dock talk... 2024
pigpounder reply :
It's never worked for me and never will but most of us if not all of us have tried it ...but has it ever payed off for you?
Stickling reply :
yea, when im at the beach i talk to people on the dock all the time. And if your bice enouph they will give yo utheir bait when they are done. haha
John Cullum reply :
I listen and respond just to be social but never take what anyone says very serious.
I did however fish with Zeke Wright at Top 8 about 5 years ago. I drew him as a non-boater and I let him run my boat all 8 hours. The guy is a legend out on Freeman and Shafer. I barely fished at all I just watched him like a hawk. Every cast and retrieve he made I studied. I learned more that day than in 50 times fishing those lakes. He was the best non-baoter I ever had. He told me every single secret he knew and I listened. He grew up on the lake and has been fishing it for 20 years. He also told me that he has offered to help every boater he has ever drawn and none of them would listen to a word he said. So there are a few guys out there that will spill the beans if you asked them but only a few.
Chris reply :
I guess it would depend on who said what and if its a trustworthy source. I take people fishing all the time that are not the most skilled fishermen in the world. I try to make it a point to teach them how to catch fish and one or two things that help them catch more fish. I figure if they get hooked they might stick with it.
ryanerb reply :
I'm hoping to set a record for bringing back the oldest thread, but it seems that dock talk just worked for Ott Defoe as he won the 2019 Classic after talking to Keith Poche at the toilet: https://www.bassmaster.com/blog/defoe-credits-poche-divine-intervention
As another side note:
I think it's possible beginners could benefit from dock talk. Guys that are still learning don't have all the lures and conditions and locations figured out, sometimes dock talk could be taken as some 'tips' to help a guy still learning the ropes, pointing him in the right direction per se... Of course assuming that the experienced guy isn't lying to the beginner... I'm not sure if dock talk is always considered lies. If it is always lies, then forget what I just said.
A-Jay reply :
Congrats ~
You may have done it.
Dock talk may not teach beginners a whole lot. Learning, failing and certainly succeeding stands a better chance.
A-Jay
Darren. reply :
Wow man! 2005 has GOT to be a thread resurrection first 
J Francho reply :
Fourscore and 14 years ago....
Dock talk is still pretty much useless in this day in age.
Also... odd to me. Wasn't this after the cut?
QuoteParticipating Elite anglers are allowed to talk to other Elite anglers regarding fishing on tournament waters until cuts are made for each event.
ryanerb reply :
On 3/20/2019 at 1:31 AM, A-Jay said:
Dock talk may not teach beginners a whole lot. Learning, failing and certainly succeeding stands a better chance.
A-Jay
If not for Dock Talk, do you believe in mentors or guides to help kick start a bass fisherman's journey?
J Francho reply :
Mentors are crucial. Joining a local club is a great way to become acquainted with techniques, and possibly find a mentor.
A-Jay reply :
On 3/20/2019 at 2:40 AM, ryanerb said:If not for Dock Talk, do you believe in mentors or guides to help kick start a bass fisherman's journey?
Do I believe in it?
Isn't that what this site is all about? Sharing information in any form can be beneficial.
A-Jay
TnRiver46 reply :
On 3/20/2019 at 2:30 AM, J Francho said:Fourscore and 14 years ago....
Dock talk is still pretty much useless in this day in age.
Also... odd to me. Wasn't this after the cut?
They were still waiting to weigh in on day 2 when they had the convo
J Francho reply :
On 3/20/2019 at 3:05 AM, TnRiver46 said:They were still waiting to weigh in on day 2 when they had the convo
Thanks, so before the cut and perfectly legal.
Jleebesaw reply :
If I talk to someone on the dock I am truthfully about what I got, where, and what lures. It stands to reason that some others would be the same. I mostly fun fish so I dont feel the need to lie to or mislead someone.
That said, I rarely put much consideration on what other people tell me unless it falls in line with my own thoughts.
TnRiver46 reply :
On 3/20/2019 at 3:11 AM, J Francho said:Thanks, so before the cut and perfectly legal.
