Buyer's Remorse, Help Me Downgrade Rods!!! 2024
HuskyKMA reply :
On a whim, I recently picked up some new G. Loomis bass rods. Now, I wish I hadn't spent so much on rods that are probably far to good for my fishing ability or how much I fish. I'd like to sell the Loomis sticks and "downgrade" to some rods in the $100-150 range and would like some advice on which brand/series is best in that pricerange. I would like to go split grip, and hate rods that are really tip heavy. These are some rods I saw on TW that looked interesting, which should I go with?
Abu Garcia Veritas
Dobyns Savvy
Falcon Bucoo
Powel Max
McAlpine reply :
Keep the Loomis rods and go enjoy them!
SirSnookalot reply :
IMO, if you are not perfectly acquainted with a rod, don't buy it on line.
kylek reply :
I have 2 of the Veritas rods and really like them. I don't know anything about the rest of them though. I don't think you could go wrong with any of the group.
*Hootie reply :
On 11/23/2012 at 3:49 PM, SirSnookalot said:IMO, if you are not perfectly acquainted with a rod, don't buy it on line.
X 2, no wait, X 10
Been there, done that, bad mistake, wont do it again.
Hootie
Sam reply :
Keep the Loomis rods.
Use them!
Enjoy them!
Save your pennies and dimes and start reading about other rods to complete your collection. Just remember, you never have enough rods.
May I suggest reading the Tackle Warehouse reviews of different rods; search this site for specific discussions on specific rods; go to the manufactuer's web pages and read their BS along with your favorite pros web pages and read their hype on the brands they are hawking.
Go to BPS, Cabela's and local tackle shops and feel the rods. Take your reel along and set up the rod and see how it feels. Front heavy? Back heavy? Balanced just right?
Rods are not simple products. A lot of engineering and research go into each rod's production by the rod companies. The manufacturers want to produce a good product but you need to decide which type of rod you have the most confidence.
Also be sure to read the rod's specifications to make sure they apply to the techniques you use and your reels will balance with the rod's paramaters.
Just be sure to make up your own mind and dismiss a lot the the pap and babble you will read from the pros and manufacturers.
Now get some construction paper and a big red chisel tip Sharpie and write the following to post in your "man cave" or front room wall: YOU NEVER HAVE ENOUGH RODS!
Happy Thanksgiving!
LgMouthGambler reply :
All you were looking at are good rods. Also, try the Shimano Compre. I just acquired one, and I really like it. You might want to try and get your hands on one of them first before buying one. If you buy online I know its tough.
FishinDaddy reply :
I have 3 veritas and 1 vendetta and I don't think there is a better rod for the money. I build custom rods for fun and have a hard time building that good of rods for 100 bucks.
Bass_Fanatic reply :
I own pretty much every brand of rod in the $100 - $200 price range. Dobyns, Powell, Phenix, IROD, Shimano, Abu, Cabelas, BPS, and Falcon. Out of them all, I would opt for the Powell Max or Endurance or the Phenix Recon.
The Rooster reply :
You probably won't get back the money out of those rods that they costed you to buy them new by just selling them to the next guy. I understand the feeling you are having though. I've bought stuff that I thought was too much at times. My Shimano reels for example. Sometimes I think for what I'm using them for that they costed too much money and there's the impulse to sell them and go with cheaper reels, but then I remember that used they are worth far less so all I would be doing is getting what I could for them and then spending that whole amount, or more, on lesser reels. Also, there are times when I'm using them that I realize how well suited they are to the particular task I'm doing at the time as well, and then I'm glad I kept them.
Whatever you decide to do, just remember these won't be the last rods you ever buy and next time you will know how much use you got from these so you can choose then to either continue with buying rods like them, or step down some based on what you have learned from this experience. In the mean time, since you have them, I'd fish them and see if they are better than the others you've had before. The only way I'd do otherwise is if they were still brand new, unused, and could be returned for a refund or exchange. You might get lucky and sell them for a very modest discount over what you paid but I think most guys buying rods from someone instead of from a store are looking for a deal so they won't pay retail prices or even close to that.
Maico1 reply :
On 11/23/2012 at 1:45 PM, HuskyKMA said:On a whim, I recently picked up some new G. Loomis bass rods. Now, I wish I hadn't spent so much on rods that are probably far to good for my fishing ability or how much I fish. I'd like to sell the Loomis sticks and "downgrade" to some rods in the $100-150 range and would like some advice on which brand/series is best in that pricerange. I would like to go split grip, and hate rods that are really tip heavy. These are some rods I saw on TW that looked interesting, which should I go with?
