Crank Rod Necessary? 2024
Mikell reply :
Listen I know that there are alot of posts about which rod to get for crankin, BUT my question is, is it necessary to have one in my setup?
Ive got three combos.
7' MF LTB
7'3 MF ***
7"3 MH Duckett Ghost
If im wanting to do just some shallow to maybe medium cranking do I need to invest in a crank rod, or will one of those rods handle it?
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
The biggest advantage to "Cranking" rod is the slower action which helps keep fish hooked up with treble hook lures and gives the fish time to eat it good without yanking it away. Try what you have and see for yourself. If you lose a bunch look for a more suitable rod.
OkobojiEagle reply :
Employ a sweep set with the ***.
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Mikell reply :
what about powell diesel crank rod? any good?
.ghoti. reply :
To answer your initial question; no, you don't "need" an application specific crankbait rod. I have two of the same LTB rods you have, and they are the most versatile rods I own. Try it. You might like it. Try all of your rods for cranking. You just may find something you like.
roadwarrior reply :
On 4/10/2014 at 2:32 AM, .ghoti. said:Try all of your rods for cranking.
Then go buy a crankbait rod.
ww2farmer reply :
Needed ??? NO.......especially for shallow cranking, in fact, sometimes, depending on the cover, a cranking rod is counter productive. That being said, IMHO there are only two techniques in bass fishing where specialized gear is a must....Punching, and Deep cranking. Everything else can be done with M or MH powered, fast action rods.
Wbeadlescomb reply :
On 4/10/2014 at 1:02 AM, Mikell said:what about powell diesel crank rod? any good?
I've got several of them and it is an excellent rod for the money.
MarkH024 reply :
Toliet paper isn't necessary but it's the best application for the job. Do you want to have the best, or do you want to get by?
That's up for you to decide.
Missourifishin reply :
Necessary? No. I caught plenty of fish on crankbaits on a MH/F spinning rod when I was first starting out. But if you decide to expand your rod and reel arsenal to technique specific setups, you'll definitely want to get one, IMO.
Basshammer reply :
No, not necessary i use a 7 mhm and hardly ever miss any fish. I also have a 6.6 that is fine also.
A-Jay reply :
Unless you're already using it, go with a quality monofilament line instead of braid.
Should help you out.
A-Jay
ww2farmer reply :
I also noticed you have a St Croix LTB 7' M/F.....if that is the casting rod AKA "Teaser" and not he spinning version, that's about as "do-all" of a rod there is. I used mine for shallow, mid depth, and lipless cranks FOR YEARS and it was great.
motodmast reply :
i used my *** 7'3 M for squarebills, rattle traps, topwaters, and cranks that went down about 12ft. worked great, and didnt loose a fish on it. try it out!
Mikell reply :
On 4/10/2014 at 5:20 AM, ww2farmer said:I also noticed you have a St Croix LTB 7' M/F.....if that is the casting rod AKA "Teaser" and not he spinning version, that's about as "do-all" of a rod there is. I used mine for shallow, mid depth, and lipless cranks FOR YEARS and it was great.
it is the teaser model and yeah i was thinking it would do the job fine, most of my cranks only go about 6-10 and then alot of them only go to 0-4 depending on how they are fished
.ghoti. reply :
On 4/10/2014 at 5:20 AM, ww2farmer said:I also noticed you have a St Croix LTB 7' M/F.....if that is the casting rod AKA "Teaser" and not he spinning version, that's about as "do-all" of a rod there is. I used mine for shallow, mid depth, and lipless cranks FOR YEARS and it was great.
That's the most versatile rod I own. Enough so I bought a second.
Raul reply :
For over 30 years I fished cranks with a M fast rod, then one day I purchased a Mag TS Cranking rod, I have no complaints about the blank, I hated everything else so I end up selling it and back to M fast ( if it ain't broke why fix it ? ) , nowdays I still think about getting me another cranking stick, I feel that for 1/2 oz or less cranks you don't need a cranking stick, at half ounce the M power feels like you're in the limits the rod can handle so if you're going to purchase a cranking stick then I suggest you think about getting at least a MH, not needed but desirable.
iceintheveins reply :
On 4/10/2014 at 3:48 AM, MarkH024 said:Toliet paper isn't necessary but it's the best application for the job. Do you want to have the best, or do you want to get by?
That's up for you to decide.
Bingo. I love softer action rods for all treble hook baits and even spinnerbaits and buzzbaits.
Arv reply :
This. I personally like a mod. Action rod rod for almost all my treble hook lures, but there are other rods I will just as quickly put the same lures on.On 4/10/2014 at 3:37 AM, ww2farmer said:Needed ??? NO.......especially for shallow cranking, in fact, sometimes, depending on the cover, a cranking rod is counter productive. That being said, IMHO there are only two techniques in bass fishing where specialized gear is a must....Punching, and Deep cranking. Everything else can be done with M or MH powered, fast action rods.
boostr reply :
On 4/10/2014 at 3:48 AM, MarkH024 said:Toliet paper isn't necessary but it's the best application for the job. Do you want to have the best, or do you want to get by?
