Need Help With New Tube / Soft Plastics Rod 2024

fishguy613 reply :

Am going to be purchasing a new spinning rod, will be using it for tubes, soft plastics, etc

The rod im thinking of purchasing is a Dobyns Savvy SS 702SF

I have been using a mojo bass rod, looking for an upgrade. What is everyones thoughts on this rod for me?

Will also be upgrading my reel if anyone has recommentations

iabass8 reply :

i love dobyns rods but there are a whole heck of a lot of better options in that price range that have better sensitivity,

EvanT123 reply :

I have a 7'0 medium light avid with a 2500 stradic fj. Pretty sweet tube and grub setup

fishguy613 reply :

iabass8 like..? lol

fishguy613 reply :

should have mentioned im looking for light weight, sensitive, durable and sexy to look at

kschultz76 reply :

St Croix Avid, LTB, Elite or Xtreme in the 6'8" M/XF taper. Fantastic rod for a variety of plastics applications.

Delaware Valley Tackle reply :

If you like the Mojo you'll love an Avid.

kschultz76 reply :

Reel depends on your budget. I'm so far very happy with my Shimano Stradic FJ and my Stradic CI4+.

fishguy613 reply :

I dont mind the mojo bass but i feel it has low sensitivity personally and my medium seems pretty stiff, as i read more reviews many dislike the savvy series. i also dislike how my mojo was made in mexico lol

maybe i should look closer at an avid.. or spend a bit more and get a gloomis or something hm

iabass8 reply :

i like the savvy..for frog and spinnerbaits/swim jigs and thats about it. anything else i'd go champ extreme. in your price range there's phenix m1/recond 2, powel endurance (during black friday sales), kistler KLX (supposed to be a fantastic value for its price tag), and st. croix avid. i'd choose any of those rods before the savvy for bottom contact baits.

fishguy613 reply :

im going to have to hold an avid and do some more research, i definitely want something very sensitive for when i use tubes, which is alot.

fishguy613 reply :

which rod would be ideal for my needs within the Avid series?

kschultz76 reply :

I suggested the 6'8" M/XF. I think the model is avs68mxf. I have that taper in the Xtreme it's excellent for plastics like weightless Senkos, other finesse presentations. I've not used it for tubes but should handle them very well. You could also go with a 6'6" or 7' M/F.

fishguy613 reply :

I will check out the 6'8" MXF

Hi Salenity reply :

The Rage is a good rod in that price range

rmcguirk reply :

I have the 6'9" Avid ML XF. It is a great rod and a very good drop shot rod. Though it has served some double duty for soft plastics, I much prefer a MF or MXF for those applications. If I were you, I'd consider the Avid in the 6'8" MXF.

fishguy613 reply :

thanks everyone, im going to purchase some things today im going to hold and check out the avid 7'8 mxf see how she feels

lmbfisherman reply :

On 10/18/2013 at 6:13 AM, fishguy613 said:

Am going to be purchasing a new spinning rod, will be using it for tubes, soft plastics, etc

The rod im thinking of purchasing is a Dobyns Savvy SS 702SF

I have been using a mojo bass rod, looking for an upgrade. What is everyones thoughts on this rod for me?

Will also be upgrading my reel if anyone has recommentations

Check out the Fenwick Aetos line, I own the M/F 7'. very versatile stick and can be used for all of what you are asking. Plus they feel better imo than the Savvy and is a very sensitive rod. I'd compare them to at least a 200+ rod.

fishguy613 reply :

Thanks i will check out the Aetos series, i currently have a fenwick walleye casting rod and a smallmouth casting rod as well am looking to try something a bit different

motodmast reply :

if your looking to spend about the same price as a savvy, i would get a shimano crucial. there pretty dang sensitive and light weight. balance is ok, a tad bit tip heavy but not bad. but thats about the best rod you can get for $160

rockchalk06 reply :

On 10/19/2013 at 8:44 AM, motodmast said:
if your looking to spend about the same price as a savvy, i would get a shimano crucial. there pretty dang sensitive and light weight. balance is ok, a tad bit tip heavy but not bad. but thats about the best rod you can get for $160