Abu Garcia Veritas
Dobyns Savvy
Falcon Bucoo
Powel Max
On 11/23/2012 at 1:45 PM, HuskyKMA said:On a whim, I recently picked up some new G. Loomis bass rods. Now, I wish I hadn't spent so much on rods that are probably far to good for my fishing ability or how much I fish. I'd like to sell the Loomis sticks and "downgrade" to some rods in the $100-150 range and would like some advice on which brand/series is best in that pricerange. I would like to go split grip, and hate rods that are really tip heavy. These are some rods I saw on TW that looked interesting, which should I go with?
Abu Garcia Veritas
Dobyns Savvy
Falcon Bucoo
Powel Max
Which models are they.......
sarcazmo reply :
I'd keep the loomis rods!
If I had to downgrade though I still dont think anything is close to the *** *** black series... If I were to spend a little more I'd be looking @ the Phenix Recon/M1 series. Just ordered 1 of each with the TW sale. Might even order a *** *** too...
Mike L reply :
On 11/23/2012 at 6:58 PM, Sam said:Keep the Loomis rods.
Use them!
Enjoy them!
Save your pennies and dimes and start reading about other rods to complete your collection. Just remember, you never have enough rods.
May I suggest reading the Tackle Warehouse reviews of different rods; search this site for specific discussions on specific rods; go to the manufactuer's web pages and read their BS along with your favorite pros web pages and read their hype on the brands they are hawking.
Go to BPS, Cabela's and local tackle shops and feel the rods. Take your reel along and set up the rod and see how it feels. Front heavy? Back heavy? Balanced just right?
Rods are not simple products. A lot of engineering and research go into each rod's production by the rod companies. The manufacturers want to produce a good product but you need to decide which type of rod you have the most confidence.
Also be sure to read the rod's specifications to make sure they apply to the techniques you use and your reels will balance with the rod's paramaters.
Just be sure to make up your own mind and dismiss a lot the the pap and babble you will read from the pros and manufacturers.
Now get some construction paper and a big red chisel tip Sharpie and write the following to post in your "man cave" or front room wall: YOU NEVER HAVE ENOUGH RODS!
Happy Thanksgiving!
Read this twice...Great advise.
Mike
HuskyKMA reply :
I bought the Loomis rods on clearance at a really good price, so I know I can get my money back and more out of them. That's part of the reason I jumped on them, didn't really know whether I wanted to keep them or turn them for a profit, but I knew I couldn't lose. I am going to sell them now, either on here or another fishing site or on flea-bay.
So, totally disregarding the fact tha I have a couple of Loomis sticks propped in the corner currently, what's the best rod in the $100-150 range?
A-Jay reply :
First off ~ Welcome to the BR site
Second - your posts are a little confusing -
"On a whim, I recently picked up some new G. Loomis bass rods. Now, I wish I hadn't spent so much on rods that are probably far to good for my fishing ability or how much I fish. "
"I bought the Loomis rods on clearance at a really good price, so I know I can get my money back and more out of them."
Which is it ?
Either way - I'm with the majority of the previous responses here -
Since you acquired this gear on clearance (which doesn't happen much) Keep It.
Opting for what some might consider inferior gear for slightly less money might not be the way to go.
Many anglers start with a lesser quality rod and work up to more expensive stuff as their abilities and experience increases.
There is nothing that says you can't start with better gear unless the Loomis rods are the totally incorrect action / length for your applications.
A-Jay
BASSclary reply :
On 11/23/2012 at 8:39 PM, Bass_Fanatic said:I own pretty much every brand of rod in the $100 - $200 price range. Dobyns, Powell, Phenix, IROD, Shimano, Abu, Cabelas, BPS, and Falcon. Out of them all, I would opt for the Powell Max or Endurance or the Phenix Recon.
I've owned my fair share of rods in the price range too, and BY FAR, the Powell (havent owned a Phenix yet) is the best rod in the category, plus fits all your need, at a price that doesn't make your wallet cringe.
Check out my review I did of them on here, use the search feature or just google Powell Max Review
PABASS reply :
On 11/24/2012 at 1:38 AM, HuskyKMA said:I bought the Loomis rods on clearance at a really good price, so I know I can get my money back and more out of them. That's part of the reason I jumped on them, didn't really know whether I wanted to keep them or turn them for a profit, but I knew I couldn't lose. I am going to sell them now, either on here or another fishing site or on flea-bay.
So, totally disregarding the fact tha I have a couple of Loomis sticks propped in the corner currently, what's the best rod in the $100-150 range?
