Tie me on four baits. 2024
jtipton91 reply :
Just looking to gain some knowledge here. I typically only have room for 4 rods with me on my bass raider on a given outing. Those rods are usually rigged as followed. Looking for advice on a good starting lineup or if what I've got goin isn't too bad.
1. 6-6 MHF ethos casting-hollow belly swimbait
2. 6-6 MHF gander mtn elite casting- trig big worm or craw.
3. 6-8 MXF St.Croix Rage casting- weightless senko
4. 6-6 MHF Shimano Clarus casting- top water of some sort.
Fishing a 50 acre sandpit in KS. Let me know if you guys would change anything or any tips you have.
mrmacwvu1 reply :
Spinnerbait depending on water clarity depends on the blade
Senko
Jerkbait
Jig and pig
riverbasser reply :
Spinner bait
Deep crank
Jig
Carolina rig
This is my summer starting setup/ subject to change anytime
jtipton91 reply :
I've been giving the jig alot of thought lately. I have tons of them. I'm bad about getting locked onto throwing a handful of baits and trying to make them work
Scarborough817 reply :
what line do you have on each rod?
Hurricane reply :
Add a 5th rod and make it a spinning rigged with a Ned Rig....
buzzed bait reply :
start with a plan like you have, but don't be afraid to change it up! with a decent bit of wind like you would have there on the regular, i'd throw in a spinnerbait or maybe a bladed jig.... i'd also try a deep crank, deep being relative to the body of water.
jtipton91 reply :
On 6/9/2016 at 3:43 AM, LastCastChris said:Add a 5th rod and make it a spinning rigged with a Ned Rig....
Can the ned be rigged weedless? This pit has alot of weeds for 15 or 20 yards out from the shore.
RichF reply :
99% of the time, when I'm fishing largemouth in northern NY, this is basically it....
Frog - top of the water column
Bladed Jig - middle of the water column
Jig - bottom of the water column
Hurricane reply :
On 6/9/2016 at 3:45 AM, jtipton91 said:Can the ned be rigged weedless? This pit has alot of weeds for 15 or 20 yards out from the shore.
They offer a weedless shroomz jig head.. Haven't tried it yet...
jtipton91 reply :
On 6/9/2016 at 3:41 AM, Scarborough817 said:what line do you have on each rod?
15# P-line cx premium on rage and gsx elite.
12# big game on the other 2
Scarborough817 reply :
On 6/9/2016 at 3:46 AM, jtipton91 said:15# P-line cx premium on rage and gsx elite.
12# big game on the other 2
i would rig the following
1. 6-6 MHF ethos casting-1/2 oz chatterbait with paddle tail trailer.
2. 6-6 MHF gander mtn elite casting- trig big worm, trig craw or jig with craw
3. 6-8 MXF St.Croix Rage casting- weightless senko.
4. 6-6 MHF Shimano Clarus casting- start with a buzzbait or spook depending on water conditions (i would also fish a jerkbait on this)
edit: i forgot to add why i suggested those. first thing you should be covering water looking for active fish either with topwater, jerkbait or chatterbait. then slowing down if they aren't very active which is where the jig and weightless senko come in
jtipton91 reply :
Ahah! Great advice. Thankyou
Bluebasser86 reply :
I agree with the bladed jig suggestion. They're great for fishing over submerged weeds because the strong vibrations calls fish out of the weeds.
jtipton91 reply :
I'll give that a try tonight.
Fishes in trees reply :
These days, I don't leave the dock without at least one drop shot rig ready to go. Strip pits in Kansas though, where you're at, I don't know. Strip pits are their own animal and experience on lowland reservoirs or Ozark type hill land reservoirs only kinda applies. Given that the water in those is generally pretty clear I'm thinking that a top water and a wacky senko is probably all I'd throw. The previous suggestion of a ned rig is a good idea. Back in olden times, we called that a "Slider Rig" and used Charlie Brewer Slider jig heads and 4" worms - very similar to the ned rig IMO.
Back in the day with my first boat ( an 8' Water Scamp ) I fished strip pits quite a bit - primarily the Finger Lakes State Park north of Columbia, MO. That area is a series of strip pits- a few individual ones that require walking in and dragging a boat. The primary water there is a group of strip pits that, back in the 80's the Conservation department bull dozed lanes connecting a dozen or so of the pits and then built a dam that raised the water level of the whole place 10' or so. It was a difficult place to figure out - but there were a series of shelves where the lanes connection the series of pits happened. You could generally pull a fish or two off each ledge with a jig.