Yes, the only reason I knew is because I was in the arena when he explained it
Bluebasser86 reply :
I don't ask, and I'm selective about sharing information. If someone openly shares when I ask if they did any good, I'll listen, but not going to plan my next trip on that information if they said they did good.
WRB reply :
Tournament participants sharing info during a event is prohibited in most events except the Classic where some pros have shared not only info but lures in the past, the ultimate dock talk.
Tom
jbsoonerfan reply :
If I am leaving the lake and someone getting ready to launch asks me if I did any good, I will tell them where I caught them, what I caught them on, and how many I caught. I'm just an honest guy. They can take it, or leave it.
Dirtyeggroll reply :
Last year a day before a tournament we ran into some guys that had already fished the lake that day. They told us that your frog had to have a white belly or it just would not produce much. I tied on a white-bellied frog that morning and the boater I was fishing with left on his dark-bellied frog about 90 minutes into the tournament we had a limit and I had caught all of the fish. The boated I was fishing with changed to a white-bellied frog and started catching them. I still don't really believe it.
TOXIC reply :
The list of fishermen whos "Dock Talk" I trust is very, very short!! I gotta hand it to the Florida guys. They go out of their way to tell each other lies!!
My tournament partner when I lived there was a very successful tournament angler. He would take off and run to spots that held-0- fish and made sure everyone saw where he was going. He would tell me to act like I was fishing but to not even cast. Afterwards or at the weigh in he was usually in the $$ and most often in the top 3 and the "Dock Talk" he shared was hilarious. I had a hard time keeping a straight face.
Jigfishn10 reply :
If I go bank fishing after work for a couple of hours I usually run into a kid fishing as well. Inevitably he'll see me catch a fish and will come over to ask what I caught, how many and so on. Usually they're very polite. I'll tell them where the spots are and will cut the lure off my line and will send them on their way.
I don't seek out information, I actually like the hunt and experience, but for the kids, I'll do what I can to get them on fish and into the sport.
Koz reply :
I fish from the bank, don't fish tournaments, and fish in areas with hundreds of lagoons. If someone asks I'll gladly tell them what I caught and where I caught it. The way I see it is that whatever secret spot you have is also fished by a few dozen other people throughout the week.
The place that I fish mainly is in a 55+ community and most of the old timers are just throwing a plastic worm or occasionally a crankbait and don't have the range of tackle that I have.
Ratherbfishing reply :
Sometimes I'll listen and chat with people when I'm first getting on the lake but I avoid it like the plague when I'm getting off. I don't like having my 4 fish diminished when someone tells me they DESTROYED them on X, Y, or Z. They might have been... (ahem) "embellishing" or they might not but, either way, I don't enjoy having my day altered by comparing myself with some one else. Call it an ego thing but it's the primary reason why I don't fish tournaments.
J Francho reply :
On 3/20/2019 at 11:23 PM, Ratherbfishing said:Call it an ego thing but it's the primary reason why I don't fish tournaments.
Hmmm. Very interesting, and important point. This is precisely why I fish tournaments. I like to see where I stack up. It's important to note that I don't fish any different in a tournament or a day of fun fishing. I do better if I'm unencumbered by self inflicted pressure. I also like to see someone else do well. It's a different mindset, I suppose. Thanks for getting me to think about this.
NHBull reply :
I spend most of my time on the same lake......and it can be a very challenging one to figure out.
I get a few calls a summer from tournament guys for input and I fact, I often take them out.
.....truth be told, knowing how the weather effects the lake is far more import..
....and I do love hearing the guys at the coffee shop talk about spots that don't exist
The Maestro reply :
On 3/20/2019 at 8:06 PM, TOXIC said:He would take off and run to spots that held-0- fish and made sure everyone saw where he was going. He would tell me to act like I was fishing but to not even cast.
I don't even fish tournaments but I still do this on my lake. I'm the only serious bass angler that fishes that water as much as I do. Most are just cottagers or casuals. In the last couple of years I've noticed more cottagers watching me when I'm fishing. They've probably seen me catch fish. I've had boats try to scope what I'm doing. I'll just pick up and move to dead water when I see them trying to poach my spots. Most of the time the ruse actually works and they'll go waste their time on these dud spots. I've been beating my brains out for the past 10 years trying to figure out that water. Why should I just give that all away to a bunch of randoms?
