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Theories on Moon Effects on Bass. 2024


fishing user avatarD.Cox reply : 

Got to fish Patrick Henry Lake  in TN from 7 PM-3AM the last 2 Fridy nights. Last Friday night the Spinnerbait bite was great with the full moon. We caught a lot of smallmouth between 15-17 ¾ on spinner baits but had only one keeper that was 18 inches.  The large mouth, hit a black buzzbait good late in the night and several others that had good fish came on a buzzbait.  The jig bite did not happen at all last weekend. We finished 2 nd in this event with a lot of limits.

This weekend was completely different , the Jig bite started off good, had 2 keeper largemouth  before dark, then it slowed til 10 pm. Caught a 19 inch Smallmouth on a jig. She was big fish for the event.  I only caught small large mouth on the spinnerbait and buzzbaits and all were less than 12 inches.  We caught one more largemouth on a jig and caught 2 keepers on a worm.  We finished 1st in this event. We had about the same wieght, but caught different ways.

The water level were the same, water temp- same, water generations- same and weather: calm clear skys, the only difference was the moon.

Do any of  you have any ideas why the moon makes these nights so different?


fishing user avatarShawn OConnor reply : 

3 days before and 3 after are always the best fishing.  It's seemed to work every time I'm out.


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

The only difference was when the moon was rising & setting but I seriously doubt the moon caused the bass to prefer one lure over another.


fishing user avatarJeff C. reply : 

Dow,

a lot of guys swear by the moon cycle..

your tourneys run through the nite, ? during the dark ?

just heading out now,,5:30 am to try out your new football jig,


fishing user avatarD.Cox reply : 

My thoughts on what happens and why. About 10 years ago, I had a 55 gallon fish tank and started catching crawdads from different lakes and watching them. I had 3 different types and up to 6 in the tank. They were in the tank for 2 years and I did observe that during the few days before and after the full moon was their most active time.  They would come out of the rocks and move around the tank. The only other time they were this active was when they were fed with fish food. I would notice that during peak lunar times some crawfish would come out of their hiding place and roam around, but not always.  For example, during peak times in the day they would be at the top of the holes or entrance, you could see the antennas but during non peak times they were not visible at all.

This is why I assume that during the full moon, plus or minus 3 days that the bait are more active and as a result, the bass are more conditioned to chase a faster moving lure.

I have also noticed that the shad will spawn on a full moon, but I think most of the shad have finished spawning  here; we have thread fin, gizzard shad and alwie.


fishing user avatarburleytog reply : 
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jig bite did not happen at all last weekend.

They started biting the jig after you guys left.  We got into them on the spinnerbait early (we blasted off at 5AM), then once it got light, the jig was king.

I've noticed on Boone that they seem to bite a little better leading up to the full moon.  Two weeks ago they were on.  This weekend, couldn't buy a keeper in any of my spots.

You fishing with Bloomingdale?


fishing user avataravid reply : 

I have had great days and lousy days on all phases of the moon.  But I do have one belief about moon phase and bass fishing.

I don't seem to do well on DAYS when the moon is full.

I've been told that because of the bright light the bass feed all night, and this may be true, but with some notable exceptions I find the bite is slower during day time fishing when the moon is full.


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

While I agree the moon has an effect on bass I just don't believe the moon caused the bass to prefer one lure over another.

I pay more attention to when the moon rises & sets than I do to the actual phase  ;)


fishing user avatarBassnajr reply : 

I personally don't think you should moon any one while fishing.....


fishing user avatarTin reply : 

It makes a difference for one thing, the spawn. After that, I have never seen a pattern that would make it influence fishing one way or the other.


fishing user avatarPaul Roberts reply : 

Just don't know yet.


fishing user avatarhookset on 3 reply : 
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3 days before and 3 after are always the best fishing. It's seemed to work every time I'm out.

