Dropshot with Trilene knot? 2025
Largemouth21 reply :
I am hoping to start getting into fishing with artificials and one of the 'tactics' I am going to try is dropshotting, I would rather not learn the Polamar knot because it usually takes me a long time to learn knots. Can you tie a drop shot with the Trilene knot?
riverbasser reply :
You could with some special drop shot hooks. But have you ever seen a Palomar knot? Its really just and overhand knot like tying a shoe and is twice as strong as a trilene knot. Anyway here's the hook that will work
Bass_Fishing_Socal reply :
On 1/15/2017 at 9:59 AM, Largemouth21 said:I am hoping to start getting into fishing with artificials and one of the 'tactics' I am going to try is dropshotting, I would rather not learn the Polamar knot because it usually takes me a long time to learn knots. Can you tie a drop shot with the Trilene knot?
With trilene knot, I think the hook would lean to either side. Polamar knot is pretty easy to tie you just pratice at home a few time and you should be able to tie it on water.
also this is the knot I use all of the time if you wanna learn new knot pretty easy and alway come out as it should be.
all else fail just get VMC spinshot hook or the one post above.
Sam reply :
Largemouth, the Palomar knot, when tied properly on a drop shot rig, causes the hook to stand straight out, 90* from the line.
You want the hook standing straight out from the line.
Once you learn the Palomar knot it will be one of the major knots you will use. I use it on just about all techniques for plastics and hard baits.
Learn the knot and it will be your friend.
NOTE: Some pros say that the Palomar knot may not be the best knot to use in some situations. Do your homework and learn the pros and cons of this knot and then go out and master it.
lmbfisherman reply :
Paloma knot is the easiest knot in the fishing world.
Like river bass bass showed you, maybe using a specialized hook is the answer.
Largemouth21 reply :
On 1/15/2017 at 10:06 AM, riverbasser said:You could with some special drop shot hooks. But have you ever seen a Palomar knot? Its really just and overhand knot like tying a shoe and is twice as strong as a trilene knot. Anyway here's the hook that will work
I suppose I will just learn the polomar. I have all winter... 
thanks for researching those hooks though.
On 1/15/2017 at 12:23 PM, JustJames said:With trilene knot, I think the hook would lean to either side. Polamar knot is pretty easy to tie you just pratice at home a few time and you should be able to tie it on water.
also this is the knot I use all of the time if you wanna learn new knot pretty easy and alway come out as it should be.
all else fail just get VMC spinshot hook or the one post above.
Yep you are right, tried to tie it and hook would lean at very odd angle.
CTBassin860 reply :
The Palomar is super easy and quick to tie.NEVER had one break either.I do mine with two wraps. AKA the NanoFil knot.
Largemouth21 reply :
On 1/16/2017 at 10:23 AM, MassBassin508 said:The Palomar is super easy and quick to tie.NEVER had one break either.I do mine with two wraps. AKA the NanoFil knot.
I read somewhere that the polomar knot is only for braid and mono won't work right, is that true?
riverbasser reply :
On 1/16/2017 at 10:33 AM, Largemouth21 said:I read somewhere that the polomar knot is only for braid and mono won't work right, is that true?
Not true. Knot works with mono just fine. Only thing two watch out for is to make sure the line doesn't overlap itself on the hook. The top line will cut into the other.
CTBassin860 reply :
I've tied it on braid mono and flouro with no issues
Largemouth21 reply :
On 1/16/2017 at 10:39 AM, riverbasser said:Not true. Knot works with mono just fine. Only thing two watch out for is to make sure the line doesn't overlap itself on the hook. The top line will cut into the other.
What do you mean by that I am confused thanks for the reply.
riverbasser reply :
On 1/16/2017 at 11:07 AM, Largemouth21 said:What do you mean by that I am confused thanks for the reply.
Its something a member on here taught me. You wrap the line through the hook twice, when you cinch the knot tight make sure one is not on top of the other. This goes for basically all knots that wrap around the hook eye twice. They should sit side by side.
Largemouth21 reply :
On 1/16/2017 at 11:19 AM, riverbasser said:Its something a member on here taught me. You wrap the line through the hook twice, when you cinch the knot tight make sure one is not on top of the other. This goes for basically all knots that wrap around the hook eye twice. They should sit side by side.
Oh ok... Thanks I'm a little slow ? also that only applies for the double Polamar right? Salt Life did a test and the single Polamar was actually better for mono and the double was better for braid...
On 1/15/2017 at 6:33 PM, Sam said:Largemouth, the Palomar knot, when tied properly on a drop shot rig, causes the hook to stand straight out, 90* from the line.
You want the hook standing straight out from the line.
Once you learn the Palomar knot it will be one of the major knots you will use. I use it on just about all techniques for plastics and hard baits.
Learn the knot and it will be your friend.
NOTE: Some pros say that the Palomar knot may not be the best knot to use in some situations. Do your homework and learn the pros and cons of this knot and then go out and master it.
I researched an could not find anything except for people raving about how great this knot is. I will probably only use this knot for dropshots in all honesty. But anyway what are people saying it's not good for. What are the pros and cons, in other words. Thanks for the reply
Sam reply :
Check out YouTube and also check out this video on YouTube:
Check out the Forum's "search" option for Palomar Knot:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/search/
Read, read and read some more about the knot and then practice, practice, practice tying it.
