Looking to buy my first casting set-ups... Seems like now is the time: Fuego/Tatula deals 2025

Nattyboh74 reply :

With all of the Diawa deals going on now and in short lived order, I think I should jump now. Is there a reason to get the Fuego CT over the Tatula CT? Can someone give me the quick, down and dirty on them? Also, assuming the cheapest place to buy them is online?

Being these are my first setups, would two get me by for now? That is two casting setups? I already have three spinning setups.

Is there one or two codes to be used on ebay ( Its the cheapest place, right? ) I have seen many threads on the deals and I cannot remember, and now Im loosing it trying to locate that thread...

Oh also assuming, I should just go 8.1:1 and slow down when needed or go middle of the road at 7.3:1 (I think those ratios are correct... )

Thanks!!

Dangerfield reply :

Tatula has 2 more bearings, one in each knob and it has the T-Wing system (line guide). Shiny finish.

Fuego same chassis as the Tatula (aluminum), and has a regular circle line guide. Matte finish.

Ninja edit: I own both, there's little to no difference between the 2. My next purchase would be a Fuego and upgrade the bearings in the knobs or swap the handle out for a Daiwa Winn or Lew's Winn.

Nattyboh74 reply :

Interesting... I think I came across a thread from you a little bit ago under the same conundrum as me, right?

Dangerfield reply :

On 5/25/2018 at 11:49 PM, Nattyboh74 said:

Interesting... I think I came across a thread from you a little bit ago under the same conundrum as me, right?

yup, but now I've been on the water with both for at least 15 hours

Nattyboh74 reply :

On 5/25/2018 at 11:51 PM, Dangerfield said:

yup, but now I've been on the water with both for at least 15 hours

Nice, so do you think its worth going Tatula against the Fuego?

And I want to jump on this now, but stuck in two places...

Do I get one or two casting setups? Seems like I could do ALL with a MH for an average guy like me. Id like to throw pretty much anything on it if possible while keeping down on rods/equipment.

and

Do I go RH and LH?....

Dangerfield reply :

On 5/25/2018 at 11:53 PM, Nattyboh74 said:

Nice, so do you think its worth going Tatula against the Fuego?

And I want to jump on this now, but stuck in two places...

Do I get one or two casting setups? Seems like I could do ALL with a MH for an average guy like me. Id like to throw pretty much anything on it if possible while keeping down on rods/equipment.

and

Do I go RH and LH?....

I like them both, if money isn't an issue I'd go for the Tatula. The extra bearings instead of bushings make the reel smoother than the Fuego. It's not like the Fuego is a dog without them tho. On 2nd thought, if money isn't an issue, say yes to the bait moneky and buy 2 Fuegos, 6.3.1 and 8.1.1.

Without knowing what tackle you use, it makes selecting a rig a little challenging. I've got 2 right now, one is a wet noodle for crank/jerk type baits (medium/moderate) and the other covers my jigs/swimbaits/topwater(heavy/fast). Check my sig.

You could take the best of both worlds and go with a MH/fast action rod. Pair a 6.3.1 reel and you've got a great all around set up. Disclaimer - I'm no pro, I fish a boat, I've been at it for 3 years, but I put in hefty fishing hours over the wknds. Fish dusk (4 hours) and dawn (3 hours) almost all weekend.

Nattyboh74 reply :

True. I just recently got back into fishing. My spinning setups are Avid-Xs with Presidents. Both Fast and one is M and MH. I fish plastics, jigs, cranks whatever. Thats why I want to push more onto casting for the heavier stuff I guess? Or maybe just to learn something new ,and spend some money lol.

I plan on buying two just because of the deals today, but then I also need to buy two rods as well, so thats more money spent too.

I dont know if I plan on running braid in them due to birds nesting, so I'll run mono for sure...

Dangerfield reply :

What do you mean by heavier stuff? Like Jackall Gantarel or Hudd 68Special? Or a-rigs? Or punching/flipping heavy cover?

I'm a braid to leader guy, because I don't have many set ups and I have confidence in the approach.

new2BC4bass reply :

If you hold the rod with your finger under the line in front of the reel, then you won't want the Tatula...or any reel with the TWS. There is a thread on another forum about it. If you use a leader long enough to reel the splice onto the spool, you may not want the TWS. Some people just don't like the TWS. I use both with no problems, but I don't put a finger under the line. Nor do I use long leaders.