I agree with Shawn. I've been bassin' for almost 40 years and have definitely seen more heightened activity for bigger bass during these times. i fish almost every day and keep a log of my fishing success.

hookset


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

The solunar table/ moon phase affects are ongoing debates.

http://fishlab.nres.uiuc.edu/Documents/FME%202008.pdf is one study report that is contrary to commonly held belief that moon phases affects bass behavior.

My observations over a lifetime experience supports the 5 day period around the full moon; 2 days before, full and 2 days after being more active feeding periods, during the pre spawn and summer periods.

Reason; increased light allows sight feeding fish like bass to be more successful catching prey during the full moon cycle. Bass are very active during pre spawn and summer nights. The balance of the year, not sure and haven't noticed any pattern, except spawning cycles starting around the same full moon cycles.

WRB


fishing user avatarGeorge Welcome reply : 

If you want to know if a full moon increases night fishing than check some of the scientific studies of light penetration on a full moon into perfectly clear water. You might be surprised at just how much or how little the effect truly is.

If the water level isn't tidal controlled, the moon doesn't affect bass. Of course since this is an animal that lives by no rules you might find it controlling your situation immensely.


fishing user avatarMuddy reply : 
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I personally don't think you should moon any one while fishing.....

 OH YEA??? :D

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fishing user avatarABLE2DISABLE1 reply : 

The Rise is better for me, then the fall is just great, but not during the phase of the sun or moon period.Monthly peaks in both full and new moon are a factor definitely, Worth it.Bad weather prolonged conditions, open small windows, 3/4hrs. of fishing. Fish the daily rise or set, of the SUN or MOONs key phases is paramount, (to me).Legitimate fact that weather helps elevate daily on sun and moon, rise or set as well.Also Elevates the Possibilities of landing that DREAM.All phases creates active movement of big fish, we just have to find them.Ooo, during a GOOD Photoperiod, LIGHTS OUT.It has it,s ups and down just like any other thing we try to do, just keep at it and you will find what works under what period you fish.


fishing user avatarGeorge Welcome reply : 
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I personally don't think you should moon any one while fishing.....

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OH YEA??? :D

I ain't never gonna fish no more! :'(


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

Thank God that's not a full moon ;)

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fishing user avatarMatt Fly reply : 

Like mentioned, if its not tidal, then tides don't come into play in our neck of the woods so far inland.

If I was trying to hit the spawn, I'd try to plan on the full and new moon periods.

 But always remember, lunar charts are written years in advance, and they can't predict weather and if the clouds will have the moon covered all night.

    Other than trying to plan hitting peak spawn periods, I go fish when I can.  


fishing user avatarCmacFL reply : 

3 days after the full moon and 3 days before like Shawn said is golden.  I'm talking day fishing, never fish that much at night.  But also another post is on track too.  Dark dark nights with no stars or moon, heavy clouds even is great for fishing the next day.  The fish can't see anything on dark dark nights.  Check the stars :).  Dark night= good day of fishing next day.  


fishing user avatarShawn OConnor reply : 

No, it's there is no tidal effect if you are on a lake.  Obviously though, the moon has a impact on the gravitational forces.  Does that mean it gets the bait fish moving?  Not sure.  I promise you though, with the right weather conditions on the evening (before dark) of the full moon, it's the best fishing.  Proved that on the finger lakes of NY with this beast.  

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fishing user avatarShawn OConnor reply : 

Oh ya, and this one in NC in March this year.  :)

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fishing user avatarD.Cox reply : 

Thanks for the input everyone. Now, I have a lot more things to think about. And, after 25 years of fishing, the more I think I learn about fish, the more I realize that I do not understand why fish do what they do. I just like to catch them!

Burley, yes I was fishing the Bloomingdale club.

Avid, I have noticed the same in the deep south ,(TN, SC, AL, GA, FL, TX), If it is bright at night in water above 55 deg, the morning bite will be slow and pickup in the afternoon.

Cat, I have not thought about the moon rise and set, but I will pay more attention now.

