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J Francho reply :

Pop Quiz.

Which fish is bigger?

Exhibit A:

Exhibit B:

J Francho reply :

Vote your conscience!

burleytog reply :

I vote you throw that horrible head cover in the lake.

fishfordollars reply :

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I vote you throw that horrible head cover in the lake.

X2, but they are about the same.

firefightn15 reply :

Sorry J, I'm with Burley on this one too. ;D As far as the fish, my guess would be that it is the same fish or the weights are close.

On second look I don't think they are the same fish but I still think the weights are close.

Pitchinkid reply :

lol i cant even look at the fish. Thats ridiculous, LOL. Oh man, at least i got a good laugh today. Look like Squints from the Sandlot fell into a bag head first. LOL. Not trying to be mean, just a funny looking hat man. Oh man. Thats funny stuff.

Pitchinkid reply :

LOL i mean ridiculous. i cant stop coming back to this picture.

simplejoe reply :

looks like the same fish, is this a trick question?

Nice hat. ;D

tholmes reply :

Are you growin' antlers under that thing?

Tom

Tin reply :

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lol Look like Squints from the Sandlot fell into a bag head first. LOL.

Atleast he gets the hot lifeguard. Those red glasses remind me of Sally Jesse Raphael.

firefightn15 reply :

J, I'm startin' to think you need to photo shop them pics! ;D

Bassnajr reply :

I think that hat is bigger than both fish!!!! ;D

zero limit reply :

#1 is bigger

#2 is held closer to camera

J Francho reply :

The hat stays. With all this encouragement, I'll probably Photochop it into every picture, LOL....

So, which is bigger?

Uncle Leo reply :

I voted A even though both of the bass will fit in that Burlap Sack on your head. :

And the moral of the story is get a scale.

Pitchinkid reply :

Sorry to hear that. Looks alot like the same fish. Neither.

Stasher1 reply :

I found J Francho's hat...

http://www.fishingworld.com/DuncanEnterprises/Details.tmpl?ID=12197744674972462&Cart=126814504593430862

K_Mac reply :

I'm going with B. It is impossible to tell from a photo, but while A appears to be a little longer, B appears to have more of a gut. I could be wrong. :

K_Mac reply :

BTW I believe every man should have a hat or two that embarrasses his wife and children. Well done!

Dwight Hottle reply :

B looks bigger but I suspect its the same fish in both pictures. We already know its the same hat in both pics. Maybe you can trade the hat for a scale? ;)

J Francho reply :

I'm keeping the hat, and have a few scales. The exercise is to bring up two points.

Dwight Hottle reply :

And?

Bass_Akwards reply :

I for one think it's pretty uncool to keep all your fish under your hat. Get a livewell, not a scale.

backpain... reply :

Same fish different angles? looks like a trick question to me.

Pitchinkid reply :

lol awesome

J Francho reply :

Nice. ;D Here's one I found of ginger boy:

Pitchinkid reply :

lol dont get mad dude. its all in fun. Im way more Ginger than that dude. At least put a picture of carrottop up or something.

J Francho reply :

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And?

Actually Dwight, you and a few others were right, its the same fish. the original point is, get a scale. Right now, if you don't have one. The other point is a photograph is a terrible way to document a big catch, if no other measurements are taken.

The hat, well, its warm.

J Francho reply :

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lol dont get mad dude. its all in fun. Im way more Ginger than that dude. At least put a picture of carrottop up or something.

I'm not mad dude, its all good. ;D

D4u2s0t reply :

I tried something like this a while back, and no one wanted to play. It's funny how the "how big is my fish" threads get 6 pages of posts ranging from 1-9 pounds. When they know you have the weight, no one wants to guess. I posted like 5 fish, said I know the weights, trying to prove the same point, and nobody really guessed lol.

J Francho reply :

Votes are pretty much split down the middle. Funny thing is, I posted this on a local board, and most actually took it seriously. Maybe says more about regional tastes in hats, LMAO.

D4u2s0t reply :

I don;'t care what anyone says, you CANNOT accurately tell the size of a fish from pictures. I can make a 2 pounder look like a 7, and a 7 pounder look like a 2. If you look at ANY thread where people guess the weight, it's so all over the place it's rediculous. Everyone should have a scale, I picked one up for like 10 dollars and it's pretty accurate. Then you don't have to make silly guesses, and call your 3 pounder a 7 pounder.

Bass_Akwards reply :

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And?

Actually Dwight, you and a few others were right, its the same fish. the original point is, get a scale. Right now, if you don't have one. The other point is a photograph is a terrible way to document a big catch, if no other measurements are taken.

The hat, well, its warm.

Disagree. Photos can be an awesome way of documenting a big catch. You just have to know what youre doing both behind the camera,as well as how to hold the fish correctly.

I personally like to take 2 shots. One with a 50mm lens, which is equal to what the human eye sees, and then I like to take a shot with a shorter lens where I get the fish super close to the lens while still keeping the fish in frame. This way I can get great detail in the bass. Some people call this "Long arming the bass" to make it look bigger than it really is.

I do it so people can really see the fish. The scales, the slime, the gill plates etc. I always say how big the fish is so when you're looking at it in the photo, there's no argument.

