Tungsten worm weights. 2024
LunkerLust reply :
When the weeds started to get really heavy, I went to my local bait & tackle shop for some 3/4 and 1 oz. worm weights. They only had 1/2 oz. in lead. The guy said I should be using tungsten anyway. So, I bought a pack of each totaling around $12. On my second fishing trip I was pulling out of a snag when the rig came free, flew over my shoulder and I heard the weight plop in the water about 50 feet behind me. Drat, my mistake, I guess. Next day different lake, I lose two more, this time on pickerel bites.
So I decided to try a rig using 1' of 7 strand stainless steel leader with my last weight to try and make it pickerel proof. Well after about an hour the leader broke off at the crimp, without even getting a bite. I guess it was like bending a tin can!
So, my questions would be:
1 Are most of you using the Tungsten weights?
2 Are there any pickerel proof rigs?
3 How often do you lose rigs, with any kind of weigh?
I use Power Pro 50# with Palomar knots, and I try to retie often. Also, these were BPS weights.
Wayne P. reply :
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burleytog reply :
If you're using tungsten with braid, make sure you're using TruTungsten weights.
SimonSays reply :
I do use tungsten, but I buy them online from an Ebay reseller.
Here's a link to his 10-pack 1/8oz for 5.99 with free shipping
They come with the plstic inserts to keep from abrasing the line, and they're much much cheaper than in the stores!
QuoteIf you're using tungsten with braid, make sure you're using TruTungsten weights.
Why trutungsten?
Pigsticker reply :
QuoteI do use tungsten, but I buy them online from an Ebay reseller.Here's a link to his 10-pack 1/8oz for 5.99 with free shipping
They come with the plstic inserts to keep from abrasing the line, and they're much much cheaper than in the stores!
QuoteIf you're using tungsten with braid, make sure you're using TruTungsten weights.Why trutungsten?
Listen to Burley.
Tungsten cuts right through braid.
Tru Tungsten uses a very nice coating to protect your line.
The plastic inserts in cheaper tungsten weights can fall out, allowing the tungsten weight to cut the braid 
burleytog reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteIf you're using tungsten with braid, make sure you're using TruTungsten weights.Why trutungsten?
Listen to Burley.
Tungsten cuts right through braid.
Tru Tungsten uses a very nice coating to protect your line.
The plastic inserts in cheaper tungsten weights can fall out, allowing the tungsten weight to cut the braid
Inserts=bad
I've tried them all over the last year. Tru-Tungsten is the only manufacturer who makes a high quality tungsten weight. I've yet to use a weight with an insert where the insert doesn't slide out after a day of fishing.
Braid+insert=FAIL
SimonSays reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIf you're using tungsten with braid, make sure you're using TruTungsten weights.Why trutungsten?
Listen to Burley.
Tungsten cuts right through braid.
Tru Tungsten uses a very nice coating to protect your line.
The plastic inserts in cheaper tungsten weights can fall out, allowing the tungsten weight to cut the braid
Inserts=bad
I've tried them all over the last year. Tru-Tungsten is the only manufacturer who makes a high quality tungsten weight. I've yet to use a weight with an insert where the insert doesn't slide out after a day of fishing.
Braid+insert=FAIL
Oh ok so it's the insert, but not the tungsten? Have you tried the weighs I linked from ebay? The only reason I say this is that I use braid exclusively and have NEVER had these inserts come out, which is why I've never experienced the tungsten cutting my braid.
Give em a shot if you haven't your wallet will thank you.
burleytog reply :
No thanks, there's no reason to buy anything other than Tru-Tungsten.
fourbizz reply :
QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteIf you're using tungsten with braid, make sure you're using TruTungsten weights.Why trutungsten?
Listen to Burley.
Tungsten cuts right through braid.
Tru Tungsten uses a very nice coating to protect your line.
The plastic inserts in cheaper tungsten weights can fall out, allowing the tungsten weight to cut the braid
Inserts=bad
I've tried them all over the last year. Tru-Tungsten is the only manufacturer who makes a high quality tungsten weight. I've yet to use a weight with an insert where the insert doesn't slide out after a day of fishing.
Braid+insert=FAIL
mattm reply :
I use tru-tungsten. To my knowledge they have the highest % of tungsten which equals the greatest benefits that tungsten has to offer. However if I was losing them constantly to toothy critters I might reconsider. Simon, seems to have very good luck with his supplier. If cost is an issue you might consider giving them a shot. He seems pleased.
BossierBassHunter reply :
bass fishing is so freaking high tech. Where is it going next? diamond pointed hooks so they never go dull?
SimonSays reply :
QuoteI use tru-tungsten. To my knowledge they have the highest % of tungsten which equals the greatest benefits that tungsten has to offer. However if I was losing them constantly to toothy critters I might reconsider. Simon, seems to have very good luck with his supplier. If cost is an issue you might consider giving them a shot. He seems pleased.
Well put Matt, I have been having success with them. I'll be sure to try trutungsten out later the next time i'm at my local tackleshop.
QuoteNo thanks, there's no reason to buy anything other than Tru-Tungsten.
Well, _B_u_r_l_e_y_ aside, if anyone else has been looking for affordable Tungsten and has an open mind give the linked ebay page a shot, $6 for 10 vs $6 for 4 is hard to beat if you decide it's a good product.
dave reply :
Tru-Tungstun and Penetrator. I have purhcased the BPS and kept breaking Yo Zuri Hybrid. It was the weight. It wasn't a perfect cylinder. It was flattened out inside (insert) and outside. It was not really sliding well and kept chewing up my line.