I think that the best way to think of strip pits is like they are miniature canyon reservoirs - there just isn't a lot of fish holding structure there, so you spend your time finding what is there and when you do you have a good spot.
Bassguytom reply :
Also try a tube right off the weeds on the deep side. I fish a strip pit that they still work in and this works very well.
the reel ess reply :
Just looked on my rods, pre-rigged for next time out.
Spook, Jr
10" worm C-rig
T-rigged Craw
Zoom Trick Worm weightless
jtipton91 reply :
On 6/10/2016 at 1:54 AM, the reel ess said:Just looked on my rods, pre-rigged for next time out.
Spook, Jr
10" worm C-rig
T-rigged Craw
Zoom Trick Worm weightless
I went with a senko, cut r worm, craw, and frog for tonight. I'm going to try to get better at adjusting when what I'm throwing isn't working.
the reel ess reply :
On 6/10/2016 at 1:57 AM, jtipton91 said:I went with a senko, cut r worm, craw, and frog for tonight. I'm going to try to get better at adjusting when what I'm throwing isn't working.
I went to a new pond last night for about an hour and a half. As soon as I saw it was full of lilies and standing (and laying) timber, I cut off the C-rig and tied on a frog. I caught 9 all between the frog and Spook. My dad went along because he knows the owner well. He grabbed the Trick Worm and caught a couple and missed a few. A little rusty.
Anyway, I'm glad my dad went. He usually says he's too old for that and not into fishing anymore. Watching me catch a couple got his interest.
Delaware Valley Tackle reply :
That's a good start but you'll want to adjust for conditions.
fishballer06 reply :
Don't be afraid to put a 1/4oz. Fish Head Spin and a 3" paddletail swimbait on that Senko rod.
jtipton91 reply :
Wind was around 20mph so I swapped the frog for a chatterbait. No hits on that. Caught 1 fish on the cut r worm and the rest on a trig rage craw. Not a bad night.
On 6/10/2016 at 8:55 PM, fishballer06 said:Don't be afraid to put a 1/4oz. Fish Head Spin and a 3" paddletail swimbait on that Senko rod.
I fish a paddle tail on an owner flashy swimmer underspin almost every time i go out.
WRB reply :
Just trying to visualize your sand pit lake. Most pit lakes I am familiar with have steep banks on 3 sides with a sloping bank where the equipment exits the rectangular shape pit.
LMB in these pits tend to roam the perimeter to hunt prey. The middle areas usually don't have isolated structure to give prey a place to hide. If there is something out from the bank like boulder pile, road bed with sharp break then they become good areas to fish.
My choice of lures would be to add a terrestrial lures like a rat wake bait, a bluegill swimbait and stay with craw jig and T- rig worms.
Tom
jtipton91 reply :
On 6/10/2016 at 11:17 PM, WRB said:Just trying to visualize your sand pit lake. Most pit lakes I am familiar with have steep banks on 3 sides with a sloping bank where the equipment exits the rectangular shape pit.
LMB in these pits tend to roam the perimeter to hunt prey. The middle areas usually don't have isolated structure to give prey a place to hide. If there is something out from the bank like boulder pile, road bed with sharp break then they become good areas to fish.
My choice of lures would be to add a terrestrial lures like a rat wake bait, a bluegill swimbait and stay with craw jig and T- rig worms.
Tom
You are correct. It is rectangular shaped, with a more shallow bank on the north end opposite the boat ramp. I've been mostly finding fish along the perimeter. I think the middle area is a barren wasteland for the most part. I have most success with trig baits and swimbaits. Recommendations on wake baits or bluegill swimbaits to try?
Catt reply :
On 6/9/2016 at 3:23 AM, jtipton91 said:Just looking to gain some knowledge here. I typically only have room for 4 rods with me on my bass raider on a given outing. Those rods are usually rigged as followed. Looking for advice on a good starting lineup or if what I've got goin isn't too bad.
1. 6-6 MHF ethos casting-hollow belly swimbait
2. 6-6 MHF gander mtn elite casting- trig big worm or craw.
