How Would You Attack This Lake 2024
fishking247 reply :
Ice out, water is still in the 30's. where would you start and what would you throw?
WRB reply :
Looks like a pond. The dam, the 2.points near the dam and then find a bigger deeper lake for about a month.
Tom
chrisdm4 reply :
I would start with the points with a jig working in the deep water.
B-Dozer reply :
south side should warm up quicker, shallow areas
Hyrule Bass reply :
id attack the 3 points by the 6 foot water lines on your map, from shallow all the way out and into the 6 foot water until you find where the fish are holding. from there you can make lure adjustments if necessary
Alonerankin2 reply :
Jig & pork.. Deep water, fish slow..
Catt reply :
How Would You Attack This Lake?
A-10 Warthog 
my mistake wrong web site!
A lake that size I would attack all of it!
Lund Explorer reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 4:15 AM, Catt said:How Would You Attack This Lake?
A-10 Warthog
my mistake wrong web site!
A lake that size I would attack all of it!
That "BFG" known on a family friendly site as a Gatling gun is going to play havoc with any planned for catch and release!
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 4:15 AM, Catt said:How Would You Attack This Lake?
A-10 Warthog
my mistake wrong web site!
A lake that size I would attack all of it!
You got that right! Lol.. Nothing like putting the gun in you want/need, then designing the whole aircraft around it! Add a couple Hoover engines
(GE) and bam! Seek and destroy...
Sam reply :
I would attack this lake in this manner:
Bombers to take out communications system.
Bombers to knock out roads, bridges and airfields.
Fighter jets to strafe all buildings, vehicles and propane tanks.
Ground troops take control of the electric power station and airport after fighters hit aircraft on the field and the main terminal building.
Set up a perimeter with ground troops around the lake with orders to shoot at will.
Then I would have the lake under control and ready for a counter attack.
Oops. You mean how to attack the lake when fishing in 30* water.
S-l-o-w and deep.
Hit all places that could hold warmer water like stained or dirty water; rocks, bridge pilings; wood in water; and shallows where the sun bears down.
Fish the drop-offs and roadbeds. Hit the stumps, especially if they stick out of the water.
Use your moving baits and a jig and pig. Fish the jig and pig slow. Cast it out and let it sit for at least two minutes before you give it a little tug with your rod tip. Then let it sit again and repeat the process.
Fish the north and west sides first as they get more sunlight during the day.
Don't have high hopes of catching 20 bass. Any caught silver bass will do.
I know you are going crazy to get out and do some fishing but 30* water will not be in your favor.
However, with what the guys posted and my two cents please go out and let us know how you do.
But only go out if you: 1) Tell your family where you will be and what time you will be home. 2) wear your PFD at all times, even along the bank. 3) If it snags wrap your line around a tree or bush on the bank and come back for it next month. 4) Make sure your cell phone is fully charged. 5) Have an extra set of clothes, socks and shoes with you.
Now get out of the house and do some fishing. Just watch for those fighter jets.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 5:03 AM, Sam said:I would attack this lake in this manner:
Bombers to take out communications system.
Bombers to knock out roads, bridges and airfields.
Fighter jets to strafe all buildings, vehicles and propane tanks.
Ground troops take control of the electric power station and airport after fighters hit aircraft on the field and the main terminal building.
Set up a perimeter with ground troops around the lake with orders to shoot at will.
Then I would have the lake under control and ready for a counter attack.
Oops. You mean how to attack the lake when fishing in 30* water.
S-l-o-w and deep.
Hit all places that could hold warmer water like stained or dirty water; rocks, bridge pilings; wood in water; and shallows where the sun bears down.
Fish the drop-offs and roadbeds. Hit the stumps, especially if they stick out of the water.
Use your moving baits and a jig and pig. Fish the jig and pig slow. Cast it out and let it sit for at least two minutes before you give it a little tug with your rod tip. Then let it sit again and repeat the process.
Fish the north and west sides first as they get more sunlight during the day.
Don't have high hopes of catching 20 bass. Any caught silver bass will do.
