Jbmaine asked the question; does it look funny to wear a wide brim hat and put on sun screen?
A friend of mine was the late Bill Murphy, author of "In pursuit of Giant Bass". Bill died of skin cancer from sun exposure.
I'm not too far behind Bill and must wear those funny looking hats with the wide brim and neck shades, clothing with SPT 30 rating and good water proof sun screen, zinc oxide based.
SPF rated clothing is expensive; Solumbra, SunDays and Lands End are a few good brands. Sunscreens; SolBar Zinc SPF38 used on the face around my eyes, SolBar SPF 50 for general use. BullFrog is another brand that is popular out west.
I have gotten over the funny look when wearing my hats and long sleeve shirts in hot weather. Sun damage to your skin is accumulative and not reversible.
WRB
All you need do is look at the hands and necks of pro golfers to see what the sun can do.
Turns them into prunes.
The more protection, the better.
This past Sunday was the first time I wore long pants and a long sleeved shirt while fishing in the middle of the summer. Both were made by Columbia and offered an SPF of 30 if I am not mistaken. I was amazed at how relatively cool I felt compared to wearing shorts and a short sleeved shirt.
I and most of my friends all wear a fairly broad brimmed hat on the water in the summer. I especially like my Tilley hat. Even with the hat I wear sunscreen.
i work on the water, 6 days a week while im off from college. im exposed to sun all day long. my uncle also worked on the water for 20 years or so, no he paints houses, so he has been in the sun all his life.......and at 55 years old e time with skin cancer. every couple months he had to go get something removed, and has had some close calls with melonoma cancers. so i where a hat, and slather down with spf 50 everyday. id rather live a while and look silly than die young from looking "cool".
I'm not afraid of wearing goofy hats and sunscreen at the same time.
Pic below is me fighting a 150 Lb. Tarpon in Cost Rica.
QuoteJbmaine asked the question; does it look funny to wear a wide brim hat and put on sun screen?A friend of mine was the late Bill Murphy, author of "In pursuit of Giant Bass". Bill died of skin cancer from sun exposure.
I'm not too far behind Bill and must wear those funny looking hats with the wide brim and neck shades, clothing with SPT 30 rating and good water proof sun screen, zinc oxide based.
SPF rated clothing is expensive; Solumbra, SunDays and Lands End are a few good brands. Sunscreens; SolBar Zinc SPF38 used on the face around my eyes, SolBar SPF 50 for general use. BullFrog is another brand that is popular out west.
I have gotten over the funny look when wearing my hats and long sleeve shirts in hot weather. Sun damage to your skin is accumulative and not reversible.
WRB
Funny looks?
Try wearing a full faced buff when fishing fresh water. Guys look at us like we are crazy.
Long sleeved shirts, buff, sunglasses, hat pulled low.
Buff blocks out 99% of UV radiation.
QuoteI'm not afraid of wearing goofy hats and sunscreen at the same time.Pic below is me fighting a 150 Lb. Tarpon in Cost Rica.
Nice fish!!!
Man i will wear a sombrero and 80p if it means NO skin cancer!!!!!!!!!
Well having red hair (still have some left but mostly gray/white) and blue eyes, I have the most sun sensitive skin type. I don't tan well and burn very well. I apply SPF 30-70 sunscreen when I am going to be outdoors for other than a short time. I also use the Columbia SPF rated shirts, one of their wide brimmed hats (sometimes), and their slacks (sometimes). All my life I have been involved in outdoor sports ( hunting, fishing, golf, skiing, etc) and now I have to see a dermatologist every 3 months to get pre-cancer spots frozen or cut off (occasonally some are cancer). My numerous freckles are just about equaled by white scars from those removals. Waterproof, oiless, Coppertone is the brand of sunscreen I use. 40-60 years ago it was not a concern by many, but should have been.
I love my Tilley hat. I think I look pretty good in it too, compared to some other hats.
SPF 50 on my hands and legs, wide brim columbia hat, either long sleeve white tee or long sleeve columbia shirt, wiley x jake glasses. I don't care what I look like when its a 100 degrees like yesterday.
I'm still in a ball cap most days but do load the sunscreen on my ears/face/neck.
Most people find it hard to believe that a good fishing shirt in long sleeve is cooler than a t-shirt in the blistering heat. People ask me all the time, aren't you burning up? I say nope, probably cooler than you. The technical fabrics available these days are worth every penny! Not to mention they last. I have a couple orvis shirts that I bought before I got married... that was 8 yrs ago and they are still worn every week. Although, they are starting to shrink in the middle! ;D
i admittedly go out many times wearing no shirt, and subsequently get alot of sun........(the FL heat gets plain NASTY at times)
but, i know i cant do this all the time.......
in my truck i always have coppertone sport spray 50 SPF, and coppertone "faces" 50 SPF...... a large hat, and my costa's (i always wear those though).....
never hesitate once to throw down on the sun protection..... its a must... who cares what others think.