Here's an example of a "long arm" shot with a short lens. It makes this 4 or 5 pounder look like a 7 or 8 pounder or whatever, but if I tell people the fish was 5 pounds, and it actually was, what does it matter how huge the fish looks in the photo? What matters is the detail and color of the beautiful bass, and the fact that I know how much it weighed and I'm honest about it.

This bass had the smallest mouth in comparison to it's body that I can remember catching.

backpain... reply :

Now THAT is a bass pic! I am of the mindset that the picture is to capture the memory, not to bragg about a fish. I want to be able to look at that picture later on and relive the fun and thrill of the catch. I will never get a fish mounted, so a good photo even if "long armed" and who knows, maybe even seems to get bigger with time... so much the sweeter. It means that the memory is still simmering and getting richer--bolder with time. Maybe one day I will not be able to fish, and all I will have are the memories. Let them simmer! 8-)

J Francho reply :

I agree, focal length plays a part, but really its the relationship of lens distance to the subject and subject distance to the background. Its just easier to amplify perspectve with a shorter focal length.

For me, unless its a picture of a bass on a scale, or ruler board, its a capture moment of the event - far more important than the actual size of the fish. Smiles, friendship, etc mean more than any big fish.

To show you what I mean:

17mm

19mm

Same basic focal length, yet the second doesn't exhibit the same exaggeration because the distance from lens to fish, and lens person is almost equal.

J Francho reply :

A couple more that show its perspective, not really focal length. Same fish in both again.

27mm

40mm

Tin reply :

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Nice. ;D Here's one I found of ginger boy:

HOLY @$#@$##. No joke that looks just like Pond Hopper...

A-Jay reply :

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For me, unless its a picture of a bass on a scale, or ruler board, its a capture moment of the event

I took the poll as if they were actually two different fish and chose B. So, I would agree

(and always have) that you cannot accurately determine size by photographs. That's why

I am all about a scale and I made my own built in ruler board.

A-Jay

J Francho reply :

Nice smallie!

For kayak tournaments, we use these rulers, or "Hawg Troughs."

They work pretty well, once you educate people how to use them:

A-Jay reply :

^^^^ Nice LMB !

I used the Hawg Trough concept as a guide to turn the center bench seat of the canoe into the ruler. It works very well, takes ALL the guess-ta-mating out of play and still allows use of the seat if need be.

A-Jay

fourbizz reply :

Rats like those are hard to judge. Who cares what the difference between a 2 and 3 pounder looks like... ;D

J Francho reply :

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Rats like those are hard to judge. Who cares what the difference between a 2 and 3 pounder looks like... ;D

Touche!

Dwight Hottle reply :

Well its time for another estimate/guess. What's this one weigh?

J Francho reply :

LOL, looks about 3000 manatee cheesburgers.

MSPbass reply :

I say it's bass "A" !

tnbassfisher reply :

Educate us on how to use that Hawg Trough would you, Franco.

bass or bass ? reply :

I vote for exhibit C: None of the above! LOL

Luke at Gouldsboro reply :

Everybody is ragging on the hat. too funny...

J Francho reply :

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Educate us on how to use that Hawg Trough would you, Franco.

What do you want to know? Wet it down, put the fish on it, pinch the jaws, spread the tail, and read the length.

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You'd think I lost a bet with the hat, LMAO....I actually wear it a lot.

brushhoggin reply :

i gave my dad the same hat one christmas so he could pull it down around his neck if he wanted to but his brother and everyone else gave him hell about it just like this. hey Franco, if it outperforms "cool" lookin hats, then wear on my brother ;D

D4u2s0t reply :

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Educate us on how to use that Hawg Trough would you, Franco.

What do you want to know? Wet it down, put the fish on it, pinch the jaws, spread the tail, and read the length.

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You'd think I lost a bet with the hat, LMAO....I actually wear it a lot.

i have a flanel clark griswold hat with the ear flaps lol, wear it all the time

Taylor Fishin 4 life reply :

flip the hat over and use it as a tounament weigh in bag

J Francho reply :

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flip the hat over and use it as a tounament weigh in bag

Maybe that would work for you. I don't catch dinks. 8-)

Taylor Fishin 4 life reply :

shoot that hat could hold more than dinks rofl...it could make the balloon on a hot hair balloon

BigEbass reply :

I dig the hat man just so ya know

Not every fisher person should wear the same old boring crap or whatever - I am now gonna start wearing some MC hammer pants just to mix it up man....just imagining myself holding a 10 pounder in my brightly colored MC hammer pants that would be da bomb!!!

Taylor Fishin 4 life reply :

lol yea im just giving u a hard time over it i would probably wear it too

BigEbass reply :

I could be wrong but I will go out on a limb and say that these are not the same fish - the sky is different in both photos and the color cast is different suggesting to me that you used a different camera or the more overcast day the camera used a different white balance perhaps - or I am totally wrong

christopherjake reply :

B looks fatter

Nicky Greece reply :

so whats the answer??

J Francho reply :

Already answered above. Same fish. One from the back, one from the front.

BigEbass reply :

hahaha - my thesis was blown

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