Cabela's Arachnid By Daiwa 2024
Sonik reply :
Well, I searched and didn't find any topics on this reel. Looks like a blue accented Tatula Type-R but with 12 bearings and $20 less. Still picks up 34 IPT, Magforce-Z, etc it looks like.
I'm a Lew's guy and went shopping a while back for something in the $125-175 range for a reel for a new flipping stick and saw the Arachnid for $179. I imagine Cabela's will put it on sale for $150 at some point.
I'm not one of the guys that gets into the guts of a reel and knows whether one is good or bad based off of what factory it came out of in China or Korea so I don't know where Cabela's cut corners on the reel. Any thoughts on this reel on its own merits and versus the standard Tatula lineup?
HoosierHawgs reply :
I own a Cabela's Tournament ZX (A Lexa Platform reel) They are made in Korea (Where your Lew's are made) It is smooth and palms well at 7.5 oz. I would not hesitate to buy an Arachnid. I'm guessing they don't charge quite as much because people see Daiwa as a 'Premium Brand' and so they are willing to pay more, while they don't see Cabela's as a 'Premium Brand' and so they don't want to pay as much, even if thy are the same.
Sonik reply :
I love the ZX rods. I wish I had bought those instead of the *** Blacks.
rippin-lips reply :
Why not just get a Daiwa online for $110-120?
fisherrw reply :
x2On 1/20/2015 at 1:38 AM, rippin-lips said:Why not just get a Daiwa online for $110-120?
lmbfisherman reply :
On 1/20/2015 at 12:44 AM, Sonik said:I love the ZX rods. I wish I had bought those instead of the *** Blacks.
First I heard this. ZX Rods made by Daiwa too?
Sonik reply :
So the question was about the reel on its own merits and againt the standard Tatula lineup including the Type-R.
pbizzle reply :
Yall are all asking why don't you buy a Daiwa, well this is a Daiwa, but made exclusively for Cabelas. The arachnid has Daiwa written across the side, and even the knobs have the Daiwa logo on them. To the OP, I'd really look into it. Compare it to a standard Tatula and a Type R, and see which model meets your needs the best. I'm sure they're all great reels.
MCS reply :
On 1/20/2015 at 2:33 AM, Sonik said:So the question was about the reel on its own merits and againt the standard Tatula lineup including the Type-R.
If your not worried about the color or look of the reel being the arachnid. Then I would look for a tatula or tatula type r as they can be for from 100-150 right now new in box by some retailers. check out reds gear.
fishballer06 reply :
From what I've read on other forums, it's the same reel as the Type R, with a different accent color, and it has an extra bearing in the knobs. Other than that, it's the same reel, but you won't see every dealer out there online being able to sell them at a $1 over cost.
rippin-lips reply :
On 1/20/2015 at 2:52 AM, pbizzle said:Yall are all asking why don't you buy a Daiwa, well this is a Daiwa, but made exclusively for Cabelas. The arachnid has Daiwa written across the side, and even the knobs have the Daiwa logo on them. To the OP, I'd really look into it. Compare it to a standard Tatula and a Type R, and see which model meets your needs the best. I'm sure they're all great reels.
Yes, we know that but he's talking about buying one at $179 when you can get a non Cabelas branded Tatula type R for $110-120. I would rather save myself $60-70.
fishballer06 reply :
I don't know. I heard that Cabelas logo makes every fish you catch grow a pound once you put it in the livewell.
HoosierHawgs reply :
Maybe we should verify that with Mike McClelland?? LolOn 1/20/2015 at 5:25 AM, fishballer06 said:I don't know. I heard that Cabelas logo makes every fish you catch grow a pound once you put it in the livewell.