QuotePosted by: Dink whisperer Posted on: Today at 5:01pmMan i will wear a sombrero and 80p if it means NO skin cancer!!!!!!!!!
and DinkWhisperer......
that was great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
I'd rather look goofy with a hat than cool in the coffin. As much as I enjoy peeling large clumps of dead skin off, I hate having a sunburn. >
The heat is really setting in around here. It was 95* today and forcast to be above that the next several days.
Time to re-up on the Gold Bond! ;D
After 30 years working on the water and now spending a good bit of time playing on the water, going bare back in the sun is NOT an option. Quality Sunglasses, Sunscreen and a Boonie hat are standard equipment. On the opposite end of the spectrum, the summer time pre-dawn and early morning air temperatures here in the North Woods are often in the low 40's. This last week there were 2 mornings that were 38/39 degrees at 5 am. So it could be easy to forget the Coppertone after you just pulled on Under Armor and a Hoodie !
A-Jay
Fish at night, don't worry about the sun.
It's my understanding that you don't just have to worry about the rays coming down, but the ones reflecting off the water. So just wearing a hat isn't going to do it. I believe this is true because I have gotten way worse sun burns while on the water or snow skiiing than I have in a similar amount of time if not around a reflective surface.
Now I wear a wide brimmed hat and 50 SPF (re-applied every couple of hours).
IMHO A long sleeve shirt and pants made of coolmax or some kind of spf protection are way cooler, If I am on the river or Delta all day, I am am much cooler with these clothes on. A wide brimmed hat is a must!! Lots of sunscreen on the ears, neck, face, tops of hands and tops of feet if wearing sandals. Being red headed I am an expert on sunburn. I have not been sunburned significantly in the last 20 years. A friend of mine just got some skin cancer cut out of her nose and ended up with 50 stitches. She has red hair and did not use sun screen but is using it now and preaching at others to use it.
Nice fish! 8-)
Neutrogena makes suncreen that is 85 SPF. It's not greasy like a lot of suncreens, you can't even tell it's there. The thing I like about it is that it doesn't run down into your eyes when you sweat. I talked to guy one time who said he had a little skin cancer on his ear he was getting ready to have removed. I could see a little spot on his ear, then he showed me the back side of his ear, it looked like it was about to rot off. Now sunscreen goes everywhere.
I use both, including long sleeves and generally light clothing. Here's what we look like when we venture forth:
I use skincueticals sunblock, recomended by my dermatologist. It is UVA/UVB rated with a higher blocking additive than what you can get over the counter. I get skin cancers cut off every 6 months, but I catch the differences in freckles very quickly, so the area removed is very small. (sooner gone, smaller scar)
I constantly re-apply, wear good fishing shirts, and finally found a cap with wide brimmed bill and neck flap.
Yep, wide brim hat, sunscreen and long pants. I need to wear better sunglasses.
When I was about 13 with my Dad and a guide in Panacea Florida, we were coming out the bay into open gulf when the guide said, "Boy, do you see a red bouy out there?" I said, "You mean the one about 200 feet away, tall as a house, off to our right?" He goes, "Yeah, I'm kinda sun blind from all the years on the water." Wow, I'd hate to loose my vision, too many pretty things to look at!
QuoteNeutrogena makes suncreen that is 85 SPF. It's not greasy like a lot of suncreens, you can't even tell it's there. The thing I like about it is that it doesn't run down into your eyes when you sweat. I talked to guy one time who said he had a little skin cancer on his ear he was getting ready to have removed. I could see a little spot on his ear, then he showed me the back side of his ear, it looked like it was about to rot off. Now sunscreen goes everywhere.
Tried the SPF 85, same product as the SPF 55, and it wasn't water proof or resistant and it really stung my eyes and had to wash it off. Good product for general use, other than my face.
Glad to read that so many fishermen are using sunscreens and wearing good hats. It may be too late when cancer or pre cancers start to show up, the younger you start, the better off you will be.
WRB
I ALWAYS wear at least some heavy duty sunscreen when I head outdoors. If I know I'll be outside for an extended period of time I'll most definitely wear a hat. I prefer using my old army boonie style hat, some good comfortable light shorts, and usually a long sleeved shirt of some kind. I hate seeing the tan lines that some people get with a regular baseball cap on. I shave my head once every two days so I need all the protection that I can get. Whenever lobster season comes around is when I go really overboard with sunscreen on my back (I hate diving with a shirt on). I'm still hoping that I'll find a sunscreen that is REALLY waterproof this year. I've been trying really hard for 20 something years now with no real luck.
One thing I do recommend if you get a burn is to find some good aloe gel. I've got a bottle here that I bought like 10 years ago that the name and all has worn off of. It kind of looks like green booty lube :'(. But I've never found anything better on cooling down a sunburn.
In spite of the importance of sunscreens, they are grossly misunderstood by consumers.
Most people focus on the Sun Protection Factor (SPF), which is leading with the wrong foot.