WRB, thanks for the link, interesting, would like to see study like this one on Guntersville!

Matt, I was looking at my fishing logs, I was fishing Boone about 12 years ago. This lake is a highland reservoir controlled by the TVA by a dam for producing power. The water temp was in the 82-84, clear water and I had been catching Stripe bass before the ski boats started around 10 am. I started before daylight and at 9:30 the fish started schooling, and I caught several. The next day they started schooling around 10:30 and I caught them again for about 45 minutes. Both times the moon was directly overhead.

Just something else to think about.


fishing user avatarBassnajr reply : 

Nice crescent moon Mud!!!!!!

Now I have to fish 3 days after THAT!!!!!!  ;D ;D


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 

Deer are nocturnal, and during nights with a full or gibbous moon, deer hunting always bites-the-bag.

On moonlit nights, deer are already bedded down before I'm posted on my morning stand.

In the evening, the deer won't move into the fields until after dark (after legal hunting hours).

Bass are primarily diurnal, nonetheless I'm sure that moonlit nights have a significant affect on their dining schedule.

I've never believed that the connection is celestial however, but due simply to lighting conditions.

That is to say, full and gibbous moons would have no effect on bass fishing during night skies with heavy overcast.

Roger


fishing user avatarPaul Roberts reply : 

The problem I have with a lot of fishing theories is the number of confounding factors that enter in when trying to identify and understand fish behavior, or presentation issues -much less both combined.

I have not ruled out lunar effects, and have spent some time dabbling in trying to figure that out -for starters by completely removing one big bunch of mush -the fishing -and looking at behavior only. But as controlled as I've attempted to make it -nature rears her head and confounds the issue.

Considering that those "prime" moon phase periods occupy chunks of a rather short lunar month, and then how much sampling effort is actually done by any one angler (how many full moons without clouds for example), makes me strongly suspect that stated definite conclusions are statistically weak at very best (putting it nicely).

Plus, how many are willing to rigorously test the alternative (null) hypothesis? Equal effort on non-period nights -with and without clouds. ...etc ...

There are moon theories involving every phase and position of the moon purported by impressively experienced anglers. They can't all be right concerning fish behavior.

Concerning the issue of all the confounding variables involved, I'll quote one experienced angler, Buck Perry:

"One thing I've learned after a lifetime of fishing and observing -I have not found any shortcuts to success, such as finding a single key as to when fish move. There are just too many variables in every category. To my way of thinking, no such key will ever be found -especially in the movements of the moon."


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

Bass activity is cyclical during every 24 hour period. Activity changes due to several factors; weather, boat traffic and seasonal periods.

When the conditions are ideal, bass activity peaks.

It has been my observation that peak periods occur on a regular schedule, timing that schedule requires a lot of time on the water to figure out. If the active period occurs during a full moon cycle, with the moon at 12 o'clock, then you tend to believe that a full moon is good time.

Remember that the moon can be over head during the day time as well as night, in regards to gravity affects.

WRB


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 

There are variables that are in your control, you can modify them; there are other variables that are out of your control, you can 't modify them, you can 't change the moon phase, you can 't change the weather, you can 'change the water temperature, you can 't control current, you can 't control water clarity, the list is long, there 's absolutely nothing that you can do about them other than adaptaing the variables that are under control to fit those variables you can 't control, there are no shure shortcuts, the difference between success and failure depend on your ability to adapt, learn to play with the cards mother nature has dealt you for that day.

Based upon those principles and given the fact that I 'm not able to go whenever I want but when I can I 'm not going to wait until the variables I can 't control are in optimum level all I can do is adapt to them.


fishing user avatarMuddy reply : 

Can someone explain that most of the big bass on the ESPN top 20, were caught after the noon hour,and at all different times of the month The one constant that sticks out is that most of them are related to the Spawning activity> But then again , I didn't spend a lot of years studying the moon, but I really would like to see the data.