I know you are going crazy to get out and do some fishing but 30* water will not be in your favor.
However, with what the guys posted and my two cents please go out and let us know how you do.
But only go out if you: 1) Tell your family where you will be and what time you will be home. 2) wear your PFD at all times, even along the bank. 3) If it snags wrap your line around a tree or bush on the bank and come back for it next month. 4) Make sure your cell phone is fully charged. 5) Have an extra set of clothes, socks and shoes with you.
Now get out of the house and do some fishing. Just watch for those fighter jets.
LOL, Sam you should work for the War dept.! Or in today's lingo, the Pentagon!!
Zach Nute reply :
I would throw a smithwick rougue on the banks where there's a steep drop off, which seems to be the north part of this lake. If that doesn't work I would throw a chartreuse colored chatter bait with a Reins Fishing Fat Rockvibe Shad as a trailer, but when you're reeling the chatterbait in be sure to just reel it fast enough to feel the blade moving... If that doesn't work then I would throw a finesse jig with a Reins Fishing Ring Craw as a trailer.. Good Luck!!!
Crestliner2008 reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 2:38 AM, B-Dozer said:south side should warm up quicker, shallow areas
I think you might want to re-think that. The sun is always higher in the south, shining on the north/northwest shoreline areas of the pond and warming them up first and quickest. I'd be tossing hard jerkbaits, with a decent pause (5 - 10 sec.) inbetween twitches. And watch your line.
geo g reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 7:18 AM, Crestliner2008 said:I think you might want to re-think that. The sun is always higher in the south, shining on the north/northwest shoreline areas of the pond and warming them up first and quickest. I'd be tossing hard jerkbaits, with a decent pause (5 - 10 sec.) inbetween twitches. And watch your line.
Under normal conditions the north/northwest always heats up first. So true!
Paul Roberts reply :
Attack!!!!! Bomber's are fine as long as they suspend. Switch out the Warthog for a Brushhog and the depleted uranium for tungsten or plain old lead. 
Looks like a pond to me too, and a shallow one at that. Being in NY, first thing I'd be doing is checking it AT ice-out for winterkill -especially if it has much vegetation.
I'd break it into winter habitat, then spring habitat. In a pond that shallow, winter habitat will most likely be the deepest slots and holes. The map is a rough one so there's probably more there to find. Couple those with steep drops if they exist and I'd be checking those first. Suspending jerks, slow rising flat-sided cranks, lipless, jigs, grubs/tubes, and super slow-rolled SB's would be my choices.
As things warm I'd start hitting the warmed coves and arms -looking for heat, cover, and bluegills. You don't have a compass indicator on your map, but the NW shores will likely heat first and most since they get the most sun, as Crestliner says. I'd also check known spawning locations as bass may collect near these areas earlier than you might think. Same lures as above but starting to pick up the pace, esp mid-day on. Early in this period I'd also add a #11 floating Rapala -just a killer early season (>50F) bait.
long island basser reply :
Looks like blydenburgh to me.
B-Dozer reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 7:55 AM, geo g said:Under normal conditions the north/northwest always heats up first. So true!
You are both 100% Correct. What I meant/should have said was the north side, due to the southern exposure.
chrisdm4 reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 4:15 AM, Catt said:How Would You Attack This Lake?
A-10 Warthog
my mistake wrong web site!
A lake that size I would attack all of it!
BRRRRRRRRRRRT
scaleface reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 7:18 AM, Crestliner2008 said:I think you might want to re-think that. The sun is always higher in the south, shining on the north/northwest shoreline areas of the pond and warming them up first and quickest. I'd be tossing hard jerkbaits, with a decent pause (5 - 10 sec.) inbetween twitches. And watch your line.
Yeah , but the south side is closer to the equator .
Djf3864 reply :
That's more of a puddle than a lake, but in all seriousness I would start with the structure and points. As it starts to warm a little more find the flats for spawning bass.
halochef reply :
how would one fish this part of a pa lake?
WRB reply :
There wasn't a scale to the sketch to determine size, however it can't be more than a few acres, the"deep" water is 6', meaning there isn't any deep water.