The SPF deals essentially with UVB rays (ultraviolet-, and only helps to reduce acute photodamage
characterized by sunburning and tanning. The worrisome rays in sunlight are the UVA rays (ultraviolet-A),
the fraction that causes "chronic" photodamage associated with permanent discoloration, wrinkles & skin cancer.
Instead of concentrating on the SPF, you need to read the ingredients label and look for UVA suppressants
such as Zinc Oxide, Avobenzone (aka Parsol 1789) and/or Titanium Dioxide.
Living in Florida, I need to use the best sunscreen available. I've been using Neutrogena Age Shield for years,
which contains 3.0% Avobenzene, but today I'm using a superior sunscreen (available over the net):
Anthelios L (La Roche-Posay)
Avobenzene 3.5%
Titanium Dioxide 4.0%
SPF-60 (least important of the three)
(Be reminded, the SPF is not known to protect against skin cancer)
Roger
RoLo, the pre and current baby boomer generation are now at the age where sun skin damage is way too common. We are living at a time that we have good sunscreen products available. Most of today's quality sunscreens will have UVA/UVB protection from micro zinc oxides,Octinoxate and Octisate; 4% to 9% depending on the brands.
Eltamd.com & sunprecautions.com are a few more high quality products.
To me this thread shows that younger generation fishermen and women are serious about protecting their skin from sun exposure.
Thank you reminding us about SPF ratings and UVA/UVB.
WRB
Tom, I didn't mention "Octinoxate" because based on what I've read it filters UVB rays
but offers only marginal UVA protection (the bad ray). As for octisalate, I've read that it's easily degraded
by sunlight and furthermore appears to reduce the effectiveness of zinc oxide when the two agents are combined.
I surely do agree with "Zinc Oxide", that stuff has long been recognized as an excellent UVA filter, and protective
against permanent photodamage. In fact, those white blobs we used to see on lifeguard noses were zinc oxide.
Once again, I would strongly recommend "Anthelios L", it's the real deal.
Tom, thanks for bringiing up this vital subject...though it may not be pleasant, it's in every angler's interest.
BTW:
My wife hates that hat I wear, but I told her to get used to it.
It has a wide brim, a chinstrap for windy conditions and it's waterproof (what more could I ask?)
Roger
RoLo... It appears that Anthelios L has been replaced by Anthelios XL, but... my question to you is why isn't it sold over the counter in this country? Is it under a different name or just not available anywhere other that through e-stores?
i usually keep coppertone sport 30 spf and 70spf around 70 for fishing and 30 if im just mowing the lawn or something but thanks rolo i had no idea about that
QuoteRoLo... It appears that Anthelios L has been replaced by Anthelios XL, but... my question to you is why isn't it sold over the counter in this country? Is it under a different name or just not available anywhere other that through e-stores?
Thanks for bringing that to my attention, I didn't know that Anthelios "L" had been replaced by Anthelios "XL".
Whenever I find a product that I really like, I'll normally load up on that product for just such an occasion.
The ingredients I quoted came directly from an "Anthelios L" sunscreen tube (I probably have enough for life).
It wouldn't be so bad if they replicated or improved the old formula, but after reading the ingredients,
I cannot recommend "Anthelios XL", it appears to me like a cost-cutting measure.
Unless I'm missing something, they've omitted Avobenzone altogether, and reduced Titanium Dioxide from 4 to 3.6%.
The best thing to do is to compare the ingredients of many sunscreens and choose the one with the highest content
of Avobenzone (Parsol 1789), Zinc Oxide and/or Titanium Dioxide.
As for the Sun Protection Factor (SPF), that deals essentially with long sloppy UVB rays (320 to 400 nanometers)
that elicit superficial, short-term damage (sunburn - tanning).
Roger
I wear long white painters pants made by Dickies, a turquoise colored long sleeve cotton fishing shirt from Cabela's that is 30 spf, a fairly wide brimmed Realtree camo hat with a mesh crown from Wal-Mart, and Cocoons Aviator fishing glasses that fit over my prescription glasses. The summer sun is brutal here in Phoenix Arizona and believe it or not , this outfit keeps me as cool as wearing shorts and a t shirt. Happy fishing.
~B.A.S.S.~N.A.F.C.~BoatU.S.~N.R.A.~
Have fought the Skin Cancer thing for many years and wasn't aware of the Anthelios that Rolo mentioned.........Thanks WRB and Rolo for the great info. It has been ordered and maybe I can fish a few more daytime trips in the future
Big O
www.ragetail.com
anyone have a good resource for the hats that cover the back of your neck?
I hope Team Pampers takes this thread seriously.
For the younger guys, NOW is the time to protect
your skin. "Later" might be too late.
8-)
Quoteanyone have a good resource for the hats that cover the back of your neck?
Sun Protections, Inc
http://www.sunprotections.com
Sunday Afternoons
http://www.sundayafternoons.com
WRB