Spiral Wrapped Line Guides 2024

OkobojiEagle reply :

What happened to all of the love for spiral wrapped line guides? I don't read anything about them lately. Did they fall out of favor with the builders and were replaced with micro-guides? How are the spiral wrapped rods working out for those that tried them?

J Francho reply :

My custom swimbait rod has spiral wrapped micros. Works great. Since micros sit so close to the blank, it really makes sense to go with a spiral wrap to keep the line off the blank with a fish on.

Dwight Hottle reply :

Spiral wrap on baitcasters for custom rods is a no brainer. They prevent the blank from twisting when loaded & help with line management. I have them on a custom jerkbait rod & love them. Unfortunately the only production rod (if you want to call it a production rod) utilizing this technology is Edge Rods by Gary Loomis. Like John said spiral wrapped micros work too as well as other conventional guides systems spiral wrapped.

http://www.edgerods.com/catalog/rods/bass

J Francho reply :

More than a year ago, I was talking to Boyd Duckett. He had a pile of spiral wrapped prototypes in his truck. I wonder what happened?

deaknh03 reply :

I have a custom rod with spiral wrap, and it is my favorite rod in the arsenal.

BigMoneyGrip reply :

Hammer Rods also has a spiral wrapped rod. I've been wanting to try one as their right down the road from me. As a bonus, they're 100% made in the US.

Dwight Hottle reply :

On 9/25/2013 at 10:41 PM, BigMoneyGrip said:
Hammer Rods also has a spiral wrapped rod. I've been wanting to try one as their right down the road from me. As a bonus, they're 100% made in the US.

What are you waiting on.

BigMoneyGrip reply :

On 9/25/2013 at 11:12 PM, Dwight Hottle said:
What are you waiting on.

Money! All of the money I make goes into our house. We're hoping to have it paid off in 8 years. We are debt free other than that. I do work on the side, fixing things that others can't (motorcycles). They bring them to me as a last resort most of the time and I pretty much charge what I want. This extra money is what I use to buy fishing toys. I have enough saved up for a 10' Bass Hunter and trolling motor, I just haven't pulled the trigger.

Jrob78 reply :

I build the majority of my rods with spiral wrapped micros. I see no reason not to.

OkobojiEagle reply :

So what happened to all of the conversation about them? A couple of years ago you couldn't read a post about rod building that didn't morph into a conversation about the proper way to spiral wrap a rod (exaggeration, of course). Certainly this style of guide wrapping a baitcasting rod hasn't become mainstream.

J Francho reply :

Hot topics come and go.

flyfisher reply :

I was watching a salt water show and one of the boats was using them and all they were raving about them.....of course then i saw the rod was also a sponsor of the show

I woudl give one a whirl if i was in teh market for a new rod but i am good with my rod arsenal for now....

Jrob78 reply :

On 9/26/2013 at 3:33 AM, OkobojiEagle said:

So what happened to all of the conversation about them? A couple of years ago you couldn't read a post about rod building that didn't morph into a conversation about the proper way to spiral wrap a rod (exaggeration, of course). Certainly this style of guide wrapping a baitcasting rod hasn't become mainstream.

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The vast majority of rod builders, that I know about at least, are building spiral wrapped rods as much as possible for customers and 100% for their personal rods. I just think it's a hard sell to the average fisherman. Big companies aren't going to build them if they don't think they'll sell. It took years for micro guides to show up on commercial rods.

Diablos reply :

I have made a few bass rods that are spiral wrapped but I don't think there is a huge difference on such light rods. Most bass fisherman including myself rarely fight a fish for more than 10 seconds.

In saltwater when fighting fish from bigger depths I feel it makes a huge difference.

Munkin reply :

I understand the physics behind it but we are not fishing for tarpon? For me the chances of breaking a guide because of the way I like to have 20 rods on deck is greater than any benefit I get from the system. The same goes with the micro guides, I understand why but for practical fishing they will freeze up a lot quicker in the cold weather and a 6-6 ml spinning rod doesn't weight too much to begin with. With that said I do plan on having a custom DS rod built with micro guides but it would only be used with 6lb floro in the summer.

