Daiwa Zillion 9.1 2024
Diggy reply :
The fastest Daiwa baitcaster ever
crankbank reply :
Very cool.... When are we gonna hit double digit ratios?
HoosierHawgs reply :
Holy cow! Why do we need double digits?
Darren. reply :
Make it stop! I can't handle the sheer
awesomeness of a 9.1:1 reel!!!
crankbank reply :
It just seems like that is the way they're heading... higher and higher...
Alonerankin2 reply :
How many ipt is it?
HoosierHawgs reply :
On 12/27/2014 at 10:52 AM, crankbank said:It just seems like that is the way they're heading... higher and higher...
This is true. I think 9.1 ought to be tue top. I wont buy anything faster than 8
On 12/27/2014 at 10:53 AM, Alonerankin2 said:How many ipt is it?
40"
GaterB reply :
Lawwwd have mercy...
DirtyDeuceGoose reply :
That green might compete with the recent purple Daiwa has released for accent colors.
zakisimo reply :
great reel thanks
new2BC4bass reply :
I like my 8.1 and would love to try the 9.1 Zillion.
Grantman83 reply :
40 inches is craaaaaaaaaaaaszy fast. I wonder what kind of torque you can get with that type of speed. Are we all gonna be cranking with 7.3 "slow" reels in the future lol.
WRB reply :
A few years ago I thought and believed a 6.3:1 was fast enough for any bass fishing presentation.
Now I fish with 8:1 reels for jig fishing and love them. Keep an open mind!
Tom
rippin-lips reply :
I saw this earlier. I'm liking the green a lot. The purple works well too. Hopefully all those parts will be available from Daiwa in the not so distant future. As for the 9:1 ratio. The 8:1:1 Tatula = 33.9" ipt and 7:1:1 Lews TP = 31" ipt. It's not a huge difference in ipt between the two ratios. Though 40" seems like I bit much but I see where it could help when flipping,pitching, and punching. Also burning a trap or spinnerbait.
Jeff H reply :
On 12/27/2014 at 11:23 AM, WRB said:A few years ago I thought and believed a 6.3:1 was fast enough for any bass fishing presentation.
Now I fish with 8:1 reels for jig fishing and love them. Keep an open mind!
Tom
I still think it is. I can still catch fish every time I go out, believe it or not.... and I don't have any 8:1 reels. 
Grantman83 reply :
So is it purple or green lol
rippin-lips reply :
On 12/27/2014 at 1:05 PM, Grantman83 said:So is it purple or green lol
Haha right. I'm wondering if the Jdm version is green and the Usdm is purple. Only assuming since one video is in Japanese and the other in English. I guess we will see at ICast.
WRB reply :
You catch you fish a high % of the time within 20' of where you lure first landed, on the surface or bottom or in between. The reels ratio/IPT (inch per turn) is only a factor at that distance, whatever that is.
The smaller the spool diameter the more the IPT is affected at distance, it' isn't linear.
Tom
Tywithay reply :
On 12/27/2014 at 1:10 PM, rippin-lips said:Haha right. I'm wondering if the Jdm version is green and the Usdm is purple. Only assuming since one video is in Japanese and the other in English. I guess we will see at ICast.
The US version is purple. There's going to be a limited amount for sale here pretty soon. You can pre-order one right now from the Tackle Trap. Should be in next week from what I understand. That purple one would look sweet on an Endurance.
FishTank reply :
A 40 ipt is overkill for bass, IMHO. Nice looking reel though.
Tywithay reply :
Anything over 30 is probably overkill, but it's still fun to buy fast new reels. I want the Zillion XXH for schooling stripers/wipers. I can fling a lure out there and if I don't hook up I can get it back out in the water before the fish disappear.On 12/28/2014 at 2:39 AM, FishTank said:A 40 ipt is overkill for bass, IMHO. Nice looking reel though.
HoosierHawgs reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 2:39 AM, FishTank said:A 40 ipt is overkill for bass, IMHO. Nice looking reel though.
Ditto... Granted it could be a great reel for jigging spoons or something like that. It is a sexy frame though, as are all of the new Daiwas IMO
A-Jay reply :
Wow ~
I guess it was only a matter of time before we hit the 40 inches per turn mark on a fresh water reel.
Won't be long - you only need one turn per cast . . . .
A-Jay
FishTank reply :
If there was a saltwater version, it would be killer for redfish.
IAY reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 3:17 AM, FishTank said:If there was a saltwater version, it would be killer for redfish.
Zillions are saltwater safe, so it is saltwater version.
WRB reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 3:17 AM, FishTank said:If there was a saltwater version, it would be killer for redfish.
Avet SX 2speed 36" & 21" IPT, 2-3/8 spool.
bass1980 reply :
Why would 40 IPT be over kill? Sure you won't need it for cranking but for techniques likes weightless senkos and Trig I would love it. Cast a senko, let it drop for a few seconds, jig it a bit, burn it back to me and repeat. I can search for fish a lot quicker this way. Plus when fishing for smallies they tend to make runs at you and this will definitely help out. Is it life and death not having it? Of course not but back then some people thought 6:1 was fast and when 7:1 came out the same skeptics said the same thing.