That's up for you to decide.
On 4/10/2014 at 2:11 PM, iceintheveins said:Bingo. I love softer action rods for all treble hook baits and even spinnerbaits and buzzbaits.
I do like a softer action toilet paper as well.
flyfisher reply :
I started throwing cranks on the standard MHF rods and was really enjoying the tecnique. I figured i woudl jump in and see if a lower ear ratio reel and a cranking specific stick would make a difference. I picked up a BPS PQ in 4.7:1 and a kistler helium cranking rod used and it made a big difference. I am fishing the same way i was before and catching more fish. I am convinced the rod is giving me more feedback on the crank and i am realizing more bites.....
WIGuide reply :
You don't have to have a cranking rod. You can definitely get by without one. One tip I give you if you are fishing cranks on a faster action is to lighten your drag. You'll keep a lot more fish buttoned up that way.
On 4/10/2014 at 4:42 AM, Basshammer said:No, not necessary i use a 7 mhm and hardly ever miss any fish. I also have a 6.6 that is fine also.
A moderate action rod is pretty much what defines a crankbait rod as a crankbait rod. Even though you may not think it's technique specific, you've got yourself a crankin stick there. haha
Mikell reply :
Thanks guys appreciate it!
Dave P reply :
On 4/10/2014 at 1:02 AM, Mikell said:what about powell diesel crank rod? any good?
Yes. If mine broke, I'd have another one in the mail tomorrow. It's made enough money for me that it's more than paid for itself several times over.
Alonerankin2 reply :
I used a 6'6" lews heavy made in 85 I threw 1/2 oz rattletraps all the time in Florida never lost a fish.. I flipped with it.. Pitched with it...
Shallow squarebills is shorter target work so you can use a medium heavy fast just fine.
If you become a crankin guru then sort out and find a more so called perfect rod!
jhoffman reply :
I like a moderate action period, so having a chance to use it for cranking is right up my alley. A rod should flex in my opinion, its a rod, not a piece of steel. Theres no doubt I can feel lures much better with a soft rod
Jrob78 reply :
For me, the heavier the bait and/or the deeper it dives, the more moderate I want my rod to be. If the bait is very shallow or light, I can get by with a med fast rod.
hatrix reply :
I don't know what line you use but if you issue is not enough give in the rod to let the fish really inhale it you can change your line you can switch to something a little stretchier.
aavery2 reply :
You can fish with whatever you have available, but, a ratchet and socket, open end wrench, box end wrench, pliers, and a crescent wrench will all take a nut off a bolt, but one will usually get the job done a little better in a given situation.
iabass8 reply :
On 4/10/2014 at 3:48 AM, MarkH024 said:Toliet paper isn't necessary but it's the best application for the job. Do you want to have the best, or do you want to get by?
That's up for you to decide.
the pillow case i used last year on a fishing trip would beg to differ. my backside was cleaner in one swipe than it has ever been. you could wear those things like a glove and be a-ok.
Mikell reply :
I broke down and bought a 7' MH powell diesel glass rod, got it for 58 bucks with 2 day air shipping so figured that was about the best price i was gonna find on a glass rod anywhere lol
Dave P reply :
I doubt you will be disappointed!
TrippyJai reply :
Being mostly a bank fisherman and limiting my rods to 3, I sold my Fenwick Elite Tech Crankshaft. I'm now using a 7' M/F Avid to do all my cranking and I like using it more than the cranking rod. It works great for mostly shallow to mid depth, nothing deeper than 10 feet. It's also a great rod for traps, topwater and jerkbaits. The rod is too soft for Texas rigs I find.
What's most important for me is to keep the fish down and loosen the drag a little more. The only time I lose a fish is when it jumps. Upgrading my crankbait hooks have improve on this though.
Mikell reply :
On 4/12/2014 at 8:20 AM, TrippyJai said:Being mostly a bank fisherman and limiting my rods to 3, I sold my Fenwick Elite Tech Crankshaft. I'm now using a 7' M/F Avid to do all my cranking and I like using it more than the cranking rod. It works great for mostly shallow to mid depth, nothing deeper than 10 feet. It's also a great rod for traps, topwater and jerkbaits. The rod is too soft for Texas rigs I find.
What's most important for me is to keep the fish down and loosen the drag a little more. The only time I lose a fish is when it jumps. Upgrading my crankbait hooks have improve on this though.
Out of curioustity, what do you mean "too soft" for Texas rigs?
I also am mainly a bank fisherman, i love it but would love to be able to go out on a boat if i had one or a friend that had one lol
TrippyJai reply :
On 4/12/2014 at 8:33 AM, Mikell said:Out of curioustity, what do you mean "too soft" for Texas rigs?
I also am mainly a bank fisherman, i love it but would love to be able to go out on a boat if i had one or a friend that had one lol
The St Croix 7' Avid M/F is rated a fast action rod. It has a soft tip though making it hard to get a good hook set when T-rigging so it's become my treble hook rod.
Mikell reply :
Makes sense! It is a very versatile rod, I found mine on CL for a pretty good deal for a combo lol
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