Sonik reply :
It's the extra letters in the name in the logo. The sensitivity of the line and rod directly transfer that weight directly to the fish. Or something.
aavery2 reply :
On 1/20/2015 at 3:02 AM, fishballer06 said:From what I've read on other forums, it's the same reel as the Type R, with a different accent color, and it has an extra bearing in the knobs. Other than that, it's the same reel, but you won't see every dealer out there online being able to sell them at a $1 over cost.
Believe it also has bearings on the level wind, as it is a 12 bearing reel vs the Tatula and Tatula Type R at 8
aavery2 reply :
On 1/20/2015 at 3:02 AM, fishballer06 said:From what I've read on other forums, it's the same reel as the Type R, with a different accent color, and it has an extra bearing in the knobs. Other than that, it's the same reel, but you won't see every dealer out there online being able to sell them at a $1 over cost.
I am very good friends with some people that own and operate a local tackle shop in our area. Their cost on a regular Tatula is $68 dollars and they are not even in the upper tier for discounts.
ww2farmer reply :
I have always liked Cabela's house branded "Daiwa's" I have a couple of the current Prodigy's now. When this reel goes on sale, or I have gift cards, I'll give it a look.
Sonik reply :
On 1/20/2015 at 9:02 PM, ww2farmer said:I have always liked Cabela's house branded "Daiwa's" I have a couple of the current Prodigy's now. When this reel goes on sale, or I have gift cards, I'll give it a look.
I've looked at the current Prodigy. I thought about it for when it goes on sale. Do you know if it's Magforce or Magforce-Z? My catalogs say Z but the site doesn't.
ww2farmer reply :
On 1/21/2015 at 12:16 AM, Sonik said:I've looked at the current Prodigy. I thought about it for when it goes on sale. Do you know if it's Magforce or Magforce-Z? My catalogs say Z but the site doesn't.
Don't know, and don't care. Whatever it has works fine for me.
smalljaw67 reply :
I'm not sure how this one will feel different but it is lighter than the Tatula and has more bearings and truth be told, the specs look closer to the Zillion than the Tatula, maybe some elements of both in that reel. The one thing I can say is the older Cabelas reels made by Daiwa are great, I still have an all gray Prodigy that is almost exact to an Advantage and it works like it is new, excellent reel. The same can be said about the older Tournament ZX spinning reel, it is the same as a Daiwa Tierra spinning reel with the two biggest differences being the Tierra has 2 corrosion resistant ball bearings while the ZX has the same number without the corrosion resistant and the ZX uses a power "T" knob while the Tierra has a regular square septon knob but that is it. I got the Prodigy for $79 on close out and the ZX for $40 and that one I could cry, I wish I would have bought 4 or 5 of those, that spinning reel performs so well that I doubt I'll ever get another deal like that.
Tywithay reply :
It's 100% identical to the Tatula Type R, except for 2 bearings on the levelwind, 2 more bearings in the knobs, and it's anodized blue. It's nowhere near the zillion, aside from the frame.On 1/21/2015 at 8:46 PM, smalljaw67 said:I'm not sure how this one will feel different but it is lighter than the Tatula and has more bearings and truth be told, the specs look closer to the Zillion than the Tatula, maybe some elements of both in that reel. The one thing I can say is the older Cabelas reels made by Daiwa are great, I still have an all gray Prodigy that is almost exact to an Advantage and it works like it is new, excellent reel. The same can be said about the older Tournament ZX spinning reel, it is the same as a Daiwa Tierra spinning reel with the two biggest differences being the Tierra has 2 corrosion resistant ball bearings while the ZX has the same number without the corrosion resistant and the ZX uses a power "T" knob while the Tierra has a regular square septon knob but that is it. I got the Prodigy for $79 on close out and the ZX for $40 and that one I could cry, I wish I would have bought 4 or 5 of those, that spinning reel performs so well that I doubt I'll ever get another deal like that.
rippin-lips reply :
It weighs 7.6oz which is what the tatula type R weighs. There's really nothing zillion about it at all. It's a tatula with blue cc knob and spool. They've added 2 more bearings to the handle and the same for the worm gear to take the total count to 12. I've done the same with all mine and it ran me $1 for the 4 bearings and 15 minutes of my time.
pbizzle reply :
On 1/20/2015 at 4:11 AM, rippin-lips said:Yes, we know that but he's talking about buying one at $179 when you can get a non Cabelas branded Tatula type R for $110-120. I would rather save myself $60-70.