I am not a monster hunter or professional angler, not even close, just a mook content in taking a lot of medium size fish, and I do well no matter what day I go out.


fishing user avatarFishing Rhino reply : 
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Nice crescent moon Mud!!!!!!

Now I have to fish 3 days after THAT!!!!!! ;D ;D

That was no moon.  Just a typical Muddy wise crack.


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

I can speak for myself. The majority of the giant bass are caught during the pre spawn or staging period and during the spawn when they are most less wary or feeding prior to moving up into shallow water.

Because I believe the moon phase affect spawning activity, it also affects the pre spawn. I spend every day possible fishing the pre spawn that last about 45 days where I fish; early February to mid March, most years. During that time period it's possible to have 2 full moon cycles, 1 every 28 days, depending on the February cycle. The 5 days of each of those cycles I'm on the water. The odds are that is when I catch my big bass and most other trophy bass fishermen are doing the same thing. Is it the moon phase or the belief in the moon phase? take your pick.

WRB


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 
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There are variables that are in your control, you can modify them; there are other variables that are out of your control, you can 't modify them, you can 't change the moon phase, you can 't change the weather, you can 'change the water temperature, you can 't control current, you can 't control water clarity, the list is long, there 's absolutely nothing that you can do about them other than adaptaing the variables that are under control to fit those variables you can 't control, there are no shure shortcuts, the difference between success and failure depend on your ability to adapt, learn to play with the cards mother nature has dealt you for that day.

Based upon those principles and given the fact that I 'm not able to go whenever I want but when I can I 'm not going to wait until the variables I can 't control are in optimum level all I can do is adapt to them.

That my friend is the answer, moon phase is only one element of the equation and no single element is stand alone.

My #1 question is can I go and if the answer is yes then I go ;)


fishing user avatarPaul Roberts reply : 
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There are variables that are in your control, you can modify them; there are other variables that are out of your control, you can 't modify them, you can 't change the moon phase, you can 't change the weather, you can 'change the water temperature, you can 't control current, you can 't control water clarity, the list is long, there 's absolutely nothing that you can do about them other than adaptaing the variables that are under control to fit those variables you can 't control, there are no shure shortcuts, the difference between success and failure depend on your ability to adapt, learn to play with the cards mother nature has dealt you for that day.

Based upon those principles and given the fact that I 'm not able to go whenever I want but when I can I 'm not going to wait until the variables I can 't control are in optimum level all I can do is adapt to them.

Ditto. That's 'percentage fishing', what every angler comes to. You work with the hand you're dealt, and counter by tipping odds (every one in your arsenal of controls) in your favor.

Going back to Buck Perry's comment

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"One thing I've learned after a lifetime of fishing and observing -I have not found any shortcuts to success, such as finding a single key as to when fish move. There are just too many variables in every category. To my way of thinking, no such key will ever be found ..."

He's right, in the large scale (many waters over the course of the seasons), but as WRB mentions, and Buck also mentions elsewhere in a similar way, patterns of behavior can be found, but they rarely hold up for days on end.

Some years (not this one :( ) I've had the opportunity to plan my fishing days ahead. I pick days based on basic questions, and am chipping away at those questions. I am seeing patterns. The patterns I've recognized have been related to immediate conditions (sky and water mostly -in many forms). Once you've seen enough of these things you can start to see, and look for, similar things on any day.

As for the moon:

WRB wrote:

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The odds are that is when I catch my big bass and most other trophy bass fishermen are doing the same thing. Is it the moon phase or the belief in the moon phase? take your pick.

That's the question. Now how to tease out the answer -if there really is one there to be found. I've not dropped that bone yet. I'm still very much intrigued.


fishing user avatarPaul Roberts reply : 
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Can someone explain that most of the big bass on the ESPN top 20, were caught after the noon hour,and at all different times of the month The one constant that sticks out is that most of them are related to the Spawning activity> But then again , I didn't spend a lot of years studying the moon, but I really would like to see the data.

