Where Would You..... 2024
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Fish if you could only fish 2 spots? Besides the shoals...
Jd_Phillips_Fishin reply :
The west point and the stretch by the ramp.
Ozark_Basser reply :
The west side jetties and the west side point with all the nooks and crannies.
jiggerpole reply :
I like the first irregular feature you come to north west of the dam all the way to the first north west pocket. The Island looks good to but it is probably a well hit target. More good features on the west bank for sure.
Jar11591 reply :
I would head right to the island and cove.
BASSPATROL247 reply :
I should have mentioned that theres a roadbed with a small bridge(whats left,they broke it all up and left it in place) where rainwood road used to be before impounding the lake..also 95% of the lake is lined with rip rap, wich the breakwaters are also made of.. interesting answers so far..
kikstand454 reply :
I was going to suggest that area where the old bridge was. ...before you told me it was an old bridge. Now i REALLY suggest it!! Lol. This time of year, I would concentrate on that bridge area, heading southeast along that break down to where 17' starts. If the countours are rugged enough to show up on this map. ....then in reality its probably full of offshore humps and structure.
C-rig, football jig, big worm, deep crank.
If the dam pulls water or you have any decent flow. .... I would make sure to see how the current is on the jetties in that area on both sides of the lake. Could be an awesome squarebill spot. ....
Ozark_Basser reply :
Are there shad in this lake?
WRB reply :
Lots of structure play with in this little lake.
I always like to start at the dam and work up the lake.
Right side of the dam you see a transition area that creates a pocket where the 7'-9' lines com together.
Left side of dam where Park road ends, jetty? Or water pump? Creates a rip rap break worth trying.
Major point across from the launch ramp, transition where steep bank starts to flatten at 5'-7'-9' and around the corner inside the 19' line the main lake basin starts to flatten out more, the same depth zone 5'-11' is worth while checking out.
Garvin road point end area has a few interesting looking breaks.
Underwater shoals look good.
Rainwood road bed looks good.
All the jetties appear to have drains running into deeper water, good areas!
What is at the top of this map? Good looking jetty and break lines into the upper main lake basin to check out.
My guess would be to determine if there is a summer thermocline and fish 2'-3' depth zone above the thermocline. If the lake has a aeration system, it may not develop a thermocline. Can't tell from a map what the cover is? So I would target transition areas with worms, jigs, crankbaits day and night.
Tom
RAMBLER reply :
Island on west side and the irregular shoreline around the Island; Jetties on east side
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Besides the roadbed wich is pretty much a levee thats 25ft across and is about 8ft below the surface on top with drops on either side and the shoals there is no real structure in the lake basin, its e renovated lake that was silted in bad so pretty much wat they did was was removed silt from around the shores to make the average depth deeper along with all the jetties,breakwaters,island and vegitation barriers and added the rip rap on the shorelines. Theres no thermocline in the lake...the dam has a small outlet structure on the sw corner of the dam but does not create any current, theres water going into it but its there to keep the lake at normal pool although it will get high for a couple days with good rains..On 6/18/2015 at 10:06 PM, kikstand454 said:I was going to suggest that area where the old bridge was. ...before you told me it was an old bridge. Now i REALLY suggest it!! Lol. This time of year, I would concentrate on that bridge area, heading southeast along that break down to where 17' starts. If the countours are rugged enough to show up on this map. ....then in reality its probably full of offshore humps and structure.
C-rig, football jig, big worm, deep crank.
If the dam pulls water or you have any decent flow. .... I would make sure to see how the current is on the jetties in that area on both sides of the lake. Could be an awesome squarebill spot. ....
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 6/18/2015 at 10:09 PM, Ozark_Basser said:Are there shad in this lake?
No shad....
BASSPATROL247 reply :
You can see the cover( trees) on google maps etc... glenn cunningham lake omaha nebraska just north of I-680. Cant miss it..
BASSPATROL247 reply :
I can tell everyone who has posted so far are very capable fisherman from responses from just a map...all areas are productive, very suprised though nobody has said anything about the creek east of the ramp by the campgrounds...
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Heres the whole lake...
cunningham.pdf
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Wrb is correct the jetties do have drainages/deep water right up to them for shore access for bank pounders...
WRB reply :
The map you attached doesn't show a creek inlet anywhere and the reason I wanted to see the north end.
It appears a creek may enter the NE corner? The camp ground may have a creek inlet, nothing on the map to indicate it, campers tend to be active in those areas.
The lake being silted in doesn't help the DO levels if the isn't an aeration system.
The outlet tower that I thought could be a pump house jetty should be a good spot.
Not interested enough in this lake to look at sat maps to determine cover.
As noted I would check for a thermocline, critical element to determine what depth to fish!