You should be able to cover the entire pond/lake in a few hours. I will keep with my opening statement, fish the points, then go get breakfast.
Tom
RanndomUndead reply :
Go far north, then far south, find the rocks and find out which is holding fish and warmer water
Alonerankin2 reply :
Depth is a relative term to the body of water being discussed. Bottom line, if 6 feet is max depth, then it is considered "deep" as it applies to fishing. Or for that matter, discussions concerning fishing, lol..
WRB reply :
6' maybe be 100% deeper than 3', both are shallow water. This "lake" may not be deep enough to sustain bass or baitfish during winter if frozen unless water is running through or there is spring water. This is a tiny hypothetical body of water.On 3/25/2015 at 6:50 AM, Alonerankin2 said:Depth is a relative term to the body of water being discussed. Bottom line, if 6 feet is max depth, then it is considered "deep" as it applies to fishing. Or for that matter, discussions concerning fishing, lol..
Tom
long island basser reply :
This is blydenburgh lake, it is 100 acres in size.
Alonerankin2 reply :
On 3/25/2015 at 7:26 AM, WRB said:6' maybe be 100% deeper than 3', both are shallow water. This "lake" may not be deep enough to sustain bass or baitfish during winter if frozen unless water is running through or there is spring water. This is a tiny hypothetical body of water.
Tom
I understand your Mathematica, but, what would we ( most ) fisherman refer to 6' of the deepest or deepest most shallow part of a pond or small lake? The shallow deep, or the deeper shallow ?
Paul Roberts reply :
The depth, regardless of the number, is certainly relevant. If it doesn't winterkill -and it may not, esp now that we know it's on LI (Sorry fishking, but I wasn't the one who exposed it)- than that "deep water" most likely defines the winter habitat for those bass. I fish some ponds that are of similar depth -even similar layout- and if you hit it early enough you are going to have some dull days if you ignore this fact.
Here's a seasonally appropriate trip report that highlights two ponds, one is all of 5ft in a deep slot, and the other 8ft:
http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/115075-boom-spring-or-is-it/?hl=%2Bpaul+%2Broberts#entry1261169
fishking247 reply :
LI basser is correct. It's in LI and fish do in fact survive the winter. This winter was the worst I've ever seen on LI. We had solid on ice on ponds from December until mid march. My guess is over 12" of ice because I have friends who have ice fished similar size and depth lakes on LI this winter and reported upwards of 18-24" of ice
Paul Roberts reply :
The critical factors for winterkill will be two things:
-nutrient load in the form of heavy vegetation (that dies and decomposes) or agric/suburban runoff.
-snow on the ice for extended periods. Ice itself can let enough light through to maintain photosynthesis beneath. But block that light with heavy snow and oxygen will get used up.
fishking247 reply :
I have been to the lake this spring and have not seen any signs of a fish kill
Paul Roberts reply :
Often have to get there right at ice-out bc dead fish sink fast. A couple days late and you might miss seeing it. If you have a shallow pond you suspect might kill bc of a heavy snow, get there at ice-out. It's a hassle, but I can think of worse things on my to-do list.
fishking247 reply :
This is A "big" pond for LI and has never had a kill before. Most ponds around here are 15-20 acres How did fish kill even come up in this topic lol
Paul Roberts reply :
On 3/25/2015 at 11:25 AM, fishking247 said:This is A "big" pond for LI and has never had a kill before. Most ponds around here are 15-20 acres How did fish kill even come up in this topic lol
Because it's only 6 feet deep! In most of NYS, and across the north, a pond only 6 feet deep is at risk of winterkill. That would be my first question when looking at such a pond. I've experienced catastrophic kills in waters up to 40acres in size. We didn't know at the outset just how big your pond was, or where it was located in the state.
WRB reply :
Asking for advice results in better feedback when regional location is known and some scale of size. How would you fish this 100 acre NE lake? The sketch indicates it is only 6' deep and we now know it freezes over with up to 24" of ice, makes this a very marginal LMB bass lake, unless there is deeper water or springs.