If these high gear reels don't lose too much torque then I'm all for it. Heck using my Metanium XG at 36 IPT I'm loving it. Longer handle and gear design, I don't feel like I'm losing any torque at all. That reel has some serious power for what it's offering.
Jaheff reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 5:03 AM, WRB said:Avet SX 2speed 36" & 21" IPT, 2-3/8 spool.
That's my 40# live bait rig.
Trey Harpel reply :
Purple US
Green Japan
I kinda like the Green much better and the reel is SICK!
HoosierHawgs reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 5:05 AM, bass1980 said:Why would 40 IPT be over kill? Sure you won't need it for cranking but for techniques likes weightless senkos and Trig I would love it. Cast a senko, let it drop for a few seconds, jig it a bit, burn it back to me and repeat. I can search for fish a lot quicker this way. Plus when fishing for smallies they tend to make runs at you and this will definitely help out. Is it life and death not having it? Of course not but back then some people thought 6:1 was fast and when 7:1 came out the same skeptics said the same thing.
If these high gear reels don't lose too much torque then I'm all for it. Heck using my Metanium XG at 36 IPT I'm loving it. Longer handle and gear design, I don't feel like I'm losing any torque at all. That reel has some serious power for what it's offering.
There's a point where you begin to overwork your lure. Also, even with things like t rig that the action isn't effected by the speed, you will be a less thorough fisherman. Many of us need help slowing ourselves down.
Jrob78 reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 5:14 AM, jakob1010 said:There's a point where you begin to overwork your lure. Also, even with things like t rig that the action isn't effected by the speed, you will be a less thorough fisherman. Many of us need help slowing ourselves down.
Speak for yourself. I would say you would be a more thorough and efficient fisherman because you could effectively cover more water with more casts in less time.
Senko lover reply :
I like reading old bass books, and they talk about 4:3:1 ratios. Wonder what the old timers would think about this.
rippin-lips reply :
You cover more water because you're fishing faster. In some situations that's all well and good but truth be told... Most people need to slow down and work a spot more thoroughly not faster. I think some if you might benefit from a reel with an ipt of 12-18" It has its place for certain things like I mentioned earlier but I think for most it'll be too much.
HoosierHawgs reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 5:20 AM, Senko lover said:I like reading old bass books, and they talk about 4:3:1 ratios. Wonder what the old timers would think about this.
I have a 4.9 and a 4.7. Tons of tourque. I love them for cranking or as big fish reels.
black94gt50 reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 5:14 AM, jakob1010 said:There's a point where you begin to overwork your lure. Also, even with things like t rig that the action isn't effected by the speed, you will be a less thorough fisherman. Many of us need help slowing ourselves down.
That's the users fault lol not the reel. I think faster reels like this are interesting, of course it's not something you will use to present every type of lure with. The option to reel faster can give you options of different presentation methods. Maybe something the fish haven't seen before.
bass1980 reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 5:14 AM, jakob1010 said:There's a point where you begin to overwork your lure. Also, even with things like t rig that the action isn't effected by the speed, you will be a less thorough fisherman. Many of us need help slowing ourselves down.
Who works a senko and Trig with the reel? You work it with your rod. The benefits of a fast IPT is getting the lure back to you to cast again.
WRB reply :
Read post #13On 12/28/2014 at 5:20 AM, Senko lover said:I like reading old bass books, and they talk about 4:3:1 ratios. Wonder what the old timers would think about this.
Tom
Montanaro reply :
This reel would be perfect for all the punching and pitching I do. Makes a big difference. I would, without a doubt, lose more fish with a 5 to 1 fishing those techniques.
Crappiebasser reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 5:20 AM, Senko lover said:I like reading old bass books, and they talk about 4:3:1 ratios. Wonder what the old timers would think about this.
I know age is relative but you don't have to be an "old timer" to remember 4.x:1 ratios. I still have original Bantams and a 3.8 Curado.
Cgrinder reply :
I would purchase and frog with such a reel.
Senko lover reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 8:56 AM, Crappiebasser said:I know age is relative but you don't have to be an "old timer" to remember 4.x:1 ratios. I still have original Bantams and a 3.8 Curado.
I was talking less about remembering them than about the fact that bassers back in "the early days" didn't know anything higher than a 6:4:1.
fishballer06 reply :
On 12/28/2014 at 8:56 AM, Crappiebasser said:I know age is relative but you don't have to be an "old timer" to remember 4.x:1 ratios. I still have original Bantams and a 3.8 Curado.
I've been trying to get my hands on one of those 3.8 Curado's. They're perfect for slow working spinners for walleye.
HoosierHawgs reply :
I'm really enjoying this conversation. Shows that there is a need for the whole spectrum of speeds from slow to hyper speed.
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