Without Shad, the shoreline structure and old road bed becomes primary areas to fish with crawdads using the man made rip rap structure and any isolated rock piles where transition zones are located is where I tend to fish. The little island would be of little interest because it's too obviuos and featureless bottom area from the map.
Good luck.
Tom
Catt reply :
Ok here what interests me
When I look at the boat launch area I see what appears to be an underwater point located just below the depths marked 13 & 15' of water.
Next area of interest woukd be slightly below the end of Rainwater Road.
Again there appears to be an underwater point, there is what I'll call 4 "circles", can't if they are rises or drops.
Just below that where it's marked 15' & where all dem lines run together.
Like to see all those on Down/Side Imaging 
scaleface reply :
A lake this shallow bass could be everywhere. I would certainly search the flats up north with a depth finder near the drop offs. Might even troll a crankbait .
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 6/19/2015 at 10:20 PM, WRB said:The map you attached doesn't show a creek inlet anywhere and the reason I wanted to see the north end.
It appears a creek may enter the NE corner? The camp ground may have a creek inlet, nothing on the map to indicate it, campers tend to be active in those areas.
The lake being silted in doesn't help the DO levels if the isn't an aeration system.
The outlet tower that I thought could be a pump house jetty should be a good spot.
Not interested enough in this lake to look at sat maps to determine cover.
As noted I would check for a thermocline, critical element to determine what depth to fish!
Without Shad, the shoreline structure and old road bed becomes primary areas to fish with crawdads using the man made rip rap structure and any isolated rock piles where transition zones are located is where I tend to fish. The little island would be of little interest because it's too obviuos and featureless bottom area from the map.
Good luck.
Tom
No thermocline in any lakes around here, and your right the island does not bear fruit 90% of the time, yrs creek feeds it from the nkrth end and the creek by campground has a small dam with a screen to keep carp and other invasives out wich failed..
WRB reply :
Nearly every lake that doesn't have a constant flow of water current running through it, or have strong aeration systems, will have a warmer upper water layer with cooler deeper water, where the temperature changes a few degrees within a few feet is a thermocline. Your lakes should have a thermocline during the summer months. Are water contact sports like paddle boarding or swimming allowed? You can feel the deeper cooler water.
My guess is a thermocline developes any time now about 2/3rds the average water depth (9'-12' in this lake) and getting more pronounced as the weather gets hotter in August, then turns over sometime in mid October depending on the weather.
If the inlet creeks run year around, they are a source of food, DO and other nutrients, are places where baitfish locate and predator bass.
Tom
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 6/20/2015 at 7:10 AM, WRB said:Nearly every lake that doesn't have a constant flow of water current running through it, or have strong aeration systems, will have a warmer upper water layer with cooler deeper water, where the temperature changes a few degrees within a few feet is a thermocline. Your lakes should have a thermocline during the summer months. Are water contact sports like paddle boarding or swimming allowed? You can feel the deeper cooler water.
My guess is a thermocline developes any time now about 2/3rds the average water depth (9'-12' in this lake) and getting more pronounced as the weather gets hotter in August, then turns over sometime in mid October depending on the weather.
If the inlet creeks run year around, they are a source of food, DO and other nutrients, are places where baitfish locate and predator bass.
Tom
According to our fisheries biologist there is no thermocline in this or other similar size/depth lakes in eastern nebraska..
Ozark_Basser reply :
On 6/19/2015 at 4:40 PM, BASSPATROL247 said:No shad....
Bluegill and crawfish are the main forage? Bass probably spend a lot of time up on the banks suspending out toward deeper water during the heat of the day and probably won't stray too far from their chosen area. I'd be paying attention more to visible cover than structure. That's where the food is.
WRB reply :
It doesn't matter where a lake is located; Florida, Texas, California or Nebraska, they all stratify into layers of water temperature....unless there is current to mix the water column. If your lake is wind swept or subjected to high winds strong enough to create current and mix the water weekly, it will develop a thermocline.
Meter the lake and determine if there is a life zone depth, bluegill or bass not suspending deeper than a certain depth.
Tom
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 6/21/2015 at 12:04 PM, Ozark_Basser said:Bluegill and crawfish are the main forage? Bass probably spend a lot of time up on the banks suspending out toward deeper water during the heat of the day and probably won't stray too far from their chosen area. I'd be paying attention more to visible cover than structure. That's where the food is.
Correct, yoy gills etc.. and crawdads would ne the main forage there. And i do focus on visible cover i.e rip rap trees etc...and i beleive they do stay in the general area like you say because ive caught the same fish in the same area on many occasions, i know because every fish i catch gets a pic and i enter it in a log i keep for future reference...
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 6/22/2015 at 4:36 AM, WRB said:It doesn't matter where a lake is located; Florida, Texas, California or Nebraska, they all stratify into layers of water temperature....unless there is current to mix the water column. If your lake is wind swept or subjected to high winds strong enough to create current and mix the water weekly, it will develop a thermocline.