Have fun!
fishwizzard reply :
On 1/15/2017 at 10:06 AM, riverbasser said:
Does anyone use these hooks? I have yet to even try drop shotting (despite owning hooks, weights, and lures), and I really like the idea if being able to pretie a bunch of weights to different lengths of line so I can swap out depending where on the river I am. Even better, i can start using the hundreds of assorted nuts that follow me home in my pockets from work as weights, to both save money and not litter lead everywhere.
riverbasser reply :
On 1/17/2017 at 5:55 AM, Bunnielab said:
Does anyone use these hooks? I have yet to even try drop shotting (despite owning hooks, weights, and lures), and I really like the idea if being able to pretie a bunch of weights to different lengths of line so I can swap out depending where on the river I am. Even better, i can start using the hundreds of assorted nuts that follow me home in my pockets from work as weights, to both save money and not litter lead everywhere.
I have some. I don't really drop shot that often but they work just fine. I got them to save me a little rigging time.
J Francho reply :
On 1/15/2017 at 9:59 AM, Largemouth21 said:I would rather not learn the Polamar knot because it usually takes me a long time to learn knots.
You want to learn this knot if you want to drop shot. Otherwise, skip the technique altogether. Always remember, if you're cinching the knot down by pulling the main line, you're doing it wrong. If your main line to the hook is crimped or curly, you did it wrong. This is VERY important with lighter lines, and finesse terminal rigs. Lear to tie a good Palomar knot, and you are way ahead of many other anglers.
fishwizzard reply :
On 1/17/2017 at 6:02 AM, riverbasser said:I have some. I don't really drop shot that often but they work just fine. I got them to save me a little rigging time.
Yea, I also like the idea of being able to use cheap mono as the drop line. I keep wanting to try them but never really remember to hunt some down.
TheRodFather reply :
I dislike the palomar knot for most situations because I end up having to clip/cut off so much tag line (I'm sure it's an issue with my technique, but never the less). I also find it a pain to loop the end around anything with trebles or a "long" bait.
That said, the drop shot requires a long tag end and the hook to "stand up", so I will tie it for that.
iceintheveins reply :
The Palomar knot with drop shotting is basically a must.
Largemouth21 reply :
On 1/17/2017 at 1:25 PM, iceintheveins said:The Palomar knot with drop shotting is basically a must.
Yeah i figured
I finally learned to tie it... It really wasnt as hard as I thought. Way easier than when I had to learn the Uni-Uni knot.
On 1/17/2017 at 6:03 AM, J Francho said:
You want to learn this knot if you want to drop shot. Otherwise, skip the technique altogether. Always remember, if you're cinching the knot down by pulling the main line, you're doing it wrong. If your main line to the hook is crimped or curly, you did it wrong. This is VERY important with lighter lines, and finesse terminal rigs. Lear to tie a good Palomar knot, and you are way ahead of many other anglers.
I went ahead and started learning the palomar. I use the single palomar because it's stronger than double palomar. FOR MONO! They found that an improved palomar was stronger for braid though. Read Salt Lifes article here -----> http://tiny.cc/bfanother sitey
On 1/17/2017 at 5:55 AM, Bunnielab said:
Does anyone use these hooks? I have yet to even try drop shotting (despite owning hooks, weights, and lures), and I really like the idea if being able to pretie a bunch of weights to different lengths of line so I can swap out depending where on the river I am. Even better, i can start using the hundreds of assorted nuts that follow me home in my pockets from work as weights, to both save money and not litter lead everywhere.
Never thought about using those as fishing weights before. Good luck that should save you some money
scaleface reply :
On 1/15/2017 at 10:06 AM, riverbasser said:You could with some special drop shot hooks. But have you ever seen a Palomar knot? Its really just and overhand knot like tying a shoe and is twice as strong as a trilene knot. Anyway here's the hook that will work
I would tie the palomar also but its not stronger than the trilene unless it has a 110 percent breaking strength . The trilene has been tested and its a 100 percent knot . With mono that is .
J Francho reply :
I wouldn't put too much faith in articles, videos, or any other tests of knot strength. One of my key points in my lectures is learning to tie knots well. My speaking partner Paul can't tie a Palomar worth a ham sandwich. I consistently get around 25-30% greater break strength than he does. Ask me tie tie his knot (some whack-o knot he made up) and he's back up to where my Palomar is.
Point...Some knots will be well tied, some not. (get it?)
To assume that one knot is better than the other because an article "proved" it could be a little naive, but it will give you a clue of what knot to learn. Personally, I can get away with only knowing two knots - Uni, Palomar. I have a friend who has several club records on Erie, and fishes a drop shot pretty well (I believe he has a 7+ lb. PB SMB), and he ONLY uses an Improved Clinch knot. Yes, with any line type on any bait. Never failed him. Go figure.
Anyway, a Palomar fits this rig perfectly, is easy to tie, and you need a long tag end anyway for it, so why not get good at it?
KDW96 reply :
On 1/17/2017 at 6:03 AM, J Francho said:
You want to learn this knot if you want to drop shot. Otherwise, skip the technique altogether. Always remember, if you're cinching the knot down by pulling the main line, you're doing it wrong. If your main line to the hook is crimped or curly, you did it wrong. This is VERY important with lighter lines, and finesse terminal rigs. Lear to tie a good Palomar knot, and you are way ahead of many other anglers.
Just keep practicing, and read the above over and over:)
riverbasser reply :
On 1/20/2017 at 9:35 PM, scaleface said:I would tie the palomar also but its not stronger than the trilene unless it has a 110 percent breaking strength . The trilene has been tested and its a 100 percent knot . With mono that is .
I was confusing the trilene knot with the old cinch knot
scaleface reply :
On 1/20/2017 at 9:48 PM, J Francho said:I wouldn't put too much faith in articles, videos, or any other tests of knot strength.
I think that is the best way to get an accurate gauge on knot strength , of course it has to be a well tied knot .
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