I am not a monster hunter or professional angler, not even close, just a mook content in taking a lot of medium size fish, and I do well no matter what day I go out.

Muddy, I'm seeing that pattern too (the mid-day bite -if that's what you mean), elsewhere (don't know what the ESPN top 20 is). We had a thread on that a while back. May have to do with lighting and food chain behavior. Not sure what to think of that yet.


fishing user avatarroadwarrior reply : 

We have a number of members that belong to the

"Noon O'Clock Club", including me! 10-2 is the broader

range, but might require a little adjustment for daylight

savings time... :D

One theory is Maximum Light Penetration. Light stimulates

plankton growth which may cause more baitfish activity

and lead to greater predation at the top of the food chain.

At any rate, "noonish" is big bass time!

8-)


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

With 105-115 heat indexes I don't do that "Noon O'clock Club" no more ;)


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 
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With 105-115 heat indexes I don't do that "Noon O'clock Club" no more ;)

Chicken.  ;)


fishing user avatarShawn OConnor reply : 

Doesn't light penetration also have an impact on water temperature?  Therefor the water being warmer and the fish being less active?  

I've only had luck in the middle of the day a few times... only around the full moon.  :)


fishing user avatarShawn OConnor reply : 
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Going back to Buck Perry's comment

"One thing I've learned after a lifetime of fishing and observing -I have not found any shortcuts to success, such as finding a single key as to when fish move. There are just too many variables in every category. To my way of thinking, no such key will ever be found ..."

He's right, in the large scale (many waters over the course of the seasons), but as WRB mentions, and Buck also mentions elsewhere in a similar way, patterns of behavior can be found, but they rarely hold up for days on end.

Don't tell Wayne P that. He consistently goes to lakes in the Central VA region and catches 40-100 Bass every time he goes. I've tried to debate him on in but several other people have shot me down. I'm in agreement though, the factors aren't likely to be identical every time. Not saying it's not possible, just unlikely.


fishing user avatarRoLo reply : 

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We have a number of members that belong to the

"Noon O'Clock Club", including me! 10-2 is the broader

range, but might require a little adjustment for daylight

savings time... :D

One theory is Maximum Light Penetration. Light stimulates

plankton growth which may cause more baitfish activity

and lead to greater predation at the top of the food chain.

At any rate, "noonish" is big bass time!

8-)

As a charter member of the "Noon O'clock Club",

I rarely get an early start anymore, but I'm typically on the water throughout the noonish timeslot and luv'n it.

The plankton hypothesis is very plausible.

In addition, I believe the enhanced vision during midday is another credible theory.

While young bass tend to exploit their rod-and-cone vision over preyfish by feeding during twilight (dawn & dusk),

mature bass seem to exploit the enhanced vision afforded by maximal light levels (10am to 3pm).

A third possibility, especially during the cooler months are gradually rising water temperatures, which can never hurt.

Roger


fishing user avatarPaul Roberts reply : 
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Going back to Buck Perry's comment

"One thing I've learned after a lifetime of fishing and observing -I have not found any shortcuts to success, such as finding a single key as to when fish move. There are just too many variables in every category. To my way of thinking, no such key will ever be found ..."

He's right, in the large scale (many waters over the course of the seasons), but as WRB mentions, and Buck also mentions elsewhere in a similar way, patterns of behavior can be found, but they rarely hold up for days on end.

Don't tell Wayne P that. He consistently goes to lakes in the Central VA region and catches 40-100 Bass every time he goes. I've tried to debate him on in but several other people have shot me down. I'm in agreement though, the factors aren't likely to be identical every time. Not saying it's not possible, just unlikely.

From what I know of Wayne -he really knows his stuff. Doubt he has any need to BS, and takes his lumps on occasion like everyone else. Let's not get into bashing people and close down a good thread.


fishing user avatarPaul Roberts reply : 
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We have a number of members that belong to the

"Noon O'Clock Club", including me! 10-2 is the broader

range, but might require a little adjustment for daylight

savings time... :D

One theory is Maximum Light Penetration. Light stimulates

plankton growth which may cause more baitfish activity

and lead to greater predation at the top of the food chain.