A long time repair mechanic hates the TWS so he tried a Fuego CT. Did some work on it and says it is a great reel.

I have found the Fuego CT for just under $56 without any promo code. You have to keep an eye on the auction site. I think the lowest I've een the Tatula CT is $95, but I haven't been keeping a close eye on its price as I don't need any more reels.

Nattyboh74 reply :

On 5/26/2018 at 12:15 AM, new2BC4bass said:

If you hold the rod with your finger under the line in front of the reel, then you won't want the Tatula...or any reel with the TWS. There is a thread on another forum about it. If you use a leader long enough to reel the splice onto the spool, you may not want the TWS. Some people just don't like the TWS. I use both with no problems, but I don't put a finger under the line. Nor do I use long leaders.

A long time repair mechanic hates the TWS so he tried a Fuego CT. Did some work on it and says it is a great reel.

I have found the Fuego CT for just under $56 without any promo code. You have to keep an eye on the auction site. I think the lowest I've een the Tatula CT is $95, but I haven't been keeping a close eye on its price as I don't need any more reels.

Thanks. I have seen people say get the Fuego and upgrade the bearings, but I cannot find anything on that.

I did see people talk about the TWS and leaders.... I dont think Thats going to be an issue as I dont plan on running a leader anytime soon since the fear of birds nesting braid is a big money loss...

On 5/26/2018 at 12:15 AM, Dangerfield said:

What do you mean by heavier stuff? Like Jackall Gantarel or Hudd 68Special? Or a-rigs? Or punching/flipping heavy cover?

I'm a braid to leader guy, because I don't have many set ups and I have confidence in the approach.

Im thinking heavy cover stuff... I may just get one in M and MH ( rod wise ) and just duplicate the spinning rods... Unles you think it might be better to spread it more out and get a L and MH setup for casting. Although I dont see much use for a L setup for bass, as most lures are over the rods weight, no? Doesnt seem that it would get much use.

Nattyboh74 reply :

I think I want to go left handed on the reel, so with that being said, is this the tatula?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Daiwa-Tatula-CT-100HSL-7-3-1-Left-Hand-Baitcast-Fishing-Reel-TACT100HSL/302157027658?epid=1192960810&hash=item4659f6594a:g:jWAAAOSwIrlaRAX7

they dont come in 8.1 so Id have to settle for the 7.3

LCG reply :

I started using a baitcaster last year. I just purchased a Daiwa Fuego CT in 8.1:1 left hand to pair with my St Croix Avid X 6'6 Mh-f casting rod. No regrets at all.

I fish from the bank and wanted a shorter rod for pitching jigs, Texas rigs, and frogging. High speed reel to get them out of cover and to shore fast. Left hand retrieve just feels more natural to me. Personal choice.

I think a MH-F casting rod in your desired length would suit you best. Combined with a medium powered spinning rod you have a lot of techniques covered.

Nattyboh74 reply :

On 5/26/2018 at 1:09 AM, Luke G. said:

I started using a baitcaster last year. I just purchased a Daiwa Fuego CT in 8.1:1 left hand to pair with my St Croix Avid X 6'6 Mh-f casting rod. No regrets at all.

I fish from the bank and wanted a shorter rod for pitching jigs, Texas rigs, and frogging. High speed reel to get them out of cover and to shore fast. Left hand retrieve just feels more natural to me. Personal choice.

I think a MH-F casting rod in your desired length would suit you best. Combined with a medium powered spinning rod you have a lot of techniques covered.

Thanks. Thats what Im thinking too.

Beetlebz reply :

Alpha2omega on the ebays has the tatula for 89, comes out to 76 bucks with the pmemday code. I just grabbed one. I didn't check their price on the Fuego but It would be around 58 or 59 bucks with the code.

I haven't fished the tatula yet but I've fished the tatula SV and the fuego a ton this spring. Between the two they both feel fantastic in the hand, and important to me is that they feel very similar in the hand. My only gripe... and it super minor... is that the thumb bar on the Fuego looks and feels cheap, but it functions flawlessly. Im willing to bet under the chrome paint its the exact same part as the tatula. Plus thumb bars are usually stupid cheap to replace anyway.

If the extra 20 bucks is a big deal or if you're worried about the t-wing (mine has given me no reason to be suspicious of it) the Fuego is a fantastic choice. If you got the 20 bucks to burn and the extra 18 centimeters casting distance that the t-wing gives is worth it, the tatula is also a fantastic choice. I've said it a bunch in posts lately, there's no wrong choice here! ????