Meter the lake and determine if there is a life zone depth, bluegill or bass not suspending deeper than a certain depth.
Tom
Theres different temps in the water column but there is no dead zone..i see fish from top to bottom all year in this and every other lake around here i promise you.
WRB reply :
Thermocline doesn't mean zero DO levels below it.
Whatever, fish top to bottom and enjoy your time on the water, it doesn't matter.
Your lake doesn't have a palegic prey population, it has a dermesal prey. Targeting the shoreline and bottom structure is what you need to do.
Tom
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 6/22/2015 at 11:29 AM, WRB said:Thermocline doesn't mean zero DO levels below it.
Whatever, fish top to bottom and enjoy your time on the water, it doesn't matter.
Your lake doesn't have a palegic prey population, it has a dermesal prey. Targeting the shoreline and bottom structure is what you need to do.
Tom
Im not trying to argue with you im just saying what our biologist has said many times on a local forum about thermoclines in our waters.. whats dermesal prey??? Does palegic mean schooling or roaming???
BassWhole! reply :
I want to go there with nothing but my crankbit boxes. I'd either idle around staring at the FF, or just park it along the old road and try to tear the lips off the CBs on the bottom...
BASSPATROL247 reply :
I like to fish the road with cranks or lipess cranks...
jtharris3 reply :
Does the north end of the lake have Lilly pads and grass or hydrilla?
BASSPATROL247 reply :
Lilly pads,weeds and grass. Theres also two siltation dams about 75 yds south of the bridge on the far north end, one on the west bank going east and one o, the east bank going west and they both meet in the middle but theyre not aligned so water and a boat can get through. Theyre basicly very narrow rock levees with the tops just below the surface at normal pool, shallow as heck up there but tons of cover..
Ozark_Basser reply :
Pelagic means roaming or open water. Shad are pelagic fish. If there is a lot of cover in the lake, I'd just look for the thickest cover possible during the day and pitch/cast a jig and work it real slow.
Where you live is probably past the post spawn by now and fish are moving into their summer patterns. If you time the post spawn right you could tear them up in those pads with a frog. It's probably been beaten to death though by now. Maybe grasslines or pad field edges next to deeper water would work.
NathanW reply :
If there is timber or docks on the cutbank accross from the ramp I would start on that. Fish love sitting right under the docks and timber in deep water this time of year around here. If the water is not real clear I would look for the same type of stuff up North on the East bank where it flattens out or head back into the creek where it flattens out.
Canyon explorer reply :
SW side of lake concentrating on the ledges around the big point , the brush around the fish dock and the sharp bend in the adjacent creek channel .Including all of the under water rock structure along the way.
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 6:16 AM, Ozark_Basser said:Pelagic means roaming or open water. Shad are pelagic fish. If there is a lot of cover in the lake, I'd just look for the thickest cover possible during the day and pitch/cast a jig and work it real slow.Where you live is probably past the post spawn by now and fish are moving into their summer patterns. If you time the post spawn right you could tear them up in those pads with a frog. It's probably been beaten to death though by now. Maybe grasslines or pad field edges next to deeper water would work.[/quote
Actually ive only seen one boat up there past the silt dams besides me since 08 or 09. Theres fish back there but only,time i fish it is when everything south of there is not doing anything..
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 6:28 AM, NathanW said:If there is timber or docks on the cutbank accross from the ramp I would start on that. Fish love sitting right under the docks and timber in deep water this time of year around here. If the water is not real clear I would look for the same type of stuff up North on the East bank where it flattens out or head back into the creek where it flattens out.
Just rocks across from the ramp and they only extend out about 10 ft and there its about 3-4 feet deep where the rock transition is..
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 6/25/2015 at 9:38 PM, Canyon explorer said:SW side of lake concentrating on the ledges around the big point , the brush around the fish dock and the sharp bend in the adjacent creek channel .Including all of the under water rock structure along the way.
You would do well my freind..
BASSPATROL247 reply :
On 7/1/2015 at 6:58 PM, BASSPATROL247 said:On 6/25/2015 at 6:16 AM, Ozark_Basser said:Pelagic means roaming or open water. Shad are pelagic fish. If there is a lot of cover in the lake, I'd just look for the thickest cover possible during the day and pitch/cast a jig and work it real slow.Where you live is probably past the post spawn by now and fish are moving into their summer patterns. If you time the post spawn right you could tear them up in those pads with a frog. It's probably been beaten to death though by now. Maybe grasslines or pad field edges next to deeper water would work.[/quote
Actually ive only seen one boat up there past the silt dams besides me since 08 or 09. Theres fish back there but only,time i fish it is when everything south of there is not doing anything..
Yes they r past post spawn and doing theyre summer thing now.
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