At any rate, "noonish" is big bass time!

8-)

As a charter member of the "Noon O'clock Club",

I rarely get an early start anymore, but I'm typically on the water throughout the noonish timeslot and luv'n it.

The plankton hypothesis is very plausible.

In addition, I believe the enhanced vision during midday is another credible theory.

While young bass tend to exploit their rod-and-cone vision over preyfish by feeding during twilight (dawn & dusk),

mature bass seem to exploit the enhanced vision afforded by maximal light levels (10am to 3pm).

A third possibility, especially during the cooler months are gradually rising water temperatures, which can never hurt.

Roger

The light penetration part flies in the face of a key presentation issue -too much of a good thing. I've been circling the temperature increase thing for quite some time now. I believe it's very real.

But... that doesn't explain the fact that this is a deep water phenomenon too -maybe more consistently than the shallow bite -which can be confounded by excessive temps in summer (see Roger's other post in the 'Unstable weather post').

There appears to be something going on there -just not sure yet what it is.

Not sure if others agree but I see this most obviously in open water, not so much in heavily vegetated waters -although this could be due to temps in the densely vegetated shallows.

In some waters, (big reservoirs) it's been attributed to shad behavior. But I've seen it with perch (as forage) too. Visibility seems to be the obvious thing. Doug Hannon claims this is the primary reason.

Anyway...wasn't this a moon thread? lol Start at the moon and end up on Earth. Can't be helped.  ;D


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 
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We have a number of members that belong to the

"Noon O'Clock Club", including me! 10-2 is the broader

range, but might require a little adjustment for daylight

savings time... :D

One theory is Maximum Light Penetration. Light stimulates

plankton growth which may cause more baitfish activity

and lead to greater predation at the top of the food chain.

At any rate, "noonish" is big bass time!

8-)

One reason big bass are caught during the spawning season between 10 and 2 is optimal sight fishing conditions when the sun is over head or slightly behind your position. Nothing to do with feeding patterns, poor light is to the basses advantage during spawn. The vast majority of giant bass are caught during the spawn by sight fishermen, most of the other big bass are caught during low light conditions, light rain being optimal, during the pre spawn, advantage to the fisherman.

WRB


fishing user avatarMuddy reply : 
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With 105-115 heat indexes I don't do that "Noon O'clock Club" no more ;)

Chicken. ;)

ROASTER...OLD CHICKEN ;D


fishing user avatarRaul reply : 
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With 105-115 heat indexes I don't do that "Noon O'clock Club" no more ;)

Chicken. ;)

ROASTER...OLD CHICKEN ;D

Well, Catt is older than me, maybe he has ben ROASTED more times that I with those heat indexes..  ;)

On the other hand, about Wayne catching 40-100 fish on every outing, man I have no reason to doubt about those numbers, let 's say that you catch a fish in 5 minutes, that makes 12 fish per hour, summer time fishing trip beginning at dawn and ending at dusk in my neck of the woods is about 12 hours fishing, 12 x 12 =144 possible fish, not BSing but I 've been fishing a small lake since Dec last year where catching a fish every 5 minutes is a reality, Lil Raul loves going to that small lake because he catches fish one after another, practically have to drag the kid for a couple of hours lunch break, if it were for him he wouldn 't have lunch.


fishing user avatarCatt reply : 

I'm not as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was ;)

My records indicate nights have produced more and bigger bass than during the daylight. During daylight overcast conditions has always out produced sunny conditions hands down.


fishing user avatarPaul Roberts reply : 
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I'm not as good as I once was but I'm as good once as I ever was ;)

My records indicate nights have produced more and bigger bass than during the daylight. During daylight overcast conditions has always out produced sunny conditions hands down.

That's my general understanding too.