We could only guess at the size, the sketch is well done but without any scale. 100 acres gives the bass more room to find places to survive. To put a scale to this lake; this small lake about 1/2 mile long x 1/8 mile wide?
I would still fish the same areas stated earlier, the points that intersect deepest water with slip shot rig reaper, 5" worm and jerk bait like LC Pointer.
If you can use a boat, then fish the entire lake.
Tom
Weld's Largemouth reply :
On 3/24/2015 at 1:43 AM, fishking247 said:Ice out, water is still in the 30's. where would you start and what would you throw?
Heyee i know that lake
MIbassin reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 12:02 AM, WRB said:Asking for advice results in better feedback when regional location is known and some scale of size. How would you fish this 100 acre NE lake? The sketch indicates it is only 6' deep and we now know it freezes over with up to 24" of ice, makes this a very marginal LMB bass lake, unless there is deeper water or springs.
We could only guess at the size, the sketch is well done but without any scale. 100 acres gives the bass more room to find places to survive. To put a scale to this lake; this small lake about 1/2 mile long x 1/8 mile wide?
I would still fish the same areas stated earlier, the points that intersect deepest water with slip shot rig reaper, 5" worm and jerk bait like LC Pointer.
If you can use a boat, then fish the entire lake.
Tom
Although it seems like a marginal bass lake, it produces 8 and 9 pounders. I have fished it many times over the summers and love it. Is it the best conditions for LMB? No, but it sure does hold some mighty fine fish.
Catt reply :
100 acres!
The bass would glad to see me leave
WRB reply :
100 acres that is only 6' deep at the deepest, the rest average about 3' and it produces 9 lb NLMB, plus open to the public.
Half this lake would freeze solid with 24" of ice. The only explanation is the lake is much deeper and someone is planting prey fish. Why wouldn't every bass sngler on Long Island fish this lake, 9 lb LMB are rare in NY.
Tom
Weld's Largemouth reply :
On 3/26/2015 at 7:08 AM, WRB said:100 acres that is only 6' deep at the deepest, the rest average about 3' and it produces 9 lb NLMB, plus open to the public.
Half this lake would freeze solid with 24" of ice. The only explanation is the lake is much deeper and someone is planting prey fish. Why wouldn't every bass sngler on Long Island fish this lake, 9 lb LMB are rare in NY.
Tom
Many anglers fish here, its one of the most popular lakes on the island. It has indeed produced some very nice fish, including that 9lber. It could be due to the wide range of food: bluegill, pumpkinseed, pickerel, perch, shiners and trout that allowed the growth of such a fish.
Paul Roberts reply :
Keep in mind that Long Island is not as cold as "upstate" NY, it's climate being tempered by the ocean and the Gulf Stream in particular. Those small coastal lakes and ponds give up northern bass in sizes that are not seen further inland, including that 15+lb LM from Massachusetts -still, I believe, the largest pure northern LMB on record. Mainebasser1984 knows a thing or two about this I'm guessing.
On 3/25/2015 at 10:38 AM, fishking247 said:LI basser is correct. It's in LI and fish do in fact survive the winter. This winter was the worst I've ever seen on LI. We had solid on ice on ponds from December until mid march. My guess is over 12" of ice because I have friends who have ice fished similar size and depth lakes on LI this winter and reported upwards of 18-24" of ice
This winter was particularly severe there according to fishking247. Ice depths are not certain. DEC describes max lake depth as 8ft. Shoreline is ecologically intact, surrounded by forest and wetland. At 100 acres, that's a decent volume. If there were any winterkill there it would most likely not be catastrophic.
On 3/26/2015 at 7:08 AM, WRB said:...
Half this lake would freeze solid with 24" of ice....
True, which highlights the very reason winter habitat is so critical to bass. Be there or be square.
So... back to the OP -fishing advice- I stick with my original post.
Zach Nute reply :
On 3/25/2015 at 5:08 AM, halochef said:how would one fish this part of a pa lake?
PM me.. I've actually fished that lake before around this time and caught some really big ones.!!
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