TnRiver46 reply :
On 3/21/2019 at 2:20 AM, The Maestro said:I don't even fish tournaments but I still do this on my lake. I'm the only serious bass angler that fishes that water as much as I do. Most are just cottagers or casuals. In the last couple of years I've noticed more cottagers watching me when I'm fishing. They've probably seen me catch fish. I've had boats try to scope what I'm doing. I'll just pick up and move to dead water when I see them trying to poach my spots. Most of the time the ruse actually works and they'll go waste their time on these dud spots. I've been beating my brains out for the past 10 years trying to figure out that water. Why should I just give that all away to a bunch of randoms?
Randy Travis’s answer to your last sentence is “it’s not what you take when you leave this world behind you, but what you leave behind you when you go.” I’m not saying I don’t participate in some fishing mind games or anything like that, those lyrics just came to mind. I’ve made some good friends sharing fishing info with others
The Maestro reply :
On 3/21/2019 at 8:44 AM, TnRiver46 said:Randy Travis’s answer to your last sentence is “it’s not what you take when you leave this world behind you, but what you leave behind you when you go.” I’m not saying I don’t participate in some fishing mind games or anything like that, those lyrics just came to mind. I’ve made some good friends sharing fishing info with others
Sharing info is one thing. Giving away your hard earned spots to random strangers who are stealthily trying to follow you around is another thing entirely. I have no problem with the former and have taken time out of my day on many occasions to help out people less experienced but I take major exception with the latter.
TnRiver46 reply :
On 3/21/2019 at 9:06 AM, The Maestro said:Sharing info is one thing. Giving away your hard earned spots to random strangers who are stealthily trying to follow you around is another thing entirely. I have no problem with the former and have taken time out of my day on many occasions to help out people less experienced but I take major exception with the latter.
Like on chickamauga when people come off plane when you set the hook? Followed by a mysterious beeping sound .......
The Maestro reply :
On 3/21/2019 at 9:33 AM, TnRiver46 said:Like on chickamauga when people come off plane when you set the hook? Followed by a mysterious beeping sound .......
Exactly. If people want to poach spots, I'm more than happy to give them spots. They just won't have any fish on them.
lo n slo reply :
On 3/20/2019 at 8:41 PM, Koz said:
The place that I fish mainly is in a 55+ community and most of the old timers are just throwing a plastic worm
????
Jigfishn10 reply :
On 3/22/2019 at 3:23 AM, lo n slo said:????
Priceless!
928JLH reply :
Definitely pretty honest about what's working. We have lots of winter visitors here that always eat everything. I tell them the fishing is terrible ????
I'm surprised by how many guys in bass boats don't listen to the kayak guys. We catch lots of bass too.
TnRiver46 reply :
On 3/22/2019 at 3:33 AM, 928JLH said:Definitely pretty honest about what's working. We have lots of winter visitors here that always eat everything. I tell them the fishing is terrible ????
I'm surprised by how many guys in bass boats don't listen to the kayak guys. We catch lots of bass too.
I have all kinds of boats and listen to reports from anyone. Bank fisherman are typically fishing to feed themselves so they are who I ask the most.
WRB reply :
When someone asks me how I did at the dock while loading my boat I tell them what is working, rarely tell them exactly where. I have gone so far as to show other anglers my exact tackle and lures in an effort to share what is going on so they can enjoy catching a few bass. Who knows I may need someone's help someday so generally treat others like I want to be treated and shared lots of stuff on this site, there isn't any secrets.
Tom
roadwarrior reply :
This is the order of my priorities:
1. Depth
2. Cover/ Structure
3. Lure class: Soft plastics (bottom) or hard baits (moving)
4. Specific lures and colors
Quarry Man reply :
My brain is constatntly going 100mph on the water, and if you're fishing with me/youre my buddy, I will tell you everything I know and think of, bc TWO MINDS > ONE! On the other hand; if random people ask if I've caught any I say "a few here and there" and when they ask what bait, I say "a little bit of this, and a little bit of that"
this does change when other random anglers seem interested in swapping ideas, I will open up. If im not gonna catch em, I want you to catch em instead.
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