Ralph Manns did a catch data study (his and friends tournament data) and could not find a mid-day bite statistically. He then looked at large bass (thinking of Hannon's ideas on it) and still found nothing there. This was catch data from TX. Might be different farther north (??).


fishing user avatarShawn OConnor reply : 
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Going back to Buck Perry's comment

"One thing I've learned after a lifetime of fishing and observing -I have not found any shortcuts to success, such as finding a single key as to when fish move. There are just too many variables in every category. To my way of thinking, no such key will ever be found ..."

He's right, in the large scale (many waters over the course of the seasons), but as WRB mentions, and Buck also mentions elsewhere in a similar way, patterns of behavior can be found, but they rarely hold up for days on end.

Don't tell Wayne P that. He consistently goes to lakes in the Central VA region and catches 40-100 Bass every time he goes. I've tried to debate him on in but several other people have shot me down. I'm in agreement though, the factors aren't likely to be identical every time. Not saying it's not possible, just unlikely.

From what I know of Wayne -he really knows his stuff. Doubt he has any need to BS, and takes his lumps on occasion like everyone else. Let's not get into bashing people and close down a good thread.

My point is I was proven wrong because many other people have agreed with him and have seen him do it.  Agreed, he knows his stuff.  So to say there are to many variables is not necessarily correct when someone can figure them out.  Not bashing at all, you took it the wrong way.  


fishing user avatarWRB reply : 

It's been my experience once you can determine a particular big bass pattern on one lake, the daily rhythm of that pattern changes each day for a few days then changes completely or vanishes. There are days that bass don't react to any presentation anywhere on the lake. If someone claims they can catch good size or large numbers of bass every time out on the water, then questioning that claim is reasonable.

I don't know of any bass fisherman who fishes a lot that doesn't blank occasionally. Some days it's just not right for you and nothing works, other days you are a genius and can't do anything wrong.

We can praise the moon phase for good days and blame it for bad days, the truth lies somewhere within.

WRB


fishing user avatarMuddy reply : 

Fishermen, Truth  


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Going back to Buck Perry's comment

"One thing I've learned after a lifetime of fishing and observing -I have not found any shortcuts to success, such as finding a single key as to when fish move. There are just too many variables in every category. To my way of thinking, no such key will ever be found ..."

He's right, in the large scale (many waters over the course of the seasons), but as WRB mentions, and Buck also mentions elsewhere in a similar way, patterns of behavior can be found, but they rarely hold up for days on end.

Don't tell Wayne P that. He consistently goes to lakes in the Central VA region and catches 40-100 Bass every time he goes. I've tried to debate him on in but several other people have shot me down. I'm in agreement though, the factors aren't likely to be identical every time. Not saying it's not possible, just unlikely.

From what I know of Wayne -he really knows his stuff. Doubt he has any need to BS, and takes his lumps on occasion like everyone else. Let's not get into bashing people and close down a good thread.

My point is I was proven wrong because many other people have agreed with him and have seen him do it. Agreed, he knows his stuff. So to say there are to many variables is not necessarily correct when someone can figure them out. Not bashing at all, you took it the wrong way.

I see. I actually meant that Wayne usually catches 140-200 bass a day. To say he doesn't break 100 is an insult. ;D

Seriously, my guess is there are waters with the populations that can support that kind of catch rate, on some days. My other guess is that Wayne does not do this on every water he fishes, and has his tough days too. From what I hear Guntersville is crankin' 'em out. What's a great day on Guntersville now? What's a poor day?

Some of the ponds I fish don't even have 40 mature bass in 'em! ;D

But this is kind of off topic. Perry's comment was that there is no single factor controlling fish behavior, including the moon phase. I think people like to gravitate to a simple answers. KISS doesn't mean ignore weather and water conditions, or possibly moon phase in certain circumstances.

If Wayne has it all figured out -can realize 40+ bass on every trip on every water through all conditions, he needs to step up and put us all out of our misery.




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