Nothing wrong with that. I nearly bought a regular Tatula the other day. It was just the way it was put made it sound like You were saying that it was a lesser quality reel than the Daiwa.
Jeff H reply :
On 1/21/2015 at 9:00 PM, Tywithay said:It's 100% identical to the Tatula Type R, except for 2 bearings on the levelwind, 2 more bearings in the knobs, and it's anodized blue. It's nowhere near the zillion, aside from the frame.
Are you saying the Type has a bearing in each knob from the factory? I don't have an R model but I thought the factory bearing count was the same on the Tatula and the Type R. I have a hard time believing they would spec 2 bearings in the level wind on this reel, but if the R already has 2 in the knobs to begin with I guess they'd have to. My bet would have been 4 in the knobs.
Tywithay reply :
On 1/22/2015 at 12:28 PM, Jeff H said:Are you saying the Type has a bearing in each knob from the factory? I don't have an R model but I thought the factory bearing count was the same on the Tatula and the Type R. I have a hard time believing they would spec 2 bearings in the level wind on this reel, but if the R already has 2 in the knobs to begin with I guess they'd have to. My bet would have been 4 in the knobs.
The Type R and the standard Tatula both come with one bearing and one bushing under the knob. That's why I said "2 MORE bearings in the knobs." They took out the bushings and replaced them with bearings. They also removed the bushings from the worm gear (levelwind) and replaced those with bearings. This is an upgrade that a lot of us with Tatula's have already done for ourselves; very simple to do.
South FLA reply :
I have the Type-R and got in through an Etailer for $130 delivered, for out of box smoothness, casting distance, and drag performance its pretty impressive, Zillion like, have yet to try the new Zillion TWS, I am sure its the cat's meow.
TorqueConverter reply :
Is it just me or is all this talk about bearings in knobs silly or am I missing out by not being able to free spool my knobs?
Tywithay reply :
Adding bearings just creates a slightly smoother sensation while cranking, compared to bushings; makes it a little more effortless. It's not necessarily about freespool. Some guys prefer to use heavier oil/grease to make more of a buttery smooth feel, others use low viscosity oil and let them fly. I prefer the lighter oil myself. It's not something I have to have, but it's cheap, and further adds to the refinement of the reel.On 1/22/2015 at 5:25 PM, TorqueConverter said:Is it just me or is all this talk about bearings in knobs silly or am I missing out by not being able to free spool my knobs?
TorqueConverter reply :
On 1/22/2015 at 5:31 PM, Tywithay said:Adding bearings just creates a slightly smoother sensation while cranking, compared to bushings; makes it a little more effortless. It's not necessarily about freespool. Some guys prefer to use heavier oil/grease to make more of a buttery smooth feel, others use low viscosity oil and let them fly. I prefer the lighter oil myself. It's not something I have to have, but it's cheap, and further adds to the refinement of the reel.
I'm a liar. I've got a used Nirto NT10HA for a muskey reel that someone down the line has added bearings to the knobs and oiled lightly. I can't stop free spooling the knobs on the d**n thing when get a hold of it. The smoothness it adds is imperceptible but It is nifty in a I-can-feespool-my-knobs-longer-than-my-spool kind of way.
Jeff H reply :
This is good, this Arachnid, but Cabela's has also gone back to Daiwa for their Tournament ZX spinning reels (2 or 3 years absent) AND for the first time their Pro Guide spinning reels are Daiwa too! I'll be getting one of the Tournament ZX spinners for sure. The old ones have been great!
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