Fast or mod fast for spinnerbaits? 2024
WRangler506 reply :
I have an aetos casting 7mf that is a more stout feel and slower action than my avid x casting 7mf. Would this make the aetos a good spinnerbait rod? The action feels similar to the mojo spinnerbait rod.
Would a dobyns 734c handle spinnerbait ok? I'm trying to pick between the 734c or keeping the aetos 7mf.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
I like a mh fast to drive the heavy hook home. A mod fast will work if stiff enough but the fast is no disadvantage. “Pulling the bait away from the fish” is a myth imo. If you’re getting short strikes something else is wrong.
5by3 reply :
734 is a great spinnerbait rod and more
long island basser reply :
On 2/25/2019 at 7:54 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:I like a mh fast to drive the heavy hook home. A mod fast will work if stiff enough but the fast is no disadvantage. “Pulling the bait away from the fish” is a myth imo. If you’re getting short strikes something else is wrong.
What he said.^
Jcj90 reply :
Always used a medium fast unless I am tossing baits large than 1/2oz which is rare for me. Also always use a trailer hook
jimmyjoe reply :
On 2/25/2019 at 7:54 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:“Pulling the bait away from the fish” is a myth imo. If you’re getting short strikes something else is wrong.
Yup. And IMO, that applies to all other subsurface lures, too. jj
p.s. Both of my spinnerbait rods have been MH/F.
dodgeguy reply :
Mh fast for me.
Bluebasser86 reply :
MH/F. I want a rod that can drive a big hook and move a big fish away from cover.
CroakHunter reply :
Medium heavy fast for me as well. Same thing I'd throw a jig or chatterbaits on
Jig Man reply :
I go up to my H rods for my 1/2 oz plus spinnerbaits. I'll use a MH for lighter weight ones. I use the same rods for them as I do my A rigs with the reels changed.
fishwizzard reply :
I started using a XH/R at the end of last fall for spinnerbaits and am really liking it. Plenty of power for hooksets and some forgiveness in keeing the pressue on.
That being said, I throw a spinnerbait on basicly every rod I own and so long as the weight/hook gauge is matched to the rod’s power/action, it’s basicly fine.
A-Jay reply :
I'll be the odd man out -
I prefer & use MHMF for spinnerbaits & vibrating jigs.
I will also add that I'm routinely presenting them in 'lighter' cover situations.
A-Jay
Allen Der reply :
On 2/25/2019 at 10:40 AM, fishwizzard said:I started using a XH/R at the end of last fall for spinnerbaits and am really liking it. Plenty of power for hooksets and some forgiveness in keeing the pressue on.
That being said, I throw a spinnerbait on basicly every rod I own and so long as the weight/hook gauge is matched to the rod’s power/action, it’s basicly fine.
what is the R in XH/R?
Glaucus reply :
Casting a country mile in open water: MF
Typically: F
If I had to pick 1, F.
fishwizzard reply :
On 2/25/2019 at 1:04 PM, Allen Der said:what is the R in XH/R?
R is “Regular” action, it’s a rating used by japanese rod companies. The two I have owned were slower then most “mod-fast” rods but faster then say a trout rod. Combined with a lot of power (the rod I use is rated 1/2-3oz) you get the benefit of solid hooksets but even a 1lb bass will pull hard enough to keep the rod loaded. I use the same rod for smaller glide baits and I managed to land a stocked rainbow that somehow managed to hook it’s self without ripping the hook out of it’s lip.
TotalNoob reply :
On 2/25/2019 at 2:19 PM, fishwizzard said:I use the same rod for smaller glide baits and I managed to land a stocked rainbow that somehow managed to hook it’s self without ripping the hook out of it’s lip.
????
Catt reply :
On 2/25/2019 at 2:19 PM, fishwizzard said:R is “Regular” action, it’s a rating used by japanese rod companies
Great! More confusion to the all ready jacked up rod rating system!
LionHeart reply :
A good medium heavy mod fast is a perfect spinner bait rod IMO. Stout enough to drive a hook, but limber enough to keep a fish pinned and casts spinner baits really well.
The 'R' thing to me (at least on Diawa Tatula rods) basically just means Fast. One of my favorite rods was a Tatula med heavy "Regular" and it was perfect for plastics. Too fast for what I like in a spinner bait rod but really good for bottom contact on mid to smaller hook sizes
YoTone reply :
thing i dont get is why people say that a glass rod is needed for a chatterbait but i dont hear that said for a spinnerbait. i know theyre not the same but theyre both basically a open hook bait, right?
LionHeart reply :
On 2/25/2019 at 10:13 PM, YoTone said:thing i dont get is why people say that a glass rod is needed for a chatterbait but i dont hear that said for a spinnerbait. i know theyre not the same but theyre both basically a open hook bait, right?
To me, same rod for both
CaptPete reply :
I regularly use a Dobyns 734c for 3/8 and 1/2oz spinnerbaits, in fact it's pretty much my dedicated spinnerbait rod, although I use it for chatter baits as well.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 2/25/2019 at 12:02 PM, A-Jay said:I'll be the odd man out -
I prefer & use MHMF for spinnerbaits & vibrating jigs.
I will also add that I'm routinely presenting them in 'lighter' cover situations.
A-Jay
What do you find to be the advantage of the mid fast action?
J Francho reply :
My spinnerbait rods are either MXF or MHXF, depending on how big the bait is.
A-Jay reply :
On 2/25/2019 at 11:33 PM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:What do you find to be the advantage of the mid fast action?
That's a fair question Mike ~
Specifically my stick of choice here is the Quantum KVD composite cranking rod - in the 7' & 7'-4' lengths both MH.