Nattyboh74 reply :

On 5/26/2018 at 2:34 AM, Beetlebz said:

Alpha2omega on the ebays has the tatula for 89, comes out to 76 bucks with the pmemday code. I just grabbed one. I didn't check their price on the Fuego but It would be around 58 or 59 bucks with the code.

I haven't fished the tatula yet but I've fished the tatula SV and the fuego a ton this spring. Between the two they both feel fantastic in the hand, and important to me is that they feel very similar in the hand. My only gripe... and it super minor... is that the thumb bar on the Fuego looks and feels cheap, but it functions flawlessly. Im willing to bet under the chrome paint its the exact same part as the tatula. Plus thumb bars are usually stupid cheap to replace anyway.

If the extra 20 bucks is a big deal or if you're worried about the t-wing (mine has given me no reason to be suspicious of it) the Fuego is a fantastic choice. If you got the 20 bucks to burn and the extra 18 centimeters casting distance that the t-wing gives is worth it, the tatula is also a fantastic choice. I've said it a bunch in posts lately, there's no wrong choice here! ????

Thanks. I think I'll go Tatula. Any idea if they can. Be used on Striped Bass / salt water kayak trolling?

I may get some for that too...

I really want them for bass, but if they can be used for Salt, it's an even better deal.

What what ratios? Should I do moiddle of the road or go high speed and slow down as needed?

Beetlebz reply :

I use 7:1 and 8:1 and just slow down when I need to. Torque hasn't been an issue. I even throw chatterbaits and mag squarebills on an 8:1 fuego... no issues.

As for salt, I honestly don't know how they are sealed, if at all. My knee jerk reaction would be that they should be fine as long as you rinse well afterwords and have them serviced every year... but I just don't have any first hand experience. When I fish brackish I have an older kastking stealth so I don't have to worry about it.

Nattyboh74 reply :

On 5/26/2018 at 4:15 AM, Beetlebz said:

I use 7:1 and 8:1 and just slow down when I need to. Torque hasn't been an issue. I even throw chatterbaits and mag squarebills on an 8:1 fuego... no issues.

As for salt, I honestly don't know how they are sealed, if at all. My knee jerk reaction would be that they should be fine as long as you rinse well afterwords and have them serviced every year... but I just don't have any first hand experience. When I fish brackish I have an older kastking stealth so I don't have to worry about it.

Ok cool.

I'd assume they are strong enough for striped bass?

Beetlebz reply :

I've jumped up on my kayak and did a full jet li super full half twist ninja roundhouse hook set on a teener double digit log. Reel is still good to go lol

My only concern would be the drag material, I don't know what it is on the baitcasters. I know the Fuego spinning reel uses felt, daiwa isn't very forthcoming on their website about these things. If it's felt on the baitcasters then I would get some upgraded carbon drag washers. I just don't know what's in there. Having your drag over heat and seize with a 30 lb striper peeling line is a sure-fire way to break off.

Nattyboh74 reply :

On 5/26/2018 at 4:33 AM, Beetlebz said:

I've jumped up on my kayak and did a full jet li super full half twist ninja roundhouse hook set on a teener double digit log. Reel is still good to go lol

My only concern would be the drag material, I don't know what it is on the baitcasters. I know the Fuego spinning reel uses felt, daiwa isn't very forthcoming on their website about these things. If it's felt on the baitcasters then I would get some upgraded carbon drag washers. I just don't know what's in there. Having your drag over heat and seize with a 30 lb striper peeling line is a sure-fire way to break off.

Lol. Yeah I think I'm going to scrap the saltwater and get two for bass use only.

Lead Head reply :

I haven't used a tatula (and likely never will since I'm a finger on the line guy) but I have logged some time with a fuego ct. The fuego is an absolutely solid reel and with so many people saying the only difference between it and a tatula is reel knob bearings and the t-wing system (that in my opinion just introduces unnecessary moving parts), my suggestion would be to grab 2 fuegos a 6.4.1 and a 8.1.1. That's just my opinion, I'm not a pro or a reel guru. All I can see is money saved that I can use on a rod.

And about braid... don't be afraid of it. It's my personal experience that it is much easier to pick out a backlash when it's braid, and you are less likely to damage braid when picking out a backlash. Going with cheap mono until you get a feel for baitcasters is a good plan, but don't be afraid of braid if it's what you really want to use for heavy cover.