I agree. I don't think for the 160 mark (new) your going to find a better built more sensitive rod. I'm not a fan of the grip, but it has got to be the most durable thing I've ever fished next to an ugly stick. The fully exposed reel seat and braid will bring out the most in sensitivity in it. I got the XF and its just a tad much for me. I think the fast would be better suited for bottom contact baits.

lmbfisherman reply :

I'll third the motion for a Crucial if you want to try a different rod brand. However, I still prefer my Aetos over the Crucial. Reason being it balances better, fishes better and a tad more sensitive. I own 2 Crucials though, not knocking them I like them too. Just think in that price range the Aetos is a winner in my book.

skeletor6 reply :

Discussed this option with many with well informed individuals. With the #1 factor being performance, what I was told was that AVS68MXF < CUSX68M < GLXBSR852 & GLX 852s

This is not first hand information.

Notes on the 702sf. If it is anything like the Dobyns Extreme version as far as power, it will be a little whimpy for the job. The 742sf seems to be the choice for said applications.

fishguy613 reply :

are you saying the avid is lesser than those rods mentioned?

also the avid 6'8" m/xf is exactly the mojo bass model i use currently, how much better is the avids sensitivity and performance than the mojo bass?

skeletor6 reply :

On 10/20/2013 at 12:49 PM, fishguy613 said:

are you saying the avid is lesser than those rods mentioned?

also the avid 6'8" m/xf is exactly the mojo bass model i use currently, how much better is the avids sensitivity and performance than the mojo bass?

Remember, I have not personally fished these rods. It is just a question that I have researched and was told by someone who I highly trust who owns/has owned every rod I mentioned. I was told it was very close between the avid and cumara, the cumara being slightly faster and slightly more sensitive.

From a personal experience, just handling the rods, I would imagine there is a significant increase in performance going from a mojo to an avid. Haven't fished them, so pure speculation. I want to make that clear. There are many co-owners of avids and mojos on this site who can shed light on that much better.

rockchalk06 reply :

On 10/20/2013 at 12:49 PM, fishguy613 said:

are you saying the avid is lesser than those rods mentioned?

also the avid 6'8" m/xf is exactly the mojo bass model i use currently, how much better is the avids sensitivity and performance than the mojo bass?

I have both. I can tell you the mojo is a great rod, but nothing compared to the Avid. The Avid's balance point is different and has none of the tip heaviness that the mojo has. The Avid has a better blank and better guides.

Next to a Cumara and GLX, I would say the Avid would be the lesser of the rods. Not by a huge amount though. Keep in mind, the Avids price point is 190 where as the Cumara is 250 and the GLX is around 400 bucks. 3 completely different worlds here.

skeletor6 reply :

On 10/20/2013 at 3:54 PM, rockchalk06 said:

I have both. I can tell you the mojo is a great rod, but nothing compared to the Avid. The Avid's balance point is different and has none of the tip heaviness that the mojo has. The Avid has a better blank and better guides.

Next to a Cumara and GLX, I would say the Avid would be the lesser of the rods. Not by a huge amount though. Keep in mind, the Avids price point is 190 where as the Cumara is 250 and the GLX is around 400 bucks. 3 completely different worlds here.

In my example, I was talking about the CUSX68M....the Gen 1 cumara. Those were roughly $230 retail at one point. Is your comparison in regards to the new model Cumara's, or the Gen 1's? Interested to see how this comparison shakes out.

Also, OP the way to go here is used. I've seen both Gen 1 Cumara's and the AVS68MXF used for $140 or less. Probably the best price:performance you will get. Both seem to get great reviews all around. The GLX series I mentioned was if you wanted to step up. If you can find one, used GLX 852BSR's are in the $200-$250 range.

rockchalk06 reply :

On 10/20/2013 at 4:10 PM, skeletor6 said:

In my example, I was talking about the CUSX68M....the Gen 1 cumara. Those were roughly $230 retail at one point. Is your comparison in regards to the new model Cumara's, or the Gen 1's? Interested to see how this comparison shakes out.