Allen

Jrob78 reply :

On 9/26/2013 at 10:24 AM, Munkin said:

I understand the physics behind it but we are not fishing for tarpon? For me the chances of breaking a guide because of the way I like to have 20 rods on deck is greater than any benefit I get from the system. The same goes with the micro guides, I understand why but for practical fishing they will freeze up a lot quicker in the cold weather and a 6-6 ml spinning rod doesn't weight too much to begin with. With that said I do plan on having a custom DS rod built with micro guides but it would only be used with 6lb floro in the summer.

Allen

Actually, a 6'6" ml spinning rod would benefit more from micro guides than most rods. The lighter the blank, the more added weight will effect it.

Diablos reply :

I am going to say that most bass fisherman will have their left hand firmly wrapped around the reel while reeling with their right hand when fighting a fish. Due to the lightness of the set-up there is barely any torque from the reel.

Saltwater guys tend to use the foregrip as a hold point and spiral wrapped guides will help when there is a heavy reel to keep from moving around.

BobP reply :

I often wrap my own rods and most times, I'll use a spiral design. Farther casts? Not that I have noticed. Fewer broken rod tips due to twisting forces? Maybe, but that's so rare in a bass rod to be inconsequential. My reason is that a spiral wrap lets you use one less guide and still get good performance - and one less guide is less weight out on the tip of the rod where additional weight is most noticeable. Not a huge deal, but every little bit counts, so why not?

OkobojiEagle reply :

Are there benefits from a spiral wrapped rod beyond less twisting torque when playing a fish? Better casting? Better vibration transmission?

00 mod reply :

I have a custom rod being built right now, and I did not have a choice. The rod builder just asked me, to the right or left? I didn't know the answer so he explained, and since my reels are righties, so is the spiral.

Jeff

.RM. reply :

The truth about it all (spiral) Roberts Wrap, posted here in 03...

http://rodbuilding.org/read.php?2,50190,50208

flechero reply :

I don't own a single rod with guides up.

.RM. reply :

On 9/29/2013 at 8:49 PM, flechero said:
I don't own a single rod with guides up.

dave reply :

I have a couple of spiral wraps. One 7' MHF and one 7' HF. I am still doing some testing but, they pitch poorly. It has a lot of guides and I think that is affecting the line flow. When I tie on a hollow body frog, it will cast a mile very effortlessly. I am thinking of rewrapping one with standard size guides.

Delaware Valley Tackle reply :

Spiral wrapping allows the line to flow on it's natural path, typically allows the use of fewer guides and results in a better performing rod. A bass isn't going to wrench a rod from your grasp, but if you can work with physics instead of against it, why not? The general public just does not accept the non-traditional look of a spiral wrap. One more reason to have your rods built the way you want them.

BassWhole! reply :

Are you guys honestly saying that a bass has twisted a rod on you? Come on! They are called acid wrapped for a reason, cause the builder does drugs. Other that a pelagic capable of pulling you out of the boat, there really isn't a good reason for them. Wanna see the 237 yellowfin on the BPS Capt's Choice $89.99 rod?

Jolly Green reply :

I just looked up spiral wrapped rods, as I had never heard of such a thing. As an average fisherman, let me just say yup, those look really weird, to the point of gimmicky. I think I understand the concept, and I don't doubt that it works in practice, just shockingly odd to my eye. And I feel like there must be some wicked torque on the first two guides from the reel; are they more susceptible to deformation or breaking loose, etc.?

Delaware Valley Tackle reply :

Not at all, when properly located spiral wrapped guides simply allow the line to travel the most natural path of least resistance and more often than not allows the use of 1-2 fewer guides saving tip weight. The idea of saving weight isn't a fatigue thing it's all about helping the blank retain as much as possible of it's inherent design qualities. The idea is not that a bass or weight of a reel is going to rip the rod from your hands it's just that the torqueing is indicative of the rod wasting energy keeping the line from doing what it naturally wants to do which is roll to the underside of the blank. It's not a magic cure all any more than micro guides, high modulus blanks, or anything else. It's just a piece of the puzzle for a more efficient & enjoyable to fish piece of tackle.

Jrob78 reply :

You're a patient dude Mike.

Jolly Green reply :

Interesting concept, thanks for explaining.

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