This seems a bit shady to me, you buy these rods on sale and will turn around to sell them to make a profit, take a portion of that money to buy cheaper rods, why? If it was me I wouldn't buy them from you based on this post, you may have burned yourself on this one. Personally I would keep the rods, because a $150 rod will not compare to a high end rod and if you got them for a deal that only makes it better, these rods will last you for many years why sell emm?
upnorthbassin reply :
Doesn't seem shady at all to me. If you saw a $350 rod for $175 but you couldn't try it before you bought it, it's still a safe bet because if you don't like it you can always get your money back. All it costs you is a bit of time to sell and ship it and you might even make a few bucks. If you like the rod then heck...you got a rod you like for a great price. Nothing wrong with that at all. Lots of people buy and sell gear constantly. If someone is selling a dozen of them.....there's nothing wrong with buying them up and selling them for a profit if you want to do that. That's business.
The real question is whether or not you will be as happy with the replacements. If you're not....it's not as easy to go and get the more expensive ones back for the same price. I say keep them. Rods are like jello. There's always room for more. Whether you learn to drive in a hyundai or a bentley.....you still gotta learn if you want to drive.
PABASS reply :
On 11/24/2012 at 4:18 AM, upnorthbassin said:Doesn't seem shady at all to me. If you saw a $350 rod for $175 but you couldn't try it before you bought it, it's still a safe bet because if you don't like it you can always get your money back. All it costs you is a bit of time to sell and ship it and you might even make a few bucks. If you like the rod then heck...you got a rod you like for a great price. Nothing wrong with that at all. Lots of people buy and sell gear constantly. If someone is selling a dozen of them.....there's nothing wrong with buying them up and selling them for a profit if you want to do that. That's business.
The real question is whether or not you will be as happy with the replacements. If you're not....it's not as easy to go and get the more expensive ones back for the same price. I say keep them. Rods are like jello. There's always room for more. Whether you learn to drive in a hyundai or a bentley.....you still gotta learn if you want to drive.
I understand this however that isn't how this post started, check out the post's title. To me it just seems like the whole post was to attract buyers, maybe I am wrong, but that's what I am getting from this post. Based on your logic, he would make a 25$ profit after a $150 rod purchase why would you sell a HIGH END ROD for that, think about it..
upnorthbassin reply :
On 11/24/2012 at 4:26 AM, PABASS said:I understand this however that isn't how this post started, check out the post's title. To me it just seems like the whole post was to attract buyers, maybe I am wrong, but that's what I am getting from this post. Based on your logic, he would make a 25$ profit after a $150 rod purchase why would you sell a HIGH END ROD for that, think about it..
He never said which rods he bought or how much he paid for them. There is no way to calculate a profit if you don't know those 2 numbers. My example was just numbers showing the cost being covered, not a big profit. That's why I said it's a safe bet. If you don't like it...no money lost. You never know....he might have gotten a way better deal than that. You could be right though....he could be looking to attract buyers instead of get rod suggestions. I just gave him the benefit of the doubt. Who knows.
HuskyKMA reply :
Sigh, this is why I tried to say ignore the fact that I have the Loomis rods now, it's become more of a topic on whether I should sell them or what my ulterior motives may be. Probably should have just titled the thread "best $150 rod?" and not even mentioned the ones I had. I was originally looking in the $100-150 price range, but then walked into the store one day and saw the Loomis ones on sale and snatched up a couple without really thinking it through.
Think of it this way, was looking at the $5 rods but bought a $10 rod for $8 on sale. Decided it's more than I wanted to spend, so sell it for $9, and then buy the $5 rod for what in effect is $4. I don't get what's shady about that. True a few people have PMed me about the Loomis rods, but that wasn't my intent and I haven't and probably won't respond to them.
Now, which is the better rod in the $100-150 range?
NorcalBassin reply :
Hopefully you can get what you think you can for those used Loomis rods. As far as your listed rods, the Powel is probably the best in that range with the Veritas being the best sub-$100. Personally I'd be all over clearanced Cumaras in that price range, but they're not on your list. Best of luck and don't sell yourself short on your skills not being "worthy" of any equipment!
sarcazmo reply :
I've got diesels, veritas, bucoo, and the 13 fisihing *** black series. *** black is my fav by far. I've got a phenix recon and m1 on order I'll let ya know how those are! The *** *** series might be a good bet with the 20% off sales! Haven't read anythign negative about em yet and if finances allow I'll hopefully have one of them too.