3. 6-8 MXF St.Croix Rage casting- weightless senko
4. 6-6 MHF Shimano Clarus casting- top water of some sort.
Fishing a 50 acre sandpit in KS. Let me know if you guys would change anything or any tips you have.
On 6/10/2016 at 9:47 PM, jtipton91 said:Wind was around 20mph so I swapped the frog for a chatterbait. No hits on that. Caught 1 fish on the cut r worm and the rest on a trig rage craw. Not a bad night.
I would definitely add a jig!
I would also substitute other straight tail worms like Zoom's Trick Worm or Bassassian's Tapout Worm for the Senko.
primetime reply :
I love the Gander Mountain Rods and even the reels, they really have nice stuff now. The Company in my Town who makes the *** stuff and *** rods and more is making many of the rods and reels now, which is why you see the cork handles on the vortex bait caster. I am not saying they are the same reels, but they use the same company overseas to make them from what I am told.
Anyhow, I am assuming the Pit is deep with brush and weeds on the shoreline and a back bay of some sort like most pits (At least the ones here in Florida only are's are usually Phosphate and turn green.....But I do fish some 20' avererage depth, 8 feet visibility strip pits where they cut down cypress trees, and the fish in the deeper clear water pits usually are tightly grouped together, have a thermocline, and if it rains scatter into the flooded shorelines. However, they seem to love to feed on or near the surface....
I usually bring 2 spinning and 2 casting rods as well and I use the following almost always....Weed are usually not that thick on edges.
1- #1 bait I throw along edges, to any structure....#9 Original Rapala on spinning gear, 8-10lb test. Key is usually to barely work it, maybe a twitch twich pause....I have had days where they wanted it slow rolled under the surface but you can figure it out...A floating Rapala in Gold and black, silver blue back is hard to beat and is the most under used lure since it is the best selling lure in the world.
2- Swim Jig with paddle tail trailer- I fish it like a spinnerbait and also pitch it into cover or around isolated cover.
3- Unweighted Fluke- I love the Strike King Caffiene Shad in their watermelon blue or gp blue color.
4- Lipless crankbait in a one knocker or low pitch sound, usually a Spro Aruku Shad once I figure out what Depth they are suspending at since they will go below the thermocline to get a bait, but if you can work them at 12' down, I find a lipless bait find them the best, and then once I find them I will toss a 5" GP grub on a Darter jig head and count it down and then lift and drop or reel steady...
Hope that helps, My buddy throws Frogs and does well, but some days we fish topwater all day long, even in hot sun, Tiny Torpedo, Rapala, Mann's wakes, Smaller baits seem to work better in clear water, and clear Color topwaters seem to catch bigger fish.
I probably would have a creature bait rigged up on a 5th rod now that I think about it...usually a Rage Craw in summer on 5/16 bullet weight and I will chuck it everywhere and that can be fished horizontal or vertical...
Hope I helped you find a new idea to try. I would say the floating Minnow bait or Rip bait is the most under fished bait and I call it the Senko of hardbaits since it catches fish so fast half the time it never moves more than a foot if it is near fish. If it gets windy I will go with a heavier lure like the Bomber Long A, but smaller #13 size for some reason down here Pit bass in clear water shy away from bigger lures from my experiences.
jtipton91 reply :
On 6/11/2016 at 1:20 AM, primetime said:I love the Gander Mountain Rods and even the reels, they really have nice stuff now. The Company in my Town who makes the *** stuff and *** rods and more is making many of the rods and reels now, which is why you see the cork handles on the vortex bait caster. I am not saying they are the same reels, but they use the same company overseas to make them from what I am told.
Anyhow, I am assuming the Pit is deep with brush and weeds on the shoreline and a back bay of some sort like most pits (At least the ones here in Florida only are's are usually Phosphate and turn green.....But I do fish some 20' avererage depth, 8 feet visibility strip pits where they cut down cypress trees, and the fish in the deeper clear water pits usually are tightly grouped together, have a thermocline, and if it rains scatter into the flooded shorelines. However, they seem to love to feed on or near the surface....
I usually bring 2 spinning and 2 casting rods as well and I use the following almost always....Weed are usually not that thick on edges.