A little background regarding my personal over all blank preference - it revolves around 'The Bend'.
I like one. I will use an xtra-fast rod for top water & jerk baits - because they do excel there IMO - that's where their use ends in my arsenal. I even prefer a longer MHMF for jigs - although graphite rules here for me.
Additionally, I believe that there is a misconception out there carried on by anglers who have little to no experience using composite or even fiberglass blanks (And I'm not including you in this) that because the blank actually 'bends', that it is somehow also - not powerful enough. I do not find that to be the case at all. While there may be a perceived 'delay' in when the 'power' gets there, these sticks have plenty. But it comes from the last third of the blank, rather than starting at the very tip, and one has to get there first: meaning you have to load the rod up. I look at it like using an accelerator. If you want full power, you need to step on the gas.
All of this is what keeps me fishing these killer wands.
So back to spinnerbaits - I see this composite blank offering me a least two desirable characteristic.
The vast majority of my spinnerbait fishing is a long distance toss presentation - composite stick makes that task easier. By requiring less effort each cast, while getting plenty of distance from my rig, I am able to stay at it & on the water longer - First advantage.
Despite having a stout single hook, spinnerbaits (and vibrating jigs) design, with the heavy lead head & blade configuration, can & do get tossed away by a few spirited brown bass - a bent rod throughout the duration of the battle, especially boat side, helps keep me pinned up. Second Advantage.
Now I'm not saying that other materials / blanks do not provide the same deals, I just prefer the manner in which these sticks take care of business for me. They have accounted for several really respectable brown bass for me the past three seasons, including my PB. So whatever it is about them, they suit my style.
A-Jay
WRB reply :
To me a spinnerbait is a jig with blades with a heavy wire hook.
I have used tubular glass bass rods back in the 60's for spinnerbaits and every other bass lure because that is all we had and caught lots of bass. Also used my long 7' salt water popping rod I made for crankbaits in the early 70's for spinnerbaits to make longer cast and caught bass. You can use any rod that you can cast effectively for any bass lure, doesn't mean it's a good choice for that lure.
The OP question should he use Dobyns 734C rod? The answer is yes!
Tom
Heartland reply :
Single, thick hooks at the end of a long cast tend to work best for me on rods with faster actions and tips.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
On 2/26/2019 at 1:01 AM, A-Jay said:That's a fair question Mike ~
Specifically my stick of choice here is the Quantum KVD composite cranking rod - in the 7' & 7'-4' lengths both MH.
A little background regarding my personal over all blank preference - it revolves around 'The Bend'.
I like one. I will use an xtra-fast rod for top water & jerk baits - because they do excel there IMO - that's where their use ends in my arsenal. I even prefer a longer MHMF for jigs - although graphite rules here for me.
Additionally, I believe that there is a misconception out there carried on by anglers who have little to no experience using composite or even fiberglass blanks (And I'm not including you in this) that because the blank actually 'bends', that it is somehow also - not powerful enough. I do not find that to be the case at all. While there may be a perceived 'delay' in when the 'power' gets there, these sticks have plenty. But it comes from the last third of the blank, rather than starting at the very tip, and one has to get there first: meaning you have to load the rod up. I look at it like using an accelerator. If you want full power, you need to step on the gas.
All of this is what keeps me fishing these killer wands.
So back to spinnerbaits - I see this composite blank offering me a least two desirable characteristic.
The vast majority of my spinnerbait fishing is a long distance toss presentation - composite stick makes that task easier. By requiring less effort each cast, while getting plenty of distance from my rig, I am able to stay at it & on the water longer - First advantage.
Despite having a stout single hook, spinnerbaits (and vibrating jigs) design, with the heavy lead head & blade configuration, can & do get tossed away by a few spirited brown bass - a bent rod throughout the duration of the battle, especially boat side, helps keep me pinned up. Second Advantage.
Now I'm not saying that other materials / blanks do not provide the same deals, I just prefer the manner in which these sticks take care of business for me. They have accounted for several really respectable brown bass for me the past three seasons, including my PB. So whatever it is about them, they suit my style.
A-Jay
Your reasoning is sound and I see the logic in your preference. I knew this would be the case and wanted the rest to hear it. Thanks!
A-Jay reply :
On 2/26/2019 at 1:44 AM, Delaware Valley Tackle said:Your reasoning is sound and I see the logic in your preference. I knew this would be the case and wanted the rest to hear it. Thanks!
Thank you my friend ~
I appreciate the support.
However, all of my 'logic' simply reduces the viability of blaming my equipment when I loose a Big Tank !
And that only leaves the knucklehead with sad face holding the rod.
A-Jay
fishwizzard reply :
On 2/26/2019 at 1:01 AM, A-Jay said:
That’s a great picture of The Bend. I want that whenever I have anything bigger then a pound on the line.
Catt reply :
On 2/26/2019 at 1:01 AM, A-Jay said:
Additionally, I believe that there is a misconception out there carried on by anglers who have little to no experience using composite or even fiberglass blanks (And I'm not including you in this) that because the blank actually 'bends', that it is somehow also - not powerful enough. I do not find that to be the case at all. While there may be a perceived 'delay' in when the 'power' gets there, these sticks have plenty. But it comes from the last third of the blank, rather than starting at the very tip, and one has to get there first: meaning you have to load the rod up. I look at it like using an accelerator. If you want full power, you need to step on the gas.
All of this is what keeps me fishing these killer wands.
I know you're not looking at a new rod BUT the McCain Tommy Martin Signature Series Casting Rods are built with a proprietary blend of Hi-Performance graphite and S-glass.
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