QUAKEnSHAKE reply :
On 11/24/2012 at 5:20 AM, HuskyKMA said:Sigh, this is why I tried to say ignore the fact that I have the Loomis rods now, it's become more of a topic on whether I should sell them or what my ulterior motives may be. Probably should have just titled the thread "best $150 rod?" and not even mentioned the ones I had. I was originally looking in the $100-150 price range, but then walked into the store one day and saw the Loomis ones on sale and snatched up a couple without really thinking it through.
Think of it this way, was looking at the $5 rods but bought a $10 rod for $8 on sale. Decided it's more than I wanted to spend, so sell it for $9, and then buy the $5 rod for what in effect is $4. I don't get what's shady about that. True a few people have PMed me about the Loomis rods, but that wasn't my intent and I haven't and probably won't respond to them.
Now, which is the better rod in the $100-150 range?
If you dont mind or would like to try micro-guides look at Quantum Smoke rod very light, balanced, sensitive rod in 7' Med Fast. I had the like feature in a veritas and the Smoke bettered it in these areas.
EvanT123 reply :
It might be the rod that doesn't hurt you wallet and catches fish.
HuskyKMA reply :
skeletor6 reply :
Best sub $100 rod imho is the Veritas
Best Sub $200 Rod is a Phenix Recon or a cumara if you can find one. Powells are great too just slightly below the others imho
coolhandlala reply :
I'd go with the powell max's or the cumara's that TW has pn sale right now as long as you can find what you want.
sarcazmo reply :
On 11/25/2012 at 7:16 AM, skeletor6 said:Best sub $100 rod imho is the Veritas
Best Sub $200 Rod is a Phenix Recon or a cumara if you can find one. Powells are great too just slightly below the others imho
Dont forget about the new M1s if you want something a little more stout.
roadwarrior reply :
On 11/24/2012 at 2:42 AM, A-Jay said:First off ~ Welcome to the BR site
Second - your posts are a little confusing -
"On a whim, I recently picked up some new G. Loomis bass rods. Now, I wish I hadn't spent so much on rods that are probably far to good for my fishing ability or how much I fish. "
"I bought the Loomis rods on clearance at a really good price, so I know I can get my money back and more out of them."
Which is it ?
Either way - I'm with the majority of the previous responses here -
Since you acquired this gear on clearance (which doesn't happen much) Keep It.
Opting for what some might consider inferior gear for slightly less money might not be the way to go.
Many anglers start with a lesser quality rod and work up to more expensive stuff as their abilities and experience increases.
There is nothing that says you can't start with better gear unless the Loomis rods are the totally incorrect action / length for your applications.
A-Jay
Great advice!
Keep the G. Loomis.
Fishin24/7 reply :
I personally wouldn't buy the savvy series, I have one and its alright but the vertias is just as good or better for MUCH cheaper.
kickerfish1 reply :
This is kind of an odd post. I can't recall ever seeing someone wanting to downgrade their rod aresenal other than for pure financial reasons or possibly if they had a change of rod sponsors. But back to the topic at hand you have many options. I would consider St. Croix Avid rods, Powell Endurance, Phenix Recon, or Dobyns Savy rod lines. They each can be had on sale for under $150. Frankily without knowing what criteria is important to you in a rod and whether you want all rods to be from the same series it is hard to steer you in the right direction as some of these manufacturers have more technique specific rods to select from. Dobyns will balance the best and I love the versatility, the recons will be the lightest but a touch tip heavy, the endurance is great quality and pretty sensitive, the avid is fairly light and sensitive but lacks modern looks if that is important. They all have lifetime warranties and are very solid rods. Of the above rods I feel the most sensitive is the recon followed closely by the avid. This is just my opinion and the sensitivity of these rods will be different for various anglers.
piscicidal reply :
I agree with those who say keep the loomis. There may be some short-term anxiety over the purchase, but in the long-term you'll be glad you did it.
Ive never regretted buying good stuff. OTOH, got a pile of cheap rods in my carousel that I look at every day with regret....could have got a couple more Dobyns Champs with the money I spent on those... 
BirdNestBen reply :
I don't know much about the Loomis rods... never tried em but they have the reputation of being the best... and by all the folks on here who like em they have to be great....
I bought a Falcon Bucoo Micro 7' MH lately and I love the rod.. it's in your price range for sure... very light and sensitive,yet strong as well.... Still I dream of upgrading to the FALCON CARA.... which to me is the ultimate bass rod.... I know their are better ones out there, more expensive, but the feel on this rod just cant be touched....
I also know by the members on here that the DOBYN's rods are super and are in your range for sure... there's a guy on here that sells them, and I'm sure he'd make you a great deal....
Anyways good luck...
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