Also, OP the way to go here is used. I've seen both Gen 1 Cumara's and the AVS68MXF used for $140 or less. Probably the best price:performance you will get. Both seem to get great reviews all around. The GLX series I mentioned was if you wanted to step up. If you can find one, used GLX 852BSR's are in the $200-$250 range.

The new ones. I've never seen or held the previous models so I really can't comment on them.

fishguy613 reply :

the mojo bass being tip heavy is one my biggest annoyances with the rod

ive read hundreds of reviews on the avid series so im going to have to try one for myself

lmbfisherman reply :

On 10/22/2013 at 3:35 AM, fishguy613 said:

the mojo bass being tip heavy is one my biggest annoyances with the rod

ive read hundreds of reviews on the avid series so im going to have to try one for myself

You won't be disappointed, Avid is a great rod. My only Avid left is a 6'6" M/F and it is by far my favorite jerk bait, top water and bladed bait rod. I never owned the XF version, I'm sure it will be a good plastics rod as the Avid is good sensitivity.

rockchalk06 reply :

On 10/22/2013 at 9:08 AM, lmbfisherman said:
You won't be disappointed, Avid is a great rod. My only Avid left is a 6'6" M/F and it is by far my favorite jerk bait, top water and bladed bait rod. I never owned the XF version, I'm sure it will be a good plastics rod as the Avid is good sensitivity.

I've got the same rod coming any day now. Its going to be my jerkbait rod as well.

lmbfisherman reply :

On 10/22/2013 at 11:52 AM, rockchalk06 said:
I've got the same rod coming any day now. Its going to be my jerkbait rod as well.

Yeah definitely my favorite rod for it, not sure what it is..it just feels natural and the length and power/action just seems perfect for it.

fishguy613 reply :

Didn't want to create a new thread for this but, which rod would be better for 1/4oz tubes, plastics

St Croix avid 6'8" Medium / Extra fast

St Croix avid 7'0" Medium / Fast

kschultz76 reply :

On 10/30/2013 at 8:01 AM, fishguy613 said:
St Croix avid 6'8" Medium / Extra fast

This

fishguy613 reply :

the only reason I asked is I noticed within their Mojo Bass line, their "tubes n grubs" rod is the 7'0'' M/F so I was just wondering if this would be the better setup for the application. will be making the purchase soon

kschultz76 reply :

Either will work. Look at the descriptions on St Croix's website for the LTB series, the Avids will fish very similarly. I have a 6'6" M/F Avid and a 6'8" M/XF Xtreme. I like them both but prefer the M/XF for lighter plastics, loads and casts beautifully, accurately, and easy to impart subtle movement.

Mike2841 reply :

I have an avid 68mxf and I use it for weightless senkos, flukes, and I've used with with 1/8 oz jig head and tube. It's a great rod, very sensitive and casts these light baits very easily.

fishguy613 reply :

I currently own a 6'8'' medium/xf mojo bass "wacky style" rod so I think I will get the Avid 7'0'' medium/fast for use with stuff 1/4-5/8 and keep using the mojo bass rod for weightless and close to weightless stuff ie 1/8, it does load pretty well casting such weights even though its under its rating. is that smart or no lol

Also, as kschultz76 suggested, I took a gander at the LTB rods and within that series the ideal rod would be the 7'1'' medium / fast, it is identical in specs to the Avid i am considering except it is just 1 inch shorter.

kschultz76 reply :

Since you've already got that taper in the Mojo then I'd agree you should go for the M/F in the Avid to add that versatility. Before I got the Xtreme on close out when St Croix redesigned them I used the Avid for everything. Just fished the Avid a bit more heavily then usual because I loaned the Xteme to my Dad. The sensitivity in the Avid once again blew me away when compared to my Xtreme considering the price difference.

fishguy613 reply :

im sure the avid with be much more sensitive and i hope better balanced than my mojo. I want to use the avid for tubes as i said and also i haven't even done any texas rigging with weights, also shakey heads i would like to try

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