1- #1 bait I throw along edges, to any structure....#9 Original Rapala on spinning gear, 8-10lb test. Key is usually to barely work it, maybe a twitch twich pause....I have had days where they wanted it slow rolled under the surface but you can figure it out...A floating Rapala in Gold and black, silver blue back is hard to beat and is the most under used lure since it is the best selling lure in the world.
2- Swim Jig with paddle tail trailer- I fish it like a spinnerbait and also pitch it into cover or around isolated cover.
3- Unweighted Fluke- I love the Strike King Caffiene Shad in their watermelon blue or gp blue color.
4- Lipless crankbait in a one knocker or low pitch sound, usually a Spro Aruku Shad once I figure out what Depth they are suspending at since they will go below the thermocline to get a bait, but if you can work them at 12' down, I find a lipless bait find them the best, and then once I find them I will toss a 5" GP grub on a Darter jig head and count it down and then lift and drop or reel steady...
Hope that helps, My buddy throws Frogs and does well, but some days we fish topwater all day long, even in hot sun, Tiny Torpedo, Rapala, Mann's wakes, Smaller baits seem to work better in clear water, and clear Color topwaters seem to catch bigger fish.
I probably would have a creature bait rigged up on a 5th rod now that I think about it...usually a Rage Craw in summer on 5/16 bullet weight and I will chuck it everywhere and that can be fished horizontal or vertical...
Hope I helped you find a new idea to try. I would say the floating Minnow bait or Rip bait is the most under fished bait and I call it the Senko of hardbaits since it catches fish so fast half the time it never moves more than a foot if it is near fish. If it gets windy I will go with a heavier lure like the Bomber Long A, but smaller #13 size for some reason down here Pit bass in clear water shy away from bigger lures from my experiences.
Thank you for the advice. It's appreciated. Also, the gander mtn gsx elite I use is one of the best feeling rods I've used so far. It's hands down my favorite. Looks amazing too.
roadwarrior reply :
Zara Puppy
Norman Fat Boy
Siebert Outdoors Cosmic spinnerbait
Rage Tail Menace
On deck:
Z-Man Chatterbit/ Rage Structuer Bug Trailer
Rage Tail Cut-R
Fat Ika
Senko
crypt reply :
pop-r--swimbait--texas rigged worm 6-7 inch-----baby 1- covers it all
McKinneyLonghorn reply :
Lots of great answers already on this thread. I will add no matter what else you do, tie on a Texas-rigged 7-inch Blue Fleck Berkley Power Worm and get to catching fish. This color worm has caught fish for me in everything from gin clear to chocolate milk water. Bass seem to love it.
BassThumb reply :
Spinnerbait/buzzbait
Squarebill/lipless crankbait
Jig and craw/Texas Rig
Senko/Soft jerkbait
AndrewJ reply :
Drop Shot w/ either curl tail robo worm or Biospawn plasma tail
1/4 oz ball head jig with a grub (color depends on what the fish are eating)
Ned Rig
Crankbait (size once again depends on the fish)
Ghostshad reply :
Ive been trying the SwimJig & Spinnerbait , i just don't have no luck with either , i'm completely lost on what to do .
jtipton91 reply :
I don't really have any luck on them either, especially the spinnerbait. I get far more bites on weightless plastics and trig plastics. I really think it depends on the certain body of water. Some places I fish the fish will hit a swimjig, but the place I referenced in this thread they won't even look at it it seems. Plus, everyone fishes a spinnerbait, I think the fish grow immune to them
Rick Howard reply :
I only have 3 setups in the boat. 2 casting and one spiining.
One casting with a spinner and one with a jig. Sometimes I will switch either of these for a soft plastic Texas rigged. The jig Rod is heavier and has heavier line and I use it for the heaviest cover with heavier baits.
the spinning rod will normally have a floating type jerk bait. Also it will be used for weightless senko. If I find myself in deeper water its setup for drop shot.
I fish a bait the meets the requirement of the condition(s) that I'm fishing. Normally in that few selections I can find what I need to get the job done.
Primairly I fish the spinner bait, the jig, and the floating jerkbait. The jerk bait I work along the top most often but sometimes they like it better just under the surface. The spinner I can fish a half dozen ways and cover a lot of water. The jig lets me rip them from their hide holes. I do fish Texas rigged plastics at times and hollow body frogs sometimes too. But 90% of my fishing is with the three mainstays I described.
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