Nattyboh74 reply :

On 5/26/2018 at 10:58 AM, Lead Head said:

I haven't used a tatula (and likely never will since I'm a finger on the line guy) but I have logged some time with a fuego ct. The fuego is an absolutely solid reel and with so many people saying the only difference between it and a tatula is reel knob bearings and the t-wing system (that in my opinion just introduces unnecessary moving parts), my suggestion would be to grab 2 fuegos a 6.4.1 and a 8.1.1. That's just my opinion, I'm not a pro or a reel guru. All I can see is money saved that I can use on a rod.

And about braid... don't be afraid of it. It's my personal experience that it is much easier to pick out a backlash when it's braid, and you are less likely to damage braid when picking out a backlash. Going with cheap mono until you get a feel for baitcasters is a good plan, but don't be afraid of braid if it's what you really want to use for heavy cover.

Thanks! Why do you recommend one of each speed? It seems like very common practice to just get whatever ratio and either speed up or slow down if needed? It would almost seem good to get the middle of the road ratio and do just that. Speed up or slow down if needed....

Beetlebz reply :

Some folks rely on lower gear ratios to keep them from over burning their baits. It's not a bad practice really... me personally I don't have room for a bunch of different speed reels on rods on my kayak or the funds to outfit them all. So I stick with 3 baitcasters and do my best not to burn them too fast.

For example a 5 or 6:1 for crank baits and most moving baits is ideal. An 8:1 can inadvertently burn the bait fast enough to turn off a less active fish. For a bottom contact rig you want a higher speed ratio to make up ground in case the bass grabs the bait and runs right at you.

Lead Head reply :

While it is totally possible to reel super slow with a crank or spinner you will find yourself going way, WAY too fast as soon as you aren't 100% focused on "reeling slow".

Nattyboh74 reply :

On 5/26/2018 at 1:20 PM, Beetlebz said:

Some folks rely on lower gear ratios to keep them from over burning their baits. It's not a bad practice really... me personally I don't have room for a bunch of different speed reels on rods on my kayak or the funds to outfit them all. So I stick with 3 baitcasters and do my best not to burn them too fast.

For example a 5 or 6:1 for crank baits and most moving baits is ideal. An 8:1 can burn the bait fast enough to turn off a less active fish. For a bottom contact rig you want a higher speed ratio to make up ground in case the bass grabs the bait and runs right at you.

So maybe a 6.3 for cranks and spinners/buzz/jerks etc and 7.3 for worms t rigged, wacky whatever?

Lead Head reply :

That would be the most comfortable way for me to do it... ymmv

RPreeb reply :

On 5/25/2018 at 11:53 PM, Nattyboh74 said:

Nice, so do you think its worth going Tatula against the Fuego?

And I want to jump on this now, but stuck in two places...

Do I get one or two casting setups? Seems like I could do ALL with a MH for an average guy like me. Id like to throw pretty much anything on it if possible while keeping down on rods/equipment.

and

Do I go RH and LH?....

I have 2 Tatula CT 100's, one 8.1:1 and one 6.3:1. The first is on a 6' Ugly Stik and has 12# Suffix mono. The second is on a 7' St. Croix Premier, and has 12# Yo-Zuri hybrid. I love the reel. I have no opinion about the benefits of the t-wing, or lack thereof, since I have nothing for comparison. All I know is that the first reel i bought worked well for me, so it was easy to decide to just get the same thing in a lower ratio when I got the new one this spring.

I freely admit that my experience is quite limited, and most of what I know I've learned right here at Bass Resource.

Nattyboh74 reply :

On 5/26/2018 at 11:45 PM, RPreeb said:

I have 2 Tatula CT 100's, one 8.1:1 and one 6.3:1. The first is on a 6' Ugly Stik and has 12# Suffix mono. The second is on a 7' St. Croix Premier, and has 12# Yo-Zuri hybrid. I love the reel. I have no opinion about the benefits of the t-wing, or lack thereof, since I have nothing for comparison. All I know is that the first reel i bought worked well for me, so it was easy to decide to just get the same thing in a lower ratio when I got the new one this spring.

I freely admit that my experience is quite limited, and most of what I know I've learned right here at Bass Resource.

Thanks.

I ended up with two Tatula CTs in 7.3 and 6.3

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Looking to buy my first casting set-ups... Seems like now is the time: Fuego/Tatula deals 2025

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