela's has excellent customer service. They will take care of you.
Redlinerobert reply :
Odd. I have a couple TD-X's and they work great. Perhaps you got a busted one?
Hot n Tot reply :
QuoteOdd. I have a couple TD-X's and they work great. Perhaps you got a busted one?
Not saying it doesn't work great, it's just that I was expecting silent operation. I'm hoping it will get quieter as it gets broken in, or maybe the grease hardened while it was on the shelf? It does feel smooth when you crank it's just that you can hear the spool turn.
Raul reply :
NEW IN BOX and FRESH OUT OF THE ASSEMBLY LINE are not the same, specially with a discontinued reel that no one knows when it was assembled, those reels have been out of production for over a year in the case of the freshest ones.
roadwarrior reply :
"The SR-Concept combines the new concept of Reliance with all aspects of the S-Concept:
Smooth, Silent and Strong."
Oops!
I think that statement reflects the corporate vision from a different Japanese company. :
.ghoti. reply :
Very subtle, RW
Hot n Tot reply :
Maybe I spoke too soon. I received it at work and didn't really have time to fondle it. I got it home and lubricated the spool bearings and put it on a rod to see how it balances...nice. It's really smooth and balances nicely on my GLX. I'm glad I ordered two, so my Legend Elite can have one 8-), Dont want it to feel left out..
burleytog reply :
I'll give you $50 for that piece of junk. 8-)
Jimzee reply :
Got mine today, smooth as butter.
The_Natural reply :
It should not grind or rub, but magnesium reels do have a different feel than aluminum framed reels...Shimano or Daiwa. You can't compare a high-end Magnesium reel to a high end aluminum framed reel; they just have a different feel, more like a high performance sports car versus a luxury sedan. I love my Mg50's, but TD-Z's just shame them. Is this your first magnesium reel? Regardless, if you are not happy with the reel, you have a great opportunity to make money on the reel. I just purchased one off of Ebay last week for $290, which I thought was a great deal. You are sure to make a decent profit on it.
QuoteRe: Not impressed with TD-Z
Reply #7 - Yesterday at 8:11pm Quote
"The SR-Concept combines the new concept of Reliance with all aspects of the S-Concept:
Smooth, Silent and Strong."
Oops!
I think that statement reflects the corporate vision from a different Japanese company. Roll Eyes
Wrong company and wrong reel style ; these are baitcasting reels, whereas the S-Concept pertains to Shimano's line of spinning reels 
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Hot n Tot reply :
QuoteIt should not grind or rub, but magnesium reels do have a different feel than aluminum framed reels...Shimano or Daiwa. You can't compare a high-end Magnesium reel to a high end aluminum framed reel; they just have a different feel, more like a high performance sports car versus a luxury sedan. I love my Mg50's, but TD-Z's just shame them. Is this your first magnesium reel? Regardless, if you are not happy with the reel, you have a great opportunity to make money on the reel. I just purchased one off of Ebay last week for $290, which I thought was a great deal. You are sure to make a decent profit on it.QuoteRe: Not impressed with TD-Z
Reply #7 - Yesterday at 8:11pm Quote
"The SR-Concept combines the new concept of Reliance with all aspects of the S-Concept:
Smooth, Silent and Strong."
Oops!
I think that statement reflects the corporate vision from a different Japanese company. Roll Eyes
Wrong company and wrong reel style
; these are baitcasting reels, whereas the S-Concept pertains to Shimano's line of spinning reels
Well then, are the "S-concept" reels the Shimbindos? :
Bass Pro reply :
Quote"The SR-Concept combines the new concept of Reliance with all aspects of the S-Concept:Smooth, Silent and Strong."
Oops!
I think that statement reflects the corporate vision from a different Japanese company. :
I agree!! Every Daiwa that I've owned has made some sort of noise. Shimano's are much smoother/quieter. However, I've really taking a liking to my Revo STX's.
guest reply :
There is a fundamental difference in the approach to high end reel design from Daiwa and Shimano.
Shimano goes for silent, silky smooth.
Daiwa goes for tight tolerences and prescision.
Of course that's not to say that Daiwa's areen't smooth or Shimano's aren't refined, but to use an automotive analogy it would go something like this.
Shimano = Cadillac. Very smooth ride. the car floats over the road.
Daiwa = BMW. Taut, responsive, you feel the road but it communicates rather than intrudes.
Redlinerobert reply :
Right on Avid. I'll take a BMW over a Cadillac anyday.
HPBB reply :
right on Avid
and also The_Natural, has it right on the $$. I have a few shimano's and TD and my TD veinto's have a better feel than My chronarch 100MG's. Don't get me wrong my MG's are great, and I will not be getting rid of them, but the new TD veinto's are so flawless. there is no play at all. and no sound
guest reply :
I think this is all personal preference. I received my Daiwa yesterday and was a little dissappointed with the smoothness of the reel. I do like the weight and will try it out this season. I personally like the Chronarch MGs and then my 100D's. I have A Scopion 1000 that I am not overally impressed with as I am spoiled with those Chronarchs. I bought my wife a couple of Revos and love them. I bought a Fuego and felt a Zebco 33 was smoother. To each their own.
lubina reply :
Agree.....right on Avid.