Bassnajr reply :
Thanks for the link Simon...I am always looking for a way to keep fiishing costs down!!!!
ajr
jax reply :
Are you guys using a free sliding weight or are you pegging it? I'm going to try to find some tungsten weights this weekend and I don't want to lose them!!! If I peg them does the brand/ finish matter as much?
What about carolina rigging? Still matter as much?
What about if you aren't using braided line?
I'm trying to shorten my learning curve on the tungsten. I'm on a tight budget and can't afford alot of losses.
Bassnajr reply :
Check out Simon's link...for those prices, you can't get hurt. I have started using Tru Tungsten because the weights are smaller than lead weights.
Blue Streak reply :
I use tungsten because they are so sensitive I can feel things much better with them than lead. The inserts take that feel away, so if you are using those you are losing the greatest benefit of tungsten.
wisturkeyhunter reply :
QuoteI have started using steel because the weights are much smaller per weight than lead. IMO
Thats not possible.
burleytog reply :
QuoteI have started using steel because the weights are much smaller per weight than lead. IMO
Steel is less dense than lead, therefore a 1/8 oz. steel weight would be larger than a 1/8 lead weight.
Bassnajr reply :
From the Tru Tungsten web site:
"Using tungsten weights with your Texas-rigged worm will give you the bottom contact advantage, and using the Tru-Tungsten® weights when you're flipping will enable you to penetrate thick cover with a weight that is much smaller in size than the lead counterpart."
And from an article about the new Tru Tungsten jig head...."Tungsten's higher density vs. lead means it can have the same weight with less material. That makes a huge difference when you're trying to make a finesses presentation in skinny water.
So I guess I was right..........
wisturkeyhunter reply :
Steel and tungsten are 2 different metals and lead is somewheres between them as far as density goes so I guess you'd be wrong.
Bassnajr reply :
If I'm wrong, so are the makers of Tru Tungsten. Go to their website. Tungsten is denser than lead.
Bassnajr reply :
I think you are splitting hairs...I I should have been specific and said "TUNGSTEN" I have heard it refered to as tungsten steel. But I am not a chemist.....sounds like you are. I just fish.......
burleytog reply :
QuoteI think you are splitting hairs...I I should have been specific and said "TUNGSTEN" I have heard it refered to as tungsten steel. But I am not a chemist.....sounds like you are. I just fish.......
More like grasping at straws. :
Bassnajr reply :
Tungsten is denser then lead...but not as dense as you..... ;D
J Francho reply :
The steel and tungsten weights are all steel alloys. The problem with calling the True Tungsten brand weights "steel" is that its confusing since Bullet brand makes a lighter product labeled as "Steel." I use both brands of weights, and each has its advantages.
Tungsten literally means "heavy rock," and due to both its higher density and smaller profile, a comparable tungsten weight will sink in the water column faster than lower density weights. They are a great way to balance a heavier weight with a smaller profile plastic. Ever fish a 4" worm with a 3/4 oz. worm weight? Tungsten makes more sense here.
I also use the steel weights for the exact opposite reason. I may want a slower fall with a very large profile bait, and the steel allows me to match up the size. Another good reason to fish steel is in very snaggy situations. There are some spots I fish locally where you'd be better off using rolls of quarters to weight your rig than tungsten, since it ultimately save you a few dollars, LOL.
In New York State, there is a ban on the sale of lead, due to issues with waterfowl, specifically loons. I still use lead weights, as I have a pile leftover from the ban many years ago. Lead is soft, and therefore somewhat pliable which also makes it ideal for fishing chunky rock snag fest areas. Popping the line like a guitar string before the first guide, several times, will usually free your bait from the jam up. You'll also see where the weight got caught, if you get it back.
There are some cited side benefits to tungsten, specifically that fact that it transmits more feel back through the blank and that it slides around in the fish's mouth making hooksets easier. While both may be absolutely true, I don't see what advantage either offers. How much do really need to feel for it to be an advantage? For me, inanimate obstructions go bump. Fish are either nearly undetectable, smash your bait, or somewhere in between. Any way they strike - they are alive, and totally different than rocks and weeds.
That's my take on it, take it or leave it
Bassnajr reply :
Thank you JF....you cleared up any questions I had.
Good info!!!!
ajr
Catt reply :
Now if y'all want to split hairs then a chemist is not needed but rather a metallurgist
Tungsten (pronounced /[ch712]t[ch652][ch331]st[ch601]n/), also known as wolfram (/[ch712]w[ch650]lfr[ch601]m/), is a chemical element that has the symbol W and atomic number 74. A steel-gray metal, tungsten is found in several ores, including wolframite and scheelite.
Steel is an alloy consisting mostly of iron, with a carbon content between 0.2 and 2.04% by weight, depending on grade. Carbon is the most cost-effective alloying material for iron, but various other alloying elements are used such as manganese, chromium, vanadium, and tungsten.
Steel's density is 7850 while tungsten is twice that at 19600; Tungsten is often brittle and hard to work in its raw state; however, if pure, it can be cut with a hacksaw. The pure form is used mainly in electrical applications and what we get as bullet weights as true tungsten but a tungsten alloy.
Tokyo Tony reply :
QuoteNow if y'all want to split hairs then a chemist is not needed but rather a metallurgist
Or a barber.
Sorry, that was terrible.
LunkerLust reply :
If the edge of the weight is what's cutting the braid, then why not a soft rubber center like Gambler uses for their Florida worm weights. I use them on smaller rigs because you don't have to peg them, and you can get them with rattles. They're really good for Carolina rigging. I don't think they make them heavier than 1/2 oz. though. It seems like tungsten would be perfect for this application. HELLO MANUFACTURERS ! If there is a drill bit that will cut the tungsten, then maybe I'll buy some of the cheaper weights, listed above, and do it myself.
Bassnajr reply :
Tony...BAD!!!!! ;D
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