I just got my TD-Z yesterday, and I think Raul is right and they have been out for a while, mine was bone dry but with a little bit of good oil, back to honoring its reputation. Sorry I didn't order 2 of them.
Fishing Doug reply :
got my 3 105's today and noticed the same thing....but i know the solution-REELMECH! ;D ;D One of my 100M's I purchased last year was a little 'rough' but after a trip to Kansas, smooth as butter.
the 2 that I took out of the package seems a little 'dry', but like has already been said, these could have been produced a few years ago.
Raul reply :
Just to bring to some of you a little bit of perspective, I know, when you purchase a NIB you immediately assume the reel is fresh, don 't know why you assume such thing but that 's the way most people think so let 's take it as a given fact.
For how long the Sol has been in the market ? a couple of years, yup only a couple of years so the degree of freshness has to be more than on a discontnued reel which the manufacturer hasn 't assembled for at least a year before it was discontinued, japanese dealeres removed from their pages the TDZ long before american dealers did.
Returning to the point, the Sol has been in the market for a couple of years, most asume the reel is fresh which is anything but true. A friend of mine recently purchased a NIB Sol, he got the reel and told me as a complain that the spool didn 't rotate forever when spinned and the reel felt rough, why he told me this ? because I talked him in to purchasing that reel, in other words he was blaming me for purchasing a bad reel ...... hell, I didn 't assemble the reel, did I ? ok I told him that most probably the reel was not fresh out of the assembly line and that all it needed was some lubing, bring me the reel and I 'll do it ..... brought the reel with him I disassembled it, the grease looked fine but one thing is looking fine and another is being fine, I cleaned the parts and greased them, oiled the bearings, reassembled the reel and spooled in line.
The next week we went fishing and then he complained he was getting backlashes every other cast because the spool rotated too fast and he couldn 't control the beast. :
bighed reply :
Got my two today. One spins smooth and quiet. The other is noisy. After a closer look I found that the chrome piece in front of the level wind is cracked. The dilemma is do I return a reel I'd like to keep for a cash refund since they probably don't have anymore in stock or pay to get a brand new reel fixed out of my own pocket. big
Raul reply :
QuoteGot my two today. One spins smooth and quiet. The other is noisy. After a closer look I found that the chrome piece in front of the level wind is cracked. The dilemma is do I return a reel I'd like to keep for a cash refund since they probably don't have anymore in stock or pay to get a brand new reel fixed out of my own pocket. big
Send it back immediately and ask for a refund or a replacement, they still have some left.
bighed reply :
Just called and they are out of the TD-Z's. They gave me Diawa's number so I'll call and see if I can get a warrantee repair. big
roadwarrior reply :
Why would you trust a company to repair a brand new reel that they knew, or should have known, requires service before being used?
If you are going to keep the reel, send it to someone you can trust (ReelMech) and have it done right. You'll have the reel back within a week or two for an all-in cost of $20 or less and peace of mind. Regardless of the excuses they make, Daiwa has not met their obligation to deliver a fully operational, precision reel. In my book, that is
inexcusable.
guest reply :
bighead,
It's called the Front Plate #G01-1601. It is in fact chromed plastic, it could have cracked from rough handling when shipped or stored. If the box was damaged in the same area then probably rough handling during shipping, if no box damage then the part was probably bad when assembled.QuoteAfter a closer look I found that the chrome piece in front of the level wind is cracked.
I would be interested in what Daiwa® had to say..QuoteJust called and they are out of the TD-Z's. They gave me Diawa's number so I'll call and see if I can get a warrantee repair
Let us know....
Anyone that has purchased one of these reels and they are tight feeling with very little free spool, you will have to re-lube the spool support bearings and shims (palming plate side, spool shaft behind the engagement T, and cast control cap bearings, with one drop of quality reel oil. Those are the only bearings in the reel that influence the free spool, all other bearings are for crank smoothness and IAR.
Tight Lines!!!
guest reply :
Ok, here is the skinny straight from Daiwa's mouth.
The TD-Z's were only discontinued last year, there is an abundance of parts for us service guys, and, Daiwa is honoring the warranties cards for all of the Cabela's sold TD-Z reels.
Tight Lines All!!!
Captain Chaos II reply :
Mini Review Alert:
Uh....got my TD-Z 103P last night, fished with it this morning. 2 words....VERY impressed. It was a different experience for me as I've never had a very light, low profile reel of this quality. I had it matched up with my Loomis IMX MBR843. Very light weight combo, I'm real happy with it. Casting was superb, very good accuracy, one minor backlash and I hit a dock on that one, hit docks about 3 other times with no backlash, was pitching, flipping, all with no problems.
And for the "fish on" test.....My buddy was throwing a zoom brush hog, I had on a senko. A bass hit the hog but missed it, she saw mine cruising about 6 feet to the left and went after mine. Boom....a healthy 3 pounder. Things I noticed, the reel was dead silent during the fight. My buddy noticed that too. Drag was very smooth although since it was the first fish on it, had it set a bit too low. Clicked it about 2 times while the fish was on and much better. Love the micro click on the drag+cast control knob.
I'm just a bit excited and the best part is I get to keep on using it....sweet. 8-)
bighed reply :
Dropped off my damaged 105H at the local Daiwa service center. They acted like it would be no problem to warrantee the damage and relube it. We'll see in two weeks.
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